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Mr Ed
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# Posted: 18 Nov 2008 16:20
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Greetings All,
I thought it would be interesting to hear form those of you who have worked the same business/opportunity/program for more than year and are now making full time income from it. By full time income, let's say at least $40,000 per year.
In this field there are a lot claims and promises made regarding the potential of success, but I want to hear from those who have actually made it. You may define success differently, and that's ok, but that isn't the point here. I'm just looking to hear from those who have been working a business for over a year that provides a full time income.
Let us know what you are doing and how you made it successful.
Thanks!
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wahl2008
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2008 18:41
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Hi Mr. Ed,
I've been successfully working at home using the same sites for over one year now.
I won't get into numbers specifically, but I make a full time income and work part time hours.
I do live in Macedonia and the cost of living is a bit lower than in the U.S., but I pay all of the bills and have some left to play with.
I'm really satisfied with the work that I do and it will allow me to be a work at home dad in a couple of months when my son is born.
I work as a freelance administrative support provider (virtual assistant). This is not a get rich quick kind of work. It's the same as working in an office, but I get to work at home.
I look forward to hearing what others have to say.
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Mr Ed
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2008 12:44
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Philip,
It's good to hear that someone is successful at what they do. I was hoping to hear from others. Maybe that says something in of itself.
Thanks!
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reneathebrave
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2009 21:08
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I was REALLY interested in finding this out myself. The whole reason I signed up for the forum was to ask the same question. Then I searched for related topics and found someone had already asked...but no one had answered. It really disheartens me to find out my hopes of being financially independant are pretty much impossible. I'm unable to work in a "normal" environment, so the promise of being able to make real money from something I can do at home in a few hours was nice, but being 20 and gullable is a curse, I guess.  Too bad I already signed up for stuff before finding this out.
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happywife
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2009 04:01
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reneathebrave: I was REALLY interested in finding this out myself. The whole reason I signed up for the forum was to ask the same question. Then I searched for related topics and found someone had already asked...but no one had answered. It really disheartens me to find out my hopes of being financially independant are pretty much impossible. I'm unable to work in a "normal" environment, so the promise of being able to make real money from something I can do at home in a few hours was nice, but being 20 and gullable is a curse, I guess. Too bad I already signed up for stuff before finding this out.
I suspect that most people who are making over 40 grand per year from their online marketing are not running around looking for work at home forums to post about it. 
That doesn't mean people aren't making money. I'll be the first to admit that I do NOT make 40 grand per year - YET.  I would imagine there are a couple of members who do (mere speculation), but it's an odd sort of question, isn't it?
The internet is a funny thing. You probably wouldn't go up to strangers offline and ask them how much money they are making per year. It's considered a bit 'impolite.' But people do it all the time online.
I do understand why we do it in these circles. We want to know that we aren't getting scammed. Trouble is, you never know who is telling the truth about their income claims, do you? 
Let me offer you some hope. Your hopes of being financially independent are NOT impossible. It may be nearly impossible to do it in one year and with no experience or money to invest, but it definitely isn't impossible.
What you need to do is realize that building a business online takes time and effort, just like it does offline. The less time you have to devote to it, the more time it will take you, but you can still get there.
I've been working on building my website businesses in my spare time for 2 years. My income gradually increases each month. The last few months I've earned over $1000 per month (if you can believe me ) and I know it will continue to grow as I continue to put in the time and effort by adding more and more pages to my sites providing information people are looking for.
I have the advantage of not needing to earn the money to live on at the moment. But, one day, it may very well be our full time income. I'm building it now so it will be there when it is needed.
Every person has different abilities and schedules. You can do what YOU can do. Will that be satisfactory? Only you know.
What you need is a good step by step plan of action that you can implement one step at a time and then the determination and persistence to just do it! (Sorry Nike).
Blessings,
Angie
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reneathebrave
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2009 21:40
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Thank you Angie. I know it takes time, which I have a lot of to put into something, but not enough time to wait and see if one system or the next will really make me any money, or just turn out to be a scam. I'm determined to prove to myself and others that there's something out there that works, I just don't know where to start so that I won't get badly burned in the process. And I definately don't have enough money to put into several until I find the one that works for me. I'm just hoping some sign will point me at the right one, I'll try it out, and find myself in riches, which I know will most likely never happen. But I'll keep praying for something really lucky to find me!
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happywife
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2009 23:02
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reneathebrave: Thank you Angie. I know it takes time, which I have a lot of to put into something, but not enough time to wait and see if one system or the next will really make me any money, or just turn out to be a scam. I'm determined to prove to myself and others that there's something out there that works, I just don't know where to start so that I won't get badly burned in the process. And I definately don't have enough money to put into several until I find the one that works for me. I'm just hoping some sign will point me at the right one, I'll try it out, and find myself in riches, which I know will most likely never happen. But I'll keep praying for something really lucky to find me!
Well, if you DO have the time, then you can definitely make SBI work for you. There aren't any really "plug-in" and make money systems no matter how many claims you read about people making thousands in their first month or so.
If they were, why would they be sharing it with you? People just aren't that generous!
When I refer to SBI as a system, I don't mean a system that works on auto-pilot or something like that. I mean a step by step training system that provides you with the tools and the guidance to DO THE RIGHT WORK.
A system doesn't make you money. You have to work to make money. All a system or program can do is show you or teach you the best and most effective way of working. That's what SBI does for those who want to build their own website business.
If you look at my sites in my signature, SBI didn't actually DO any of that. I DID THAT, as they taught me how to go about it in the right way.
Chocolate Candy Mall is MY company, with my visitors, etc., not SBI's. They just organized in one place and package a superior training layout that taught me how to research, choose a good niche, build pages that that the search engines would rank well, and then provided me with the tools to do it even though I had no prior web tech experience or knowledge.
I used one of their templates and then eventually personalized the header a bit. I used their simple blockbuilder (so I wouldn't have to learn coding). I used their automatic blogger, ezine builder, form software, hosting, automatic page submissions, and a number of other things they provide.
I made use of their training and tools, but I used it to build my own personal business. Does that make sense.
Yes, pray. I did a lot of praying that I would find a legitimate company among all the rubbish online when I started out. Of course, then I "found" SBI. But don't rely on luck. You won't find yourself in riches without putting the personal hard work and effort.
Fortunately, the few things I did try before SBI had refund policies which I took advantage of when I realized it was rubbish after purchasing. So I didn't lose money, just time in the beginning.
SBI has a refund policy too, but I was reasonably confident before I even started that I wouldn't be taking advantage of it. The free Affiliate course they offered (in my sig.) made me realize fairly quickly that it was high quality and would work if I worked it.
Turns out I was right. Read the materials for yourself and use your own judgment. And, of course, pray!
Blessings,
Angie
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MyOwnBoss
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2009 23:05 · Edited by: MyOwnBoss
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reneathebrave: Thank you Angie. I know it takes time, which I have a lot of to put into something, but not enough time to wait and see if one system or the next will really make me any money, or just turn out to be a scam. I'm determined to prove to myself and others that there's something out there that works, I just don't know where to start so that I won't get badly burned in the process. And I definately don't have enough money to put into several until I find the one that works for me. I'm just hoping some sign will point me at the right one, I'll try it out, and find myself in riches, which I know will most likely never happen. But I'll keep praying for something really lucky to find me!
Like Angie said, the "plug away and consistently work" path is a slow but sure path to making a good living. The problem with it is not many people have the dedication to continue doing it. They put in a couple of months of work and haven't made more than a couple hundred bucks, they fold and complain about whatever method they were using being a scam.
The second problem is what you've said yourself:
reneathebrave: the promise of being able to make real money from something I can do at home in a few hours was nice, but being 20 and gullable is a curse, I guess. Too bad I already signed up for stuff before finding this out.
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reneathebrave: but not enough time to wait and see if one system or the next will really make me any money, or just turn out to be a scam. I'm determined to prove to myself and others that there's something out there that works, I just don't know where to start so that I won't get badly burned in the process. And I definately don't have enough money to put into several until I find the one that works for me.
What you've told us is that you're looking for something that will make good money with only a few hours of work and not much investment. Also that you aren't willing to stick to something long enough to find out if you're on the right track.
I know it doesn't seem like that's what you're saying, but it is. I went through the same thing several years ago. There are so many people saying "Just buy this $49 ebook and you're on track to making umpteen thousand dollars a month while you sit on the beach sipping Mai Thais." that you feel like surely some of them are telling the truth.
The problem here is that the truth is malleable. You and I can do the exact same thing - write a blog with the same number of posts per month, spend X per month on adwords ads, sell the exact same affiliate offers - we'll still usually come out with 2 very different results profit-wise. That's why nobody outside of a one-on-one coaching situation can give you a detailed map to success. Your path depends on where your talents lie and what other resources you bring to the table.
I'm not saying what you're looking for is impossible, but I am saying there are very, very few people on this planet who could start from scratch with no list, no contacts, and no ad budget and make a living wage (in the US) in the first couple of months. Those very few who could do it are extremely good at both copywriting and online marketing, meaning they know what to say and how to get the message to a hungry online audience.
People may argue with this, but I believe the quickest way to get to the point of making a living online is by learning how to write copy, how to deal with PPC advertising, and choosing several products in a couple of different niches to advertise. This will cost you a couple hundred bucks (minimally) to do effectively. The good thing about this plan is that it's scalable. With 'bum marketing' or just SEO tactics, there's a point where you can't increase your returns very well (like if you're already submitting 10 articles per week to a given article directory, suddenly deciding to submit 100 per week probably won't have that much effect on your results (and certainly won't multiply your results by 10)).
With PPC, multiplying your ad budget by 10 directly translates to 10 times the money made or lost as your original result. In other words, once you know what you're doing it's a simple matter to step up to the next level income-wise.
You'll get varying responses from the various people here (and almost everybody's signature will tell you the easy way to make a fortune ), but listen to the people who seem to know what they're talking about and they'll tell you outside of a fluke success, being successful requires consistent effort + time. The only way to reduce either the effort or time is by throwing money at it by outsourcing, buying traffic (PPC), whatever. Knowledge is going to be necessary (moreso if you want to accelerate the process).
I know this isn't as pretty a message as you'll read on people's sales pages (even on mine - heh), but it's the truth. There's no shortcut, no magic program, nothing that substitutes for having knowledge and resources (time or money) that you can devote to turning that knowledge into money.
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# Posted: 4 Jan 2009 23:31
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MyOwnBoss: People may argue with this, but I believe the quickest way to get to the point of making a living online is by learning how to write copy, how to deal with PPC advertising, and choosing several products in a couple of different niches to advertise. This will cost you a couple hundred bucks (minimally) to do effectively. The good thing about this plan is that it's scalable.
I think you're right about that, if you can manage to do it right. I've been tempted a few times to give it a try, but I hate losing money, and I'm afraid I would.
MyOwnBoss: That's why nobody outside of a one-on-one coaching situation can give you a detailed map to success.
One of those on PPC would probably be just the thing. But I'd really want to be sure the 'coach' new exactly what they were doing so I didn't lose money (did I already say I hate losing money).
Thanks for the insights,
Angie
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2009 00:10
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happywife: I think you're right about that, if you can manage to do it right. I've been tempted a few times to give it a try, but I hate losing money, and I'm afraid I would. One of those on PPC would probably be just the thing. But I'd really want to be sure the 'coach' new exactly what they were doing so I didn't lose money (did I already say I hate losing money).
Heh! I don't think you'll ever find a 1-on-1 PPC coach who knows what they're doing. Think about it, if they know what they're doing, their time would be far better spent keeping up with the latest products or researching niches.
As for losing money, don't think of it as losing money. Think of it as spending money. I know that sounds stupid, but you're inevitably going to have campaigns that are duds. I look at that original costs for a campaign as money spent rather than an investment - that way if it is a dud, I'm not mad at myself for starting the campaign. If, on the other hand, it's not a dud then I'm willing to "buy the campaign" again.
I think you're at the perfect point (from your previous post) to start learning and sticking a toe into the PPC world. You're making some money, but you're almost at that point where you start running into diminishing returns and have to put in massive time and effort to get a significant income boost.
Do the PPC the same way you do anything else. Be consistent. Even if you just want to spend $15 a month on ads, keep it up and learn what works for you and what doesn't. Get the latest good adwords guide and learn what you can about tracking the effectiveness of your keywords (this is the absolute key to PPC success).
In the meantime, keep doing what you're doing and once you get a good PPC knowledge base under your belt, you've got the best of both worlds .
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# Posted: 5 Jan 2009 14:53
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happywife: The internet is a funny thing. You probably wouldn't go up to strangers offline and ask them how much money they are making per year. It's considered a bit 'impolite.' But people do it all the time online.
True indeed! Perhaps its a reflection of the diminished sensitivity that pervades this medium as a result of the mask of anonymity that shrouds it.
One observation is that many of the people who ask these questions are from the "Net Generation" - born roughly between the late 1970s and 1999. They grew up with the Internet, the email (r)evolution, and its penchant for brief, direct and abbreviated communication. So it shouldn't be a total surprise that much of the diplomacy and etiquette we associate with face-to-face communication, is absent from their bag of tricks.
Can you believe this! There are companies today that routinely train new entry-level employees the finer skills of face-to-face communication and email business writing. Why? Because they were finding too many instances of business email with smiley faces, acronyms and the abbreviated jargon that's common to personal email.
happywife: I do understand why we do it in these circles. We want to know that we aren't getting scammed.
Correct. It's part of our search for positive evidence to confirm that we're making the right decision. We need the reassurance, motivation and encouragement.
happywife: Trouble is, you never know who is telling the truth about their income claims, do you?
There you go! Kinda like reaching forward and sliding back... a real Catch 22.
Apart from momentarily boosting your optimism, the unfortunate truth is that it doesn't matter how many people show you evidence of earning a full time online income. That is their reality and it has absolutely no relevance to what you may earn yourself.
Hermas
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2009 17:39
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40 k a year.. Are we talking about work from home Jobs here?
Some people are not lien about how much they are making. Ewen Chia For instants made a Million in 1 day.. But thats because he has lots of affiliates
If you want to make lots of money online study marketing first. once you go that down mark some affiliate products or something..
O and if you seriously lost try ED dales 30 day Challenge.. If you cant make any cash through that you might aswell shoot yourself LOL only Joking. Its Seriously easy.. check it out . Its FREE
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2009 14:06
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happywife: A system doesn't make you money. You have to work to make money. All a system or program can do is show you or teach you the best and most effective way of working. That's what SBI does for those who want to build their own website business.
Hey, I checked out the SBI site in your signature. It looks very good. There are places to get good information, and, like you say, they all require you to make them work!
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happywife
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2009 17:36
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Thanks, Randy.
I've built 4 sites using SBI and keep learning and growing all the time.
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2009 20:18
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I second the 30 Day Challenge it's great and free just like Gavin said. I did it their program is set up to help newbies get started.
Sonni
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2009 08:29
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Geez, my husband works all week long, 6 days a week and makes 40k. I would be happy to make 10k online, if I could find a source! It seems that I have researched everything. Some sites will ask you if you are willing to make a minimal investment. Why? Why do we have to make an investment to get started with a legit site? I have signed up with the companies such as Home Interiors and Avon, but let's face it, these areas are saturated. I want something that I can actually turn in and get paid for; (data entry, etc). I am also trying to get a stationery site off the ground, but find that advertising is so costly. It's frustrating, and frankly, I am tired of hearing how easy it is to work online!
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2009 23:48
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Hey Happywife, this post is simply in reply to let you know that a PPC coach I currently use is coaching about 2,500 people in this premier private club! The secrets that he is sharing with us are unbelievable! These step-by-step video tutorials he displays for us, literally walks you through every thing! I dont mean telling you how to do this but shows you every step of the way! If you are interested check out the videos or pm me if you have more questions!
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2009 04:42
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bdkfreedom: Hey Happywife,
Thanks for the invite. I'm a bit swamped at the moment, but I take a look when I get around to trying PPC.
Katzy: Geez, my husband works all week long, 6 days a week and makes 40k. I would be happy to make 10k online, if I could find a source! It seems that I have researched everything. Some sites will ask you if you are willing to make a minimal investment. Why? Why do we have to make an investment to get started with a legit site? I have signed up with the companies such as Home Interiors and Avon, but let's face it, these areas are saturated. I want something that I can actually turn in and get paid for; (data entry, etc). I am also trying to get a stationery site off the ground, but find that advertising is so costly. It's frustrating, and frankly, I am tired of hearing how easy it is to work online!
Hi Katzy,
I'm sorry you are feeling a bit discouraged. Let me start by saying, "NO, it isn't "easy" to work online and earn money." It can be rather "simple" if you know what to do, but you definitely have to put in the time and effort to make it work.
Depending what you decide to do, there usually IS an investment of some sort. You are wondering why. Let me try to explain...
There's a difference between having an online "job" and building on online "business." Compare them both to offline work.
With an offline "job," you don't usually have to make an investment unless it's for uniforms, etc., or training, but quite often those things are provided by the company.
If you are starting an offline "business," you will definitely have to make an investment - usually quite a substantial one. You may have to buy or rent a physical location (storefront, office, etc.), pay for utilities, phone, stock or office equipment, etc.
The big difference in offline and online is that online, the investment can be very minimal, but usually is still there if you are starting a business.
My investment was $299 for my first year. That provided me with the step-by-step training, domain, webhosting, site building tools, etc., to build my first website business.
You'd pay way more than that for one month of starting an offline business. I was leery about making that initial investment, but in hindsight, I'm thrilled that I did what I did. It was a bargain and well worth it.
If you are only wanting a home job (it sounds like that's what you want), there's a forum/site called workplacelikehome.com that has a lot of information and women doing that. You may find some help there.
Just realize that with a "job" you will only ever be paid a set amount of money for a set amount of time. With a business, it may start out slow, but it can build to a substantial income that requires less and less work.
Hope you find something that suits you.
Blessings,
Angie
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