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sportsnut
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 11:21
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i am a level 3 director with coastal and i feel compeled to write this email. in reguards to funtime vacations and the owners . i have been dealing with funtime for quite a while and have never been aproached to join funtime. i went on 2 of there vacations and have only had excellent service and a quality vacation. i have been using there new leads program and am having great success with it. i have also been on there training calls and have never heard them say anything negative about any buisness including coastal. the reason i use them is because of there customer service and all of my customers are real happy with them . bringing funtime into my buisness has realy helped me alot. there commission plan helps me pay for all the things i do in coastal. i feel that false rumors are being spread about funtime because people are worried that funtime is going to take there people and that just isnt true. i have introduced 4 of my group to funtime and none of them have ever been recruited by funtime. my group uses there lead program and there vacation vouchers. i just enrolled in there auto responder program and am already creating great leads to help build my coastal business. im not sure why funtime is being talked about so much unless people are worried . i can only say that i am totaly happy and am making money with both companys
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 15:35 � Edited by: Pheleeto
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Wow, these are very intense conversations. I hope everyone is realizing that nothing good can ever come from promoting negativity. I understand the concept of both businesses very well. I am a Coastal Director and I have been approached by Rusty Directly in the past in regards to looking at the Funtime opportunity. I try very hard not to be overly influence by the opinion of others without getting the facts for myself. I did attend one of his conference calls and after listening found out that what Coastal had to offer was far more lucrative and I would not invest my time and energy in something I thought to be inferior. That is my opinion. We all have the ability to make up our mind when it comes to the things we pursue but of what gain is it to knock others down along the way. Do your research and make a decision form there. The bashing and the fighting over who is better. All the undercutting and undermining someone elses business does no good to no one. Guys, lets not forget that we are trying to attract like minded positive people here. Its perfectly fine to stand up for who and what we believe in without trying to kill each other business.
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 16:06
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I think the point here is that Rusty had taken an opportunity to tell one of my members (decker2006) that her travel package that she just paid several thousand dollars for was basically worthless and that she should come join Funtime. Now, in my opinion that was wrong to do. She had called him to enquire about the trip she had purchased a voucher for and he took advantage of her and badmouthed Coastal. WE DID NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT FUNTIME UNTIL HE GAVE US A REASON TO BE ALARMED BY SAYING THE THINGS HE DID TO MY NEW MEMBER. That is what prompted this thread and I hope it has alerted people that he is using these tactics to recruit.
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2007 00:09
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Quoting: Lynn I used to spend $300 - $350.00 each month on leads now, I get leads, certificates each month and I have control of the A/R message campaigns. Fun Time Distributorship programs don't cost over $300.00 a month.
So how many people have gotten sales for funtime with their unlimited or 20,000 leads program?
I would like to know if they are good leads and if people have tried to use them strickly for Coastal or are they a waste of Autoresponder space?
What data collected on lead does one get, maybe the contact mate software will be a great tool on using massive leads?
Anyone have info to comment?
Jeff
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nikkirner
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2007 06:43
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Hi Guys.I wanted to tell you my experiece. with the leads.What you get is people who opt in are interested in the program or in a vacation.So far everyone I have called has wanted to talk to me.They have wanted more information .I have 2 that are interested in joining one of my businesses.This is only with this months leads as I just started using the leads program. I also still have most of my leads to get in touch with as I have been extremly busy with my full time job this last month.I get names emails and phone # with each lead.I have also not had any with bad phone #'sor bad emails yet.Funtime has also just started a call center for us with a great vacation to intice the prospects.Thanks for listening
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2007 08:31
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Jeff I agree, I can't wait till Contact mate software comes out!
Should be available by end of this month, I can guarantee I will be an affiliate for this software!!
Terri
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2007 10:56
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I found that the Funtime leads have been, for the most part, cold. But there are so many of them, you have sales in there somewhere. I don't think I am good at phone sales though. Someone else may be getting better results. You can use your autoresponder to warm them up by having them opt in multiple times before you call them. Funtime is a very young business, but it has a lot of potental. I did make sales retailing the certificates, but nothing impressive.
I think that Coastal is a business that people can make a lot of money doing. I signed with coastal in December and I never enjoyed the business. I don't think I am very good at telemarketing though. I was not impressed by the packages. The $15,000 worth of savings is based off of the retail package price of the vacations. I don't know anybody who travels retail. There is always an excellent price somewhere on the interenet for any vacation you want to go on. I have never traveled for less than 50% off and I didn't need to be a member to Coastal to do it. Although I think that their price per vacation is comparable to anything else out there. I think the business opportunity is Coastal is what packs the punch, not the vacation club.
Funtime gives me a lot more freedom to market in different ways. I am impressed at some of their vacation pricing. Some vouchers aren't as good of a deal. But I really llike the complete booking engine they offer. I have every vacation anywhere available to be booked through me and my website and I get a commission on every booking. Basic membership only costs $39 a month and it comes with the website where people can book any vacation. The pricing is as good as anything I have seen (expedia, orbitz, etc.) I am new and I haven't done much marketing in either Coastal or Funtime so I may not be the one to ask about results with marketing. I am looking to get out of Coastal because I just simply don't enjoy telemarketing. With funtime, I can just simply sell vacation themselves. Time will tell if I enjoy that. I do have a lot of idea on marketing vacations, but haven't really done very much with them.
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 7 Apr 2007 12:37
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Coastal is still the best to me!
It doesn't just have 1 card it has tons of cards, it doesn't just have a few incentives it has tons.
You still pay a premium even when you get the "low" rates from expedia etc so NO you don't travel retail when going thru expedia etc you will never get a condo or hotel for $199 a week.
If you want to go with any of the other opps that are BRAND new and most are due to FAIL and PAY $399 A MONTH FOLKS!! YES with FT it would be $399 A MONTH To earn fairly decent money. YUK!!!
NO THANK YOU!!
What fool wouldn't see the truth about ft?
C oastal is still the one as the song goes!!
Coastal is where the SMART MONEY goes!!!!
Terri
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sportsnut
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2007 18:56
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after hearing some of these emails i called and spoke to rusty dillon about all the things being said about funtime and coastal. after spending over an hour with him he came up with a great idea. we should have a conference call with anyone who wants to listen . and he could explain all the things that are going on . he also did say that in the past he has said that some of the travel vouchers in the coastal package didnt work . he takes calls everyday from coastal directors that are looking for help , they are not making any money, they cant find the person that brought them in, and people who arnt able to get vacations through some companys in coastal.and his staff gets frustrated. he said he has talked to al at coastal and thinks they have a solution. rusty and al have known each other for 14 years. and they talk all the time. they are working on something realy big that will take care of all of this between coastal and funtime. i have 3 pages of notes so bare with me. write now they are putting togeather a coastal website that will let us have our own booking site and make commissions on anything travel related , flights, hotels, cruises, rental cars, and a great benifits package. just like the new funtime site www.myftvclub.biz. and our own coastal leads site. like funtimes www.funtimeleads.com. and if everything goes well coastal will have this all in house. so that we can all make more money. once this happens there will be no need for all this back and forth. coastal directors will have all of funtimes vouchers , vacation packages and leads and there saber system travel booking arrangments. this is real exciting and i cant wait. having multipal ways of making income will make it easier for all of us to pay for all the things we need to work our coastal buisness. lets get togeather and have a conference call and let him answer any questions . correct me if im wrong , write know coastal realy doesnt own anything they offer. its all second party vendors. if we had this all in house we would truly be the biggest and the best. we would be funtime, global resorts, globel network and ytb, all rolled into one. our cost of leads and auto responders would be cheaper, and we would have additional ways of making money to build our buisness . at the end of our conversation he said all he wants to do is have fun and make people money. he also refered to a previous message that someone said funtime only has 74 distributors and he laughed and said that is since december 1st. . he would like the call because it will give everyone a chance to clear the air and have a possitive conversation and if the people that are saying negative things arnt on the call then everyone will have to form there own opinion. thanks for you time everyone
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sportsnut
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2007 19:04
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hi terri i saw your last post and wanted to let you know that you are not posting the correct pricing to sign up for funtime. please look at the business opportunity portion of the funtime site and you will see you can join for as little as 39.00 per month. i am an exclusive distributor and last week alone i made 349.00 with funtime not including my activation money and it helped me to do my coastal advertising and i sold a level 2 package using funtimes 3 stage auto responder program. thanks
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# Posted: 9 Apr 2007 22:15
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You funtime folks can use this thread to promote funtime if you want but this thread would not have been started if my member hadn't been told that her Coastal package was useless. That's the situation. If some deal is being worked out I will personally wait for Coastal to announce it. It would gain Rusty a great deal of respect if he would stop trying to discourage people about Coastal.
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# Posted: 12 Apr 2007 19:35
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So...just going back to the beginning for a minute. Can someone summarize for me which vouchers are no longer active? Which should I remove from my package?
Thanks!
Dawn
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beckie1229
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# Posted: 12 Apr 2007 19:42
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Dawn, I believe it is the "fly and stay" ones. They weren't in my package at all, so this has been brewing. How are you, I haven't seen you posting much! Shoot me an email, I'd love to hear from you and how your trip was.
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# Posted: 13 Apr 2007 10:52
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Thanks for the info, Beckie.
I've been tied up with some family things for a couple of months. My 'spring break' vacation was not so much a vacation - we had to go out of town to deal with the family issue. (My hubby inherited an old farm.)
I sent you an email a few days ago (or more, maybe)...I'll send another one so we can touch base.
Dawn 
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2007 19:40
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It is funny. I joined a company that promised $10,000 a month to all members for a one time fee of $175.00. They said this would happen methodically and of course would take some time to develop. It has been almost a year and still I am not at $10k a month the targeted goal. Well, it looks like there goes another $175.00. Easy come easy go.
Just recently I bought an ebook for $5 which points out all the online SCAMS and exactly what to be on the lookout for. Eventually these dirtbags will all be out of work and might have to go back and get a JOB! Now that would be rich...
I now have the knowledge and I am confident I will NEVER GET SCAMMED AGAIN!
Here's To Honest Decent People! Brad
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susaneng
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2007 04:45
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Sorry you got scammed Brad. I guess anything that sounds too good to be true is probably a scam.
You definitely have to work at making money. I don't think there is a business out there where it is "easy" money.
Even heavy hitters like Jeff said it took him a year and a lot of investment before he started making it big and now he is able to reap his rewards. He is always available to help people out and he told me he had a lot of free time because his business is pretty much automated.
Are you a Coastal Vacations member?
Wishing you the best of success,
Susan
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# Posted: 18 Apr 2007 13:21 � Edited by: hsimpsonjr
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Here is a quote from another member of Coastal on this forum who called Funtime and they tried to recruit her.
WTConnection wrote:
"When I called to ask about the upgrade I was told that it is thru Funtime Vacations and it would be an extra charge of $100 to $200 per person depending on where I went and for how long. If I'm giving these trips away as gifts I don't want people to have to pay for them when the say only a small processing fee & room tax. Also like most others that called Funtime I also got the come work with us pitch but she never bad mouthed Coastal all she said is that the vendors we work with make it very hard for people to actually get the free vacation, she said they make it so hard that people just give up so that the company doesn't have to honour the voucher. I can't see how we could stay in business if that was really the case-"
Why do you guys keep doing this?
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# Posted: 1 May 2007 00:00
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Hello
my 2 cents worth. The bottom line is, when you call a company about a vacation cert which is included in the coastal package, you would never ever expect that company to bad mouth your company and then try to offer you another way to make money by joining their company. No matter how you cut it, this is unethical business practice and cross recruiting is not looked upon favorably.
I do blame coastal however for still dealing with fun time vacations, despite all the ongoing complaints.
TravelFox is owned by Julie Shinew who was on the board of directors with coastal, but from what I have heard is no longer in coastal.
If fun time is so great, why are they trying to cross recruit coastal reps when they call in with questions on a certificate, why are they not recruiting from their never ending lead sources?
Bottom line is, it is incredulous to think that coastal directors are seeking out a vendor to tell him that they are not making money in coastal and need help.
I am not buying it at all.
cheers
maria
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# Posted: 26 May 2007 11:21 � Edited by: luvtravel
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Quoting: goldmills Quoting: Lynn I used to spend $300 - $350.00 each month on leads now, I get leads, certificates each month and I have control of the A/R message campaigns. Fun Time Distributorship programs don't cost over $300.00 a month. So how many people have gotten sales for funtime with their unlimited or 20,000 leads program? I would like to know if they are good leads and if people have tried to use them strickly for Coastal or are they a waste of Autoresponder space? What data collected on lead does one get, maybe the contact mate software will be a great tool on using massive leads? Anyone have info to comment? Jeff
Good questions Jeff.
Now that everyone has calmed down and
Coastal Directors BOD have decided that
directors will have an opportunity to
join Funtime I have ques for all the Funtime
people who have commented here.
There are a lot of Directors already with Funtime,
the rest of us are in the dark about what the BOD will be offering for
us to join FT.
For those of us who will not be going to Vegas to hear the announcement
anyone know what the incentive that will be offered to us to join?
(PM me if you would with details)
I am certain after seeing the compensation plan imagine what the BOD will get to have all of us sign up.....
This is really getting interesting.
Since we are all interested in making $$$$
I am interested but first would like to know what Coastal 's deal will be.
Thank you
Terri
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 07:08
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Quoting: ibizniz Hello my 2 cents worth. The bottom line is, when you call a company about a vacation cert which is included in the coastal package, you would never ever expect that company to bad mouth your company and then try to offer you another way to make money by joining their company. No matter how you cut it, this is unethical business practice and cross recruiting is not looked upon favorably
My thoughts EXACTLY Maria! I just put something similar on another thread. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking that.
I don't blame the BOD, mind you. I suspect that they are unaware? Funtime has been a provider of ours loooong before they started up their own venture. I know some of their vacations are nice little deals. I think that we should maybe let them know that this has been going on. It needs to be addressed and resolved, I think- before either group can work together ethically and not do a dis-service to one another and bring down the reputation of this industry as a whole?
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 08:58
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First of all Jeff was actually the first to open this "can of worms" regarding the BOD announcing that they are in some way merging or adding to the Coastal opportunity with FunTime.
When googling FT there many, many who are selling both products FT and CV already.
Was it professional of FT to bad mouth CV? NO!
So question is first of all is this so called BOD announcement in a few weeks that we should join and offer FT OR is it that they will no longer use FT as a vendor??
Until that is answered all of this discussion is a moot point.
Did BOD know that this badmouthing by FT happened from what I understood thats a YES!
Now that the cat's out of the bag NO one including Jeff will explain the details.
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 10:59
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I personally get the impression that no-one really KNOWS the details. That explains to me the teasing going on. Not in my tastes, i'm a solid facts and info girl!
I don't think we should be pointing fingers at Jeff or anyone else.. I think we should all just wait and see, if we are interested, do our own homework and information gathering in the meantime.
My focus is COASTAL.. I am passionate about and know about and believe in COASTAL. I'm also aware that programs have been talked about before, cards made etc etc and then NOT gone forward for whatever reason. I don't know the why's behind that, but I do respect Al and the BOD for having good business heads on their shoulders. They haven't steered us wrong yet in 13 years, and they do continually update, grow and modify our products. If there ARE provider problems, that provider is OUT! Its always about growth and improvement. That is why we are the biggest, best and fastest growing organization in the wholesale travel industry.
I think that, if we ARE entrepreneurs that we SHOULD keep an open mind and look at things which might add to and benefit our existing businesses.. but I also think that if we are COASTAL entrepreneurs we should follow the lead of our leadership! As a WHOLE, not a part.
I don't know if this funtime thing is a good thing or not. I DO know, however that this "new" funtime leads and business program is NOT yet in our packages or formally endorsed. I also know there have been problems, which I hope are being addressed and resolved by our BOD folks right now so that, if appropriate- we CAN have this option under our banner.
Thats my position, anyhow!
Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 13:45
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Terri,
I don't remember Jeff mentioning this. The first thing I saw was a post a few weeks ago from a member of this forum who came in and started saying, "you Coastal folks who talk bad about funtime get ready because we are going to be working with them." I don't remember Jeff saying anything about it. I'm assuming your talking about Jeff Mills, Right?
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 16:27
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Hi Bear,
Check out the first post on this link. I think this is what Terri is talking about.
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Whoops sorry Bear, I made a mistake. I think Terri is referring to the post on that is titled Funtime and seller of travel rules. Here is the link:
http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/22_4049_0.html
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 17:10
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Yes, Harold that is the Jeff I am speaking of,
thank you Susan.
Terri
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 08:05 � Edited by: luvtravel
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BTW don't get me wrong I am not blaming Jeff for anything, at least he lets us know stuff that ordinarily we CV Directors are kept in the dark about!
Thanks Jeff!! Love ya man...
Why did funtime dist know about this new merging of FT with CV program BEFORE we CV directors know?
Why did the BOD put the FT/CV program in the current packages BEFORE letting us know about it?
Terri
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 09:56
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Hi Terri and Susan,
I think Jeff's post that you guys reference is several days after sportsnut and a couple of others started this whole "we know something you don't know" thing. I know I talked to Jeff through yahoo messenger right after the subject was brought up on the forum so I don't think he was the one who brought it up. I'll try to confirm for sure.
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 10:13 � Edited by: hsimpsonjr
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OK, after looking for a minute I actually found that the post I was referring to by Sportsnut is in THIS very thread we are on and was made on April 9th. You can see it if you click back to the previous page.
This was his post:
"after hearing some of these emails i called and spoke to rusty dillon about all the things being said about funtime and coastal. after spending over an hour with him he came up with a great idea. we should have a conference call with anyone who wants to listen . and he could explain all the things that are going on . he also did say that in the past he has said that some of the travel vouchers in the coastal package didnt work . he takes calls everyday from coastal directors that are looking for help , they are not making any money, they cant find the person that brought them in, and people who arnt able to get vacations through some companys in coastal.and his staff gets frustrated. he said he has talked to al at coastal and thinks they have a solution. rusty and al have known each other for 14 years. and they talk all the time. they are working on something realy big that will take care of all of this between coastal and funtime. i have 3 pages of notes so bare with me. write now they are putting togeather a coastal website that will let us have our own booking site and make commissions on anything travel related , flights, hotels, cruises, rental cars, and a great benifits package. just like the new funtime site www.myftvclub.biz. and our own coastal leads site. like funtimes www.funtimeleads.com. and if everything goes well coastal will have this all in house. so that we can all make more money. once this happens there will be no need for all this back and forth. coastal directors will have all of funtimes vouchers , vacation packages and leads and there saber system travel booking arrangments. this is real exciting and i cant wait. having multipal ways of making income will make it easier for all of us to pay for all the things we need to work our coastal buisness. lets get togeather and have a conference call and let him answer any questions . correct me if im wrong , write know coastal realy doesnt own anything they offer. its all second party vendors. if we had this all in house we would truly be the biggest and the best. we would be funtime, global resorts, globel network and ytb, all rolled into one. our cost of leads and auto responders would be cheaper, and we would have additional ways of making money to build our buisness . at the end of our conversation he said all he wants to do is have fun and make people money. he also refered to a previous message that someone said funtime only has 74 distributors and he laughed and said that is since december 1st. . he would like the call because it will give everyone a chance to clear the air and have a possitive conversation and if the people that are saying negative things arnt on the call then everyone will have to form there own opinion. thanks for you time everyone "
-end of quote
Jeff, didn't start the "Funtime Vacations and Seller of Travel Rules" thread until May 24th. I hope I'm not misunderstanding your point, Terri and Susan. No big deal but I just wanted to make sure Jeff didn't blamed for something he didn't do. And you are right, Terri. It's nice to have Jeff keep us up to date on things only the "Big Dogs" know. LOL
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 10:24
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Thanks for doing all the research Harold.
This is getting interesting.
Yup Jeff is our Buddy.........
And thanks to Sportsnut..
Terri
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