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duckbird
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 08:26
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What have you accomplished if you get member after member but your downline is not shopping? You would think since its the holiday season people would be shopping a lot.
Now to be honest, I rarely shop online, so why am I complaining?
Well I'm not really complaining, I'm just stating a fact. One reason why I joined MPM was because they said you did not have to shop.
So I thought to myself great. When I get members to join, they will shop and members under them will shop and so on.
Well it looks like those under me is thinking like me. By the way, I did make a $25.00 purchase through MPM. Right now I have 12 members on my downline and only two have made a purchase.
Is anyone else experiencing what I'm experiencing?
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 09:20
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No, in November alone, my downline made over $1,000 in purchases. I do appreciate your honesty though.
You need around 12-15 or more in just your frontline alone. Then you need 3 or more of them to recruit 10 or more to get enough shoppers and folks that will keep adding to your downline.
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duckbird
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 10:53
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I guess I'm just a lousy promoter, I can't even get people to sign up for something that's absolutely free. So far, I've scared off most of my friends after sending them emails telling them about MPM. After nearly two months, I only have three members direct downline. I'm so glad it was free to join, so I haven't lost anything. So far my total sales are around $38.00.
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hellothere
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 15:52
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Ah, the woes of marketing! I just started a career in the field and learning the basics! So glad we can be open and honest here.
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kalien
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 18:57
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Quoting: duckbird Now to be honest, I rarely shop online, so why am I complaining? Well I'm not really complaining, I'm just stating a fact. One reason why I joined MPM was because they said you did not have to shop
Nowhere is it stated that you don't have to shop - that's the whole concept behind the system! Think back to the compensation matrix that is described in the video presentation. It uses an example of each member spending $150/month in their Malls with an average rebate of 7%. The potential income described uses those figures. If even half of your total downline thinks like you do, then you're wiping 50% off of your possible income. And those figures are averages - some MPM members will only spend $20 - $30 each month, while others will spend several hundreds. If you're not spending a dime, then you're doing a dis-service to yourself and your upline. I have always shopped online, but now I have changed my buying habits to take full advantage of the variety of vendors at MPM. For instance, I opened a business mall for my "day-job" company. My company always ordered all of our office supplies from Staples. We simply switched to OfficeDepot, an MPM vendor, and get the same supplies and custom printing items we used to get exclusively from Staples. And instead of shlepping big packages of toilet paper & paper towels from the local store, I've been ordering all of our household goods at drugstore.com. Just think about items you purchase on a monthly or weekly basis, and you can find most of them at the MPM stores. There is even talk of adding most of the major grocery stores and gas station chains to MPM. You will soon be able to purchase gas cards to use at your local filling station.
As for your members not shopping - bear in mind that it takes up to two weeks for sales to post in your commission report. A sale only posts once the items are shipped, the vendor is paid, and the vendor pays MPM the rebate. Some vendors are a bit slow when it comes to paying MPM. I have family & friends in my downline that told me they had been making purchases through their Malls, but it took a few weeks for the first sales to appear in my commission report.
But you should also be leading by example. I have maintained open lines of communication with all members in my frontline. I have learned enough about each one of them to make shopping suggestions that would be useful and beneficial to them. If you want to consider this as a business opportunity, you must be pro-active. Explore your Mall each day to discover how you can use it, and to pass along shopping suggestions to your downline. The Shopping Alert emails are fine & dandy, but you can't rely on them to spur your members to shop. Especially if they haven't worked for you! 
The key to success at MPM is 1) shop at your Mall; 2) give away free Malls; and 3) encourage. lead and teach your downline to follow steps #1 & #2.
Kalien
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 06:00 · Edited by: cybermommy
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There is the old saying~"you can lead a horse to water,but you can't make it drink".
This is very true.
Lets be realistic,you will bring members into MPM and some of those,a certain percentage,will not shop or wait for their members to shop.
All you can do is encourage and remind your team of the benefits of the business and that by being pro-active it will yield results.
I build wide,wide wide.
Some may not agree with that,but you are ensuring yourself a large ,strong team.
Now perhaps,for arguements sake,half of those members I brought in do nothing-not ideal ,but the other half of my large frontline are shopping and building and duplicating to their team .
That is why I build wide,the law of averages says I will get those who do nothing or very little with MPM,but by the same token I will also have people who are very pro-active in all aspects of their business and who "work it".
And it is true,I have some on my frontline who have joined and despite my efforts seem reluctant or unmotivated to do anything and then I have quite a few that are going great guns.
Some will join because it is a free business and have that new business glow that lasts for a few weeks.
When the reality of the work and effort kicks in then they get disheartened~all you can do is be there for any questions,make sure your downline are loaded with the facts and it is up to them to build and make use of their business.
duckbird,I admire your honesty.You are probably voicing what many have thought or think and won't say.
I would say that you have to take a two pronged approach.
Continue to promote,use all avenues open to you.
Use our team forum in back office for advice and ideas.
Number two is shop in your mall.Kalien gave great advice above,so I won't re-post it.
Did you see yesterdays update?The first phase of the debit cards is ready to roll out and when fully implemented it will will,I am sure,get a lot of members who previously didn't shop,using them.
Combined with local merchants programm,it will be fantastic.
Where are you advertising,online or offline or a combo?
This is a great folder here and lots of people will offer you good advice and pointers 
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 07:29
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Quoting: kalien Nowhere is it stated that you don't have to shop
Hi Kalien,
Glad to see you posting again after a short leave. Is it possible that you created a typo when you posted that? Did you mean to say "do" rather than "don't"?
The reason I ask is because it does state that there are no spending qualifiers.
Sorry to bring this up in public but I wouldn't want anyone to misunderstand the contract. I'd PM you but you can't edit your post.
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smcas
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 10:26
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Hello
I have my powermall too and have been doing alot of advertising and even bought business cards. I haven't had a sign up yet. I was wondering if something was wrong. To me its a great program and I shop on it alot. Thankyou all for the postings and God Bless you,
smcas
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kalien
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 11:09
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Quoting: Newbie Shield The reason I ask is because it does state that there are no spending qualifiers.
I stand corrected! It is not necessary to make any purchases to qualify for income earned. But none of us will have any income if our downlines aren't doing any shopping. That was the main point I was trying to make.
All of the MPM members in my downline that are friends and family, my warm market per se, were "sold" on the idea only after I told them about purchases I had already made at my Mall. Leading by example has been key to maintaining enthusiasm and respect from my familiar downline. For my downline members that I obtained from outside sources, I have been fielding more questions about How To Shop, than How To Promote. So even if you do not shop at your Mall, we should all at least spend some time "browsing", so we can pass on shopping tips to our downlines. It took me a few weeks to learn how to navigate, find specials and fully explore the scope of products available. But now I am using that knowledge to try and alleviate the frustration some newer members are having in trying to find their way around. And I'm still learning!
Kalien
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kalien
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 11:11
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Quoting: Newbie Shield The reason I ask is because it does state that there are no spending qualifiers.
I stand corrected! It is not necessary to make any purchases to qualify for income earned. But none of us will have any income if our downlines aren't doing any shopping. That was the main point I was trying to make.
All of the MPM members in my downline that are friends and family, my warm market per se, were "sold" on the idea only after I told them about purchases I had already made at my Mall. Leading by example has been key to maintaining enthusiasm and respect from my familiar downline. For my downline members that I obtained from outside sources, I have been fielding more questions about How To Shop, than How To Promote. So even if you do not shop at your Mall, we should all at least spend some time "browsing", so we can pass on shopping tips to our downlines. It took me a few weeks to learn how to navigate, find specials and fully explore the scope of products available. But now I am using that knowledge to try and alleviate the frustration some newer members are having in trying to find their way around. And I'm still learning!
Kalien
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alexant
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 12:52
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Quoting: smcas I have my powermall too and have been doing alot of advertising and even bought business cards. I haven't had a sign up yet. I was wondering if something was wrong.
No, I don't think so. For some reason this program has been a tough sell. Friends, family, and people I know and can discuss the program with, I can get to sign up. All the other marketing has got me nowhere... email campaigns, Google Ads, online and newspaper ads, blog posts, and more.
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smcas
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 14:19
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Thankyou Alexant for your reply!
I will just have to be patient and persistent "smiles" have a great day!
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hellothere
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 14:53
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Keep on keepin on, alexant!
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kalien
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 15:56
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Quoting: alexant All the other marketing has got me nowhere... email campaigns, Google Ads, online and newspaper ads, blog posts, and more.
Are you using the email campaign letters in MPM's back office? I had some success with that, but it did take the seventh or eighth letter in the campaign before I saw any results. Don't get discouraged after the first few letters.
I've also had a little success with some free online classified ads. Just be sure to include your own contact information in the ads. Otherwise you might lose people that are interested, but don't know where to go with questions after watching the presentation. Try to encourage your frontline to place their own classifieds in different venues - it will only enhance your exposure.
Have you printed any flyers or postcards yet? One of my frontline members works in a large school district and she left MPM flyers in the mailboxes of the entire faculty and adminstration. In addition to stamping her biz site URL, she also provided her name & email address on each flyer. She's been receiving alot of hits to her site
and numerous email inquiries. It's an inexpensive way to get the word out.
Good Luck!
Kalien
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alexant
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 16:20
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Quoting: kalien Are you using the email campaign letters in MPM's back office?
Yes I have, using rent-a-list.
Quoting: kalien Have you printed any flyers or postcards yet?
Yes I did... plus business cards. Just did a 500 name mailing last week tageted at stay at home moms.
Quoting: kalien She's been receiving alot of hits to her site
Hits I have. The site shows about 900 IP hits for the first two weeks.
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 21:04
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Quoting: kalien It is not necessary to make any purchases to qualify for income earned. But none of us will have any income if our downlines aren't doing any shopping. That was the main point I was trying to make.
Hi Kalien,
I figured that was what you really meant to say. I just didn't want anyone to get confused. I'm sure you understand :)
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carolynd1
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 08:50
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I also belong to My Powermall. I have been a member since April.
I think its a great opportunity.
As far as shopping in your mall I think you lead by example, if you shop your downline will shop too.
I have 91 in my downline and get 1 or 2 signups a week.
I have always shopped online so this business is perfect for me. But coming soon is a debit card that you will be able to use anywhere.
I love this business, I think it's great and there is no monthly spending qualifier either
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duckbird
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 09:33
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Quoting: carolynd1 As far as shopping in your mall I think you lead by example, if you shop your downline will shop too.
I highly disagree (Speaking for myself) I'm not going to shop because the person above me is shopping, I'm going to shop because I want to shop.
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 09:49
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Hi Carolyn,
Welcome to our folder
I have seen your posts in MPM forum and enjoy reading them.
We are of the same mindset,if you won't/aren't willing to shop and use your mall,why expect your team to do the same?
I am eagerly awaiting the debit cards as well,an extra income stream and one that looks to be very lucrative
I have another forum where I am a very regular poster,Newbie Shield knows the one!
Hi Newbie Shield
Well there is a debate about the debit cards going on over there starting to brew-I am seeing some very mixed reactions.
Some aren't happy with the initial $12 fee and slightly vexed about the re-load fee,though I was under the impression that a portion of the re-load fee goes back into the payplan.
As I posted over there we don't have the full lowdown yet on all the in's and out's of how it will operate,its irritating when we are chomping to get going,but we know Ginny won't release full details until she is 100% confirmed on them.
She learnt that lesson last time
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 10:19
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Quoting: duckbird I highly disagree (Speaking for myself) I'm not going to shop because the person above me is shopping, I'm going to shop because I want to shop.
I think Carolyn is meaning the basis on which the our businesses will function to their best.
Shopping is our fuel-its the income provider.
Nobody shopping=nobody making any money.
Of course nobody is shopping because they are "told to",rather they are using the system to build an income and hopefully members joining recognise this.
I like to call it savvy shopping;buy what you normally need to buy,your bulky items,your routine buys,gifts etc from your mall.
It takes time to find your way around and get used to finding those stores that will go on your favourites list,but once you do it becomes a cinch.
Most importantly each member who joins will understand the core basics that this business is built on and use them and work them to their full advantage
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ka7952
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 09:03
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I think the idea is this;
For you to earn from this business people in your team has to shop. Now it does not mean they have to shop more. It just means they shop for things they normally do anyway. It is just that this time instead of going to the local stores, or other online sites, they should shop from their own malls. That is it.
If everybody in the team thinks the same, there will be income for everybody. So now every time I think of buying something, I always look for availability in my MPM first.
This is your stores, your mall, your business. Why giving money from shopping to other shops if you can get the same things from your own stores.
Keep working on your business. I have had dry spells too. And then one member in my team started to work seriously and that keeps me more motivated when I see my downline all of a sudden explode in a few days.
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:52
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Very true, ka7952
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 09:59
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Quoting: ka7952 I think the idea is this; For you to earn from this business people in your team has to shop. Now it does not mean they have to shop more. It just means they shop for things they normally do anyway. It is just that this time instead of going to the local stores, or other online sites, they should shop from their own malls. That is it. If everybody in the team thinks the same, there will be income for everybody. So now every time I think of buying something, I always look for availability in my MPM first. This is your stores, your mall, your business. Why giving money from shopping to other shops if you can get the same things from your own stores. Keep working on your business. I have had dry spells too. And then one member in my team started to work seriously and that keeps me more motivated when I see my downline all of a sudden explode in a few days.
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ka7952
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 00:11
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It would be wonderful if people can be convinced to sign up easily and everybody has about 10,000 malls in his/her team and everybody spends at least $150 per month, wouldn't it?
That is the goal, though.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 00:14
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I have had 2 more malls in my team today.
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 04:26
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Quoting: ka7952 I have had 2 more malls in my team today.
Congrats ka7952 
The contest at the moment is bringing in 5 new members which then spend $50 in their malls.
Contest ends in the new year if I am right?
Did we all read yesterdays update?Servers will be down for a few hours whilst they switch to a more robust one.
Shouldn't bother all you guys in the US(unless you are an insomniac!),mainly effecting international members,I won't be able to log on until later .....
Monday 17th Dec.
Family call-this is being named as the MOST important call in MPM history!
Make sure you get in on that call!
From what I read in the update it has something to do with the co-ops or is linked somehow?
Brad Gerver,director of marketing is saying its huge news.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 08:40
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I guess they are mailing the debit cards soon. Has anyone heard? I guess this is the only way we can get paid. They cost something like $12.50 to set up and something like $2.50 per commission/rebate upload to the card.
Does anyone know anything at all about these cards?
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cybermommy
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 17:13
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Quoting: Newbie Shield I guess they are mailing the debit cards soon. Has anyone heard? I guess this is the only way we can get paid. They cost something like $12.50 to set up and something like $2.50 per commission/rebate upload to the card. Does anyone know anything at all about these cards?
From what I have read in our back office forum they are almost ready to go.
From what I am gleaming off the forum and other members,Monday's call will answer and explain a lot of what is happening with everything including debit cards.
I am SO ready for debit cards!!
Btw,the travel incentives/certificates aren't good for international members 
So Ginny is asking people for suggestions of other companies that can offer similar,if not better incentives on a global scale.
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changemylife
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 22:17
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Duckbird,
I absolutely love MPM! The concept and comp plan are BRILLANT! I have to give credit where credit is due! You asked the question; what is a downline if they are not purchasing? If have to ask, "Are there any women in your downline?"
If not, MISTAKE 1#...
Here is a stat for you: 60% of all online purchases are made by women (Per Interactive Resource). Get more women in your downline and watch your rebate checks explode.
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 05:38
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What does everyone think about todays update from Ginny?
It seems to confirm a way we can double dip.
By buying a gift certificate through gift certificate.com on our malls and then using it to shop at drugstore.com through our mall.
And this is only one merchant we can do it with!
Restaurants,stores,grocery stores(Walmart etc)
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