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richt71
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 10:26
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Hi,
As I can't get any response from my director I thought I'd ask here - I have a guy that wants to buy 5 of 1 &2 level packages. I'm only a level 1 director so can't say I can give discount on the level 2 part. Is it normal for this to happen?? 
Rich
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CoastalToday
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 11:08
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Hi Rich,
Is he asking you for a discount, or are you offering?
Really, it's up to you if you want to give a slight discount to insure the sale, but since your Director isn't answering you about the Level 2 package then you probably won't be able to give a reduced price on that package.
Do you know why he wants to buy in bulk? If it is because he is a business owner, and there is a possibility of future business with him then I personally would approach it by telling him that you are willing to offer a 20% corporate discount on purchases of 5 or more, but not less than that...
Hope this helps,
Tonya
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richt71
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 14:22
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Hi Tonya,
Thanks for your reply. Apparently he organises corporate vacations/conferences for large US corporations so is after multiples. I agree I'm kind of stuck unless I get the nod from my director but it's been nearly a week since I called him and left a voicemail plus I emailed him. Oh well.
Thanks again
Rich
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 14:46
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You've got to be kidding! A potential sale like that and you haven't heard from your Director in a week?!
Amazing...
Btw, good luck, and great job!
Tonya
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richt71
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 15:06
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Quoting: CoastalToday You've got to be kidding! A potential sale like that and you haven't heard from your Director in a week?! Amazing... Btw, good luck, and great job! Tonya
I know Tonya but my director seems to have made his money and no longer bothers. I found that out as I emailed him with a question recently and to advise the group website was down. He came back to me about the website but I'm still waiting for my question answering 3 weeks later.
Nevermind I keep going.
Thanks again
Rich
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 15:19
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What was your question, maybe I or someone else on the forum knows the answer?
Tonya
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 16:36
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I echo that, Rich, unbelievable.....if it's alright with you I'll 'pm' you.
Roger
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richt71
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# Posted: 12 May 2007 18:41
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can't remember now tonya...i'll check but my question is on my pc not my laptop i'm replying on now and i'm not at home with the pc. If I find it after the weekend...I'll post it...thanks again! 
Roger...yes of course you can pm me.
rich
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# Posted: 13 May 2007 20:30
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WOW! I'm so very sorry to hear from those of you whose directors seem less then interested or ethical.
I do know that you can get a discount on bulk orders from the shipping centre itself.. check your release for details. Tonya is absolutely correct, in business it is common to give discounts for bulk orders. Sorry to hear you are stuck a bit! I can order them for you if you can't get in touch with your second upline. Maybe if you don't already know who that is you should write to the ship centre and have their information on hand for future. I'd say get your L2 release out of this shennanigans right NOW, and walk away with what $11400 for your time and frustration. Again, if you can't get hold of your 2nd, I can do that for you.
Of course.. I don't know WHY on earth your director wouldn't get back to you straight away- 5 L2 sales in one bang for doing nada save answering a 2 mintue question with yes or no??
What is s/he dead??
I don't know if that helps.. but I hope it has!
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Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 14 May 2007 13:50
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Hi Rich,
Sorry to hear about your challenge. It should never be a challenge to get ahold of your directors. Even as they travel you should be able to reach them withing a reasonable amount of time.
Being a top Coastal directors I take alot of calls with various question...my best advice to you is to offer 1 complimentary membership with a purchase of 5. BUT...here's the thing.
5 Memberships at $3995 = $19,975
3 Memberships at $3995 = $11,985
The 2 sales equals over $6000 in profits.
Most of the time, when I get questions like this it's from someone who'd just kicking tires....be sure you come back to let us know what happened. If you'd like to speak with me you can reach me at 615.573.2536
Jay NaPier
Level 3 Director/ Master Trainer
Coastal Vacations
P.S. - Notice you earn $3200 on Level 2 sales. Some have chosen to give up profits hoping a call center is the answer....Good Luck!
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# Posted: 14 May 2007 19:07
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Hang on.. am I wrong? This is 5 L1 and 5 premiers? He will take $5000 for the L1s as he is already qualified.. then he will pass up 2 of the 5 level 2 as training sales plus his upgrade fee.
My math stinks but... The upgrade is $3500 and the 2 pass ups are $3200. (then again, if I were his director I would skip the upgrade fee for something like this). SO, that makes his profit
$5000 for level 1's
$6100 for premiers ($3200 x3 -3500)
That is $11,100 for ONE transaction. WOWEE! GREAT WORK!
I hear you though.. I wish call centre people luck, I certainly don't want to be giving up all that money to a telemarketer when most of the successful people their call clients anyhow. Marketing is much more difficult then picking up the phone, especially when you then add the complication of hiring an appointment maker to do it for you and are then passing down part of whatever profits you manage to make as that person's commission. Not to mention how confusing it all must be for the prospects!
We close your sales.. you don't have to call- but someone will for you- if you hire and pay them- and then you end up calling them anyway. I'd hate to see the potential problems there- its having an employee. Not my bag at all, I don't see the time savings in it. Not to mention, everyone is in competition for the same advertising and marketing resources. Internet marketing is an art and a science, to do it well and get a decent ROI- it takes time, money and lots of research. I know, because I have chosen to add that to my skillset right now. Meanwhile, everyone knows how to pick up the phone. More people do it then we realize- often even on the job. We aren't sales people, we don't "ask" people for money, I for one do NOT process payments- my website does. So I don't see the benefit.
Giving up way too much money at both ends, IMHO- let alone time investment. I'm all for keeping life simple and easy, and I am happy to be responsible soley for my own business. But it seems to work GREAT for some people! I'm happy to see people join the call centre- as long as they are in Coastal. They obviously don't have the qualities that I am looking for in successful future associates, so I couldn't have helped them anyhow. So I just hope they made the right decision, have a lot of fun and make LOTS and LOTS of money and get to take great vacations!
Cheers
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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# Posted: 14 May 2007 22:32
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You guys are right. The call center isn't for everyone. It's mainly for people who want to make the most of their time and Coastal business by spending more of their time training new members then talking on the phone to prospects who may or may not be qualified for the business.
It's also for people who might be working a fulltime job right now and don't have the time to talk to prospects during the day and also for people who might not speak english very well.
Oh, and definitely for people who aren't comfortable speaking with people about the business because they don't consider themselves the best conversationalists in the world. Those are just a few people who benefit from the call center.
The cool thing is they benefit from it IMMEDIATELY after they join. No learning curve on practicing how to talk to someone about a brand new business they aren't very familiar with. I sure am glad I joined the call center because they closed my first 5 sales without me even talking to them. Now that I am confident in my knowledge of the business and marketing techniques I like to talk to people when they want to talk to me.
One other great thing about the call center is being able to offer it to everyday people who want to work from home so they can take care of their family and still make money because the call center is taking those calls for them. AND, if they join the call center first, they can offer more options to their prospects because, if you want to do so, you can work the business with or without the call center!
We've got the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS!!
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 09:02
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To add to Harold's post we should also mention our Entry Level Program again, something no other Coastal group has. It makes it even more appealing to those who are serious about the opportunity but can't quite step into Level 1 or Level 2 right now.
The reality is the Call Center works better for most people which is why we are continually challenged by other groups but you gotta love free enterprise!
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 09:59
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Quoting: roger something no other Coastal group has.
Actually.. CSG has had something similar since before Christmas.
Quoting: roger The reality is the Call Center works better for most people
Really? I would really like to see some figures to back up that statement. From the numbers I've looked at.. the numbers accross coastal re: chance of success are the same. Regardless of group.
I personally think it is important for people to analyze things very closely and really know what it is they are getting involved in. No group or system has "the magic answer".
Most people start this business while working full time, many people in my group do NOT speak english as a first language (anyone heard of Priska King??), the great majority of people are looking for a business in the first place to make money as they don't have enough of it- and still have found success. I feel that there is absolutely NO barrier to a persons success that they do not instill there themselves. Bottom line, if you WANT something you can HAVE it. Its also not "easy" to find success, otherwise everyone would BE successful. All the systems are simple and workable, with pro's and con's- any system created by humankind is, by nature- imperfect. Which is why its important to continually strive for innovation and improvement. As a prospect, I was looking for a place for myself in this business that would set me on equal footing with equal opportunity- from the get go. What I chose, having no marketing experience at all- did exactly that for me. Which is why I feel I made the very best decision for ME.
I too, have the best of both worlds.. I am now learning the marketing arm of things. That is the beauty of this business- no matter where you land. We are in business for ourselves, but never by ourselves. There are systems in place, built and time proven by those before us that have found success.
Just my .02
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 10:23
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I'm glad you asked that Jani because we all know, generally speaking, people will choose the path of least resistance, a fact in human behaviour. Where the Sales Center is concerned having sales professionals explain the business for you presents an attractive business model for many prospects seeking the Coastal opportunity.
While there is no such thing as a hands-free business, it doesn't hurt when you have a team of professionals standing beside you at the ready.
Quoting: matiasmommy I personally think it is important for people to analyze things very closely and really know what it is they are getting involved in. No group or system has "the magic answer
Well said although I still think the Call Center is a much better business model than what other groups offer but I do agree with you, that's my 2 cents.
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 11:04
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Jani,
Can you get into detail about the entry level program that CSG offers. The WCYS entry level program is not a coastal product and not just a payment plan or join for free type system. Our ELP is a completely separate product that is a way for people to get into the call center family and learn the system while they enjoy the specially designed travel package that has GREAT benefits with online booking for everything involved which means no mailing vouchers. This package was designed exclusively for the call center and will make our team competitive with other travel companies who have online booking. Can you get more specific about how your entry level program works? Is it a completely different package or is it a payment plan to come in at level 1?
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 11:15
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My point being, that I am in the people industry and NOT the sales industry.
I have difficulty with the idea of myself or anyone else trying to convince anyone to start a business and that is what sales is about. To me, the information speaks for itself- my role is to help people get their questions answered, and there is both an on and offline system that is professionally designed and managed in place for me.
I think that getting questions answered by people who are IN the business, and can therefore speak from personal experience is invaluable. There is very much an advantage in Coastal with having a team of professionals behind you. BOD, your group, your director. We are in buisness for ourselves, but never by ourselves. Its the very best of free enterprise!
I'm glad that you are happy where you are at. I see the flaws with it, that for me- would have made my path much MORE difficult. I'm not at all a marketing expert-9 months into my business I've got the time, energy and backing to now put into it! It is much harder to get people to call a call centre (they won't do an initial outbound call, no?), and my understanding is they have to be money qualified first. I know that there are many people on my team who actually NEEDED to meet me, I called them after they had requested information. They needed to know I am a real person, not someone hiding behind a website. They needed to know that my purpose- as yours- in this business is to help them. They requested information about starting a business because there IS some problem somewhere.
I prefer having my system provide them with information, that is clearly detailed about EXACTLY what is involved and what they will do. I enjoy speaking with people that I may choose to work with and answering their questions, most often by pointing them to system resources, and telling them of my personal experience- it gives them first hand experience and proof that they CAN do it too. I don't WANT someone else to select my team members for me, and the last thing I want is a telemarketer that is money motivated and not long term helping people orientated to be handling first contact or completing a sale.
I like the fact that I am in business for myself, that I can be flexible with people and really get solutions that work for THEM. They can walk through the system in place and see exactly who, how, what is involved from the get go. There is no surprised when they get into the business. They can prove for and to themselves that if this is right for them- they can duplicate EXACTLY what I have done to be successful in my buisness.
Its one thing to have a system- its another thing all together to be on equal footing regardless of experience- and the key to that- I have found is duplicablility. That is the number one strength, I think- of my system.
Choosing the path of least resistance- you are RIGHT that is human instinct. The path of least resistance, however is all about perception. The reality, in my experience is that smart marketing is just that- and is not an easy skill to learn and do well. Its also NOT something that takes very little time to learn, do, and maintain. IF you are wanting to be top of the pile, and earn a six figure income anyhow.
I did ask the question, but I don't see the answer?
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 11:24
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Jani,
we all have the attitude that we are helping people but you need to be honest with yourself and your members and let them know that we have to make sales or we don't make money. You can call it whatever you want but the bottom line is we MUST make sales.
Can you please tell us about your entry level program you mentioned?
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 12:08
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Hello Everyone,
Jani and Harold, you both make strong points about methods available to the Coastal business. And Coastal really is about the choices that it gives people. That is one of the reasons that finding a Director who is a "match" is so important - so that your personalities and ideas work together to create a strong support structure!
Working with a Closing Center is great - though when I first started, I had some struggles - all fixed now But I also promote Coastal in the traditional way as well, because it's good to be able to offer options and some people prefer to work one-on-one. That is in addition to selling B2B. In fact, I think that everyone here will agree that it is truly amazing how many ways Coastal can be promoted! There really is something for everyone, especially if you're creative.
My 4 cents on the entry level option (and you'll probably recognize this from the official Coastal literature): it really is best for new associates to join at the highest level possible. Not only do you save money if you come in at Premier or higher and have the advantage of the package, but you are then fully invested in making your business work. That really is important!
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 12:52
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Every Coastal group has their own systems in place. And in every Coastal group there are people that are very successful by following those systems. Every group and it's system has pros and cons, you just have to do the research and figure out which system/group is best for you.
Quoting: hsimpsonjr You can call it whatever you want but the bottom line is we MUST make sales.
Yes Harold, no sales=no profit. And every group has some sort of system in place to get new members trained and headed in the right direction. It is up to the individual to make it happen.
So let's all stop debating about what system is better for what group. That could go on forever. Just my 2 cents. 
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 13:41
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Ok, Folks, I need to clarify somthing. I definately don't consider this debating at all. This is defending my team. I don't enjoy going back and forth with the same 2 or 3 people but I feel that if I don't make sure I stand up for our team, there will be a new prospect who will be interested in us and come here and see some members of this forum saying things about us that aren't true. As is evident, not only on this forum, but others as well, lots of people who aren't on the WCYS call center team seem to want to bad mouth us and criticize us for whatever reason. It first started with people spreading lies about us that the call center had members of Coastal working the phones (not true) and that we don't train our new members and teach people to be lazy (also not true) or that we are not approved by the BOD (no team is) and many other misstatements. I really wish that we can all just stick to talking about the better points of our own teams like the call center team has been doing and not say anything negative about the other teams. I actually compliment Jani and Jay's team ( CSG ). They have great training and support. So does CWB and other teams as well. You won't find me talking junk about those teams either. I guess my point is that if someone said something negative about a family member of yours you would immediately jump to their defense. That is what I am doing. I don't like to do it because I think it makes us all look like teenagers to prospects when we all are very good directors as is obvious by our other posts but I cannot let missinformation go without being corrected when it is being said about my team. This is definately NOT a debate.
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 14:06
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Sorry Harold, wasn't trying to offend you. I understand what your trying to say and I agree that all this down play on one anothers group should come to an end.
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 14:13
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Absolutely no offense taken, Jat. I didn't mean that directed to you but to the whole group who might see this thread and others that have this situation happening.
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# Posted: 15 May 2007 19:04
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Well said, Harold.
I've been on both sides of the fence coming from another NWM company. I've been through Dani Johnson's training (lots of it) and I am good at prospecting and closing on the phone.
What I gain from having the Call Center available is more free time. No more calling prospects throughout the evening when my kids are home - this was the problem I need a solution to - and I found the solution with the Call Center.
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# Posted: 17 May 2007 22:42
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I like the call center cause it allows me to business model 'C'.
I can close the sales myself if I want to, As a matter of fact I often do, because people call me and I close them.
I train my team both ways, how to close and how to advertise so the call center closes.
I teach delegation, not duplication.
Some people close their own sales, develop their skills and over time, won't need a sales center ever, and eventually with a large team, will become a slave to the phone and be afraid to leave the house for fear of a 3 way call coming in and missing the call and the commission maybe coming.
I found having a sales center allows me the true, REAL freedom that is supposed to happen when people work from home.
We hear all the promises of time, money and freedom, but when I did Coastal all by myself, I had NO TIME, NO FREEDOM, but I did have the money.
I was a slave to the phone, and I worked this thing too many hours.
But when I used a call center, my sales doubled, my time off doubled, I could be on vacation making sales, without being involved in the process.
This happens everytime I go on a trip, I make hands free money.
No 3 ways, no trying to make myself available to my team, cause I know our training calls are there to help my new members and my time off is REAL time off.
I can't say it is this easy for people doing it the other way, but, I suppose people without a call center can figure out ways to automated their business while doing vacations or other things.
The bigger your business gets, the more you have to treat it like a real business, get staff, hire people, outsource and delegate.
It is not possible to have a 1000 person team, and run it all by yourself with no outside assistance, in my opinion... unless your 1000 person team is not active, therefore not asking for help.. which then, I suppose you could pull it off.
Either way, there is a way for people to do Coastal how ever they want. More involved, less involved.
Right?
Some think one way is better than the other, which is is just personal opinion, not right or wrong.
As long as we remember that, we'll all get along here just fine, and we can encourage people under whatever system they use.
Just use a system.
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Hi Jeff!
I'm glad to see a senior member of the WCYS team here.
My personal philosophy is to teach duplicability and to use the system in place, just as you mentioned. But, I also can't see myself ever giving up on personal one on one training with people. I love it too much, it really doesn't "feel" like work- and now that I have designed an effective system- its a comparitively minimal time investment on the front end of someone starting their business.
I do see exactly what you mean about being crunched for time when you get to have a very large team, however. 1,000 people IS a little NUTS! But I see that even 10-15 new associates/month is very managable on my system- with about a 25 hour workweek. I wouldn't want to see myself taking on any more then that- so I will cross that bridge when I get to it! I've focused on time management skills, however, quite a bit! That is the beauty of personal development in addition to business skills development. Its helped me to find that balance not only in my business but also in my life.
This is why I have found it invaluable to really choose team members carefully and put my valuable time into them at the front end. I've got a busy life too- a horse farm to look after and a 2 year old! Not to mention a garden and my cooking hobby!
Thing is, all the teams have proven systems- but when I was looking for a director I really knew that for the money I was investing I REQUIRED personal one-on-one training and mentoring. The idea of total system dependance for ME, was a turn off. I was giving someone that $9705 commission and I did expect and need their time. I am glad I looked around and found someone who could give me what I needed!
I have commited to this model, and it is what I teach. I know of several other well established directors with large teams who give team members one on one, individualized time and attention and STILL have free time. Time, Travel, Money and FREEDOM- no point in being self employed if you are a slave to your business. That is where so many people in franchise ownership or professional fields etc etc get stuck. I know it can be done, I'm doing it too!
What I have seen most often in cases like you mention- going on holiday, needing time off for illness etc etc- is teaming up with another simililarly philosophied director for team support when one has to be MIA and ALSO referring members to system resources. Time management skills, and healthy use of technology is great too!
Its great fun being an entrepreneur from home.. but every system has its challenges! The beauty of it all is having the ability to get creative in find personalized solutions that WORK for both you AND your team members.
Though.. I can't ever imagine having a team of 1000 people ACTIVELY working on directors releases simultaneously! Can the teleconfrences lines even handle that many people at once?? That is some serious juggling- I can't even imagine the e-mail volume!
It's going to be a very hard decision for me to delegate or outsource when (if) buisness gets to that point (I fully intend to try and avoid it!)- to me there is no substitute for personal as well as system support. I don't see it happening, to be honest- I have a plan to get people off the ground quickly, and run my business in 6 week cycles.
Right now, though- I'm happy to work a few hours a day, and certainly feel free to leave the house! I have barn work to do and an answering machine, thank goodness. I don't see how now that I'm in the travel industry there will be any "emergenices" everyone is well trained as to what to do before they start doing it!
I'm able to keep a schedule that works for both myself and my team members, and the technology and system in place keeps them from ever being stuck for support or answers when they need them. There is even live online help and technical support during regular business hours! I'm a tech dummy, so I really appreciate that feature myself.
You are right though.. its my personal experience that has formed my opinions. I know that I was approaching this buisness at a significant disadvantage. So, I did my homework very carefully to find the best solution for ME. I encourage others to do exactly that as well. I would hate to ever see someone get into this business or join my group- and not get exactly what they expected to get.
I believe in over-delivery, and I treat others as I would expect to be treated. I know that what goes around, comes around. So I don't teach what I don't DO and I do teach exactly and everything that I DO do.
That is simplicity, in itself.
Cheers
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 24 May 2007 05:50
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Jani,
If all 1000 people were active ya.... it'd be crazy.
But like anything .... there is a big attrition here too. People start off strong, and then crash and burn, or bottom out, no more resources, and then.... I never hear from them again. Sometimes they take breaks, then show up months or years later and I welcome them back with open arms!
10-20% of the people will succeed, I don't know who they are when they get started, but they all have an equal chance and if their desire is strong and they are coachable, they'll make it to the 10-20% who make money and stay with it.
But 80-90% failure rate sucks too, but it's that way in all things in life, 80-20 rule I suppose.
What I have been focusing on lately and I encourage all of you who do a "one on one" training strategy is to invest in gotowebinar tools.
I do many webinars, one to one, and also one to many, to teach and show people all the stuff I have learned, for those who want to plug into this, they love it. No more trying to explain it over the phone, cause we have it live over the pc, in the webinar format. They see what I am talking about.
It's like a global theatre thing that CSG has, but this is for training, not the biz opp presentation, etc... (does CSG use global theatre for training too?)
So, one of the biggest downfalls of teams disappearing, is the new or old director does not have a follow up training system, once people join, to show them the systems.
How many horror stories we all hear... "I joined, paid and never heard from my director again!"
I was one of those stories, I had no idea what to do when I first started, my director left me 3 weeks into it and I never heard from him again.
I, at the time, plugged into CSG and it saved me. I worked hard too, and thought about doing CSG big time, but that is when Vacation Power came out and people loved it, and then since I helped create vacation power, I think CSG leadership felt threatened, so we parted ways, and I went on to do WCYS and such.
But all good teams have a training system. look at official coastal tools dot com, and you'll see the 14 day and 90 action plans.
This is a key point. All the good groups have a systems model for training and getting started, people just need to plug in, have a positive belief and outlook and then just do it.... no matter if they close sales by themselves or have a team doing it, ACTION and getting leads to see and respond to the messages is all our biggest challenge.
Jeff
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# Posted: 24 May 2007 13:18
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hmm.. Jeff, thanks for the tip! The CSG is starting to use the GTP for trainings. I really appreciate that technology- the av component really helps people understand the business and product and fit it all together with a "feel" for the people that make up the CSG.
I have used something similar for letting people see the back office and tech that we have. But you are right, it would make my training job a LOT easier having them actually use that for side by side training online. Never THOUGHT of it! Thanks!
I don't have a failure rate that high- but then again, I haven't been in the business as long as you have and my focus really is not so much on making sales but more about finding quality people. You are right, I'm not looking for people to "try" this business, I'm looking for people who are going to DO it. Taking action, marketing and having that positive belief and life strategy. THAT is the trick. You are bang on about that! I'm sad to hear that the failure rate is that high... to ME, failure was just NOT an option. I did my homework, I committed. I don't half do anything. I would rather die trying then quit, when I know what I am doing is real and realistic.
I'm not going to sit here and tell anyone that this business has been EASY for me, or for anyone else. I did the work. I followed the system. I had my challenges. I learned from them. I'm so much better for this buisness on SO many levels that are so much more then just money. Sure, I started a business to make money. But what I really found was personal development and personal FREEDOM disguised as a business. I don't know how many people can say that about their chosen profession. I don't think very many. But I'm grateful for this business and the many people in it. Thank God and Blessed be.
This business is NOT for everyone. The product IS, but NOT the industry itself! Some will, some won't, so what, so NEXT!! Its life! I still need good folks to fly the airplane, work at the bank and grocery store etc etc. So I'm happy to let people who just can't get out of their own way continue to do what they have always done...
Just my .02!
But thanks for the tips and info!
Jani Teeter
L3 Director, CSG
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