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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 18:49
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JasonP: Lora, I checked out your site and everything and even listened to the Q & A call.... are the Wealth Builders part of a call center? Or what exactly is the group all about? I really want to join at the Platinum level and that won't be happening for awhile, but I still want to get as much info as I can. Any info would be great, thanks.
Hi Jason,
To answer your question, no, the WealthBuilders are not a part of a call center.
I would be happy to talk to you and answer any questions that you have in person...just give me a call (my direct number is on my website) or send me an email (also on my website) with a good time to talk!
Sorry I didn't answer you sooner. We went out of town for the weekend and I ended up promising the family I wouldn't do any work 
I will talk to you soon!
Lora
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 18:51
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asebf: And by the way, Lora is about as a good director as you could ever hope for to get you going on your way to profit.
Thanks Bob! I really have to find out who you have been talking to! 
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 20:07
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JasonP: I really want to join at the Platinum level and that won't be happening for awhile, but I still want to get as much info as I can.
That is awesome - you are definitely positioning yourself for success by doing that and Lora is an awesome director!
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 21:25
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daddyosb: $150.00 per month a web-site,
What kind of a website were you using that cost that much?? wow!
I don't blame you for getting frustrated - do you have a good training and support group to hang with and bounce things off on?
Support is HUGE in any business and Coastal is no different! Also, if you haven't done so, go to danijohnson.com and plug into her free training - you can't lose by taking more training, right??
Don't give up - you have your Coastal package and your business isn't going anywhere - so take some time to regroup and if you want some ideas on marketing your business for free - browse around this site for ideas or send me a pm and I'll send a few tips your way - ok?
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# Posted: 15 Apr 2008 00:36
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mountainmom5: daddyosb: $150.00 per month a web-site,
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Viola - CSG's web stuff was what he was spending the 150/month for I believe. It appears he got caught in the transition I guess???
I am under the understanding that Nitsa/CSG tried to do everything possible to not leave anyone behind - whether they made the jump to P1D or not???
Dunno. As Jim put it - reading his post - all can feel his pain. I am in not in a position to help him. Hopefully Jim is correct in that he will have income coming from the leads he has in his que that his (Jim's) staff is working.
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# Posted: 20 Apr 2008 11:41
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The thing with frustration is that it can lead to non-activity. Many get frustrated and just throw their hands up. So how do you get out of that mode.
First I think it's important to find out the source of your frustration. For many its money issues. So how do your resolve that? Well one way to cut cost is to learn how to generate your own targeted leads. You could host a home party and give away vacations to everyone who attended. Creating a customer appreciation day for a business and giving away a cruise is another option. Advertising on the internet is a very cost effective way to generate leads as well.
Create a free website for yourself or have a web designer make one for you. Need a free website well create a blog. There are many tools to do just that. If you aren't internet savvy then hire a designer. My web design business does well as many like to make a one time investment as opposed to paying monthly fees.
Get involved with a group that is innovative. Be sure to get involved with the live calls and presentations that are available. If you are frustrated get around people that are successful and feed off their energy. That energy will wear off on you and make you feel better. If you need a pick me up then give me a call. I'm always happy as I reflect on the blessing in my life as opposed to the obstacles.
Well thats my 2 cents on the issue of frustration. As always my door is open to any questions up for debate or clarification. I wish you all the best in your businesses and would love to hear your feedback.
Adam Frederick
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faithhopelove
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# Posted: 4 May 2008 00:21
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Hello,
I am a released Level II director with Coastal Vacations. I have been looking into the call centers, WCYS and the Coastal Closers. If someone from each group could tell me...as a released director what would be the fee to join and what is your monthly fee? (I have looked through some past threads and I see the price if you buy a package and join but, not the fee if you are already a director). I appreciate your time.
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# Posted: 4 May 2008 19:49
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Hi ...
Here's the short answer to what is actually a long question.
WCYS will not give you a "break" and they do have a monthly
fee for their site that runs last time I heard, $50 per month or so.
Their thinking is ... and you would have to agree ... whoever is
the Member of their center who did whatever marketing it took
whether to be found on a search engine or you saw them in an
ad ... you are joining THAT PERSON if you join a Call Center.
It's not their fault you spent money joining CSG or bought your
release from someone or found some "privateer" out there selling
Coastal today and now they are off selling something else or quit
altogether.
In Coastal Closers ... we don't see it quite like that.
Yes, you are still joining a Member of the Center with Coastal Closers.
But we all understand you don't want to "bite the bullet" and have
to requalify all over again, buy another package (and I think you
can actually get WCYS to let you off the hook for paying for another
package).
With The Coastal Closers ... you can join us for as little as $69.95
and then you'd pay $49.95 monthly UNTIL ... we make your first
Level 1 or higher sale for you.
If you join at any other level .. starting at $720 ... there is no fee
paid monthly for the sites you can have with us.
And, we make OUTBOUND calls to your prospects. You are not stuck
having to somehow get your prospect to call US.
If you want more info ... holler back and we'll arrange a visit. There
is a lot I can't really go into here, like Qualifying Sales Forgiveness
and how we no longer require Pass Up Sales Without pay and in
5 minutes on the phone, we can explain it and save a ton of typing.
It is your call from here.
Thanks for asking ... very good question.
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# Posted: 24 Jun 2008 12:05
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Here is a great strategy. Get voiceblasting software like Ibuzz Pro. Then buy a list of timeshare buyers or travel leads ( can get them dirt cheap from like list guy) Do a voice broadcast pointing them to your call center. Full automation, high ROI, what more do you want?
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# Posted: 13 Aug 2008 09:45
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I just wanted to add a follow up Jim's post and mention that Coastal Closers offers a free Coastal-specific website for each member. The leads that have the best ratio of becoming sales are from people who actually go to a Coastal website and fill out the form with contact information and a few short questions. These will always be better than any purchased leads.
Online advertising, blogs, safelists, forums and direct in-person marketing can all be utilized to direct people to your member website.
Another method to try is a landing page. At
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# Posted: 2 Sep 2008 14:59
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Hello
The problem with all centers is that you are dealing with humans and there is a limit to how many calls they can make per day.
With an automated calling system, you can record a message and send a voicemail to 1,000 prospects for about $40 and it takes no longer than about 10 minutes to set up.
The automated dialers don't get tired, upset or take a portion of your profits!
I have been using this system for P1D and it's more than fantastic.
Hope this helps
Maria
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DomainLoco
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2008 18:59
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I really can't stand this whole Coastal Vacations stuff, it makes me sick how many people truly believe this is a business!! lol
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 11:07
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Hi Daniel
Of Course you are entitled to your own opinion. So what is it? You dont like Coastal because you failed at it? You dont like Coastal because everybody else is seeing success? Or is it just because you dont understand it?
I am a Platinum Director and I have been very successful with Coastal. I sell Travel... You sell Life Insurance...I sell dreams, you sell Nightmares!
Good Luck With That!..
Sean Keely
Owner & CEO Expect Your Success Marketing
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 15:30
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Great response, Sean!
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 01:24
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Hello Sean
I think your answer to Daniel was very harsh.
Not everyone is going to like Coastal. That is why there are so many businesses available for home business wannabees. Just because Daniel thinks Coastal is not a real business does not give you a right to be mean. There are plenty of ways that coastal does not fit a traditional home business model. There is no company, there is no product support center, there is no office which handles customer support, no one handles compliance etc
Also, I am curious, Coastal does not have Platinum Members, they have Level I, II and III directors. Platinum One Destinations has a Platinum level?...How are you a platinum director?
Cheers
maria
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 11:57
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Ok Im Done
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 22:40
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Maria,
I'm really surprised to hear you take up for someone coming into the Coastal Vacations area and doing nothing but criticizing Coastal. Coastal is still making money for lots of people and this forum is meant to help those who are still using it. Not give those, like Daniel, a platform to slam it. This is unusual for a lady of your character.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 22:46
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Frustration is something that can easily be remedied. All it take is a new perspective on how to run your Coastal business. Ive learned various ways to run my business. Many of them are not what you normally see in the Coastal forums but they are proven business methods.
Like many I tried many of the traditional Coastal methods and while I had success with them many of my teammates didnt. So I improvised. I learned to retail to travelers. I started showing businesses the value of the package and I made my Coastal opportunity more attractive to people looking to get started in business. Instead of downing other opportunities or other groups I learned what they did to become successful and bean to implement many of their methods into my own business.
After that no more frustration. So I suggest to anyone that is frustrated to take a step back and do some research and change your mindset on Coastal. I did and it's working great for me.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 23:23
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Good for you, Adam! Great to have you back on the forum.
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# Posted: 17 Sep 2008 11:35 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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If you are frustrated with Coastal Vacations I can relate. In the past I have had success as well as many failures with Coastal Vacations. My failures dealt mostly with having members have the same success I had. So at first I looked at how I was trainig people to see what I could do to be better. Whenever there is a problem in business you should always look inhouse first. So I did and here is what I found.
My methods of training were sound. What was the problem was some of the systems used. They were good systems with many features and great potential but had one major flaw. Many of the systems became self serving. Take for instance the leads systems. Leads became more expensive as time went on and I found I had the same success with leads that cost a penny as opposed to those that cost dollars to purchase. I suggest creating your own leads.
Another system that could be improved on was the replicated websites. Now I will admit many of the sites are amazing to look at and for many with limited internet skills this is their only option. But as a website designer I know that the cost to operate many of the sites and what was being charged had a huge margin. Also there are many websites that are easily created and free that could be used. We have talked about duplication in the past how about duplicating something free and giving our new members a leg up from the start.
The last thing I want to talk about is the system we used to duplicate our business growth. Many of us have become what as known as business builders and prospect to find new members. This is where I have seen the least success with most members. Ive heard figures that somewhere up to 90% of people fail in home based businesses and I think the way we prospect has alot to do with this. Most people arent salespeople. To get on the phone no matter what opt you are promoting or whatever script or style you are using its still a sales pitch. Salesmen are one of the highest paid industries for a reason. Sales is an acquired skill. Not to mention the market is saturated with thousands of opportunities ( many of which are less expensive than Coastal or even free). So I began to retail more and found as people saw the success we had they began to ask more about the business side of Coastal.
I took the business aspect of Coastal to the next level by creating innovative ways to get people started. Many of these methods were either my own of borrowed right from the various other Coastal teams on the market. I wanted to take away all the excuses and give the most people I could a chance.
So to conclude I would like to say that if you are frustrated then change your mindset. Look at what you are doing and grade it. See what you can improve upon. Once you do and change your methods success should be right around the corner.
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2008 16:09
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Hello Everyone ....
It's been a great summer and now that the kids are back in school,
vacations are pretty much over and we're in sight of the end of this
year (can you believe it?) -- it's time to focus on what you want (or
need) to do to finish this year financially On Target for your goals.
That's where Coastal and a business using Coastal as the product
to generate money comes in. And if you're of the "Frustrated Coastal"
category, then this could be that breath of fresh air you're looking for.
Aside from the generic duties of bookkeeping, ordering, shipping
and paperwork that all businesses have to deal with --- and most
everyone can handle with no issues --- there's two other duties that
all businesses have to have going on or they absolutely will last
only as long as YOU have the money to stay in the game.
Selling and Marketing. That's it.
If you are experiencing frustration with your Coastal business, the
chances are pretty good it's because of 1 of 2 problems you face.
1. You are having challenges selling (or selling enough) to the people
you are presenting to.
2. You are having challenges getting enough people to sell to (or
affording enough leads to have enough people to sell to).
Either of those 2 areas, selling and marketing, if not done well
and in enough volume --- will kill your business.
You can't have a business and have either one missing.
So what do you?
DELEGATE OUT the one that most likely is the hardest for you to do.
Usually ... that is the selling.
Most people though, want to try their hand at the selling part, as
it doesn't cost any money to try it. So, they will gather up some
leads or names of people who are easy to approach (it doesn't
matter why they are easy, as in relatives, friends, co-workers).
Unless you are already a PROFESSIONAL at selling ... the advice to
go and "test the waters" with the easy to approach people is BAD
ADVICE.
Why? Because they usually know you and they know you're new
and they believe you don't know all there is to know about what
you are selling and .... the list is long why all you will do is burn a
good market you could have made money on.
How? By delegating the selling to someone that can do it and do
it better than you can (at least for now).
If that sounds like it makes sense ... ask questions.
Marketing isn't "easy" either and can take some money to do it. But
the effect of being "new" at marketing doesn't BURN YOUR MARKET
like the effect of being "new" at selling ... which is the final step in
the sales process and the one that is easiest to do damage with.
Ask questions ... get answers. Find out how you can outsource the
selling part of the operation.
Have a great week ....
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2008 17:42
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CREATING SOME MOMENTUM
Are you frustrated and need a boost in your business? If so try this. Use your package to promote itself. For years many of us have been buying leads and then just calling them to generate business. This creates a bunch of challenges for most. First you have to buy the leads. Unless you have my philosophy of a lead is a lead is a lead ( I say this because we market travel and everyone loves travel) you are probably paying tons for leads. The second challenge is once we get those leads then we have to contact them and TALK to them. This involves some level of sales which for many is a challenge within itself.
Here is what I suggest. Find out how to generate your own leads in your own area. You can do this by giving away vacations through businesses. Let a business owner looking for customers give away you vacations as a bonus on their sales items. For example for every customer that buys "x" product or spends "x" amount of money they enter a drawing to win a Carnival Cruise. The cruise cost us what $30? Imagine how many leads you can get with that $30. You can even offset that cost to the winner ( be sure to spell this out in the details upfront). Ive done this various times and if you have questions be sure to contact me.
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If you are shy on talking to people then create a website the prospects can go right to and enter their info as well as read all the "sales stuff". Link a Coastal Profile, a Coastal Video as well as any other ways you can show the product and advertise without you having to do the selling yourself. Ive spent the last few years learning how to do this and teach my teammates ( a bonus of signing up with me ) as well as teaching outsiders (some by fee as well as giving away my free info) how to so the same.
Frustration can evaporate quickly with a great plan.
ADAM
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2008 01:56
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Hello to the "Frustrated" & "I Hope I Won't Be!" Readers....
What if you had no cost for leads ...?
What if you had no need to market ...?
What if you didn't have to do the calls and presenting?
What if you didn't have customer service issues?
What if you didn't need your own merchant account?
Would the elimination of those things help with the frustration?
Of course.
So that I don't get this post deleted like the one previous to this
one that did get eliminated ... let me simply say this.
There are ways to get rid of the frustrations mentioned and actually
you could do it without "me" .... but you would have to ask to get
the answers.
Coastal is truly a "rock" of a business in these troubled economic
times, having weathered and continue to provide excellent income
to those that know how to work and adapt to the times today.
If you really are frustrated or want to keep from becoming that
way, it only takes knowing how it works to do that.
Have a super week ...
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2008 19:32
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Tips to handle frustration
These times can bring frustration to anyone. As people struggle to fill their gas tanks and keep food on their tables it can be frustrating to call our leads and hear the bad news stories. Now their are many options on how to get past this problem and here are a few of my ideas.
For some the option is to "outsource" your calls to a call center. For many this is a great option. There are various Coastal groups that do this. As to not pit one against the other I will let you do your own research.
For me the best option is to change your "sales pitch". I have effectively done this in my business. I was frustrated at calling leads and having people love the business but not having the money to get started. So I changed my pitch. I gave them affordable ways to get started. Next I began to show members how to create their own free leads. Not just leads they could get off the internet that had no connection to them but leads that knew them. The results are incredible.
Frustration can either cripple you or make you adapt. I choose to adapt and encourage you all to do the same. The fact that you are here on this forum makes me believe you are the type of person looking to adapt. Remember that in troubled times the most fortunes are made as people become innovative and create better options to help alleviate the pain in the market.
Be sure look over all the postings in the Coastal area of this forum. There are various threads that will give you insight on how to succeed in Coastal
Adam
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2008 12:31
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Hello Again Readers,
Have you ever wondered what it would be like if MacDonalds never
"outsourced" flipping of the burgers to someone else?
How about if Mr. Dodge (real name of the Dodge Brothers) decided
to build all the cars they made .... by themselves?
A smaller example ... what if any business you know of, large or
small, never hired or "farmed out" (outsourced) any of the work
they needed done to complete a product or service they produce?
Right ... they would never have grown to the stature and size
they are today.
Why are you any different?
Check out what it would be like to outsource the job of presenting,
selling, product delivery, customer service in your Coastal business.
It's on the smart thing to do if you want yoru business to grow
beyond the limitations of being a "One Person Show" --- and it
doesn't tak long to find out answers.
Have a great weekend!
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# Posted: 14 Oct 2008 20:11
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Are you still frustrated with the results of your Coastal Business? Many of us have been there ( myself included ). My frustration was the success I was having wasnt translated into success for the majority of my team.
So what was I to do? First I became involved in a variety of other Coastal and travel options. My history is well documented in these forums. But you know what I was still frustrated. While I could see myself having the success I wanted I wasnt sure my team would benefit.
Well I did some reflecting and here is what I can up with.
I discovered you needed a few definites to run your business.
LEADS
No Leads no business. Its that simple. So to create leads I did a few things. I first found as many free sources of leads as I could. I joined a few sites to get free leads and then I began to learn some internet marketing. My thought process is a lead is a lead is a lead. So im an advocate of getting as many leads as possible for as cheap as possible. Now this point has created alot of different thought processes but thats my story and im sticking to what works for me.
I believe that Coastal is the best opportunity on the market and if you get someone on the phone that is looking then you will close a deal. Period. For that reason free leads work for me.
Now to create more targeted leads I do customer appreciation days where I give away a trip to the winner of the contest I promote at the store and collect the names, telephone numbers and email addresses of all the participants. You can collect 100's to 1000's of leads in one day. That should keep you happy and busy for a while.
OPTIONS TO GET PEOPLE STARTED
Let's face it times are hard for many families and $1295 is a big investment for some. How many have prospected someone that loves the business but doesnt have the money. Im not a betting man but id bet 100% of us have. So why not create some options for those without money to get started. I have various options and this program is what works best for me.
I know many of you are really tied to what your upline has shown you but take it from someone that has been on the leadership of a group and has interacted with all the various leaderships what makes your leaders incredible in most cases is their ability to have back-up plans. Of course you should follow your suggested method of operation but why not have a few other options to back them up. Its what all businesses do to stay successful. Ever heard the saying dont put all your eggs in one basket?
I created ways to get good people without the money started and have seen huge success. And even better it has changed the lives of many that wouldnt have been able to otherwise get started.
PRODUCTS TO FALL BACK ON
The one thing ive learned is that if you have a group and you can offer other options to get them involved in you should. The more people interact with you the more apt they are to stick it out with you. In addition it creates multiple streams of income to fund all their businesses. I have a travel agent business as well as an individual travel voucher business. My teammates can get involved with all three of my programs and never lose a customer. It is my trifecta.
So if you are frustrated I hope something I posted helps and as always my door is always open so if you have a question contact me.
Adam
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2008 13:52
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Hello To You Readers!
This just in .... leads for 10� and a way to have the list "cleaned"
for less than a nickel each --- makes for a happy person using
leads.
Of course if you didn't have to call them at all --- that would even
be better, wouldn't it?
If you know where to look .... there are some amazing tools to
be found.
Resourcing and Outsourcing -- to key words to become familiar
with if you want your business to really launch.
Give it a try!
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2008 15:44 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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As a free service to all of those that are looking at Coastal Vacations and those that have been at it but are frustrated I have made it my goal to add as much info to this forum as possible. Not only will I continue to post in this thread but will be posting real solution to the problems many of us have in a thread called Adam's Advantage.
My tip for today in this post is to continue to read the great information many successful directors pour into these threads. In addition contact them and ask your questions. Be sure to be thoughtful of their time and effort but pick their brains. My door ( phone + email ) is always open to anyone that has questions. Ive made it my business to show as many people as possible how to minimize cost, maximize profits and free up that most important commodity...time.
See you on the threads and I look forward to talking with you all and then helping you succeed.
Adam Frederick
Your Success Business Coach
Teaching you how to minimize cost, maximize profits and free up time
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2008 15:22
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Hello Readers!
If you are still "frustrated" with your Coastal business or if you're not
in Coastal but frustrated because whatever you've tried in the past
to make work ... DIDN'T ... then I hope you're reading this now.
First --- is the reason you're frustrated because:
1. YOU loved the product (Coastal or whatever you tried) -- but you
couldn't convince or find anyone ELSE how great it is?
2. YOU believed "You could do it!" -- but everyone you talked with
"thought about it" and decided THEY COULDN'T so they DIDN'T?
3. YOU saw all the money to be made -- but THEY didn't?
4. YOU understand there's MILLIONS AND MILLIONS AND MILLIONS
of people "out there" who could and should do this (Coastal or name
the last one you tried) ... BUT THEY AREN'T?
5. Now you find yourself running out of 1 or more of the THREE
CRITICAL RESOURCES any business has that must be "replenished"
or you GO OUT OF BUSINESS ... TIME - MONEY - EMOTIONAL FUEL
to even want to stay going at it?
There is a cure --- and it's not that easy to find.
It involves MOVING OFFLINE with your marketing / delegating out
the selling -- not because you CAN'T sell --- but because YOU are
only ONE PERSON selling.
What if you had 2 or 3 or 5 people even selling for you and you still
receive the full pay you would have alone?
What if you could reach OFFLINE to 80 people an HOUR ... for just
a few pennys (literally) each ... and you didn't talk to a single one?
I don't know any other way to put this ... but the 'old school' methods
will simply MAKE YOU OLD using them.
Food for thought ....
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# Posted: 8 Nov 2008 17:23
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Great tip. thanks
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