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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 14:30
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Listen up, folks. Noreen, a new member of mine sent off a voucher for a "Fly and Stay" trip that was serviced by "FunTime Vacations" or FunTime Travel or something like that. She had a question about the trip so she called the number on the back and talked to some guy and he told her that the voucher she had and all of the other vouchers in her package were worthless and that most of them would never lead to anyone taking a vacation from using them. After he told her that he told her that Funtime was starting a company like Coastal and she should consider joining his team of new Funtime reps and that it was WAY better than Coastal. Of course Noreen, being a new member, was very concerned and she wanted to call me but didn't have my number with her at work and so she found Stephanie Johnson's number on the web and called her. Stephanie said that they were having problems with Funtime and were going to "deal" with him. All she has to do is send the voucher back to NB Management with a letter that explained what happened and they would send her a replacment from another vendor. After I got off the phone with Noreen it hit me that I remember I heard on one of the calls that all of the "Fly and Stay's" had been discountinued. (someone correct me if I'm wrong) So, what I am saying is make sure and tell your members that might be ordering these trips that they are discontinued and that the Funtime guy is trying to recruit them by saying that Coastal is full of bad vouchers which is TOTALLY UNTRUE! It is a lie! Coastal could not be as successful as it is and as old as it is if we didn't have EXTRAORDINARY VALUE! Alert your members about this and don't let them get worried about this. Noreen, feel free to ad anything I missed.
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homeofficewiz
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 15:06 · Edited by: homeofficewiz
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I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THE MEMBERS INFORMED.
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decker2006
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 15:10
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All I can say is I was completely taken aback by this guy. He was really putting Coastal down and I was so surprised. He was saying that because Coastal had junk to offer, many directors (he said 1,100!) had joined up with him to compliment their Coastal business. He mentioned all kinds of keywords - like with him, you would earn the residual income you don't have with Coastal. I have written a letter to NB Management alerting them that someone is trying to poach Coastal Directors. Folks, NOTHING seemed right about this. I would NEVER join an organization that uses those kinds of tactics, no matter how much $$ he promises I would make. It is people like him that can give Coastal a bad name and he needs to go NOW! Do not accecpt vouchers from Funtime!
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Amanda_Kern
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When I contacted Fun Time Vacations to request more information about the Bahamas Cruise & Stay, this was included in the response I received:
Do you mind if I ask you how you are doing in Coastal? I was in
Coastal for 2 years and struggled a lot so now I am now doing Fun
Time Vacations along with Coastal and was wondering if you'd be
interested in hearing about this opportunity? Probably about 90% of our Distributors are also in Coastal and are doing this to make more money or to help their dowline make money while doing Coastal too.
We have about 10 ways to make money in Fun Time Vacations which is what is appealing to everyone....you are not stuck only selling packages for income.
That really rubbed me the wrong way, too. Thanks for sharing this, Harold.
Amanda
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 15:58
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I'm surprised Coastal hasn't already done something about this.
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travelingcoastal
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 16:16
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I had someone e-mailing me a few times to join FunTime Vacation. I believe her name was Nicci. I'm just shocked what I am reading here.
I booked the Bahama cruise & stay, but since things came up I had to cancel but my money will not be returned. I hope I will be able to take it at a later time.
Thanks Harold to inform us!
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beckie1229
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 16:19
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Yes, Fun Time has broken away from Coastal and is advertising. I've seen some of their ads so they might try highjacking our threads on message boards too...ahhh, Capitalism!!
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 16:30
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I will be honest and say I don't have a problem with them advertising and even competing with us as long as they don't lie to our members who are using part of the coastal package and tell them they threw their money away and that they need to come with them. That is what burnt me up.
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mjsparadise
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 16:50
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I was on the call on Monday 3/19, and I am sure that they mentioned the fly and stay packages were discontinued.
Although they do have new packages that sound great 
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matiasmommy
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2007 16:59
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I have also had very bad experiences with funtime, and understand that in fact there is actions that are being taken to stop it.
The company is MLM style and is in fact poaching and spreading mis-information to coastal members and in particular praying on newbies and existing directors as their warm market.
I actually was getting many calls from their reps with my ppc advertising. The main question I have is "why WOULD I want to join another related or competitive company that offers what we ALREADY have or DID have in our package? Why would other successful coastal directors want to do same?" The conclusion that I reached in my research is that this company is both poorly organized and unethical using falsely incentived leads and currently CV directors in it are IN it because they are not or were not busy or successful in thier coastal business. Now, why the heck would I wish to represent myself as an unsuccessful director with coastal who needed to offer an alternative? They don't provide anything that we don't. We have the oldest, largest and MOST comprehensive package. I have done extensive research and truly have NOT found a better or more ethical product or opportunity ANYWHERE. There is a REASON I choose to put MY name and reputation behind Coastal.
It is very sad that they have managed to put doubts into the minds of people, including one of my own team members who has so much potential and so much to loose with his business. Here I THOUGHT that as Rusty was a provider for our company that he MUST be a fair, good and ethical guy. It appears as though he has gotten greedy. Last I heard a few weeks ago, they don't have 1,100 or whatever members, they have 74.
To me, its very sad that a long term provider of coastal has taken advantage of and in fact tried to smear our good business. I do hope the BOD sends out a press release soon! Its very sad, as that fly and stay was a lovely holiday with exceptional value. I'm sure the BOD is working on replacing or fixing that ASAP.
I don't have a problem advertising or competing with us either. Fact is, they aren't competition now, and the majority of MLM's flounder in the first 5 years. At the rate they are going over there, with very poor organization and such I don't see them as ever being able to grow to the point we have and become a contender.
Ugg.. Im' so very sorry to hear that others have had bad experiences as well. I hope it gets sorted out shortly before others get hurt.
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Jani Teeter
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2007 02:43
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Hi Homeofficewiz,
Are you with Coastal Vacations? Just wondering because I saw your website with the Plug In Profits. I was once a member of Plug In Profits.
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2007 02:45
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Thanks everyone for informing us about Funtime. I saw on a board somebody was asking about this company and wondered if they had been scammed. I remember looking at the site and thought it looked like a company that was trying to compete with Coastal.
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OnlineMoney24 7
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2007 10:12
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Wow I can't believe Funtime. Do they actually believe they will become a major player in the travel industry by running a unethical business like that?
One thing that has convinced me that Coastal is a REAL opportunity is the fact no one has pressured me into a sale. Everyone is very helpful in answering questions so that I can make the right decision for myself.
I hope the Coastal BOD does do something about Funtime.
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decker2006
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# Posted: 22 Mar 2007 12:15
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Quoting: OnlineMoney24 7 I hope the Coastal BOD does do something about Funtime.
When I spoke with Stephanie, who is on the BOD, she mentioned it was being taken care of. I am sure, just like with any organization, there is a process when the BOD needs to dismiss a vendor. The fact that they continually analyze who they do business with is a great comfort because to me, the product itself is extremely important. I plan on using it for the rest of my life so it better be good!!
Was the Fly and Stay discontinued altogether? I thought someone mentioned it was. My voucher mentioned it had been upgraded to a seven night stay (up from 3). That was the reason I called Funtime in the first place because I was looking for a shorter holiday.
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2007 13:23
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I had actually spoken with Al about Rusty with Fun Time Vacations at least 2 months ago when he started bad mouthing coastal. Al told me after a few converstaions that the issues had been resolved.
Well he said that Rusty denied ever saying anything negative and then he called back saying everything was resolved.
I am happy that I read this thread I will call Al again about this matter.
From what I understand, Funtime is attempting to funnel coastal reps to their new business by discrediting coastal and the certificate they provide.
It makes NO sense that a company would say that their cert is rubbish? illogical.
I am sure that Stephanie is a great gal, but even on the call last night when a really nice director mentioned that they had not been able to contact a rep they had always used to book condos, in over a 6 week period, Stephanie gave an excuse that they must be swamped (for 6 weeks?). Al stepped in and said he would sort it out.
If I ever have an issue with anything I go straight to Al. Saying that, this issue with Funtime obviously was Never sorted out.
FYI the fly and stay has been a yoyo vacations, coastal offered it, then took it away then offered it and took it away about 4 months ago. If you order it unknowingly they will mail you a cruise and stay cert in place of it.
great thread everyone
cheers
maria porter
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msmilletics
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# Posted: 23 Mar 2007 14:04
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Maria,
Good to see you here!
Would it make sense that the BOD would put this information up on the www.officialcoastaltraining.com site? I mean, thats what that site is for- to act as a central place for all Coastal reps, regardless of group affiliation, to get updated info just like this.
Are you saying that someone was trying to book a condo for 6 weeks and was unable to? Was that with the condo card?
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ibizniz
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# Posted: 27 Mar 2007 18:09
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Hello
that was with a specific agent that they were used to dealing with.....I am not sure which card she was referring to.
You can hear the recording on my site.
I know I liked dealing with HSI and they are no longer avaialble for us, but there are still plenty of excellent travel co's in the access back office.
It would be a good idea to have a member only forum in the coastal back office, so problems could be addressed there and not on the live calls.
ditto, nice to see you too
cheers
maria
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hsimpsonjr
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2007 00:02
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We still have access to HSI if you call them. They can tell you over the phone what burn weeks are availble if you tell them when you want to travel. The HSI number is 800-353-0774. Tell them you are an Access member and then tell them when you can travel and that you want the burn weeks.
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2007 12:18
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Hi Maria,
Not sure what group you are with, but CSG has started members only calls for questions they have that don't need to be addressed with prospects!
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ibizniz
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# Posted: 28 Mar 2007 18:06
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hiya jdunn
I have my own group....have for over 5 1/2 yrs
I have my own team websites, training site, tools etc
Cheers
maria
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As a former member of Coastal AND a current member of Fun Time I must reply to this issue of Fun Time NOT being a reputable company and the issue of Fun Time being the company that has NOT fulfilled YOUR COASTAL Fly & Stay vouchers.
First of all....Fun Time WAS NOT the original vendor for those Fly & Stay Vouchers that are provided to every Coastal member. Coastal had another vendor but they were shut down for some reason so Fun Time has been asked to try to replace these vouchers with something else. Next....NOBODY in Fun Time is trying to recruit anyone from Coastal. We are simply telling people that those vouchers that Coastal has put into the package that this person has just spent a lot of money on are no longer any good and to look at what we have to take it's place. JUST LIKE WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO BY COASTAL. The whole issue with those vouchers has nothing to do with Fun Time at all. It's not Fun Time's fault that Coastal is continuing to put these vouchers in their packages.
Next, the reason that when we talk to people, we suggest doing both businesses together is because statistically 90% of people in Coastal don't make any money. You CAN'T sell any portion of your packages individually. At Fun Time we CAN and people CAN make money with us while they are trying to build their Coastal business. There is nothing wrong with suggesting to people that they try both businesses together. While they are sitting around waiting months sometimes to make thier 2 training sales they can be out there making a lot of money selling our vacations and discount cards.
There will always be skeptics and people who are closed minded...but I just had to stick up for the company that has finally shown me a way to make money.
All I'm saying is that people should always reserch a company before shelling out a lot of money for it and they should never go by what someone on this site is saying alone.
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Lynn
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I wanted to take a minute to shine the light on what is happening with Fun Time and the Fly and Stay Packages. The Fly and Stay certificates were serviced and contracted by a vendor named "TravelFox". Those of you that have gotten the certficates can see Travel Fox all over them. Some time after they negotiated and provided the certificates to Coastal, Travel Fox no longer was able to honor the terms and conditions of that vacation. Those certificates should have been pulled from each and every coastal package, notices should have been sent to each director and they should have been thrown away. But they weren't. Al with the BOD approached Fun Time and asked whether Fun Time could handle all the Fly and Stay certificates that were out there. Fun Time does have some amazing Fly and Stay packages, but the terms and conditions are NOT the same as Travel Fox. Therefore, folks are blaming Fun Time for the fulfillment of those vacations; which is wrong.
It is true that Fun Time has a business opportunity to share with Coastal Members. Everyone knows that Coastal Directors can not sell the certificates in their package, Fun Time allows you to make commissions from selling their certificates. There are 10 other ways to make money with Fun Time. The entire motive of Fun Time is NOT to steal Coastal People, it's to keep Coastal people in the game. How many of you have heard, "I don't have the money". Well Fun Time is one of Coastals BEST Vendors, dispite what you have heard. Fun Time is not leaving Coastal and is the only NON-Breakage certificate Company that Coastal has. There is no direct competition between Coastal and Fun Time.
Fun Time offers certificates that you can sell, not $11,000 dollar packages. Fun Time offers residual income for referring folks, $100.00 per month on a referral, not the $10.00 a month you may get from your website referrals. Fun Time offers amazing leads/auto responder prices, where you get 20,000 leads each month. These things are NOT competition for Coastal. Coastal does not sell leads or auto responders. Please take the time to review the facts before listening to 3rd party hearsay and rumors.
Fun Time and Al with the BOD are negotiating a contract where all of Fun Time's vacations products will be offered to Coastal Folks so you can sell them and make commissions. It's a Team Effort to keep Coastal Folks in the GAME...When you are spending $300-$500 a month on just 100 leads, you can get $20,000+ in leads to direct to your website, your movie, your information.
Fun Time Vacation Club is a distributorship program that pays residual income for others needing a new leads source and folks that want to sell certificates along with their coastal package. It is perfect when you talk to a company, business or prospect, and when they say "NO, it's too much money..." you can offer them one of the vacations that is offered in your Coastal Vacation Package - and make money doing it.
I am in Fun Time and also an Active Coastal Member. No one is bashing Coastal, no one says quit Coastal - its something you can do along with your Coastal Business. Imagine going to a car dealership, they buy 100 certificates for $6.00 a piece. You just make $300.00 as they cost you just $3.00. Each person activates those vacations to go on the trip and you make $25.00 per cert. So you earn, $2,500.00 more dollars.. Then you now have 100 - HIGH QUALITY LEADS. When those folks take their trip, you can approach them to buy a package. It only makes sense.
Fun Time teaches you how to do promotions, how to build a well rounded business in the Travel Industry - Along with Coastal. It is NO Different than paying extra to Inteletravel for their booking IATA products. With Fun Time you can be a Travel Agent and make commissions that way also.
I used to spend $300 - $350.00 each month on leads now, I get leads, certificates each month and I have control of the A/R message campaigns. Fun Time Distributorship programs don't cost over $300.00 a month.
I have found that everyone in Fun Time is supportive of Coastal, YTB, Traverus and Global Resorts and encourages everyone to "just make money". Fun Time works with all these programs as we have folks from each of them utilizing the Fun Time program. To post anything else about the motives and integrity of the Fun Time folks is just untrue and unfair.
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nikkirner
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Hi everyone.I just wanted to talk to everyone just a minute about coastal and funtime.I am actually an active member of both.I don't bash coastal because I believe inthe company and believe I can make big money with it.I have used the product and have saved big with it.I have been to the seminars and know the product works.I got involved with funtime the same way others did.I had called about a vacation and needed help.I spoke directly to Rusty and he resolved my problem.Never once did he bash coastal.He offered me a way to expand my current biz.He did not want me to leave coastal just expand it.No the fly and stays that coastal had were no good.But we knew that from the last seminar.Some must have fallen through the cracks and been given out anyway.Nothing funtime could do but offer something else in its place.They were not originaaly from funtime and if you check your vouchers you will know that.As far as taking away from coastal I don't think that was the intention.Many times I can't sell a package because the price is too steep for ordinary folks.But now I can sell them a condo card or a voucher and make a little money myself.They use the product ,go on vacation ,realise I have something legit and come back for more.I am not making a million on funtime but it is keeping my coastal biz going because when I don't sell a package I am still making a few dollars.Another thing I like about funtime is That I can always talk to one of the directors or trainers and even Rusty.They are always available.I want to comment on the FREE vacations.They are no different from coastal.Yes you have to pay the activation fees etc.but that is required with the coastal vacations also.They also advertise as tax only but there is also an activation fee.You all know that is required with all the vacations.I have found that Funtime is legit and have been happy with all of my experiences with them.But I am still a level 2 coastal director and still believe in coastal.Please get all the facts before you go crazy telling people we are a scam.Thanks for listening!!!!
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 05:47 · Edited by: luvtravel
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What is with all this SPAM???
How does one report spam??
Terri
Funny how the driveby spammers come on and post ONE post.
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 05:55 · Edited by: luvtravel
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IF WE at COASTAL VACATIONS want to "expand" our business we find a way ourselves we don't need funtime!
COASTAL vacations is NOT overpriced period end of story!!
How and why do I know this because I was approached by a very LEGIT vacation/vouchers company to use their certficates/vouchers to promote Coastal, they sell each one for $20 and the minimum purchase is 50 that's $1,000 for ONE Vacation voucher!!
COASTAL IS JUST $1295 with over $15,000 worth of vacations that can be used again!
Get your facts straight about COASTAL VACATIONS before you come here and spam us with funtim COASTAL vacations is the best in the industry at the best price for those looking for a legit company that provides a LUCRATIVE income! Sooo before you spout off statistics about 90% people not making money do get your facts and statistics straight.
Terri
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TERRI,Why would this be spam? It is just defending the other side of the coin.If you check out the ripoff reports ther are no reports for funtime but many for coastal.That is becuase someone is in charge of what happens at funtime.There are many people out ther who will rip off the unsuspecting and because coastal directors are all independant this can happen frequently.believe me I am not bashing coastal.It is my main biz.I just do not want funtime bashed because people do not understand what is going on.Check it out.You may be pleasently surprised
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# Posted: 6 Apr 2007 06:01
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NO THANK YOU!!!
Terri
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Terri,That is fine but take your own advice and get your facts straight before you spout off about something you know nothing about.Remember I am a coastal director and my Director is on the leadership counsel so I know what I am talking about.I have nothing bad to say about coastal.I have used the package and been very satisfied with all my savings.I can also buy those vouchers you were mentioning for 3.00 each and make a 22.00 commission when they are activated.No where near 1000.00 dollars.I am also using the funtime vacations and flight card this month and have savedalmost 1000.00 so far.
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OK, funtime folks,
I believe what you are saying but I also believe what my member is telling me. She was told that ALL OF THE VOUCHERS IN HER COASTAL PACKAGE WERE TRASH and she was told that she would NEVER get vacations from them. THAT IS A LIE! She didn't just make this story up about funtime. She was asking questions about the vacation that she was sent that was no good and this guy TOTALLY TRASHES Coastal and promotes Funtime. What are we supposed to think when this happens. She was so concerned she called Stephanie Johnson, Coastal Board Member, and she said is was "being taken care of". Who knows what that means. I don't mind people working 2 or 3 businesses that compliment eachother but what my new member experienced actually made her think that she might have been scammed by me and that REALLY MADE ME UPSET(not at her but at this funtime jerk) because I am an honest person and would NEVER do that to a person. Funtime might be legit and you guys might be using it in an ethical way but they need to do some soul searching because someone in the main office of Funtime is either lying to you or us. I know he lied to my new member and I hope he isn't lying to you guys.
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Quoting: Lynn am in Fun Time and also an Active Coastal Member. No one is bashing Coastal, no one says quit Coastal - its something you can do along with your Coastal Business. Imagine going to a car dealership, they buy 100 certificates for $6.00 a piece. You just make $300.00 as they cost you just $3.00. Each person activates those vacations to go on the trip and you make $25.00 per cert. So you earn, $2,500.00 more dollars.. Then you now have 100 - HIGH QUALITY LEADS. When those folks take their trip, you can approach them to buy a package. It only makes sense.
As someone who has had first hand experience with Rusty, I CAN say he was bashing Coastal. This is a SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT business from Coastal. Let's stick with the car dealership analogy for a moment. I prefer to put my time in selling the whole car rather than car parts! Coastal is a legit business that has been around for a long time. It takes time to work it. I do not have the time or the mental energy to run two SEPARATE businesses. Quoting: Lynn Coastal does not sell leads or auto responders. Please take the time to review the facts before listening to 3rd party hearsay and rumors.
Facts? Coastal BOD does recognize 3 organizations for selling leads and why don't you opt in to my site to check out my auto responder?
I'll be perfectly honest - when I got off the phone with Rusty, I felt completely disgusted with his tactics. I could go on about that, but it is my opinion and enough said.
These companies have two totally different mentalities.
I am with Terri 100%.
Noreen
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