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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 17:46
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Thanks Jena!
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 22:19
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Congratulations Jena -now you'll be earning the big bucks! So what advertising worked best for you to get those 2 Level 3 directors? Please tell all.
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 00:17 � Edited by: JenaV
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Thx so much.
It's explained that positioning ones self in at Premier or Plat is where you make income $1000 or $3200 from the start of your business.
See with the CWB you only pass the 2 training sales AT THE LEVEL you start at.
I came in at Plat, so I only owned Steph my 1st two Plat sales, I've kept everything below Plat. Steph has helped me with every sale, even if she doesn't make any commission from my lower level sales.
I'm now released and in 100% profit for myself, but I'm not in business by myself. Steph has become a great frd of mine, and will continue to help me as needed. Plus, I have an ARMY of support troops better known as the CWB!!!
Judy I hope I answered your question. Warm Regards, Jena
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 00:27 � Edited by: JenaV
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Judy,
I want to add. It was work, but not as Hard as punching "the man's clock" and hoping to get time off or dealing with office politics. Yes, I am persistent & consistent! Not Luck, I'm truly Blessed by the Lord. I have an awesome relationship with the Almighty. Check out my About Me link on my website & you'll understand why.
I don't like hype! But I've had a very good experience. That's why I encourage all to ask questions, get references. I have nothing to hide. That's why I like the quote 'no man has a good enough memory to lie successfully' Abraham Lincoln
Warm Regards, Jena
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 09:51
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Jena, it's not only CWB that offers the 2 up training sales at the level you come in at. Other groups and even those not with a "group" offer that as well.
Not sure if you were aware of that, imagine someone who came in at L1 and wanted to qualify Platinum especially since L1 is the starting point to qualify, that's not to say tho you cant start as a Premiere or Platinum level!
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 10:15
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Quoting: JenaV See with the CWB you only pass the 2 training sales AT THE LEVEL you start at.
I thought that was the NORMAL procedure anyway that is what I have gathered from the training put on by the BOD.
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 10:16
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Jena,
I think what Judy was asking was where did those 2 sales come from. Word of mouth? Warm market? your own advertising? Referral and/or purchased leads?
Again Congrats!
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 10:25
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Quoting: rhondap Quoting: JenaV See with the CWB you only pass the 2 training sales AT THE LEVEL you start at. I thought that was the NORMAL procedure anyway that is what I have gathered from the training put on by the BOD. __________________ Rhonda Peterson
Exactly Rhonda!
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 11:41 � Edited by: JenaV
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Good Morning Ladies,
No that's not standard practice with all groups. However, it is, with the Board and those groups that follow the Boards practices.
This is why IT IS important for all of those who are seriously looking into Coastal, to ask LOTS of questions!
Rhonda, I don't know if I mentioned this in our conversation a while back, but I started with the CSG (L1, but asked to upgrade after I closed to L2 sales in my first 10days) in July last year. I was forced to give up my 1st 2 sales, didn't matter what level I came in. It was whatever first two sales closed. Also, when I asked q's about upgrading again to L3, I was told MY 1st two sales at any package would Qualify me!
Not true!!! I was talking to Steph by this time. When I asked that question of that CSG Director. (it was a setup question)
Anyway, I found out they preform random audits at the Shipping Ctr - had my New L3 (under CSG) been pulled and verified I would have lost my privilage to purchase wholesale and be forced to process new orders through the director that issued me my release. Guesswhat? That CSG director would keep the order money, until two Level 3 packages were linked to my name, to verifiably issue a L3 directors release. Maybe I forgot to mention that...
It's been a year since I tracked down Steph (9/14/06). I actually made the decision to RE-Invest at L3. I'm glad I did! My old Director could have lynched both of us at the Shipping Ctr with Complaints that I was stolen and the money should have went to her. It could have BEEN real ugly and IT WAS!!! But I got a 'New I.D. number' under my new director (Steph) and the old director couldn't touch me/ us with a 10 foot pole!!!
What I mean by a group plugged into the Board. Is, when I asked about the Official system and the Tele-Center. (I really like the TeleCenter and the features for the price, too Compared to CSG outrageous and deep pocket expense) I was told by THAT director from CSG Leadership that the Board wasn't important, and to stop wasting time and focus on AOMA. I was told, just use the CSG setup - Because the Board was insufficient & insignificant.
But that's the past and I no longer have to deal with unethicial ppl. I have a Director, Group and Product that I can full heartly Believe in. My journey over this last year has been Awesome, & Amazing. And that goes for my personal life too. I may be getting older, but I'm getting BETTER!!!!
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 12:09 � Edited by: JenaV
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Maybe? Judy is this what you meant? Quoting: rhondap I think what Judy was asking was where did those 2 sales come from. Word of mouth? Warm market? your own advertising? Referral and/or purchased leads?
If so, no... my two training sales came from Networker Central leads, that I purchased. My other sales have come from the Standard Vendors, like... CEM, Key2Net, however most, have come from Networker Central - I have 15 sales all together(with CWB), including my trainings sales. I probably could do a lot more business, if I had the time. My 3 kids keep us going non-stop. However, I've committed 8-10 a week to my business, since the start in 9/06 and I stick to that. So far it has worked wonders!!!
MY Secret, has been stay consistent and persistent.
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 21:46 � Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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Your story is an inspiration to us all. You have definitely stuck to your guns. Many dont have success in something right away and just quit. This is a marathon and not a sprint. If you continue to grow and keep going Coastal will work for you.
Coastal is for sure a winner. With commissions of $1000- $9705 we can change our lives around very quickly. Stick to it and Coastal will work for you. All it takes is one platinum sale a month to earn over 100k a year. That is the carrot that keeps us all going. Remember everyone loves travel so learn how to market and the world is your oyster.
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 22:02 � Edited by: JenaV
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Awesome Adam! That's the same Carrot, that keeps me going!!! I don't want to get rich. I want to enjoy life and all the great things that come with it. I just want to continue to stay home with my children and be here for my best frd and husband.
You know what I mean... That is what keeps moving me forward.
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 08:28
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Quoting: JenaV If so, no... my two training sales came from Networker Central leads, that I purchased. My other sales have come from the Standard Vendors, like... CEM, Key2Net, however most, have come from Networker Central - I have 15 sales all together(with CWB), including my trainings sales. ................... JenaV - Can you expand and explain the above? A lot of new people are looking for direction - and have no clue what these vendors are - what they do - or what you do.
Thanks
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Quoting: JenaV Also, when I asked q's about upgrading again to L3, I was told MY 1st two sales at any package would Qualify me! Not true!!! ........................................ Ok - this is equally confusing for newbies. Can you please outline in detail the qualifications for moving up to the next level? Are you saying that people must give up their first 2 sales "at each lever" i.e. 6 in total to get to L3?
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Quoting: JenaV I don't want to get rich. I want to enjoy life and all the great things that come with it. I just want to continue to stay home with my children and be here for my best frd and husband.
There are alot of great reasons to work with Coastal. I'm leaving at the end of this week for a week in Orlando. We generally go twice a year, but have not made it this year...so it's time! My favorite place to eat in Orlando is Earl of Sandwich at Downtown Disney.
We went to dinner last night with some friends and the husband and wife had never been to Disney World. This benefit alone is a reason to join Coastal.
Jay NaPier
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Jay this sounds like so much fun! Have fun and get a little R & R. Best wishes, Jena
Quoting: jnapier There are alot of great reasons to work with Coastal. I'm leaving at the end of this week for a week in Orlando. We generally go twice a year, but have not made it this year...so it's time! My favorite place to eat in Orlando is Earl of Sandwich at Downtown Disney. We went to dinner last night with some friends and the husband and wife had never been to Disney World. This benefit alone is a reason to join Coastal. Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 09:17 � Edited by: JenaV
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Quoting: asebf Ok - this is equally confusing for newbies. Can you please outline in detail the qualifications for moving up to the next level? Are you saying that people must give up their first 2 sales "at each lever" i.e. 6 in total to get to L3? __________________ Bob
Yes Bob, that is what will happen, if that is the route the New Distributor wants to go with.
See, that's why coming in at the Highest possible level. Saves the New Distributor (Time, Money & EFFORT)
If they come in at Level 2, they will keep all Level 1 sales ($1000 profits) and only pass the 2 training sales at Level 2. Then they are a Release Level 2 Director.
Now, if they want to stay there, they can! But when And only When they are Ready to move to Level 3, they can. Nobody pushes or says they have to move up.
See as Level 2 they can sell L3 packages, but have to process the order through their Originial Director (who should be L3) Only L3's can process L3 orders.
If the L3 wants to compensate that L2 director. Then they can. So Level 2 Directors can sell Level 3 BUT can not order L3 at wholesale, they have to process the order through their Director or L3 team mate.
Now the Good News is when the L2 goes to upgrade that L3 sale will be credited toward their L3 Director's Release, so the previous L3 sale will count as a Training Sale!!!! yay!
Did I answer this? Or did I tie you in knots again.... Let me know.
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Quoting: asebf Quoting: JenaV If so, no... my two training sales came from Networker Central leads, that I purchased. My other sales have come from the Standard Vendors, like... CEM, Key2Net, however most, have come from Networker Central - I have 15 sales all together(with CWB), including my trainings sales. ................... JenaV - Can you expand and explain the above? A lot of new people are looking for direction - and have no clue what these vendors are - what they do - or what you do. Thanks Bob
These Vendors are my Advertising agencies. They have ads in Magazines, TV commercials, Internet request forms, post cards, etc... The ppl respond and I purchase a certain amount of advertising. I have a budget of $300-$600 a month. I buy leads. I do not consider it 'Cold Calling', because as the person fills out the information request. The form lets them know, someone will be contacting them shortly. My system sends them an email, letting them know I will be callingwith the information about Working From Home.
I think that covers it...
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Quoting: JenaV If the L3 wants to compensate that L2 director. Then they can. So Level 2 Directors can sell Level 3 BUT can not order L3 at wholesale, they have to process the order through their Director or L3 team mate.
From what I understand if say I am L2 and sell a L3 package I would get the commission that I would get for L2 and my L3 Director gets the difference. That is my understanding from the training calls I have attended through the BOD. Is this not correct? If not then that is not fair and why would I market a higher package than I am qualified at if I won't see any compensation, KWIM?
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 10:30
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My understanding is when L2 sells L3, that's exactly why they upgrade. So they do not miss out on the $9705 commission.
Because that commission goes to the Person Qualified to process that order...
This understanding comes from my Director who serves on the Board, from when I was in CSG, and from when I spent a little time with DFI and from currently being with CWB.
It appears as a Standard across all of Coastal. Unless, I'm wrong
Jay or Adam would you mind helping us out with this? Thx.
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 10:32
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Jena,
You understand correctly,
Jay NaPier
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 11:31 � Edited by: mountainmom5
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Quoting: asebf Can you expand and explain the above? A lot of new people are looking for direction - and have no clue what these vendors are - what they do - or what you do.
The lead vendors are the agencies that do all the advertising , whether it is online, through print ads, on TV or wherever and they all have lead packages to fit your budget.Both Networker Central dot com and cutting edge media dot com are reputable lead companies that a lot of people in Coastal have had success with..
I personally like the live leads from cutting edge (CEM) as they get sent to our email the minute they respond to an ad online...They are hot and fresh...
If you find a lead source online, call them directly to see what their customer support is like,etc....You get what you pay for - if you can buy 1000 leads for $50 or something like that, then you will very likely be buying leads that have been resold several times and will be hard to get ahold of..
My budget is usually within $400 - $600 a month as well - I just call CEM and order a batch of their live leads - they have WONDERFUL customer support - you can set it up with most lead companies to have a monthly auto-ship on your leads....
Hope this helps a little
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 12:03
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Quoting: JenaV Forgive me, but I must shout it from the Rooftops! I AM a Released Level III director!!!!! Party!!!!!
CONGRATUALTIONS Jena! That is so exciting!!!
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 12:46
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Viola - Nice break down, kudos!
Lora Thanks, I can't wait to announce it on the Live Q&A today!
Jay as a always My Hero!
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 13:12
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I am on the call and listening for your testimony Jena!!
I love it when you step out and share!You have such a 'knack' with words......
Viola
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 13:21
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Viola,
Thank you sweet lady.
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Jena,
I am so excited for you - I have someone upgrading to level 3 this month , which will qualify me out unless I have a L3 come in before then...Can't wait - this is such an exciting business...
Especially when we get to help others achieve their dreams as well!
Viola
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 13:36
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AWESOME - What great news! The best to you Viola.
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O.K. guys. From my understanding with the WCYS (which I'm with) as a Level 2 director if I sell a Level 3 package I keep $3000 and the other $3500 goes up to my upline. Our commission is smaller on Level 3 as our sales centre has to do more work to secure them. If I want to sell a Level 3 on my own without the sales centre I'm not sure if the same logic applies though.
So my question is if I have a person working under me who sells a Level 3 package and I am still at Level 2 does that person have to go under my director? That seems a little removed to me. Do you only keep people under you who are the same level or lower?
Thanks for sharing re the leads Jena. Your story re the CSG was very confusing to me -were you trying to say that in order to be a qualified director with them all the commission went to the director above you until you sold 2 Level 2 packages? When you moved to Stephanie you had to spend an additional $11000 to work under her or was it just an add on to move up.
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# Posted: 2 Oct 2007 03:56 � Edited by: JenaV
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Hi Judy,
What I was saying is CSG would have Gave me a Director's Release (L3 had I upgraded, I was a L2 director w/ 2 L2 trng sales when I left), that may or may not have be valid. Depending on my Training Sales. The Random audit would have verified my training sales.
IF.... I didn't have 2 sales at the Level of the Director's Release issued in my name. I would get a letter stating that I no longer had the privilege of purchasing Wholesale and would have to process orders through a Valid Director (which would be my Director) commission part of your question. I don't know for sure... But I'm guessing it would be up to that director. In my case, she (the CSG director) would have kept the commission.
Judy give me a call I explain exactly why I choose to re-invested with Steph. I didn't have to but I did. 505-205-1451
Go to page 3 for the rest of the post...
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