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duffus101
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# Posted: 13 Dec 2007 20:59
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Don't give up duckbird. To be succesful u have to fail first, possibly many many failures. the creator of pl said he wasted thousands before becoming successful.
u definitely have the drive, i just think u hit the gas too hard without learning how to steer first.
i just bought pl, havn't even really gone over the matieral.
but just from looking at ur websites, i advise u to learn how to write engaging/captivating articles, Template was all white(color it up.)
write better articles and make ur website look better and More links spread thru all those paragraphs of reading.
ur writing reads like an encylopedia((boring), i couldn't get thru 1 paragraph. coudn't find ur link, was at the bottom of all that reading. u should put it in multiple places.
i know nothing of marketing but just from surfing the web all the time i can tell u this.
make ur page look better and make ur article/sales copy
more interesting to read.
just don't quit.... keep working at it. what do u have to lose?
except ur time & money
most people waste those 2 precious things anyways.
avg American watches 3 hours of tv a day(time) and also buying stupid junk they have no use for.(money)
i might have wasted 10 min writing this, but i felt compelled to say something. it just seemed like u were giving up on ur self which is a terrible thing. (your previous posts....)
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archer10
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# Posted: 20 Jan 2008 17:14
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It's all about how much effort you are willing to put into it.
Profit lance atleast guides in the right direction, so you know that effort is not going to be a total waste of time.
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pkins03
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# Posted: 29 Feb 2008 04:00
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So what are the products you sell? They never tell you up front what the products are.
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# Posted: 29 Feb 2008 14:39
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Hi Pkins03,
It's an online marketing education though you are welcome to act as an affiliate for PL.
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040107
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# Posted: 29 Feb 2008 17:05 · Edited by: 040107
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Quoting: pkins03 So what are the products you sell? They never tell you up front what the products are.
Once you learn how to sell online, you could sell just about any products you choose.
Profit Lance just provides the education like Newbie Shield mentioned to teach you the how".
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upnorth
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2008 20:45
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I'm with rommo on this,if the way you make money off of this idea is by promoting and selling it how are you going to get an honest opinion from anyone?
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upnorth
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# Posted: 10 Mar 2008 21:02
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I agree with you,it's starting to sound like the old amway scam to me..
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knicky
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2008 08:45
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Profit Lance isn't a scam. It's a thorough education on Internet marketing. I'm very thankful I purchased it. The project section is very clever and has already taught me so much. I doubt that there is any other online course that is as comprehensive as this.
Like any education, you get out of it what you put in. I'm not at the level of some of the guys on here, but I'm confident I can get there.
As you can see from my link, I'm not an affiliate of the programme either. I just think its great.
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andyj00
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# Posted: 11 Mar 2008 15:28
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I agree, I think Profit Lance is great IMO. I joined it a month ago and I'm very impressed. Its accelerated my learning of online marketing no end (together with this great forum   ). Mike always replies to you emails very quickly - so what more could you want?
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upnorth
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2008 09:15
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I know that everyone in this forum is saying how good it is and how much they have learned but i have not heard any of them say that they have made any money with it.So no matter how much you learn about how to make money with profit lance, if you don't actually make money i would say it's a bust..
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jem83
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2008 11:17
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Hi
i notice people in the forum state that they get adsense sites with the profit lance program. Is that an adsense template and you add your own content?
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andyj00
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2008 16:50
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Quoting: upnorth I know that everyone in this forum is saying how good it is and how much they have learned but i have not heard any of them say that they have made any money with it.So no matter how much you learn about how to make money with profit lance, if you don't actually make money i would say it's a bust..
Its a bit early days for me yet as I've been only doing it a month, but this guy here is making quite a bit.....
http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/23_6028_0.html
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upnorth
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2008 19:20
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I would like to believe this guy but i can't,I mean who comes in a forum and says" is anyone else making as much money as I am".It just sounds phony and if you go to his sight he's trying to peddle something else.Everyone else in this forum is saying that they're either not making anything yet or just starting to see some cash flow and this guy and many others on different sights claim that after only a few weeks they're rolling in the money..Don't believe it...Most people say it takes months to even get a handle on things let alone make money...
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upnorth
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# Posted: 12 Mar 2008 21:55
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no one is replying, did i strike a nerve?
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advoc821
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 06:43
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Quoting: jem83 i notice people in the forum state that they get adsense sites with the profit lance program. Is that an adsense template and you add your own content?
Hi guys,
Jem83,
You get a whole site with more 50 pages in it. You can edit it or you can use each page and upload it. But be sure to integrate your adsense publisher ID.
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jem83
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 09:12
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Thanks for reply.
I was leaning towards PL but I came across a thread on this site discussing the fact that Michael Andrews was promoting Ultimate Wealth Package to his list. His credibility has dropped in my eyes if that is true. Anyone know if it is?
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jem83
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 09:22
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Has anyone been a member of earn1kaday? I have been a member for a few months. People are great, owner is fantastic and answers immediately. However, I just don't seem to be moving forward.
If anyone has been a member of the above forum, is it similar to WA? Is there any point in cancelling and moving to WA?
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advoc821
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 09:36
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I have been in Mike's list even before I was a member of PL and up to know he never sent me anything about UWP.
But IMO, I don't think that's true. Why would Mike promote a product similar to his? Well, I think it's similar since they came out almost at the same time. Not unless he is a JV partner of UWP's author.
We all know that "gurus" do make partnerships, this is one of their ways to increase their list number and their earnings.
I know you can't help but be cynical about some things. Maybe you've been scammed before, as we all have. But one thing I've learned in this business is to keep my eyes on the goal and if something works I go for it.
Work hard, Play hard !
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advoc821
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 09:52
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Quoting: jem83 Has anyone been a member of earn1kaday? I have been a member for a few months. People are great, owner is fantastic and answers immediately. However, I just don't seem to be moving forward. If anyone has been a member of the above forum, is it similar to WA? Is there any point in cancelling and moving to WA? thanks
Jem,
It's me again. It seems we keep bumping on this thread.
I am a member of WA but I don't know about earn1kaday.
I only have questions for you:
1. How long have you been with their program?
2. How long have you been studying their program?
3. How many of their teachings and techniques have you applied?
Evaluate yourself first why you think you're not moving forward before jumping from one to the other. This is one of the reasons why some find it hard to succeed in this business, people are always looking at what the other guy was using when he earned money, instead of concentrating on making money for himself.
If you honestly think earn1kaday is at fault through their lack of resources, then by all means look for another course. But if you admit that you are at fault, then the next program you choose would probably just give you the same results.
Just my 2 cents.
Work Hard, Play Hard!
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jem83
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 10:01
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lol yeah fancy meeting you here?!
The people are great and the owner is really helpful - answers immediately. It seems silly to say but I don't feel like I fit in. I feel like the only newbie even though it's not the case.
It has a section on different business models and that you should focus on one at a time. However, some of the models don't have a clear blueprint. It's mainly articles or people asking questions about their business and how to improve it. That's how it works, it doesn't claim to be anything it's not. I think i'd learn better with blueprints and a community.
thanks for your reply!
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i don't know!
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advoc821
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 10:14
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Quoting: jem83 It has a section on different business models and that you should focus on one at a time.
You said it yourself, "one-at-a-time", so did you do it?
Have you tried picking one business model and worked on it?
Then, when you picked the business model that "interests" you, did you look for the questions others were asking that may be similar to your business so you could improve yours too?
Did you ask your own questions so you could make the necessary modifications?
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jem83
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 10:29
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Yes I have. I'm not deluded I know that hard work pays off. I'm not looking for a free lunch or a get rich quick scheme. I'm not blaming the forum but I want to be in a community were I gain motivation and drive not one where I feel useless.
Many people suggest WA is a great community and people seem happy and motivated there. I guess that's why i'm looking for a change and somewhere to build confidence.
I know it's down to me to change my mindset but I think a different community will aid that.
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advoc821
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 10:59
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Quoting: jem83 Many people suggest WA is a great community and people seem happy and motivated there. I guess that's why i'm looking for a change and somewhere to build confidence.
Jem,
I was just making sure that you don't jump from one program to the other without knowing if what you have right now works.
Yes, we definitely have a great community at WA and a lot of the people there are responsible for what I have right now.
The support there is just great, can you imagine a complete stranger (member), walking me by the hand through YM on how I can fix my website? It's like a brotherhood there.
But I also want you to know that there are also a lot of members there that still have not made a breakthrough. And some do quit after a month or two because they think, "they are not moving forward" TOO. So they go look for another course.
I know you understand my point and hope that helps.
That's it for me today, have to sleep now, it's night time from where I am. Nyt guys
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jem83
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# Posted: 13 Mar 2008 11:06
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thanks for your help! I probably didn't phrase it correctly when I said that i'm not going anywhere with that program. It did make it seem that i'm looking for quick money otherwise I move on.
That's definitely not the case.
thanks again for your help
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MouthpiecePC
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 12:46 · Edited by: MouthpiecePC
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I just purchased the program. I had a immediate concern about the program 30 minutes after I purchased it. I emailed [email protected] I did not receive a reply for three days. I emailed him again. It has been two more days and still no response. Before I purchased this, I thouroughly read up in this forum and others. The one thing that stood out for me was that Mike was dependable answering questions via email. It is obvious to me at this point that this is the farthest from the truth. I feel ripped off and now I will have to proceed through a process of recovery of my investment. It is a shame because I was looking forward to learning from this course. Unfortunately people want the money but they dont want to provide the services for it. 
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advoc821
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 13:03
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Quoting: MouthpiecePC I just purchased the program. I had a immediate concern about the program 30 minutes after I purchased it. I emailed [email protected] I did not receive a reply for three days. I emailed him again. It has been two more days and still no response. Before I purchased this, I thouroughly read up in this forum and others. The one thing that stood out for me was that Mike was dependable answering questions via email. It is obvious to me at this point that this is the farthest from the truth. I feel ripped off and now I will have to proceed through a process of recovery of my investment. It is a shame because I was looking forward to learning from this course. Unfortunately people want the money but they dont want to provide the services for it.
MouthpiecePC,
Hi! There may be other reasons why Mike has not replied yet. Being able to not get an immediate response is not something that you should feel "ripped off" about since you still haven't tried if the program works.
If you like, you can post here or PM me for whatever that concerns you, I am not a guru but I will try to help you as much as I can while you are waiting for Mike's response.
He just released a new pdf tutorial on a certain subject just a few days ago, I don't know why he has not replied yet. Maybe it's because of the Easter holidays.
Again, post here or just PM me if you want a Profit Lancer's help.
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 18:55
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MouthpiecePC
mike has had trouble with sending emails to certain email servers
i have never had a problem with contacting him, if you look through this forum you should find some threads exaplining this,
i own the profit lance course and will always reccomend it to others as it has taught me so much
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040107
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 19:15
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You guys need to stop posting Mike's email all over the forum!
The main reason why Mike have been having problems receiving
emails is because because of this.
When you post someone's email on the Internet, automated email
harvesters scours the net and picks it up. It is then put into a
database so spammers can send out offers of all sorts, including sex
and adult-related stuff.
This is what has been happening with Mike. It has gotten so bad
that he had to abandon his previous email. As a result, he wasn't
able to reply to the he emails received.
I'm sure all of us has had problems with spam emails.
I agree with advoc821 about you should not feel being "ripped off"
simply because you didn't not get an immediate response to your
email. However, I understand the need for immediate gratification
in this day and age.
There could be many reasons why you're not getting a response.
Sometimes it's our own fault (wrong email). Sometimes it's the
recipient's fault (haven't checked, overlooked, forgot, busy, etc.).
Then sometimes it's beyond our control (spam filters, ISP error, etc.).
Whatever the case, posting someone's email in a forum may not
and may make things worst. Make sure you're emailing to the
right email. If you need someone's email, ask people to PM you
using the forum's private messaging service.
If you have a concern, why not post it here like advoc821 said and
see if anyone can help you while to get in touch with Mike.
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 21:03
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I appreciate the replys from advoc821,
Hemjoe, and 040107. Also I want to especially thank advoc821 for the offer to help me if I have questions. Let me also thank the people whom created this forum for us to communicate per Profit Lance.
Let me explain my concerns and premature opinions from my initial experience purchasing Profit Lance. Let me also give you a breif experience that lead me to purchase the program.
I am currently a member of Wealthy Affiliate. I joined their program two weeks ago. It appears to be a good program thus far and I plan on learning as much as I can from the course. The problem I have with their program are their videos. The sound is severely chopped and the videos freeze. I brought this to their attention. They say they are working on it. I started researching other options that have videos with screen shots for learning. I researched this course thoroughly and found it to have more videos and a good reputation which attracted me to the purchase. I understand the videos are only a small part of both courses but they are very important to me. I have a hard time comprehending text without seeing it with my own eyes. I figured I would have a better chance of learning having both.
Cliffs;
I purchased Profit Lance
I sign in and start to view the videos
The sound is chopped and some videos are studdering
I see the same software was used to create the videos(Camtasia) as wealthy affiliate is using.
I email Mike twice now. This is where I am at.
I post in this forum hoping someone can help shed some light on the subject. The biggest flag for me is Mike not answering my emails.
Just to nip a few of your questions. I have 20 computors. I have built over 75 from scratch. I have repaired over 200 as a hobby. I own a plumbing company and have been in business eleven years. Its not about the money.
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# Posted: 18 Mar 2008 22:04
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Quoting: MouthpiecePC Just to nip a few of your questions. I have 20 computors. I have built over 75 from scratch. I have repaired over 200 as a hobby. I own a plumbing company and have been in business eleven years. Its not about the money.
MouthpiecePC,
I apologize if I have made any remark that may have questioned your integrity as a person, if it came out that way, I would like to clear that it was not intended.
I understand that it's not about money. You have paid for a service and it's natural to expect what has been promised. It's every consumer's principle including me.
I immediately went to my member's dashboard (both Wealthy affiliate and Profit Lance) checked on the videos as I have not checked on them for a while now.
I had a problem with the WA videos so what I did was paused it when it started to load, then clicked on the play button once the loading is full. That fixed the problem.
I did not have the same problem with the videos in PL, I tried playing 5 at random and they played automatically on a different window. There are no controls like the ones in WA so the "pause" thing can't apply here if you still have the same problems.
I am a tech-dummy so I don't think I could help you with the tech stuff but here's some ideas that you might want to look into like:
- the speed of your internet connection
- and other tech stuff that you might be more knowledgable about than me.
If you have already considered the other tech stuff, then I think we really have to wait for Mike's reply as to what's wrong.
Clearly, with your technical knowledge, you have a great advantage than most internet marketers. I am a big fan of video tutorials and a real visual learner but I just hope that you could extend more patience and not let this drawback hinder you with your goals.
I know I have not been much help to you but in case there are "other stuff" you want to ask, the offer is still open. You have the 2 best resources online, I hope it will help you as it was able to help me.
To your success!
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