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# Posted: 19 Apr 2008 13:49
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Hello, to everyone, i wud like to introduce myself to the forum as heavens girl, i'm a newbie here as well as PL -one month- . I been reading you guys advices and comments for the last 2weeks, i must admit i wasn't going to join in here becuz you guys really know what you're talking about and i feel really stupid about everything i didn't realize just how much of a newbie i am. First off i am very determined and persistant person who doesn't give up easy but i been doing PL for about a month reading alot over and over and i have not got anything going yet. i have a few questions to anyone who is willing to HELP! i can't seem to get anything going, i am kinda grapsing the whole concept but putting everything to use i start to get confused.
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# Posted: 19 Apr 2008 21:35
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I am guessing somebody with PL will stop by here soon - but welcome, and there is nothing like a stupid question.
We were ALL new at it at some point or other. It would help though if you could be more specific with your questions or what it is that you are having issues with, so we can try to help you with it.
You'll make it, ask lots of questions and does PL have training and support that you can tap into? If so, that is your biggest tool to get more familiar with everything.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 09:16
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Thank You, for responding i guess my first questions would be i try to start in the Marketplace to promote a product and create a hoplink i get lost from there i have no clue what to do with it, you wud think i wud know after reading all the instructions, i get lost on how to use the link or how to even implement it, where and how do i place it.Also do i need to sign up with Google Adwords first, but reading the advice and response in this forum it looks like Marketplace may not be the best place to start, i was thinking about starting with Adsense and trying my craft there and learn that before jumping into anything else, wud that be safe to say, but the linking of the the hoplinks are what really are confusing me.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 10:44
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If you're going for the AdSense I guess that the hoplink isn't very important (we're talking about Clickbank, right?).
The important is content and a good niche.
My advice:
-Choose a good niche (explained how in the course)
-Create a free blog at Blogger.com.
The whole blog should be around the niche that you chosed.
-Add informative content around your niche and if you want to use your hoplink (which should be relative to your niche) you can proove in your content that this is the product they want/need.
(Better explained in the course (Project Series - Mastering Copywriting))
You should also read through the whole Google AdSense part in your learning area.
Google Adwords is only an option that you don't have to use (it costs money) to drive traffic. You only need to signup there if you want to use it.
Otherwise there's a lot of free methods explained in the course.
Sorry if that's bad explained but as I said, it's in the course.
Bye for now,
Andreas
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 13:49
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Thanks, I am talking about clickbank marketplace I'm not sure on how to link my hoplinks, or any links for that matter to another page, am I suppose to being using the "source" button under my "View" tab to enter links that way or am I misssing something. I did create a Blogger, but haven't done much with it, because I get confuse with all that formatting and placing my links to be activated. Thanks YoungMoneymaker am going to focus more on my Blogger and AdSense, I just need to figure out how to get these hoplinks pasted and activated in my Blogger and Adsense.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 16:06
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Well.. do you mean that you want to make your hoplink clickable in your blog like this?
If that's what you mean then it's really simple using Blogger.
Just login to your Bloggers account, press New Post, write something that you want to be visible (your words) and you will have a little bar right above the place where you can write text, (where you can choose font size, bold text, italic etc)
there you can find an icon with a little green circle,that's the one to use.
Now just mark the word/s that you written and press the little green circle mentioned above, now it should pop-up a box telling you to enter a URL, just link your clickbank hoplink there and you got it.
If you didn't understand what I wrote above (completely understandable because my english isn't too good) then you can follow This link for a better explaination by Blogger themselves.
Also I haven't heard that you can use your hoplinks in your AdSense, I haven't tried it though so I let someone else answer that one.
I hope this helped you a bit anyway.
Bye for now,
Andreas
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 17:17
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Welcome to the forum Heaven's girl!
Like Mountainmom said, we were all new at some point. Never feel bad about asking questions. I'm not with PL, but I wish you the best!
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 17:36
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Hi heavens girl,
My suggestion is to finish the entire Profit Lance course - including all of the ebooks - first before you put anything into practice. Take notes as you go.
Proper education is the first step. This will save you a lot of money and frustration.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 21:22
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As Michael Andrews points out in one of his video's, sometimes you might want to go outside of Profit Lance and learn html. I'm not suggesting to learn another system but just learn some basics about html. You can do a google search and learn what it takes to link and properly form url's. Profit Lance is not a get rich quick method by any means. Incorporate everything that you are able to, of course not spending money that you may not have but look into Adsense, Adwords, blogging, social bookmarking, pinging, writing articles, writing press releases, etc...
For instance. I might find a niche in hmm let me think for a little bit... golf drivers. I might then get a website such as thebestdarngolfdrivers.com. I would use some SEO tactics and get some good keywords on the website (writing about 5 different pages for the site). I would submit my url to the manually to the top search engines or use the site that Michael recommends to submit the site. I would write some articles using the sites that Profit Lance recommends and then write a press release about the wonderful information I found out about golf drivers. I'd hop on a forum or two and relate my information to anyone who would listen. I would blog on a few sites and then ping those blogs. Of course my website would have Adsense ads on them and I might pay a few dollars to have Adwords drive traffic to my website. Most likely Clickbank would have a few golf drivers that I could support and become an affiliate of by putting the links on my website. Because I like to go above and beyond, I would also post some ads on Craigslist and Backpage. I'd hop on some social bookmarking websites and let the world know of my favorite websites. Whew. I know I'm leaving some things out but that is how I like to attack things from what I've learned in using Profit Lance.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 23:29
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affiliate: I would use some SEO tactics and get some good keywords on the website (writing about 5 different pages for the site). I
Do you really only build about 5 pages on your sites? And you are able to generate free traffic to them? That's pretty WOW, I'd say. 
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 23:38
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Yes, I generally start out at 4 or 5 pages for my websites and then slowly build on them as I feel the need to add more information or drive more traffic (keywords). Most of the time I manually submit to the search engines and I do use Adwords from time to time. I've had great success in my real estate investment business by posting to Craigslist, Kijiji, and Backpage. From time to time I also find a way to promote my business through Ebay.
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2008 10:34
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Yes, YoungMoneyMaker like that, or even when promoting clickbank Marketplace item where do i paste the hoplink i created to make it clickable so I can receive my commission and i apologize if I said AdSense earlier I didn't mean using hoplinks with AdSense that was my mistake...still learning. Thanks, everybody for all your input and advice I will take what you guys say and try to implement them and make something happen....wish me luck!!!! P.S.- Talk to you real soon
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# Posted: 21 Apr 2008 15:16 · Edited by: Hemjoe
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Okay heavens girl,
i will try and help you here thing, well we will see anyway, sorry i don't have the time to create a fresh video but i helped someone create a picture and a hoplink in blogger before so i am going to make this video available, now unfortunately there is know sound sorry and it is a bit amateurish but you should understand from the video how to add a hyperlink.
Now before you watch it i just need to say the adding of the hyperlink starts about 50 seconds in, where it says url: and i type something like this fjhfdsgjdghlkjsdhkhg hahaha, thats where you put your link you get from clickbank. eg.
http//y.o.u.r.i.d.profitlan.hop.clickbank.net
in the example i show how you add this to the picture to do this to text all you have to do is instead of highlighting the picture highlight the text you want to hyperlink then click the hyper link button shown in the video.
okay the video is in my signature, i will leave it there until you reply, if this doesnt help i will do my best to create a much better video, but for now we will try this.
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 15:00
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Thanks, Hemjoe i'm going to try it out to see how it works I, really appreciate this because I came to a dead-end for a minute here, I willing to try anything out. I'm going to be busy for the next couple of days but I will definitely get back to you to let you know how its working....THANK YOU.
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Heavens Girl: If you do decide to learn HTML, I have a link for a very good, step-by-step tutorial at the bottom of my comments. Learning html, even the basics, can help spice up your web pages. I use it in Blogger, and it has really helped me. I plan to dive into PL at the end of May, so let me know how you're doing. Also, if I can help with Blogger (I use the classic template) or Adsense, Let me know. I have only been doing Blogger for a month, but if I can help, I will.
Good Luck.
http://www.w3schools.com/html/html_intro.asp
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 18:06
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tahtimbo: If you do decide to learn HTML, I have a link for a very good, step-by-step tutorial at the bottom of my comments.
Thanks for sharing that link, tahtimbo... One of these days I am gonna have to buckle down and learn more html. I know just enough to get by - lol. That stuff intimidates me to no end!
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 18:48
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Man Heavens Girl, your grabbing hold of the tail and going for a ride aren't ya?? It can be tough to jump into the complex world of internet marketing without having some basics of how it all comes together. PL is an excellent system albeit slightly outdated by now, there are a couple of things I've noticed about the PL system that have become obsolete, but it is still a very sound and solid way to learn the basics of marketing online.
From what I can gather, HeavensGirl you are attempting to scratch out an income from clickbank with a blog is that correct??
Could you tell us a little more about what it is you are promoting?? Have you pinpointed a niche? Have you attempted to do keyword research on the niche? How about seeking out a domain name that represents what you are promoting?
Here is a little trick I've found that works pretty well for me and once you familiarize yourself with html and building a website you might want to try this, PL doesn't mention this and he should add it I think.
1) Go to http://tdnam.com Here you will find high quality expired domains for sale.
Look for domains that have keywords in them that correlate with whatever niche you would like to get into. For instance if you are looking to sell vitamins then you might want to purchase a domain like superhealthyvitamins.com it doesn't have to be a superdomain name that costs thousands, just stick with the $10 ones that are available, and there are lots of them.... trust me.
2) After you decide on a domain name and win the bid on it, or even before you bid on the domain go to the wayback machine at http://archive.org/web/web.php to check and see if the domain you are interested in was an active domain at one time. Here you will find all the content that was on this domain when it was active. This is very POWERFUL!! This content will SUPERCHARGE your SEO and move you higher in the google standings at a much faster pace than starting a brand new domain name.
Once you get this content, you throw together a website get it hosted add this content and some of your own, link your blog to the site and do some of the other tactics that have been discussed earlier by the others and you will see a world of difference in your traffic count and ROI.
I know some of this is a little overwhelming right now, but put this in the back of your mind and someday the light will come on and you will be heading in the right direction utilizing these techniques.
Good luck to you
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# Posted: 22 Apr 2008 19:15
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scottsharp never heard this before, but it definately sounds like a good idea, it seems obvious now you say it but before i never really connected it altogether
oh and heaven girl, thinking back now, i was completely oblivious to everything when i started, but is does come to you overtime and clearly you never stop learning as scottshaps comment proves above.
let me know whether the video helps
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 08:55
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First off, scottsharp i'm not sure what you're implying about you're first comment, but i'm just trying to get a general understanding about hoplinks because I am geniunely confused. Second, no I don't know what i'm promoting just yet, but I do know what my passions are and what areas I would like my niche to be in once i figures things out a little bit more, and yes I have tried some keyword research but it gets overwhelming at times then I get lost. Third, It"s only been about a month or so since I started so I'm still very very new to this and had no knowledge of marketing prior to this, but i will keep trying and tackling this until I get it right and make this thing happen. Thank You so much for your advice and resources I will definetly check those out and utilize these and everything you guys put on the floor as I said before I appreciate you guys for even responding to my questions. Also, thanks tahtimbo I wil definetely let you how thats coming along, and Hemjoe thank you for the link i will check yours out too, with so much info you guys gave it will takes some time for me to go thru everything and sort it out, and you're right Hemjoe it will come to me overtime and I will never stop learning i'm very excited about this and I know it will work eventually......I'm a go-getter not a quitter THANK YOU EVERYBODY!
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 11:30
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The advice here is also helpful for non PL folks like me.
I dipped my toe into the affiliate marketing arena (or so I thought). I have a couple of websites so I decided to put a link or two to some affiliate products. Of course I got only one or two clicks.
From reading the posts here, I realize why. I tried to add a few links to an existing site rather than develop a site/blog around the topic/keywords that will compliment the affiliate product that I'm trying to sell.
I had the tail wagging the dog. Now I'm going to put the dog and its tail in the appropriate order and create a blog or site that will promote the product.
If you only knew how much you guys have helped me.
Thanks again!
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 11:43
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tidbits,
Hee, "tail wagging the dog". :)
I like that one. I hope you don't mind if I use it at some future point.
Good one :)
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 11:47
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I wish I could say that I coined the phrase, but I didn't.
Feel free to use it.
I'm glad I'm able to offer at least one morsel that someone can use.
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# Posted: 23 Apr 2008 13:21
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scottsharp,
That's great advice!
However, there's one thing I want to point out. That is if you're
going to use content that was on an expired domain, you'll have to
be very careful about getting into copyright problems.
The same content may be used by the same domain owner on a
different domain. There are services that monitor copyright
infringement such as www.copyscape.com
And even if that content isn't currently being published, it does not
mean you're clear to use it. So if you just previously published
content, you'll need to change it significantly enough so the content
will be unique.
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# Posted: 28 Apr 2008 21:44
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tahtimbo: Heavens Girl: If you do decide to learn HTML, I have a link for a very good, step-by-step tutorial at the bottom of my comments. Learning html, even the basics, can help spice up your web pages. I use it in Blogger, and it has really helped me. I plan to dive into PL at the end of May, so let me know how you're doing. Also, if I can help with Blogger (I use the classic template) or Adsense, Let me know. I have only been doing Blogger for a month, but if I can help, I will. Good Luck.
Tahtimbo, Heavens Girl? Yes, let us both know how your doing. I know how to accomplish all of the questions I see here on this forum and haven't turned a profit in over 6 months of studying Profit Lance. Check out my 6 month challenge thread and feel free to have me walk you through any PL questions you may have......and by the way Heavens Girl; Please, Please spell out words correctly in this forum instead of using text abbreviations. Our children are learning from us how to spell.
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Does anyone know a step by step process for creating hoplinks using the Clickbank PL system? I am very new and very confused. I have registered to use Clickbank and now I am supposed to create a hoplink. I have tried for several days to figure this out and no luck.
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# Posted: 28 May 2008 07:55
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Hi lablonde,
It isn't too hard to create a hoplink with Clickbank.
Have you signed up to Clickbank? Just login with your ID and password. There's a little link at the top of the page that says "Marketplace." Click on that.
Use the search tool there to find products you want to promote. You will see little links below each listing that say "view pitch page" and "create hoplink."
Take a look at the pitch page (sales page) to see if it is something you feel like promoting. If it is, click on the "create hoplink" link. A new little window will open up. It will ask for your Clickbank Nickname. That is your ID. You can create tracking as well but just skip that for now until you get this part figured out.
After you put in your ID click on the "create" button.
You will be given two types of links - the first one is the basic url that has your affiliate link in it. The second one has some additional html to create a clickable link that says "Click Here!" You can change those words to whatever you want the link to say.
I hope that helps you make some progress.
Blessings,
Angie
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# Posted: 28 May 2008 16:14
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Thanks Angie. But when it says to "cut and paste the following hoplink into your web site" --how do you do that? What web site? Still confused. Sorry. I am determined but very unclear about the "mechanics" of this suff.
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lablonde: But when it says to "cut and paste the following hoplink into your web site" --how do you do that? What web site?
To 'cut' or 'copy' something, you put your cursor at the front of the text and hold down the left button of your mouse as you drag the cursor across the text you want to cut or paste. Once you have that text highlighted, you can let go of the button.
For cut - hold down the control (ctrl) button and the letter x (control + x)
For copy - control + c
For paste - control + p
It would be a good idea to open a document in Word or notepad or something and save each of your hoplink codes there by pasting them along with a description of what the code refers to. This way as you need to use it, you won't have to go back into clickbank and get it over and over again.
If you don't have a website, how do you plan to advertise these products you want to promote? If you are placing free ads, you can just paste the hoplink code at the end of writing the ad or in the url space provided depending on what you are doing.
If you do have a website, you just include the link wherever you want it on the page where you are recommending the product you are promoting.
If this is all still over your head, perhaps you should go back and start at the beginning again. You are missing some fundamental basics. You won't get very far if you race ahead of yourself before you understand the basics.
Don't feel bad. EVERYONE had to start at the beginning sometime.
There are some free books available that you can refer to. I would especially recommend you read the free affiliate marketing course. It will give you a better understanding of the fundamentals.
All the best,
Angie
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# Posted: 30 May 2008 10:23 · Edited by: lablonde
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Thanks for trying to help. I have created tons of flyers, designed brochures, power point presentations, written and published books, formed a non profit organization, written grants and rec'd funds, etc. but this is equivalent to driving the car, changing the oil and a flat tire. I am not the mechanic. Since we formed the non-profit I had someone else design and manage the website. It doesn't exist anymore. I didn't create the web site.
The PL came with web sites that I thought were ready to use. I don't know how to go into the websites, however, and add anything. I just don't have the first idea how to work on a website or add things to it. I cut and paste constantly for flyers, brochures, books, etc. but that is not "on a web site." Nowhere did I find anything in PL about creating a website or how to open one of the websites to place things on it . So I am left in complete darkness and have no where to turn. I don't have anyone here that has that kind of working website knowledge. What do I do? Again, how do I open the web site, if that is the correct term, so that I can add hoplinks or whatever to it? I am not familiar with html (obviously) and I just need the basic step by step procedures outlined in clear concise detail so I can proceed. I understand what PL is about. I just need a chance to understand how to add all that "stuff" to a website. There was absolutely no mention of needing to know how to work on a website in the PL material. Is there a free, step by step, for infant beginners, site on the web that will explain clearly how to do this or can you or someone else help me, mentor me or whatever to get me up to speed? I am really wanting to utilize this affiliate marketing to make money. I think I can since researching niches and all that seems right up my alley. Again, it is getting links onto existing websites that has me completely thrown. I stare at the web site and can't do anything with it. Do you have to somehow open the website with another program or I am just too dense to be helped?
I apologize for being illiterate when it comes to what I call the "mechanics" of web site design and adding tools to an existing site. Please have mercy and help me if you can.
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# Posted: 30 May 2008 18:51 · Edited by: scottsharp
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lablonde: The PL came with web sites that I thought were ready to use. I don't know how to go into the websites, however, and add anything. I just don't have the first idea how to work on a website or add things to it.
Hey Lablonde it's Scott again, I feel bad, cause I kind of ditched this thread for awhile after my initial post and I happened onto it again and read through and see your having some teckie issues??
Sometimes when we start out doing this stuff, with all the info you try to obtain we want to make more out of our newly aquired and sometimes overwhelming knowledge than we need to. So let me try to make this as simply stated as possible.
A "hoplink" is basically your personal referral "ID" that clickbank assigns to you so they can track the clicks you receive for whatever product you decide to sell or market for someone else.
For instance, you go into clickbank and find an ebook, it tickles your fancy, you feel as though it interests you, so you would like to write a blog about this subject, and offer this ebook to whomever may be reading your blog. Now here is where your confusion is beginning. PL is saying website, but it doesn't necessarily have to be a website persay, it can be a blog, as stated, or an ezine you have written or >>>re-written <<< more on that if you ask, or even right here in this very forum. All of these places are succeptible to you placing a "hoplink" or your referral URL (clickable link) to.
As stated before in a previous post, you can just copy and paste the link into the text or in your blog..... people click on it...... buy the ebook (hopefully) and the tracking url automatically deducts your portion of the purchase and applies it directly to your clickbank account.
It's really nothing spectacular just a proprietary name that clickbank has given to a tracking url.
Now I really don't want to make your synaptics explode but here's another tidbit, I typically take the assigned "hoplink" and assign a "tiny url" or one of my other tracking url's to it. I know this may blow your mind right now, but the reason I like to do this is for my own tracking purposes, which gives you a tool to analyze where you hits are coming from and thereby utilizing necessary steps to fix the ones that aren't performing well, and seeing where things are going really well. If you pm (private message) me I will try to give you some more info on how to do this. If you look at the bottom of my post, you will see some links that I have placed there, take your pointer and hover it over the "RIOY" link or "10 dollar wonder" link, don't click them...... unless you want to =) and take a look at the text that pops up in the bottom left hand menu bar, see how the text your pointer is on is different than what the text says at the bottom? The links at the bottom are actually "Tracking URL's while the text that your pointer is on is just what I wanted to show you.
I hope this helps a little, don't get discouraged, you will get 'er done with lots of tenacity anyway =).
I've got a P.S. to your post on the next page take a look>>>>>>>
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