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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 18:45
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Quoting: victorious People need to understand that Coastal is not a get-rich-quick scheme. It is a BUSINESS, so you need to treat it like a business and you will bear good fruits!
AMEN!!!
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 12:00
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Confusion breeds frsutration. As a Coastal member we are hit on every side with various methods to run your business, numerous groups and now word of certain groups starting new programs. The confusion is enough to make your head spin.
As all of this is going on my first thought was to just sit back and take a wait and see approach to everything. By that I mean to just stick my head in the sand and not comment. But I thought better of that idea. Many are confused right now and need guidance. Now im not saying im the authority on all that is going on but ive been involved in various organizations and have been privy in the past to the planning of new programs so I thought my experience might be helpful. Here are my thoughts.
1- Remember that you are in business for yourself. You make the decisions that are best for your own business.
2- Shy away from those that spread rumors and pick sides in these battles. Everyone has an agenda. Whether its good or bad. Have your own agenda. That agenda should be to get the facts.
3- Make a plan for however it ends up. Be ready to act on a new program once it rolls out and you have the facts. Also have a plan if you decide not to join.
Understand that the goal is always to promote a new idea. All of the rumors and back and forth do just that. It creates a buzz. Keep that in mind as you go on. I have decided that im not going to thrash anyone or any new program. Ive learned that all that glitters is not gold and that even when you think you have all the info there is still more to learn.
Take this time to up your efforts in promoting your Coastal business so you can take advantage of the overflow of people that are trying to see what the buzz is all about.
Happy Holidays and remember that Christmas is really about Love. Learn to love your neighbor as you would love yourself. Let's stop all the back and forth bickering and when you address someone with an inquiry address them with the same respect you want to be addressed with.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 24 Dec 2007 11:29
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MERRY CHRISTMAS
Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you all.
God Bless
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 29 Dec 2007 12:31
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I have been sitting back and listening very closely to what has been going on with the CSG. I have been with Coastal since March 2006 and am a former CSG member and level 3 Director.
Nitsa is a strong individual and it is about time that she began marketing her own product. I respect what has been going on with their business. I am happy for her and wish her much success. As you can tell by the structure, pay plan and even the package it's self it is very similar to the Coastal package. This was no mistake. The leaders knew they could sell this product so it was a no brainier to stay along the same lines. They also had grown accustom to the high commission structure and needed something with the same potential. Since the mortgage business they launched 6 months ago is now long gone.
The unfortunate truth is that any strong leaders and successful Coastal reps from the CSG who wish to continue with Coastal will need a new marketing system. That is unless they choose to leave their business behind or at least put it on the back burner. Anyone with any business sense at all, that is making large sums of money in their current Coastal business, does not turn their back on their current income to start over with a new product, new marketing and re-qualifying sales and just hope their team can afford to do the same.
So what does this mean for anyone brought into the CSG in the last 6 months? This means that everything the CSG has hyped up for them, telling them what they can achieve, could and probably does seem to them like a lie. As many great business coaches have said over the years, it is important to focus your efforts in one place until you have mastered these new skills. Once you have mastered your new talent then branch out your efforts to new ventures.
I am sad for these new people for they must be very confused and perhaps a bit afraid of what they have gotten into. I guess this was unavoidable on the CSG's part. Does this make it right? I sure hope not. Does this mean the CSG has your best interest at heart? Or are they hoping that the hype and fluff will get everyone to buy in fast so they can make their money now!
This product has not yet withheld the test of time. So what does that mean in a business that has a 75% - 95% failure rate? How many of you have lost team members because it took to long to qualify them out. Now imagine you are them and you have no income because you took a chance on a new home bases business. What are you going to do if you do not qualify fast enough, or your team refuses to reinvest?
Both Sean and I pride our selves on helping other whether or not it is of any immediate financial gain to us or not.
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# Posted: 29 Dec 2007 12:54
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Aviva,
You are correct in what you are saying. I haven't been able to talk to you but I did talk to Sean and he was very helpful and offering to help me with Coastal even if it did not mean any financial gain to him since I have already purchased a level II package. I appreciate that.
Becky West
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# Posted: 31 Dec 2007 19:40
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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL
It's already better than great for 2008
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 7 Jan 2008 18:50
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Are you a frustrated Coastal Vacations director? If so lets have a talk. From 11am est to 1pm est Monday through Thursday ill be offering my advice for free to anyone for the asking. You can have 15 minutes to go over your business. You all know how to contact me via this forum so before you call send a pm of whats going on and then I can see if I can help you get on the right track. This is only for qualified directors. All associates should call their directors. In 2008 my goal is to make Coastal Vacations the best business opportunity on the market. Ive got some ideas that are going to blow you mind this year.
So I open myself to you all and lets see if we can get anyone that is down on Coastal to be up to their highest potential.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 12:35
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Adam
Are you just redirecting your domain to COA sites? Are you paying for it or not??
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# Posted: 10 Jan 2008 23:37
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Quoting: ateamfuntimer From 11am est to 1pm est Monday through Thursday ill be offering my advice for free to anyone for the asking. You can have 15 minutes to go over your business.
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Bodacious!!!!!!!!!!! Audacious!!!!!!!!!
How many takers did ya have? I can get really nosey eh?
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# Posted: 11 Jan 2008 12:13
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In this day and time its all about adaptation in the network marketing field. How many of you are frustrated with the prospects that you call and the fact they might not be as serious as you had hoped they would be. Its because the market has changed. Each and every day I get 100's of emails from just about every opportunity that you can think of. People are bombarded with calls and emails each day. There are dozens of home based travel opportunities out there and each one says they are the best. Understand that your prospects are on information overload.
The good thing is that Coastal Vacations is one of the best if not the best opportunity on the market. Be sure when you call a prospect to get them thru our information system. Give them the Coastal Training site as well as the Coastal Tools site. Show them the support we have in terms of live events and calls. Then its next. This is a numbers game if the way you are running your business is by buying leads. Understand the mentality of how leads are generated. Most come from the lead providers by way of being given some sort of incentive to give their info. Know that when you get on the phone. Use that knowledge to show them how they will be able to use that same strategy as a member as the will have access to unlimited vacations.
Even better yet generate your own leads. There are many ways to do so. I teach all of my team mates to generate their own leads to lessen their advertising cost. Plus the leads they generate are looking for them. Lead capture pages are extremely effective. You can make a page that talks about you and then the prospect can identify you in the crowd. Ive even started a side business creating pages for people in every kind of home based business.
You can deal with frustration in one of two ways. First you can let it overwhelm you and fade into the abyss or you can adapt to the changing market and strive. I chose to adapt. What do you choose?
I hope everyone is having a great new year and I look forward to talking with you all soon.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2008 11:39
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CHANGE YOUR MINDSET
I was running errands the other day and in a store and waiting in a long line. I was very perturbed ( I wanted to use a different word but that wouldnt be right) and was frustrated at having to wait so long. Just at that moment the store opened 3 other lines. It cut my wait time down to 2 minutes now. I was so happy.
It can be frustrating trying to prospect to leads that dont remember filling in a form or cant be bothered either way. Ive been there before. I suggest creating your own leads. How can you do that?
1- Write articles about Coastal and post them in various forums.
As an expert people will gravitate to you and you will get more targeted leads.
2- Get a unique capture page.
This is the best advice I can give you. Its so important that I began to make my own pages and actually run a business creating lead capture pages for business builders now. Contact me for any questions.
3- Give away vacations
Give to get always works. You can create a great word of mouth campaighn by just giving away vacations.
4- Contact a coach or mentor for some advise
There are many great coaches on the market. Im pretty reasonable in terms of prices as always have deals for other Coastal members.
Frustration can be overcome by creating a plan to deal with adversity. Overcoming adversity creates confidence and where there is confidence all frustration begins to fade.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 26 Feb 2008 10:12 · Edited by: ateamfuntimer
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If you are frustrated in your business then help is on the way. Id first say plug into all the tools readily available. Next reconnect with your director and their upline. Getting to the source always helps. If you dont have a director ( you are what we call an orphan) then give me a call. Ive got a new system for those lost in Coastal.
This business can be run in a simple manner.
1- Get Leads
I offer some free options in my signature lines as well as the same company has some paid options at dailyleadsclub.com I also promote generating your own leads. This can be done various way and I train all the people I work with on how I do just that.
2- Guide them to the info
Whether you have one of the many Coastal sites ( monthly fees) or are looking for a one time fee site ( ive created that option as well) the goal is to get people to see what Coastal is about.
3- Follow -up
This is a key step. This can make or break your business. I am a master at follow up and would ove to teach you my methods.
4- Close the deals and ask for referrals
This is the hardest step for many. When to ask and how to ask is key. You should always be asking for referrals whether they buy or not. If you did a good job connecting then this is a very simple process. Lets talk on how to do this.
Be on the look out for my NEW Coastal Vacations Opportunity Call. The A-Team is back and stronger than ever. I know many of you met me when I used to host the LIve CSG Calls well I got that itch again and have created my own live conference call. There will be tons of great stuff going on as we roll out all that ive been working on in the lab. Be on the look out.
Adam Frederick
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# Posted: 9 Mar 2008 19:10
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Are you tearing your hair out trying to figure out how to get your Coastal business rolling. Ive been successful but have had periods where nothing worked. Ive been there and survived. How you ask? It all about adapting.
The market is always changing. You must change with it. Ive been through the changes that happened in groups and have had now its 4 different websites ( now its 6 as I created my own as not to have to worry about more changes as well as picking up a new association). I continue to adapt my style to fit the changing maketplace. Are you adapting? What migh have worked months ago might not work today but might work again in a few months.
Its important to learn the market trends and hedge your bets. Set up some safeguards. Save for a rainy day so to speak. When I first started I thought a call center was a four-letter word. Now ive added it to my arsenal. I thought internet marketing didnt work. Now most of my business comes from that. I believed buying the highest priced leads was the way to go and learned that I could do just as well with less expensive and even free leads. Im forever tweaking what I do. Some things stay the same. The more people I connect with the better my results. The more positive I stay the more people connect with me as well as the more I learn about the industry the better equipped I am.
Im always learning. Id love to impart that knowledge on any director that is what I call the Coastal Forgetten and help you turn the corner just like I did. My door is always open to anyone looking fo ranswes so lets talk soon.
Adam Frederick
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I have a student that is in Coastal and here is what she does to get a steady supply of leads that beg her to let them join:
1. She has created a SELF BRANDED opt in page that talks about "marketing training" and "not getting left in the dark by your sponsor". 2. She creates video content that let's her market "KNOW, LIKE AND TRUST" her before they are ever propositioned.
3. She has created a social network (name withheld as it's private) that literally hand walks a new person through the start up phase. NOT JUST WORTHLESS AND PRICEY TOOLS. And not a bunch of BS about Google Adwords either. Face it, the large percentage of first time online entrepreneurs are sinking ALL OF THEIR MONEY into the actual opportunity. They cannot afford adwords or buying terrible leads.
4. She has built the community to a point where she has leaders that do the basic training for her.
THE KEY:
5. She gets to say in her content sites and videos "We are the #1 group as far as success rate goes. We may not have the highest earner in our group...but we got the lowest fail rate in our group. We get results...PERIOD!"
STRONG AS IRON.
Hope that helps you guys and girls!!!
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# Posted: 15 Mar 2008 14:15
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Good information. Im glad that people share what it takes to be successful in any business opportunity. Since ive come in this forum that has always been my goal. To share what has frustrated me as well as what as worked for me with Coastal Vacations.
There are many ways to build a business and its not my place to say that another persons way is wrong or isnt the way to go. That is their decision on how they decide to have their operation run. Let me share what I think are some ways to become successful in Coastal Vacations.
LEADS
Leads are the hottest subject in all of Coastal. My take is this. Generate your own and supplement the ones you generate with as many leads as you can afford. I actually get a bunch of free ones that have been working out pretty well for me. I see a lead as a lead as a lead and only as good as the person working it. Couple that with our product being travel everyone is a customer making it easier to bridge the gap. In addition as ive added a new association to my Coastal options and people can get started for about what it takes to fill up an SUV gas tank it really comes dont to if they are seriously looking for a business opportunity. Now let me expand on these points.
Generating your own leads lets the prospect know about you and what you bring as a person to the table. People buy from people they like. That is why the industry of self development is so hot and done so well. The more attractive you become as a person the more people you attract. By learning to create leads by various methods you can drive traffic to you.
Here are some methods I use.
1- Create a lead capture page and offer something useful to people.
I offer leads. Everyone in any network marketing business needs leads. You can find many products on the internet that you can give away for free. Many of these products are very useful. Now as I have these leads ( the people that have fille din their info on my pages to receive their free leads) I direct them to more info about myself and my business. You can do this various ways. Use an auto-responder campaign givng out good info. You can create a campaign that encompasses both information giving as well as promoting you business.
2- I use the social networks
Yuwie, Myspace, Ryze, Apsense as well as all the other great networks as well as forums are amazing places to generate leads. Again people get to know you and you can really network. Our business has an huge advantage over most. Our product is travel and everyone loves travel.
3- Get out in your local area and give away vacations.
If I run into a store or anywhere for that matter in a matter of five minutes ive started a conversation with someone. Invariably the conversation leads to two subjects. People hate their job and arent making enough money or they cant wait to go on vacation. Any bells ringing? This is a perfect feed into our business. Hey I overheard you saying you couldnt wait to go on vacation. How about I give you a vacation just because we live in the same community. Yes I can do that with my business. All I ask is you actually go and get back to me on how you liked it and when you like it tell all your friends. Thats not hard now is it. Then they always ask how much money I can make or doesnt it cost me alot to give away vacations. So my line is well I make from such great commissions that its ok for me to do so. Then I give them a card. I dont stay and answer a bunch of questions. Unless I really feel I have a extra hot prospect. Thats a feeling I get as ive been in B2B sales all my adult life. As a new person or someone that that well versed in face to face sales id suggest trying to get their email and sending them the Coastal Profile. No website. But Adam you said you give them a card. On my card I have my blog website. Which bring me to my next point.
4- Make a blog.
I cant stress how much this has positively affected my business. Why, you ask. You see I used to have upwards of 5 business cards. As you all know I do alot of various businesses. I do web design, we are travel agents, we run a Coastal Business, there is a coaching division of my business , public speaking and training and so much more. Now I have the call center option in my business. So imagine meeting someone and flipping through a ton of different cards. It didnt seem professional. Well now I can put everything on my blog. On my blog people get to know Adam. They see how I market. As the previous poster talked about their client having a marketing page. Well my blog markets me. I can add video. I can change things around. The links to the many forums and traffic exchanges I use are there . Plus I can update it with new info as I post that can be social bookmarked ( im not an expert but have a new member in my free Coastal Option that is teaching me). You see its an all in one page.
My blog is my central location. Now I do have the various Coastal Websites but to be honest what makes me special is being me so why would I want to promote the same site each and everyone of us in a group has. Doesnt make much sense. Plus as I web design why would it make sense to pay monthly for a site I can design myself and own. Imagine combining the two. Having your own site ( making the info about the Coastal Business generic as not to have to update it all the time) and linking it to your paid sites. Ive been creating sites like that recently. You see creating my own blog opened my eyes to the idea of branding myself more. If you dont have a blog get one.
Everything I just talked about are ways to generate targeted leads for your business. I hope the information is useful to anyone frustrated in Coastal. Ive been there myself. Once I had a huge huge team but because of the methods we were all taught to market Coastal many of them had no success. Now as I retail the package and business build I was able to continue to do well but my other teammates havent all had the same success. So I understand the frustration many have. For that reason ive adapted what I do to make it work for all involved.
1- Retailing the package became a focus so I could teach others.
2- Generating my own leads so others could learn and stop the bleeding of payng $500 a month buying them.
3- Finding a back-up plan for those that had a sales learning curve took center stage. So we joined a call center that makes outgoing calls.
As we adapt we create options for the Coastal Forgotten as I call them. The people that believe this business works but dont know how to get it fast tracked. In the upcoming weeks I will continue to share my thoughts on how to help this group. So stay tuned.
Now in the past many have looked at these types of post and said hey he's self promoting and spamming. I disagree. This forum is for the exchanging of ideas and this thread is especially for people in Coastal that dont need to be sold the idea of Coastal but need solutions on how to make it work. I will continue to share ideas and anyone needing any assistance or further clarification can contact me directly. I wish you all the best and lets all make it to the top.
God Bless.
Adam Frederick
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i joined coastal a few month ago my director seems to be never available. i have sent several emails that never get answered (which means all of my questions are unanswered) she has a call once a week which i am on but it is not opened up for ?'s. i found out this morning that she has a new number by looking at one of her websites. i know she does well with this business and she tells everyone if they follow her they will do well also. how can i duplicate what she does and get my 2 training sales if i can't reach her. it is really frustrating for me because i have all day to work my business just feel like when i joined i would have alot of training and one on one help and i don't. twice i have gotten emails from her telling me she would help first one was she would close for me for 6 months for a thousand dollars and the second one was she would do an email campaign for me for five hundred. i have already given her the 1295 to get started and i just feel i will never get to director unless i give her more money for the closing. any suggestions
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# Posted: 19 Mar 2008 09:54
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Madeline3,
I haven't joined Coastal yet, but I will be within the next few days. After doing much research on Coastal, home based businesses, network marketing and MLM, I realize you have to take the initiative to read and understand the training materials. Go to the official Coastal website and follow the training since your director is always so busy. It seems like one of the hardest things to do is train your team when you have so many people. Maybe she has a large team and really doesn't have the time to help anyone. So basically, just don't depend on your director. If you want to make Coastal work for you, go to out and learn things on your own. Thats what I would do!
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Onmyway you bring up a big point. Your business is your business and you have to take the bull by the horns. But.....there is always a but. I have learned in my 3 years with Coastal that not everyone is ready on day one to do that. Many need the guidance and support of a director. Now not every director can support everyone like the new associate would like. That is why you need to hedge your bet a bit.
Recently I joined the Coastal Closing Center just for that reason. Now I have a team to help support my team. It is a way to give my team more support than necessary. Whats better is that as they grow teams their teams have the support as well. Now im not putting down anyone else's method of doing Coastal. I was very successful way b4 I made my decision to go with a call center. I just think it gives another option for anyone looking for support. Just my 2 cents on the matter. I wish you the best onmyway and be sure to pick up as many tips and strategies as you can from this forum ( I recommend Adam's Advantage as a read but im bias).
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Hello I am a very frustrated Coastal rep,and don't think I will be trying to sell it much longer. I came to Coastal back in June 2007. I joined the CSG group because that was the time I saw any thing about Coastal at all. I liked it and wanted to join right away,but had to talk my wife in to it. I let her read about all the money people made and how fast they did it too. So with me being retire and not alot of money to start with we came in as a level one, $1320.00. My Director was a level 3,she was on the CSG Product Education and Retail team as well as the Leadership team, my wife and I felt lucky to have someone like this helping us make money soon remrember..So after about month of reading the scripts over and over we got a e-mail telling to buy some leads from this company. Some of you may know them...........We got the leads $300.00 for 62 leads, was told to call them and read the scrips to them and see if they wanted to get in to Coastal. Well no one did , maybe it was because Idid not know the answers to all of the questions after all she was a level 3 on all of the teams and I just a new level one. So after one more sets of leads and still no sale my wife is not happy. We have $1320.00 for the level one, $150.00 per month a web-site,four months now and two sets of leads at $300.00 each, I tell her not to worry because we were going to make money soon remrember.....I e-mail my Director for some help and some questions, got a e-mail back that said for me to look in my back office for the answers that if I could not fine them to e-mail her for a appointment that she did not have time to hold pepoles hand, she said that sometimes people need a kick in the butt to get moving. I told her that not all people needed a kick ,some people just need a hand. So my happy wife and I left CSG and went to a call center that make the call for you ,how great is this going to be not haveing to call any leads,we were going to make money soon now remrember . It is now Oct.2007 my new Director said that for us to join the call center it would be $1700.00. I don't think I have seen my wife look at me like that before and I don't like the way she is cutting up her supper, but I tell her not to worry because will be makeing money soon remrember...So was told that for the center to call people they need a number,so need to buy more leads from a company with leads made just for the call center I think it was like $120.00 for 25 names. The call center would call me and say these are good leads you may have a sale soon,But no sale ever came so month after month buy more leads for them to call. I had flyer made up and put out on mail boxs had business cards made to give out ,still no sales. So now we are up to about 2 weeks ago Iwas in my back office looking at my leads and the day that my wife and I have been waiting for comes,we get a e-mail from the call center saying we have a sale.......Now my wife is happy Ican let her have a knife for supper again. the e-mail said I would get my money after 3 business days that a web-site was been set up for him right now. So after 5 day and no money and no e-mail telling if something was wrong I e-mailed them to see what was going on. They said they had hit the wrong button that I did not have a sale but for me to keep buying leads,because we were going to make money soon remrember..............Now it April 2008 we use plastic silverware for supper and I sit with my back to the wall..........I think my new Director may be sick or something ,I call her number and the phone rings and rings no answer. I try her web site and are told that both of them are notworking now. So after 10 months Ihope you can see why I am a very frustrated Coastal rep, I don't know where to go from here, maybe my wife is right, maybe we will stop throwing more and more money away after a dream that someday soon we will make money remrember.............
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# Posted: 10 Apr 2008 12:41
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Hi Daddyosb,
I'm not in Coastal, but have been thinking about joining for some time. I've spent a lot of time on sites like this reading the pros and cons about Coastal and other vacation companies I've thought of joining. The one thing that I keep hearing from people is not to buy leads. It sounds like the best way to do make money is to create the leads yourself. Make a youtube video, go all over sites like this and just market yourself, do you have a catchy website or anything to attract prospective people?
I'm not an expert by any means, but that seems to be what I've read on this site from previous posts and for the most part that buying leads isn't really the way to go. Good luck though, I hope things turn around for you!
By the way, what's new in Coastal? I haven't seen much action going on in this room. Does anybody have a link of the packages? I know what they are for the most part, but I heard that they were going to be adding or changing them in I think January. I'm planning on joining in a couple of months and do ALOT of research before I jump in, so I just want to see what the packages look like, or if there are any changes going on in the Coastal world.
Thanks for reading,
Jason
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# Posted: 10 Apr 2008 15:10
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Hello Readers,
You can really sense Tom's frustration, can't you?
The issue of "My Upline is too busy to work with me." is very common
in Coastal Vacations under the "Traditional System" unfortunately.
This was one of the key reasons we started The Coastal Closers in
fact. When your income relies on working with the "new ones" who
still owe you sales and you're pretty good at selling ... it is easy to
become over loaded (you're selling faster than your not-so-good-
at-it people you've sold to).
The solution for us ... start the Call Center.
That being said, we have since day one, told Members what to expect
in terms of "the numbers" when it comes to leads and calling them,
converting to sales ... and the DIFFERENCE between "store bought"
leads and Form Fills off their Member Website with us.
Tom in this case, has been a very good Member with respect to buying
the "store bought" leads available from different sources. Out of
all his leads, without being specific to how many he has, but over
200 and under 250.... all but 11 have had 1 or more contacts.
Out of the total number he's entered into his Back Office (which by
the way, has no monthly cost for his 2 sites, or the office, so it's a good
break from the $150 per month he was spending with COA) that have
been contacted -- about 150 are still in active working status and
have not been "given up" for Tom to try emailing to them to see if
they will ever answer their phone or reply to an email so we can do
something with them.
Since all the leads are there to be seen, the SOLD lead he mentioned
that our Staff person did in fact click the wrong button on the Status
setting first time .. (sorry Tom!) .. but Tom could (or any Member that
this rarely happens to) go into his office, read the notes in the contact
log .. see what the person said and CALL THEM UP to confirm if they
really were not a sale, or what the issue was with them.
So, no .. we can't "steal sales" from anyone.
Base on the numbers ... Tom probably as 1 to 2 sales .. maybe even 3
that will be created out of the current list of leads he's got in the
office for us to work. Anyone of you who has worked leads can already
attest to this fact ... store bought leads are TOUGH.
Current closing rates on them are .5 (yes 1/2 of 1 percent) to about
1 1/2 or 2% .... which is DOWN from 3 years ago when we started.
Back then, they ran 3 to 5%.
What's different? MORE SEEKERS as the world becomes a scarier and
more uncertain place with gas prices, the EURO, housing, banking,
wars, you name it --- driving more people than ever to look for "Plan
B" to build up their security and finances.
That means, more "Window Shoppers" to call through. More people
with less money. AND A MUCH BIGGER OPPORTUNITY for anyone
who knows this and is adapting to change.
To that end, we have implemented some changes already, to make
it easier and better for both our STAFF and our Members.
Now, we no longer require "give up" sales where the Member has to
sacrifice the entire sale ... and at the same time ... we have a new
Pre Stage policy where Members can choose to call and prequalify
leads to make sales happen faster .. and by doing so, they receive
100% of their Qualified Member pay. Or they can choose NOT to do
that and still receive 90% of their Qualified Member pay.
The reasons for these policies are clear. People need to make money
NOW .. not later these days. And Staff needs to be paid for the
extra dialing it takes to call through this new breed of lead that
we have seen coming in... the "I won't answer my phone until..."
people and frankly .. the ones hoping "It's FREE AND I'll make millions".
Business success is based on business responding to reality.
We do, have since day one, and we work at it every day.
If you have questions.... Adam, me, our Staff can certainly answer
them -- then you can make your own decisions about what it takes
and how you want to grow your own business.
Thanks for your time .... have a super week.
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JasonP: Does anybody have a link of the packages?
Sure! Here you go:
www.officialcoastaltraining.com/NewOverview.pdf
They asked us to wait 2 weeks before we sent in for the new stuff - we can send for it on Monday!
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# Posted: 10 Apr 2008 19:06
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Thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for!
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You are welcome! 
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Lora,
I checked out your site and everything and even listened to the Q & A call.... are the Wealth Builders part of a call center? Or what exactly is the group all about? I really want to join at the Platinum level and that won't be happening for awhile, but I still want to get as much info as I can. Any info would be great, thanks.
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JasonP: really want to join at the Platinum level and that won't be happening for awhile
...........
Jason - that makes sense - kinda. Yes at L3 you can be more profitable. HOWEVER, what income are you missing out on in the meantime - if you come in a a lower level?
If you miss out on $10,000 waiting until you can join at L3 - so you can make "X" per deal - does that make a lot of sense? You can always upgrade at any time.
And by the way, Lora is about as a good director as you could ever hope for to get you going on your way to profit.
Jump off the fence - get in the game man. You have nothing to lose but a bunch of bucks.
Jason - do you know the difference between a rut and a grave? A rut is just longer and deeper. Make the jump - dive into life - start living your dream instead of just dreaming - make it happen.
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Hi Jason,
While you're thinking through your options, you asked about
Wealth Builders Group.
That opens the question regarding any groups out there.
There's two distinct differences.
1. Groups where you make all your own sales on your own.
2. Groups where your sales are made for you, or with you.
Of the groups that make sales for you, there's two types.
1. You must make your prospects call them.
2. They will call your prospects.
Taking nothing away from any group or Directors and looking
only from a business stand point, let me illustrate it this way.
You own a burger stand.
You flip all your own burgers .... or you have "people" doing that
so you can go out and make more burger stands.
Which will grow you the bigger business.
Then, there are start up options, which you've mentioned.
"I want to start at Platinum Level." --- worthy goal.
What if one of these groups would make you Platinum, no matter
where you start at initially?
Food for thought ... holler if you have questions.
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closerjim: What if one of these groups would make you Platinum, no matter where you start at initially?
.............
You may want to expand on that a bit. I think I know what you are talking about - but I have a rough idea of how you do things - seems a bit unclear for those not familiar with your group.
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Hi Bob,
Yes ... here is how it can work.
We just implemented a "you don't give up the entire sale" policy
now, which means you are paid on sales made even when you
are not qualified out yet.
And along with that, you can be "Pushed" to a higher level ... all
the way up to Level 3 ... even though you didn't start there.
So, why not get paid along the way and become L3, even though
you didn't start there due to limited start up funds?
Not exploring all your avenues of success, guarantees you will miss
them when they come along.
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I was slow on the trigger on this one. In the past week a new approach to Coastal Vacations has arisen. Imagine getting started and making money right from the start. One of the biggest obstacles and points that people use to discourage members from joining Coastal is the 2up system. If I had $1 for each time that I have heard someone talk negatively about 2up system I'd never have to prospect ever again.
In the last week I have seen a group become very innovative in their approach to marketing Coastal. From the start a new prospect can earn money right away on their very first sale. Now that is a huge plus. After putting enough money aside to get started , then buying leads, then paying for you monthly fee for your websites [btw the group im talking about has no website fees unless you join as a marketing associate ($69.95 to start and then $49.95 until you make your first sale then the site is free) ] many are looking for a break on the strain to their bank accounts. Not to mention you don't have to make all the calls to your prospects yourself.
In Coastal Vacations changes happen all the time. Most of the time the changes that come don't excite me. This change does. As a team leader or even a member that is either successful in marketing Coastal the traditional way or even if you are struggling this is a major asset to add to your arsenal. Here is why.
1- Having a call center adds another profit center to your business.
Let me explain this. You spend 3 hours a day making calls. Now add the fact you have a center making calls for you. That creates more worked hours a day in your business. You might want to take a day off and now you still have a staff making calls for you.
2- New prospects and associates make money from the start.
This is huge. Make money on your first sale. What a point to bring out to a new prospect or an associate. This is a huge win - win proposition. Everyone wins. This excites me a bunch.
Now at this point I bet there are a bunch of questions on how this works. At the very least it has turned a few eyebrows. What's even better is you don't have to stop doing Coastal your traditional way. I have three options for anyone I talk to Coastal about. First they can get started for free. In that scenario they must do their own marketing and then receive a commission on any sale they create. I do count those sales towards them getting a directors release and after their 3rd sale I even buy them a level one package. So they are now level one qualified. The next option is with the traditional Coastal model. I don't think I need to go into detail with how that works. Now the option im most excited about is my call center option. Here is why. People can get started for as low as $69.95, they can have a professional sales force close deals for them, members can make money on their first sales and after getting started the member doesn't have any cost other than their advertising ( no website fees ). I call it my Coastal Trifecta.
As a new prospect or a Coastal Associate or a Coastal Director you thought should be what does this mean to me. Are these options going to make my business better? My answer is a resounding yes. If you feel the same then I think it's important we have a conversation to go over your thoughts. You know the drill so lets talk.
Adam Frederick
Internet Entrepreneur and Coach
302 613 4632
[email protected]
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