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# Posted: 31 May 2007 11:26
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First of all, Welcome to the Work At Home Forum!
Normally this section of the forum is a great place to discuss the different aspects and learn about the different teams of Coastal Vacations such as the WeCloseYourSales Call center, CSG, CWB, and a couple of others that are represented here but if you have been reading all of these threads lately you would think that Coastal Vacations is a big confused mess.
WELL, it's NOT a big confused mess. It is a WONDERFUL company that is making thousands of it's members 5, 6 and 7 figure incomes in VERY short amounts of time. It works and it's a legitimate company that has been around for over 13 years. The value of the package is continuing to grow on a yearly basis. So, rest assured that you will be in a solid and growing organization and you can make TONS of money if you are a dedicated and serious person.
We Coastal members on this forum have been discussing, in a not to civil fashion sometimes, new additions to the Coastal package and it might seem strange that we would be argung about this. Just like any other business, information travels in many different ways and this involves another company that is apparently going to work with Coastal and an announcemtent will be made at our next conference in June. The company that is going to be working with us is Funtime Vacations which already provides some vacations for the Coastal package but now have started their own biz-op and they decided that it was OK to talk about this before Coastal members got the word from our conference and thus the confusion.
PLEASE do not take this a normal within Coastal Vacations because it is not. Most of the time we are all very helpful and complimentary of eachother's groups. I am with the Call Center and we have a great program and training system that teaches you how to market so you are not makeing a bunch of cold calls to leads. There are several members of other Coastal groups represented here on this forum that have great systems that are also good systems and I'm sure they will post their systems in here and that is what this forum is for.
I think I speak for all of our different groups when I say that Coastal Vacations is the common bond between us and that is what you need to focus on.
As far as Funtime goes, it is a tool that will be added to the Coastal pakage. You can choose to use it or not just like other tools there. Do not let Funtime overshadow Coastal because Coastal is the main business that will make you the HUGE commissions and Funtime is just another tool that will be available if you want to use it.
I hope that this Coastal Vacations section will go back to being a Coastal oriented area and mabe Vishal could make an area for Funtimers who have chosen to do funtime as their main business so they can have a place to chat if they want to focus on just Funtime.
Don't forget, Coastal Vacations pays at least $1,000 per sale and that, along with our training, is what sets us apart from everyone else.
Members of this forum, please let us go back to the helpful and informative attitude we had before all of this Funtime stuff started.
Thanks,
Harold Simpson
Level 2 Director
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 12:23
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I couldn't agree more!
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 15:49
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I totally agree
good thread
cheers
maria porter
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 18:33
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This was a great post Harold! You are so right! Except you forgot to mention the Coastal Families Worldwide team  ! Just kidding! To anyone looking at Coastal, this is a great opportunity so listen to Harold and know that this is not the norm for Coastal and every team helps everyone else. This is truly a great group of individuals, all with the same goals, helping others achieve their goals, at the same time!
To everyone's success!
Nikki Carter
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 20:09
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Sorry, Nikki. There are so many to remember.
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Harold,
Very nice summary.
Here is a brief introduction to Coastal/ CB-United group.
Coastal/CB-United still best for newcomers. I may proudly say that in CB-UNITED we have taken out all of the bugs of Marketing. I believe that's what has allowed so many people join our successful team lately. The path TO those sales requires the following:
1. The Right Tools
2. Top Leads (supplied for FREE until you became L3)
3. Personal Support and Education
4. Full Automation
5. Combined Effort
6. Combined Experience
Coastal is about making huge commissions, NEVER lower
than $1000 and $3000 per sale.
Your cost...???...for all aboves is $19.95/month...
Naturally if you want to grow your business faster you can. We can provide you with extra, quality leads.
Well any question just PM.
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Edit K.
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2007 13:12
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Good post. At the present time as a CSG member I am using the CSG MAC system but having some problems with it. They range from minor issues to ones of a more major concern to me. As we are all Coastal I figured this is the right forum to talk about these issues. You cant go wrong with a great Travel packages and commissions from $1000 -$9705. So id love to have a discussion about the various systems we all use. I hope to make this about back office support and training as opposed to how to run your business. By this I mean im not trying to choose between a group like say Call Center vs Wealthbuilders vs WCYS vs CSG but rather which back office is the best when factoring in ease of use, what it can do and of course price and affiliates commissions. Thanks for making this forum a useful tool in building my team.
Adam
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 00:37
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Harold - Very well written and thought out post. I agree we should focus more on what Coastal has to offer then other business related politics.
In relations to groups and back offices, I have to support the WCYS Call Center as they have a tremendous amount of support and training available in there back office. And not to mention a Call Center to close your sales for you!
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 15:54
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Hello OnlineMoney
I have used WCYS for over 2 yrs, but I still close over 90% of all sales myself....
plus anyone that joins with me can join the call center at any time for the call center fees, so this way they can honestly have a good run of it on their own, and use the call center as a back up if they need to.
So even if you join a call center, do not think you can not make sales outside of the call center.
Most people I speak to have the time and talents to close on their own....it really is not that difficult.
However the call center of course serves a great void for those who really need and think they need that independent 3rd party verification and closing.
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maria Porter
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I am very new to this (although I thought I would have made some sales from the 2 million e-mail blasts my director did twice for me). I am with WCYS which I am guessing is also called the call centre here (sorry, I'm Canadian so some of my spelling might be different).
Anyways, the one thing I am finding is when talking to my friends about my new venture they go to my website and realize that they can't find out more info without inputting their e-mails as very little is actually said on the cover page I have chosen.
Is there some way to give them more info before they input their e-mail as maybe that is why my blasts were not more effective?
My director uses another group called vacationpower as well which she has their movie play before the WCYS info.
Has anyone else had success with that? Their are so many scams around that people are leery about putting in their e-mails. (Out of the 5 people who did input their e-mail out of 4 million blasts, 2 of their e-mails were not working!)Obviously they are scared about what is going to happen.
Although I had no trouble inputting mine -I guess not everybody is that brave.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Secondly, when you put in your ad in a newspaper for example do you usually add your website under the phone number or do people have better luck if they just call the call centre?
Thanks so much everyone for any input.
Judy
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 16:00
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Hi Maria,
I guess we were posting at the same time!
Are you saying that if someone just wants the package without paying for the call centre they can do that and you will still collect commission?
How do you sell it if you purchased yours through WCYS?
Then, they can join the call centre at any time and just pay the difference?
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 18:30
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Whether the prospect wants Coastal as a business or to buy it retail having a ecommerce website is probably one's best choice to have besides the website that you get with WCYS call center.
That way the prospect can later choose to add the call center and yes than just pay the additional money to join.
And now we that are with the call center can also offer the entry level option for just $795. It really is a good deal in itself.
With Coastal there are so many different options, it really makes for an excellent business.
Can people get the $1295 or $1995 if need be? Depends how bad they want the business when I was first told that people can afford something if they really want it I questioned that myself till I had a good example of that today.
My evaporater coil burst but we NEED our air conditioner, plus it made water flow into our home , the AC man calmly said, that will be $1400, guess what we had to and did come up with
the $1400.
Terri
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 19:06
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Judy,
The good news is that of the people who put thier information in to your opt in page are serious about this opportunity. They probably have been looking around and are willing to step up and give their name. But for those who do not want to do that, I would send them to the wecloseyoursales home page. It shows the opportunity and back office as well as explain the travel packages.
When you do your classifieds, I would include the start up cost and the number of the call center primarily, then the website address if you can. The call center says they get plenty of sales this way.
Have you tried PPC advertising? You can really target your market that way.
It is possible to market the opportunity without the call center and you can receive commissions for a sign up and they can receive their package. However, I would recommend including the call center with this opportunity right from the beginning. That way, all options are available. If a prospect is interested in doing this opportunity without the call center, they can get websites from COA which are the official Coastal sites. Totally doable. Many options available.
Noreen
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 21:14
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Id like to thank Noreen for her email and her showing me the WCYS demo back office. It is a very affordable option for those that want to have their calls made. I did like the functionality of the site and if I was in the need of a call center option Noreen you would be the winner. As time goes on and more of my team members thats are going to be leaving the CSG make a new decision on websites that info will be very helpful. As for Judy and her questions about people being skeptical I always say this...Its good to be skeptical but does that skepticism mean you wont check out the facts? I have seen the COA Network movie site, The CWB site as well as having used the CSG system. They all are well thought out. In your shoes being you already have your WCYS back office id get whichever one you like the movie most on and is the least expensive. Just my 2 cents.
Hey guys I was going to start a new thread but figured id jjst put it in here. Im looking to start a new Coastal Vacations Biz opt line. This line would be open to all the groups in Coastal. As the host my job would be to promote Coastal as a whole to all our prospects and let members of this forum come in and promote their group as a special guest. Im looking to do it with the guys from here and would love to hear back from any of you interested. I do have a rather large database of Coastal people in different organizations ive met over the last two years but would really like to start somethign from this forum. So get back to me asap for details or to give some ideas.
Adam
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 21:40
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Hi Judy,
I am with WCYS also and I do want to clarify one thing. Make sure you understand that your prospects know that you are giving up your commission if they choose to join the call center later because they are already a member of your personal team. The call center will have to be alerted to that because they will think that they are coming to the call center from another team and they will expect them to pay the commission again.
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2007 13:48
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Hello all,
Harold, it it a great post - I haven't been posting much because it hasn't been a great forum to come to lately....but that should change!
We are all very helpful and proud of our groups and together our package - if they add, all the better!!
Lindsay
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2007 16:59 · Edited by: goldmills
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Judy,
The reason you are not getting a lot of opt ins on your WCYS is because you are email blasting 2 million worthless leads who never check their emails cause they get blasted everyday with spam.
SPAM simply does not work.
Ask yourself this question.
"What is the most I can do, with the time that I have to be the most efficient and effective in talking to or directly building a relationship with a new client, and getting in front of as many people as possible?"
Then once you answer that question, be an implementor.
It might be buying leads
it might be placing ads online
it might be placing ads offline
it might be PPC
it might be using chat rooms and forums
Only you will know the best type of advertising to work for your personality.
There is no such thing as a duplicatable system where everyone will have success with it... REMEMBER THAT PEOPLE.
Not everyone who joins WCYS will make money
not everyone who joins CSG will make money
not everyone who joins DFI will make money
not everyone who joins CWB will make money
You have to find and DELEGATE the right advertising technique that
works for you personally, or you'll never make money.
This is why WCYS teaches multiple methods, instead of just the tried and true buy leads method.
I get countless emails a day from CSG'ers and CWB'ers who are deep in debt from $250 website fees and $4000 in leads with no results.
In my mind they systems are fine, but the methods are flawed becaue they don't match up to a person's marketing blueprint, which in internally coded inside each person.
So, make sure, before you spend ANY $$$ you know what it is you are spending money on, and know if it is gonna get you the most prospects to speak with, who are the most $$ qualified.
Some will figure this out with trial and error - long hard, expensive road.
Some will find mentors to help them navigate the confusing marketing world and go around the shortcuts and find immediate success.
While others will just look a their options and keep playing with "what if" senarios and never put their foot in the water, cause of fear.
COPY what your director is doing first, see if it matches your blueprint and budget, if not, explore other methods to get infront of as many people as possible.
Marketing is an endless, nonstop machine.
Jeff
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2007 23:15
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Jeff,
Thanks for great advice and so true....
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# Posted: 5 Jun 2007 00:22
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Jeff,
Thanks for the great advice. I am really not sure how to get started. My director made most of her sales from e-mail blasts but she admitted herself they have not been working lately. That is all she is willing to do for me other than to give me free websites to post on.
You seem like a very successful man and I do want to surround myself with successful people and hope their knowledge rubs off on me. I have a very limited budget (at least until I get my first 3 sales) when I'll have a little money to play with.
All of the methods you suggested cost money other than chat rooms and forums. I'm just not sure where I should spend the limited budget I have.
I tried posting on these free classifieds we have in Canada but they got removed because this is a money making opportunity requiring an upfront fee (and I was so excited I had my post out there)
I have been told by my director that ppc ads can be very pricey and you have to really watch out if they have your credit card. I read today about a rich guy who is selling info on how to place ads for free on major search engines but he wants me to pay $67 for the info! -why, he's rich anyways which makes me think it is a scam.
I don't understand how you buy leads. Where do these people come from? If someone can enlighten me or a site I might find these leads at I would really appreciate it.
Can these leads be hooked into the WCYS auto responders or do you have to call them yourself. I paid $1000 extra so that I would not have to talk to anyone with my limited knowledge being such a newbie
Thanks everyone
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# Posted: 5 Jun 2007 12:28
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Hi Judy,
To answer your question about buying leads:
There are a number of resources out there, and Coastal officially approves the lead vendor CEM, though I personally haven't had much success with that particular vendor. I can send you some links if you like, but I don't know if you can use purchased leads with WCYS?
I know that I can with the Coastal Closers, because most of their calls are outbound and we enter the leads into the back office ourselves if they are not a Closer's specific form fill.
Maybe Harold or one of the other WCYS members can tell you if you are able to buy and input leads for your call center? Even if you can't, though, you will be able to add them to the WCYS auto responder campaign and try to get people to call in that way.
Tonya Kopp
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Coastal Vacations
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# Posted: 5 Jun 2007 14:01
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Hi Judy,
You must look around, search the internet and find something that works for you - something that you like to do....
As Tonya mentioned above, there are lots of places you can purchase leads from like CEM and their site is coastalleads1'dot'com, or some others include Responsive Data, mlmleads'dot'com, mlmleadgenie'dot'com, and their are many others...do your homework and don't spend too much on a lead....I was spending about $5/lead, now I only spend about $2-$3 per lead. These people will answer ads on places like monster, and career builder, and lots of other places about home businesses or coastal, and you will be sent their information....
You could try some other advertising methods that are pretty cheap like flyers, or classifieds (I find you will get a better response here if you use a local number instead of a 1-800)
What you don't have in money, you must be willing to make up in time...spend some time on forums and learn how others are marketing their business - and not only coastal....look around and learn!
Working on a budget is a good thing, and if someone wants you to pay for information go buy a book - you can't get ripped off with a book....that's how I see it anyway! Do your research, and set your budget - time and money, and work around that....then word of mouth - start telling people about this great package!
And as for advertising in the classifieds (free ones in canada) you can advertise the package retail because it isn't a money making deal, just a travel package!
Also use your package to advertise! Give away your vacations, tell people about the great deals, learn other peoples stories and share them with your prospects!
Hope this helps, can't wait to hear about your success!
Lindsay
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# Posted: 5 Jun 2007 18:12
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Hello Judy
email blasting does not work unless you really know what you are doing and you have purchased a responsive lead list from the onset.
I know people who have successfully worked many programs with responsible and responsive email marketing but they use surveyed leads.
Generally Iwould keep away from friends and family and fliers, they can be exhausting and you will gain little result.
I would concentrate on online advertising using social networking techniques and some paid advertising, I like ezine advertising, but I agree PPC can be very expensive if you do not know what you are doing.
Thank you for your call today, I will call you tomorrow early pm
You will find details of different advertising techniques on my website.
cheers
maria
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2007 00:34
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Thanks for all the great info everyone. I am so psyched about this new opportunity!
If someone else is with WCYS can we input leads e-mails into our autoresponders? I know it said they would not call them unless they called in first but I really don't have the time to call them to qualify them and would rather have the auto responders do the work through e-mail info (that's how I joined).
Thanks for letting me know how to list on the free ad site, however because I am working with WCYS how can they buy the packages for travel without the bus. opportunity (paying the extra money for the call centre). Would I need to get hooked up to another coastal site as well?
Maria, you have so much info on your websites it could take me days to get through it all -it is nicely laid out though and easy to navigate -are any of the things in your website reproducible for someone way up here in Ontario?
Also, you had mentioned e-zine advertising. Do you need to write your own info that people would subscribe to or do you just get info from one of the Coastal sites that you can let people read? Not quite sure how that works.
Thanks everybody -I am soooo glad I found this forum -to surround myself with success, how can I fail?
Judy
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2007 00:41
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Hello Judy
as far as leads are concerned
you can not place just willy nilly leads into your system (via the front page) that will be classified as spamming
spamming is sending anyone an email they have not requested.
As far as ezines are concerned....these are electronic publications that people subscribe to...so you can send out your ad to a captive audience spam free. I am not sure of the rest of your question, but you will need to have some ad copy for the ads, ask your director for the ads he/she has been using.
ezinemistress dot com has some excellent prices
yes everything on my website can be used by anyone anywhere in the world
hope this helps
maria
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Hey Judy,
I have solved my lead problem with Coastal very inexpensively and easily in the past few months. On tuesday June 12 @ 1pm est Al Romine the owner of Coastal Vacations will be on a call with his new partner Fun Time Vacations. That number is 402 756 9000 pincode 1025286# He will be talking about the new lead generation program available to Coastal Distributors. I now get 40,000 leads a month for $300. Also as I have new members join and do the same I make $100. So after 3 people I now have my leads for free and after that I make a residual income. Now I want to touch upon something that Jeff said earlier. Jeff has a large organization and has done well with various advertising methods. That is smart. Never put all of your eggs in one basket. Use all the tools out there. Give away vacatiosn to advertise. Place free and paid classifieds. I have many team mates in Canada and they have had some of the same issue you had with classifieds in Canada but heck the internet is called the "WORLD" wide web. So look at it that way. Place ads everywhere. Most of my team mates are not from my state and I didnt even meet them in person until we attended an event. So you can sponsor anyone from anywhere.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 17:49
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Hello Adam
that is great that you have all those leads per month, which service are you using to email the leads?
Many marketers on the internet are not trained in sending 40K leads every month and are worried about spamming and rightly so.
You can purchase leads from axis leads dot com 250K for $300, but unless you have a good emailing system and you know what you are doing, it would not be the way I would recommend marketing.
They say that the money is in the list, but it has to be a good and responsive list.
I am not trying to dampen your enthusiasm Adam, but personally these bulk autoresponder leads would not be the way I would go.
cheers
maria
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 18:14
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Im sorry Maria I forgot to mention that the system comes with an auto-responder that automates the process for me. In addition their is a campaign system I can use in anyway I want. Say I have special I am advertising or maybe im doing a fundraiser and want to let people know the details, I can use the system to handle that. Now I know it sounds maybe a bit overwhelming but I would be more than willing to invite anyone to the opportunity call where all questions can be answered. I am actually Co-hosting that call this coming Thursday.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 18:18
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Hiya Adam
have you had any spam complaints?
How many optins do you get to your main marketing site with one email mailing (assuming it's 40K)?
cheers
maria
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 18:34
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I havent received one spam complaint as all the leads are biz opt seekers leads to start from. They are expecting to to emailed. I also get from 15 -25 opt ins a day. Thats has been great. 15 people waiting for info a day is great. When I saw this I started a few other campaigns with my coastal and inteletravel businesses as well. So now I have more people than I can handle that are opting in. Now I run my business differently than most. I offer 3 opportunities to anyone I talk to. The three are in travel and when I get them on the phone from our conversation I can see what might fit what they are looking for. I even offer them a free membership to my travel club. I offer a free newsletter where I market specials and access to my travel inventory. They get complimentary trips for referring others to my websites as well. It creates a nice buzz. Now for many of you guys that might be too much to do but again 15-25 opt -ins a day is real good. The system can also direct the leads to your presentation site if you have one. I used to pay 5-7 dollars for a movie lead. Here I have 40000 leads I can direct to my movie site. Now all arent going to go through the steps but if even 5% do thats a ton of movie leads to get for $300 a month. Its working well for me. Even better the residual is ever growing. I have a team of 31 in my first few months. My residual is getting close to the amount of a premier sale. Thats pretty awesome for a leads expense. Hope that helps.
Adam
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 18:42
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Hello Adam
that is great
I know that everyone is different, but the times I have strayed away from coastal, and promoted any other business, my coastal business has suffered.
Good that you are abe to do 3 businesses at once.
I prefer to do one thing and do it well...esp as I have a lot of members to look after.
maria
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