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duckbird
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 10:45
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NOTHING
The same thing goes for My Power Mall and Honest Riches.
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 10:49
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Duckbird what sites do you have going at the moment, post a few so we can have a look and see if we can perhaps make some sugestions on them.
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 12:09 · Edited by: duckbird
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Quoting: Hemjoe Duckbird what sites do you have going at the moment, post a few so we can have a look and see if we can perhaps make some sugestions on them.
Here are some of my failed attempts at online marketing.
http://www.parmacoenterprises.com
http://shoppinghappyonline.blogspot.com/
http://mymp3musicdownloads.blogspot.com/
http://profitsviarealestate.blogspot.com/
http://parmacomarketing.blogspot.com/
http://psplevel.blogspot.com/
http://makemoneykeepmoney.blogspot.com/
http://aboutmyhr.blogspot.com/
http://yourpowermall.blogspot.com/
http://whygetprofitlance.blogspot.com/
http://allaboutmp3rocket.blogspot.com/
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 12:26
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From what i can see you have A LOT of blogs not just these but your others as well. From the ones i see here a lot of the content is written by other people (i guess you have taken from an article directory) Now i suggest you concentrate on just few blogs and replace the old content with some fresh original content written by you. Change the looks of the blogs so they all look different. Now others may argue but i feel a blog with colour would do better than one without, thats just a personal opinion.
As for your blog on honest riches, make the links go straight to the honest riches homepage this means there is less chance for people to back down from the idea of purchasing the product.
What kind of traffic are you getting to these blogs?
How much time do you spend per day on on internet marketing?
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 12:38 · Edited by: duckbird
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Hemjoe,
I would like to thank you, Newbie Shield and others who have tried to help me these past few months. But I think it's time I call it quits. I'm never going to be successful at this. I tired of be frustrated everyday.
Some people are born failures and I'm one of them.
Once again thanks guys and the best of luck to you in your businesses.
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 12:49
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I am sorry it didn't work out for you i just wish you luck for the future
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 16:03
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Sorry to hear this duckbird. If you ever want to give it a try again, email me and I'll try to help you as much as I can. Cheers.
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 20:54
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im new to this forum and the profit lance course. its sad to see someone give up on something he obviously took time to create. as for myself, im studying the course and truly believe i can make it happen. so please, if any of you have ANY advice on what works and what dont, let me know!!!
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 21:34
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Quoting: duckbird I would like to thank you, Newbie Shield and others who have tried to help me these past few months. But I think it's time I call it quits. I'm never going to be successful at this. I tired of be frustrated everyday. Some people are born failures and I'm one of them. Once again thanks guys and the best of luck to you in your businesses.
Duck,
Can I share an observatoin with you? You buzzed through PL way too quick. You couldn't have possibly studied much of the material well. You put up way too many sites in too short of a time.
My guess is these are the two reasons it didn't work out.
Just take a deep breath, step back, and relax. Rewind to the beginning of PL. Read ALL of it including all of the ebooks. Take careful notes in MS Word. This includes business ideas that come to you in your head.
It takes 3-4 months of reading and studying several hours a day to finish the PL course. You need this entire course first.
Then decide on ONE site to work very carefully with. Do that. Make it all original content. Don't use other authors. Promote it well. Once that is done, do the same with two more sites in the same way. Stop there.
You went way too fast. Stay in the game but do it right. You'll get income. I still say you should create a humor site. Don't do it the way it's already been done. Think hard about being original. That's an alternative. You have made me laugh several times with your good humor.
I hope you don't quit.
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# Posted: 8 Dec 2007 22:21
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Great advice!  
Countless of others blame the course or ebook that they've bought
for their failures. Most of these people have the same in common.
...jumping from one thing to the next without fully understanding
and correctly implementing what they've learn.
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 12:34
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I agree that you moved way too fast with the course. It does take time and patience.
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 19:57 · Edited by: archer10
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I could also agree that you probably skipped right through everything because I can identify with having umpteen million blogs and getting discouraged after a few months myself.
Listen I was in the exact same position finding the new niches building blogs with already written content ( that's a flaw with Pl) but it's ok because he is teaching you the idea and that's what matters most.
Anyways dude don't get discouraged and don't call yourself a failure.
"Remember Success is 90% Failure" or something like that.
Hey I didn't see my first sale until after about 3 months and then not for another 6 months and in between all I did was study my ass off trying to find out how I made that sale while learning how the process works in the meantime.
I think things happened beyond our control sometimes and that was one of them for me. Some higher power was trying to catch my attention and didn't want me to give up by giving me a taste of what the reward would be like. That was plenty enough because I was about to give up until that moment happened.
You can ask Mike about that if you like, because I sent him an email saying I was going to quit.
Conclusion: All that learning is paying off big time. I'm doing really well for myself now and the sky is the limit. " Endless Possibilities"
Don't Give Up Bro! Contact me for help, I think were all reaching out.
Isn't that enough to change your mind you have a network of partners right here ensuring that you make success happen.
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2007 17:12
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duckbird - Don't forget that PL and Honest Riches are instructions on how to do internet marketing. My Power Mall is a website/program TO market. It also takes time. Even if you got a full downline with MPM you won't see any income until everyone shops and their purchases/rebates go through the merchant's systems. That can take a few months to see. But the potential is there. It's not a get rich quick opportunity. Don't give up, and listen to the experts on here.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 01:58 · Edited by: duckbird
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Quoting: Newbie Shield It takes 3-4 months of reading and studying several hours a day to finish the PL course. You need this entire course first.
Taken from the Profit Lance website
The best way is to give you a risk-free evaluation of my course for eight whole weeks. And if you haven't made your investment back in that time, I will refund your money with no questions asked.
This means you have absolutely nothing to lose by trying out Profit Lance for free, but fortunes to gain.
So Mike Andrews is saying you will make your money back after 8 weeks which is about two months. If not not you can get your money back.
But after you get the course, you discover it's going to take 3-4 months of studying several hours a day to learn the course
So my question is why is Mr. Andrews offering only an 8 week money back guarantee when he should surely know its going to take at least 3-4 months to learn the course.
Mr. Andrews is telling me that I should be making a Profit within 8 weeks (two months) but how can that be if it takes at least 3-4 months to learn the course?
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 02:55
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duckbird,
I certainly understand your frustration and anger. You have high hopes and they weren't realized. "Hope deferred maketh the heart sick.." (that's from Proverbs  ).
I don't know how much PL costs since I've never investigated it, but it sounds like the principles are fairly sound based on what I've read on this forum. Perhaps Mike is a bit overzealous in saying you will make your money back in 8 weeks. He probably realizes that most people will get the "bug" and stick with it longer when they begin to understand the system.
I know with SBI there are refunds available, but no actual guarantee of profit within a certain amount of time. The motto is to be a tortoise.
Let me tell you this. The reason I don't really know anything about PL or Coastal or even MPM and the others is because I took some advice to heart when I joined SBI. The advice was this...
Tune out everything else, and concentrate solely on SBI and building your website. It has been so hard to actually do this because there are so many things that clamour for your attention and sound really good. Apart from a few minor rabbit trails,  I followed that advice.
I stuck with the program and focused on it almost exclusively for the last year. Because I don't know PL and the other programs, I can't say for sure, but I suspect the principle would hold true with most legitimate programs. You have to tune out everything else and ignore it so that you can follow one path until you start seeing success.
If I had as many sites/blogs as you in such a short amount of time, I would be grey or bald, I'm sure. I'm having a time just working on my two. And really, I worked on the first one for 9 months straight without any other focus. Now it is almost running on autopilot.
Just because you haven't succeeded yet, doesn't mean you can't or won't. The only way you fail is if you quit entirely. If you can find one subject that inspires you or you find enjoyment in, focus completely on that and build yourself a little empire on that subject alone. Even if it is as silly as chocolate candy! But, hey, don't steal my niche.
Have you ever read the Free Course in my signature? I suggest you print it out, turn off the computer, get a nice hot drink and read.
Just a thought or two...
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 07:45
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Quoting: happywife I don't know how much PL costs
I paid $77.00 for Profit Lance and most recently I paid $37.00 for Honest Riches.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 19:21
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In spite of not making your money back yet, do you feel like you learned some useful information?
When I decided to try SBI, this was my mindset...
- I had dreams of making really good money.
- I had hopes of just getting my money back out of it.
- If worse came to worse, I decided to look at my $299 as tuition fees.
I knew it would cost me at least that much for a computer course on web building at our local college. But, my situation was such that I couldn't do that because I had other obligations on my time.
The results were these...
- I haven't made really good money the first year.
- I did get my money back and have made a modest profit.
- I have a wonderful website built and the skills and understanding to build more.
- I received much more of a tuition than I would have received at our local college; I have no doubt at all on that.
So, although my dreams were not reached, my hopes and expectations were. I'm still shooting for my dreams next year. They now seem much more realistic and achievable.
If you are unable to get a refund for the items you purchased, can you find some level of accomplishment in the things that you have learned both positive and negative? I hope so.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 20:50
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Quoting: happywife In spite of not making your money back yet, do you feel like you learned some useful information?
Yes I have learned a thing or two about online marketing.
Hopefully things will start happening for me by this time next year.
If not, I'll have plenty on knowledge. No money, but plenty of knowledge.
When they're trying to sell you these online market courses, make make it seem like it is so easy to start making money. They never tell you that you have to spend hours upond hours trying to promote your online business.
This is after you spend 3-4 month trying to actually learn the course.
And even then, in most cases, it will take you another 9 months to a year to maybe make a profit.
Right now, my link pop is 63 for www.parmacoenterprises.com
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 21:11
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As I have said on many occasions, you are going to have a hard time making money promoting products to make money. There is just too much competition for someone starting out and learning the ropes to make that their niche. Unless you have a whole lot of money to invest in advertising that is not the best idea.
Unless you get to the point where you realize that and try a different niche, you are probably going to remain frustrated and unsuccessful.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 21:19
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im glad u wont quit. i posted a reply on another thread u had posted on. jus ignore that then. i just started with pl, hope fully in a year i can quit my job. all i need is $80 a day to do that.
shoot as soon as i hit 60 i'll probably quit.
im looking forward to telling my boss exactly where he can shove it.
take 2 of these and walk it out.!!!
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 21:37
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Quoting: happywife As I have said on many occasions, you are going to have a hard time making money promoting products to make money.
Quoting: happywife Unless you get to the point where you realize that and try a different niche, you are probably going to remain frustrated and unsuccessful.
The way things are going, you may be right. So what I'm going to do is stop trying to promote those money making courses and start just submitting and promoting blogs on things like cars, dog training, and gardening and other things most people are interested in. That way, I maybe able to make a few dollar through the Google ads on the blogs.
I guess one thing you can learn from courses like Profit Lance and Honest Riches is, learn all you can about the course, but what ever you do, don't promote the course.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 22:10
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HappyWife is right as usual. Hey Duck, it's good that you are going to switch out of the make money online promotions. It's good that you are thinking about doing something that people are interested in.
But, you should do something YOU are interested in. It's best if you are already good at it or know a lot about it. But it can be something you have a strong desire to learn about.
It's not just the "what topics make money". That can be boring to write about. It's about your passions and expertise. Try to do both if you can. But just make sure it's something that is YOU. It will show in your writing and people will trust you more. Then they will take your advice to try products.
You'll enjoy it much more too.
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 23:03
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Quoting: duckbird I guess one thing you can learn from courses like Profit Lance and Honest Riches is, learn all you can about the course, but what ever you do, don't promote the course.
Yes and no.
No, you shouldn't promote the course as your niche and main income stream. Use the principles in these programs to promote your own niche topic.
Yes, you can still promote the courses as a side venture once you find they have been successful for you and you believe in them. With SBI, I can't seem to help myself. I actually probably annoy people because I can't keep quiet about it. (Sorry everyone).
Other than a couple of links on my "about us" page on my chocolate site and a sig. link in forums, I didn't try promoting SBI at all until after my chocolate site was up and running and bringing in some money. That is when the lightbulb went on in my head and I realized that SBI really does work. It wasn't hype.
Now, I truly want to help people find a genuine avenue to earn an online income. I remember well the frustration of going in circles without any success before I found SBI. I know it is hard to trust "another program" when you already tried a few and failed to bring in any results. I've been there.
That is why I promote SBI so vigorously (too vigorously?) to folks. I don't want them to go through the same frustration that I went through. If they can get on the right path in the beginning, it will save them a lot of heartache in the long run.
I don't encourage people to sign up to SBI to build a site about making money online. Sure, they have an affiliate program and you can earn good commissions from Sitesell/SBI, but if that is your main focus, you will still find it very difficult to build a long term business with it because the niche is too too tough.
Instead, build a niche website about something completely different - like NS said, about something you personally enjoy. Once you have that going well and you are completely sold on SBI, then is the time to promote SBI. Do you see the difference?
Anyway, I hope this helps give you some clearer understanding and focus. My bill is in the mail - ha ha - just teasing!
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 09:15
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Duck,
Give SBI a try. I bet it's what you're looking for. Sign up under HappyWife. She really knows her stuff, especially SBI.
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 17:56
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Happywife - Thanks for the thought about staying focused. I only came into this internet marketing arena around September... but there are sooooo many things out there to buy and learn from and promote and "get rich quick" from. I have the info printed out you recommended, I have Honest Riches, I have PL. And I'm even more overwhelmed. I think I need to do what you said and that's to pick ONE, follow it all the way through, build one website, give it my all and go from there. Focus is the hard part for me... I get sidelined daily just by clearning out junk emails. I'm also making penies to do Hits4pay which maybe I should quit b/c it'll take a million years to reach $25 to get my payout, and all it does is introduce me to other opportunities. See what I mean??? So yes, focus focus focus. I will do that. Then perhaps I will feel on track and even if it's slow with limited time to work and be on the computer, at least I will be going forward, not in a million directions to nowhere.
Thanks!
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 18:44
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Quoting: moneyforgreene I'm also making penies to do Hits4pay which maybe I should quit b/c it'll take a million years to reach $25 to get my payout,
Good idea! Before I joined SBI and started working on my site, I had signed up to several of those types of sites. I realized the futility of it early on, but it was funny how difficult it was to just unsubscribe and cut my losses. It is hard to throw away the time you have already spent. But there is no sense in throwing good time after bad, so to speak. You are wise to realize what a time consuming distraction it is and just go cold turkey.
Quoting: moneyforgreene I have the info printed out you recommended, I have Honest Riches, I have PL. And I'm even more overwhelmed. I think I need to do what you said and that's to pick ONE, follow it all the way through, build one website, give it my all and go from there.
Yes! You will be all the farther ahead for that! I like Honest Riches, and PL sounds pretty good from what I hear in this forum, but I am, of course, biased toward SBI, because of my own experience with it.
For complete novices (like me) SBI has the best laid out system because it already has all the tools integrated for you and you just follow the steps. Everything is there ready and waiting when you need it and you don't have to agonize over the best, cheapest, and most effective tools to use, etc.
The annual fee tends to scare people away, I know. It was scary to me, too. Now, looking back, I just laugh. I had no idea what all I was getting for my $25 per month. It is soooo worth it.
Well, that is my honest and true opinion whether you go through my links or not! 
Regardless, if you decide to build a site outside of SBI, I have no doubt you can if you know what you are doing and apply the same principles they employ within the system. Just don't build a site about internet marketing!!! You'll probably end up just as discouraged and disillusioned as duckbird if you go that route.
All the best.
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# Posted: 14 Dec 2007 21:25 · Edited by: mahfooyee
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Hello,
Is this just me or not but Mike and his customer support are still not answering my emails? Is anyone going through the same thing? I know his plate is full but within 2-3 days is pretty fair but after that is not good. I hardly used customer support but when I did start no response and I'm a member. Boy is frustrating knowing a system can work for you and others with no assistance from support. I'm hopeful I'll get some response soon.
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 00:35
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This is all new to me, and I am glad I stumbled on this forum. I bought PL earlier this week, and I'm embarrassed to admit I thought I would make something like a grillion dollars in a handful of weeks.
Well, not a grillion, but you know, enough to quit my job and keep a modest, but respectable harem . . . maybe a gold tooth or two . . . and I was also looking forward to cultivating a sick mustache.
But after getting into it, I realize now it's going to be a while before I see an income from this. Still, the information it contains, it's well worth the 77 bucks I shelled out.
Right now, I'm just studying the theoretical stuff. Any suggestions about how to proceed? I am about as green as it gets with this. Any suggestions/advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 07:15
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Quoting: mahfooyee Is this just me or not but Mike and his customer support are still not answering my emails? Is anyone going through the same thing?
i have never had this problem mike has always been back to me within at least 24 hours
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# Posted: 15 Dec 2007 09:43
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Hi Soulpowerful,
All I can say is that keep going through Mike's system it is very good and participate more in this forum if you have questions about pLance. The folks here are very helpful and genuine. And hopefully you don't experience what I'm and some members are going through with a lack of customer support.
Peace,
mahfooyee
Hi Hemjoe,
Thanks for responding and I feel like it is unlike Mike to not get back via email. I'm lost for words because I do believe folks have and are benefiting from his system. I'm just a newbie really don't know much about making money online just want to make a legitimate living online and willing to put in the work.
The no response seems to be a common theme throughout this forum. Now it seems some folks are getting replies while others like myself aren't getting a single word. I know his email has changed due to getting spammed like crazy. I sent him an email last Sunday 12/9/7 and still nothing.
I have a question for you Hemjoe. Since you seem to get a reply back within reason could you ask Mike what's going on with his customer support for all of his members? Also can you post his response here? It's not encouraging to know some members are getting their emails answered while many others are not. So disappointed!
Peace,
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