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pattyz
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# Posted: 7 Dec 2007 21:14
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Thanks for the incite. It's a shame people waste so much time trying to scam people into a home business. I wish there were more good ones around.
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cassie
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 11:31
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Lots of good advice on this thread.
Caution and research before spending any money.
I don't know how some of these scammers live with themselves. Taking advantage of poor, sick , disabled and needy people. Tin men without a heart I guess.
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Mr4000k
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 06:00
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Hello everyone!
This is such a great thread. I really do believe that most opportunities work if you work them. There are of course several scams out there that people should stay away from. In my opinion,when you see an opportunity that promises that you don't have to talk to anybody to get sign-ups and "Guaranteed Sign-ups" are scams. Stay away from those programs. Work from Home opportunities means just that "Work" from Home. You really must do something to make money from home when you join a program. Also, the average person cannot market on the Internet and make money that easy.
That is why it is very important to really check out the opportunity prior to joining and make sure that if there is an upline involved he/she will help you make your initial investment back within your first 30 days or less and put you in a position where you are in positive cash flow prior to letting you go on your own. I have joined a program in the past that promised and guaranteed I would make money with it. Unfortunately, after I signed up the people I signed up with pretty much disappeared. They guranteed sign ups and that did not happen.
They just told me to post free ads on the internet and market the website and I would get some responses. Well, that did not happen and prior to signing up with them they were always very easy to get ahold of by phone or email. Now it seems like they joined a witness protection program! I thank God that I found a program that really does work and have a mentor that got me into positive cash flow within two weeks. I am now in a position were I can do the same for others. I have helped several people make money and that folks is a very good feeling. I'm a man, and when someone sends flowers with appreciation, it really does make me feel great! Good luck with all your ventures!
Best Regards,
Mike
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juno44444
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:47
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I suggest people really research before investing. I've done that and I've wasted almost nothing though I have invested in Ebooks and Tools which helped me a lot.
I avoid anything which says that "you can earn lots of money even if you are a moron and don't work at all, as long as you first pay such and such amount of money for ..."
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1art1427
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 11:02
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Hi just joined because im looking like everone else to make a little money witthout having to pay out a bunch to get there is there anything that is lucrative out there where you can make some money thanks art
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Success100
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 15:58
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I always think it is the best idea to do your research. There are forums out there like this one where you have ACTUAL PEOPLE who have participated in these "opportunities" who will tell you exactly how their experience was with XYZ Enterprises. Now of course, there will always be people who don't succeed, and will bash the opportunity and give it a bad name, but still, you can read through forums and get a general concensus of what the business is about and whether its actually a scam or not. Most places that are legitimate usually have contact numbers, email addresses, physical addresses, etc. to provide(think recourse). To keep this from being redundant, go with your gut feeling. There are people who say don't pay anyone money to make money, but think about it, how did Donald Trump get rich? He had to make an investment to make a return, and look at him now. Ive been scammed a few times, and learning from my mistakes, this is some of the best core, concrete advice that I could possibly give someone. Best of luck to you all.
Success100
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# Posted: 22 Dec 2007 08:28
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One thing that doesn't get mentioned very often is performing your own free research.
Find a big library and check out some books on SEO, online marketing, etc...Find some online marketing forums and blogs. Read and play around with some google tools.
It's part of a well-rounded education whether or not you actually purchase a money making program.
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shermanchoo
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# Posted: 26 Dec 2007 00:17
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Avoid Data Entry Programs.
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xeonkar007
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# Posted: 27 Dec 2007 02:00
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3 damn truths;;;
1. true wealth comes hard work and commitment and providing value to people.
2. if some one says money making is damn easy, yes its by fooling the listeners one may make some short term money.
3. never ever pay to do some data-entry or whatever...
do u pay to do a job in some company.. then why pay here... its scam that it
and do check the resource in this forum or in www.scam.com
take care
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iplay2
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2008 17:52
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new to the scene myself and am also a small local business owner in need of extra cash, especially after buying the kids their Xmas. All of you guys information is very valuable to me. I'm still looking for my niche in the work at home field.
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GratefullyRich
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2008 10:27
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Hi There
I am New to this Community and it feels good to be here!!!
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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2008 02:37
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Been in the arena now for about 2 1/2 months and the one thing that I realized is that there are a lot of home opps out there, but only a select few that actually provide the right vehicle. In other words, you must have a Great Mentor to teach you how to do what they are doing and to be as successful as them. You can't learn how to make a million dollars from a chicken. Another thing that is extremely important is the team support. If everyone around you wants to help you become successful then your odds a greater that you will be. The training and materials you need to make your business grow must be top notch, available, and ever growing. You need to know how to do what your doing, how to sell the product or service, who to market, and how to attract the right buyer. All these things are KEY elements in making a decision on what company to choose. When you have all these things in place then your in the right place at the right time! Hope this helps, take care and GOD Bless.
jason
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2008 18:22
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Hello everyone,
This is a great thread.
We really should define the word scam. It is thrown around so much and I think everyone has a different definition. If you join a company and do not make any income from that opportunity, does that make it a scam? I know business owners who bought franchises that went out of business. Would that be considered a scam?
I really think some companies deserve the title of "scam". If they promise you overnight riches than they are probably a "scam". But for the most part, companies get a bad reputaion because someone joined and did nothing, made no money, and then accuse that opportunity of being a "scam".
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FrankSmith
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2008 18:26
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Here is a good rule to keep in mind:
Most people want to get things 1)Cheap 2)Quick and 3)Easy
The truth is that you can pick any two of those you want but you will always sacrifice the third.
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cebarber2
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2008 14:43
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I agree with Bill. It's widely understood that most people are not cut out to own their own business.
Someone comes home from work one day. He's been an "employee" for 30+ years. He had a lousy day, big fight with the boss. All of a sudden, he "thinks" he wants to open a business, based on his lousy day and lousy boss.
He finds an online opportunity, gets in, and, after a month of very little effort, passion, and determination on his part, decides that the company is bad: that it's a "scam".
Truthfully, the company is great, the product is fantastic, and the support and training is wonderful.
The mirror holds the real answer here......
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2008 21:49
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An incredible amount of wonderful advice has been given here by majority of the earlier posts, but i just want to drop this little piece. Strive to avoid the urge of jumping from program to program. Its important when working at home not to spread yourself too thin.
Remember Rome was not built in one day..........
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RayvinAndRob
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# Posted: 28 Jan 2008 05:39
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Hello,
Great topic! Here's our contribution:
Does the company you are researching or belong to meet these five criteria? If not, then RUN the other way! If it's missing even just ONE of these five, then RUN, RUN, RUN!
1. Company management experience with integrity.
2. Timing of the company in its industry.
3. A remarkable, affordable and consumable line of products.
4. A pay plan that pays part-timers fairly.
5. A duplicable system.
Think about it.
Rob & Rayvin
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# Posted: 31 Jan 2008 18:20
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Not sure if this has been discussed earlier on. But a couple of weeks ago i received an email asking me to register as a work at home agent for Dell (im sure dell dont know about this so i forwarded a copy of the email to them anyway). All they wanted me to do was to receive payments for them as an agent from customers based in Uk and then keep 10% and send the balance to them. If anyone ever receives such email PLEASE STAY AWAY because they will definitely send money into ur account but be guaranteed that within 1 month you will get a call from the FBI or your local police and your account will be frozen. Just felt i should live my experience here for us all to learn.
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# Posted: 1 Feb 2008 21:37
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Scam are really just everywhere. So don't be too impulsive on joining, exert some effort to research. Read reviews, ask affiliates, and do whatever possible to protect you from being scammed.
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Larry Sanders
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2008 00:53
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I found this site looking to get the word out about 'Reality-Networkers'
I have come to the conclusion that they are a scam from the research I have done and talking to a few people personally.
They have a great system to bait people: again I simply want to get the word out(more).
'Larry'
PS pass the word, lets look out for the less fortunate, keep the net safe for us better marketers...
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2008 16:56
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Seems like there are too many folks out there that forget theold adage.... If it sounds too good to be true.... It's probably a work-from-home scam!
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2008 10:18
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I am really scared now as I have given some money for some of the work from home site. And I don't know will it be a successfull plan or just a scam. Lets see.
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I want to thank everyone for the advise and opinions that I have been reading about Angel Stevens Rebate Processor. I received a e-mail this morning from her advertising this thing and I came across this forum while trying to google it. You saved me $197 because I almost went for it. But then the other sense kicked in and I did the research. If anyone knows of a legit home based business let me know. These scams are getting to be a pain in the ........
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2008 15:30
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One thing I see a lot from scams is the "BE YOUR OWN BOSS!!" statement. That's almost always an indicator of a scam.
Sometimes you can find out if a company is a scam just by typing the company name and the word "scam" in the Google search box. It oftens shows you posts from people who have been ripped off by the company you're researching, people who are calling it a scam.
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# Posted: 20 Feb 2008 23:42
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The Arise company, requires payment for training, then requires a LLC. Should I assume that this company is a scam because I need to pay for its training? Really need to know because I have ten days left to decide whether to pay my state $100 for the LLC
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# Posted: 2 Mar 2008 16:43
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There are tons of schems and scams out there that promise you the world but your job stays the same. There are no doubt mlm programs that work, work at home jobs that work. The due hicky that hangs us up is..us. By that I mean we don't stay committed to something long enough to see it through. The scammers we ought to watch out for are .....OURSELVES!!!
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# Posted: 6 Mar 2008 22:48
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I don't know if we allow to post a link here, but the below is all regarding scam programs
http://www.scam.com
Mod: Please delete if the link is not allowed.
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2008 20:30
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I think if you get a ton of emails from the same source, good reason to suspect scam as I notice that rebate processor emails are all from the same source!!! If it's so good why would you have to cram so many emails into a persons inbox/bulk folder?
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# Posted: 20 Mar 2008 22:22
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It's easier to spot a scam than it is a legitimate programme. Often the scams are so well designed and put together that they look better than the real opportunities but in doing so they should be fairly obvious because of their outlandish claims.
This could be because the scammers have been doing this for a while and so know exactly what they have to do in order to dupe people out of their money. Usually they have no qualms about rejecting requests for refunds because they know their system doesn't work and they have no morals or scruples.
Unfortunately they are also very clever people but I think they have been misdirected in life somehow and have decided to go it alone and 'screw' society. You should never believe that you can earn $1,000 a day entering data for just two hours work, for example. If this were the case the industry would be overwhelmed by people doing it.
And, of course, the best way to spot a scam is to check out www.work-at-home-forum.com
before you do anything else as the advice is much better than you'd get anywhere else.
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# Posted: 25 Mar 2008 18:28
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there's also a good website i found called the www.ripoffreport.com.
you just type in the company's name and it gives you all of the complaints against the company if any.
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