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savannah
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 17:42
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How does one learn of changes made to the package, additions, replacements? I have sent in to activate my package a while ago and have not gotten anything back yet but will I learn of changes once I recieve my membership cards?
Also on the #620 conferance call for wealthbuilders they give a code at the end of each call so prospects can recieve a "vacation voucher" but how do they claim the voucher? someone said they need to send $6.95 into the shipping center with the code and a letter but if this is true does the director who sent the person to the call pay this $6.95?
I know this should be a question for my director but I never can get a hold of that individual. Any help?
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jnapier
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 17:45
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Hi Savannah,
The Coastal Board of directors begins sending out the updated memberships before the announcements. Those who are new automatically begin getting the updates. Senior members can send in a Self Addressed Stamped Envelope or request it with an order.
I can't speak for the Wealthbuilders, but you will send in $6.95 traditionally for a bonus certificate.....When you are a part of the Official System...the certificates are sent out with a SASE.
Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations
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decker2006
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 18:08
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Jay,
How "new" do you have to be to get updates in the mail? I think I am pretty new but have not gotten any updates.
Savannah,
What do you mean that you sent in to activate your package but have not gotten anything back yet?
Noreen
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jnapier
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 18:40
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Hi Noreen,
If you've got your membership before say April 15th, you should write to the shipping center with a sase to get the updates. If you've not gotten them as of yet...Wait about a week or two to get the June 16th updates.
Jay NaPier
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decker2006
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 19:08
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Thank you. How do we know when to send in for updates? I will wait a week of course considering all the updates coming up.
N.
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savannah
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2007 10:53
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decker I sent in the $25 activation about 3wks ago and have not recieved anything yet, I hope I get it soon
Jay,
What is a SASE? I got my membership before the 15th but was slow about activatiing it. As far as I know Im part of the Official System, I mean I get messages all the time from the BOD in my back office of the COA system. Is that what you mean by Official System?
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asskusabouttrav
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2007 11:14
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That is what is called the official system Savannah.
SASE is Self Adressed Stamped Envelope.
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Lola
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2007 22:55
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Thanks everyone, kind of embarrassing not to know what SASE stands for but thanks for the clarification. I finally recieved my cards in the mail and I must admit I am very dissapointed. The "Coastal Vacations Travel Card" seems to be invalid. The cust. service numbers on the back say they do not honor the card and have never heard of it. Whats going on? Considering I just recieved the cards
I would think since I just recieved the cards that any updates/changes would be included in what I recieved.
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ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 23:46
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Its funny we are talking about updates. For months I tried in vaine to get the CSG Leadership to update me on the March CV seminar. Now I was part of their leadership and couldnt get an answer. How do you think my teammates felt. If a leader cant get an answer then what. Well recently I started my site with the BOD and now I get updated info all the time. Im always getting voicemail. I love it. This is what I need to run my business. I noticed Noreen was asking about updates and that concerned me as in my opinion she was a bit of a seasoned veteran as she makes post all the time. Why hasnt her upline and group given her updates? Things like that concern me as people can fall thru the cracks. How can you be in Coastal for a period of time and now get updates from your upline? How can that be good for your business?
I dont always see eye to eye with everyone in here esp Noreen but she is part of the Coastal family and as a member its her right to have all the updates. I think we should all as a group be sure that everyone that comes to this forum is as educated as possible about Coastal. It only makes us all better.
Noreen if you need updates let me know I will personally be sure you receive them. That goes for you all. I imagine as a group if we all come together we could actually post new stuff we get on here so everyone knows the deal. I know we are all in Coastal and working towards the same ideal so lets all work together.
Adam
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beckie1229
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2007 08:12
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Adam, we help each other but we don't have "uplines". In Direct Sales/2 ups we help people with the first two sales. Now, we all help each other no matter what, but it's everyone's/ every team's responsibility to go onto BOD calls and get info. and go onto team calls and check back offices to get the skinny on whats going on.
Especially with Coastal, which is not a "company" in the traditional sense of the word. That's why one's choice of Director and team is very important.
Hope that helps.
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ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2007 09:50
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Beckie,
I appreciate your post but I disagree a bit. We do have uplines in this 2up system. Thats why there are so many groups. Because the "Leaders" in CSG, CWB, WCYS and the other groups come up with systems to train their members. The job of a director is to coach , train and mentor their team. Unfortunately no one is really training their teams (by no one I mean in general) and many fall through the cracks. In this forum we see new people in here all the time asking questions their directors should have went over in a game plan interview. Its a shame the questions that are asked. Now I commend them for coming out and asking but it makes me wonder about their director. Training sales are to train people. Not to just get their money and be off to the next sale.
Again my example is different as I was in the CSG. They talked about training and support but that was more to get us into buying the products the LIFESTYLE coaches sold. I mean how does a seminar about CV go on and no where on a call or a update on our website or even an email is anything mentioned. When I asked a member of the CSG PERT (CSG product education and retail team) which by the way I used to be a part of for an update they sent me to the official BOD site for updates. Nothing in our system I paid $149.95 a month for. HUH? That makes no sense I thought. I even got word that that member did an update call for their own team but nothing for the entire CSG which they represent as a CSG Pert member. This is what I mean by the training not being there.
This attitude is directly proportional to the massive losses in membership the CSG is feeling now. Its also why the CV BOD has created the Non-Recruit agreeement as they are trying to protect the integrity of CV from such as I call them "vultures".
What it really comes back to is no matter how great a group you are part of the responsibility comes back on you. You are the owner of your business so get all the details for yourself from the source (CV BOD) and make your own choices.
Adam
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jnapier
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2007 14:43
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer Again my example is different as I was in the CSG. They talked about training and support but that was more to get us into buying the products the LIFESTYLE coaches sold. I mean how does a seminar about CV go on and no where on a call or a update on our website or even an email is anything mentioned. When I asked a member of the CSG PERT (CSG product education and retail team) which by the way I used to be a part of for an update they sent me to the official BOD site for updates. Nothing in our system I paid $149.95 a month for. HUH? That makes no sense I thought. I even got word that that member did an update call for their own team but nothing for the entire CSG which they represent as a CSG Pert member. This is what I mean by the training not being there. This attitude is directly proportional to the massive losses in membership the CSG is feeling now. Its also why the CV BOD has created the Non-Recruit agreeement as they are trying to protect the integrity of CV from such as I call them "vultures". What it really comes back to is no matter how great a group you are part of the responsibility comes back on you. You are the owner of your business so get all the details for yourself from the source (CV BOD) and make your own choices.
Very Well Said Adam!
You know, I've done my best to provide my team with the best of the best in training..."Sometimes" that was through the CSG and other times it was through the Coastal Board of director and still other times it was information I got from an outside source that was easily appliable to Coastal Vacations.
I was not able to attend the March Coastal Seminar in Orlando as I had bought a training event that was the same weekend ( I really wanted to be in Orlando and would have gone there if I could do it over again) I was REALLY surprised that the CSG was keeping the updates from the entire membership. I had to do what MOST would do...seek out the information and Jeff Mills Podcast proved to be one of the best tools for this information....even if they were asked not to do it from the event. ( Which I do not agree with. I believe it was a great - non-bias tools for Coastal).
In my research I've found it tough to find out what a "Game Plan Interview" is. I was even on a back to basics theatre presentation put on by the CSG and 45 minutes of that was all hype. If I'm on the right page it's basically the opportunity for the new associate to begin buying leads - or the director goes to CEM and buys leads for them....that's the best I could get from the CSG Training on this subject.
I've learned about of Coastal by not being bias to one group or one way to doing the business. I support all my team members with ALOT of options when it comes to marketing. Heck, Jeff Mills and I shared the front cover of Home Business Advertiser and I believe we each found the same thing...that media was not worth the investment.
It is YOUR responsability to learn how to run your business. Your director is responsible to you, but not FOR YOU.
One of the BIGGEST challenges I see with "groups" that don't openly share information or the groups that are bias is that there's an underlying message to BUY Stuff that is not required for success.
Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:12
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Quoting: beckie1229 Adam, we help each other but we don't have "uplines". In Direct Sales/2 ups we help people with the first two sales.
I have to agree with Adam on this one.
So what you are saying is that a Director is only in it for the $$money (2up) and after that don't count on him/her for anything,
that's not the way most Director's work with the people who entrusted them with their business.
A good Director will coach their team long after the "SALE"!
It's NOT all about just the SALE.
I now belong to a team where the Coach sends us daily email updates. What that does is to help me to help our team members to stay current with marketing and advertising.
In addition as Adam and Jay said, your business is your responsibility so yes staying plugged in to the BOD calls is vital to your success.
I am going to get the BOD site in addition to my other sites so I can stay plugged in that way as well.
So to sum up bottom line is a good director is not in it for just the money they have a true interest in helping their team members long after the sale.
Your business is your responsibility and your Director is there to support you.
Terri
(just got in on the red eye from Vegas, almost had to stay another day because of Pilot strikes.)
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ateamfuntimer
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:52
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Wow Terri and I agreed. And whats better is I agree with her entire post. It is your own responsibility to get the info yourself but your director should be able to be there for support. Many directors have different stlyes and some are more hands on that others, but the bottom line is that when they prospected you they told you there was a system in place to help you and its their job to at least guide you to the info you need. Thats the beauty of this. Even if you are brand new its not hard to get someone to a live call to get answers or 3way them with a director above you to get the resources you need.
Take responsibility yourself but as a director lets help people achieve the success they desired when they paid for their package.
When I ljoined Coastal with the CSG I was told that all of us need each of us but unfortunately for many that is just rhetoric.
Adam
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