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griffiths
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 19:58
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I recieved a cashier's check yesterday for a L1 package but the check was for $3,000.00 I was told to deduct my price from the check and then wire the rest via western union to a "michael clinton" of Fairplay shipping co. ltd. ( based in the uk). He was very persistant about me "hurrying" to send the remaining money. I assumed that It was a scam but went to my credit union to veryify if the funds were legit. sure enough It was a bogeous check. If I were to have gone through with the transaction before checking if the funds were legit, I would have lost a few thousand dollars to this scam! What I learned from this...
1. never accept more than is negotiated for the package price
2. always verify that the funds are legit before sending the package. (just having the check is not good enough)
3. never agree to pay an overage via western union
bottom line, dont do anything until you have hard cold cash in your hands, or funds cleared into your checking account!
If you think someone is trying to scam you, they probably are!! (I felt unsure about the deal from the first, and I was right!)
Dont to business with anyone wanting to buy a package with the name/email address of:
gbodo kolo ([email protected])
or with Michale clinton of fairplay shipping co. ltd.
Good luck and success!!
Brandon Griffiths
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 20:59
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Thanks for the heads up!
Bet he changes his name and email address often once someone gets wise to him.
Unbeleivable!
Terri
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CoastalToday
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 22:14
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Ah, the old Nigerian scam once again!
You know, if people like that would ever use their cleverness to actually HELP people, the world would be a much better place.
Live and learn...
Thanks for the warning!
Tonya
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susaneng
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 23:12
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Brandon,
It is a good thing you made sure the check was legitimate. I just saw an episode on Oprah where a person got scammed by the Nigerian scam people. She even checked with her bank to see if the check was legitimate which the bank said it was, but the funds never cleared and so she was stuck with paying back the money. You are so right about warning everyone to wait until the check clears before they send out the package.
Thank you for the heads up!
Susan
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matiasmommy
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 23:25
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Oh Dear Brandon...
I'm so sorry to hear you had that learning experience.. thank goodness it wound up alright!
Thanks for making others aware.. I personally was trained and teach my team to NEVER ship until funds are CLEARED through to their account. Its worth the few days.. people still get their packages in under 10 days.
Better safe then really sorry.. I would think something like that- you might want to consider alerting the police? Those nasty guys ought to be hunted down.
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Jani Teeter
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Viajero Latino
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# Posted: 16 May 2007 17:12
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Wow these Nigerian scamers just dont quit!
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griffiths
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# Posted: 16 May 2007 20:42
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I have thought about notifying the police but is there much that they can / are willing to do? I would love to get these scum bags off the streets and help prevent someone from getting hurt, but how much effort do the athorities really put into these kind of things? This guy is offshores, so I would imagine that it would be pretty hard to track him down! I might just print out all of our email conversations and drop that off with the fake check and mailing envelope to the police and see what they could do 
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# Posted: 16 May 2007 21:49
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Hiya
great piece of info.
If you are accepting personal checks, make sure they clear before you mail the packages. (Better still cash them at the issuing bank).
I have had only one check bounce in almost 6 yrs, but It can happen.
Cheers
Maria
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goldmills
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# Posted: 17 May 2007 22:07
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get the FBI involved they can do some forensics and tests, tracking, etc.... they know how to capture these scammers.
I just added this post to my blog to warn people too.
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Viajero Latino
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 22:15
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When it comes to international scammers theres not much the FBI can do
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goldmills
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 22:17
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But when their stuff enters into the USA then it's their jurisdiction.
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 22:29
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I think it depends on the total $ amount scammed
it has to be of a certain amount, otherwise I think it is not worth their time.
I had an issue with an off shore scam and nothing was ever done
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maria
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 22:50 � Edited by: Viajero Latino
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Fortunatly for our nation and unfortunatly for the people who got scammed FBI main focus is on Homeland security.
I know its kinda messed up but they actually admit this in an NBC special that was about the 417 scams (Nigerian).
Thats why I always do at least 1 week of research of anything I do online before I give out my info.
Be Carefull Folks they out there to get your money! Not just the Nigerian scammers
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ibizniz
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 23:12
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I agree
the Nigerian scam has moved to German millionaires wanting to give me money, to my inheriting huge amounts from my Italian relatives I never knew I had to winning the British Lotto.
It is easy to fall for any of the Nigerian versions, if it is your first exposure.
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maria
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# Posted: 18 May 2007 23:59
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LOL same here Maria and i always thought i had no rich relatives...lol
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ibizniz
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# Posted: 19 May 2007 00:30
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My PT friend
well there you go, they all found you on the internet!
cheers
maria
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# Posted: 19 May 2007 15:48
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I'm glad I'm not the only one with uber rich relations that passed on leaving money in the bank with no name on it!
Do these guys really think North Americans are THAT stupid?
Then again, I suppose some people let greed get the better of them!
Just stay alert- any thing that sounds too good to be true- ususally is! Treat it like Coastal.. if you CAN'T find the hole in the boat- look harder and then commit based on your gut when you know its really 2 thumbs up!
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Jani Teeter
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griffiths
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# Posted: 21 May 2007 00:06
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I just read an article in the june edition of readers digest that hits the nail right on the head! It is about how the nigerian scammers are out in full force right now! Just be careful!
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# Posted: 22 May 2007 11:10
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Yeah I have experience with the Nigerian scammers as well. But I knew about the scam so when it was brought to my attention I was able to brush it off. I also got a letter in the mail about six months ago from Spain, stating that I had some large six figure amount waiting to be deposited into my account. I called the number on the letter and all they kept pushing for was my banking information without really explaining why I was getting the money. The one thing I couldn't figure out was how they got my mailing address.
So everyone beware, these people will try to get any money they can out of you.
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# Posted: 6 Jun 2007 19:19
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Yep! Alot of Coastal Directors have been taken for this scam.
Jay NaPier
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goldmills
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 17:47
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Funny and Sad....
I recently talked to a prospect who was dead serious, got an email, said he won the UK lottery and would join as soon as their check hit....
Poor man... I tried to warn him... doesn't believe me.
If it's too good to be true... then you know...
and.... all these email scams out there... people in the real world dont do business this way... with blanket emails, trying to rope people in their nets.
Dateline and News shows always expose these hucksters in the end.
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ibizniz
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# Posted: 9 Jun 2007 17:58
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Hiya
not sure if you have received a letter from one of those pesky Nigerian scammers?
http://www.snopes.com/crime/fraud/nigeria.asp
and for the lottery winners amongst us, replace nigeria with lottery
in the url above to see if you recognize the letter contents.
hope this helps
maria
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