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WealthyWAHM
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Quoting: loraug I've been looking at the PAS program, and am slightly confused. I'd appreciate any help that the experienced PAS members here could offer.
If you pay almost $4000 for this program, and then additional monthly of at least $190, and then you have to spend more time and money to do your own marketing because the system is not delivering as expected, what is it exactly that you're getting for all the money you've spent?
Why would anyone want to invest so much cash for a marketing program that's supposed to effectively market for you, and then when it doesn't, spend even more money and effort to market that program?
What am I not getting here?
Thanks for any help!
Hi Laurog,
Honestly, it all comes down to personal preference.
There is no denying that those that advertise on their own should see more sales and a faster turn around. The ad packs that can be purchased don't get your site seen 24-7, your own advertising does and more exposure=more optins=more callbacks= more sales.
By running my own advertising, I'm only taking out one piece of the PAS puzzle- I still have a team of professionals willing to make my phone calls and close my sales for me and the ability to advertise my other businesses in one, high traffic location.
Since that takes care of my two biggest pitfalls in business, PAS is the perfect answer for me.
I also want to mention that the ad packs are not mandatory- your post seemd to inply that you thought they were, so I just wanted to clear up any confusion there.
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barefootmentor
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2006 20:38 · Edited by: barefootmentor
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Actually if you break down the $3895 to come in at the top level of PAS it's not that bad... You get a software license and use of the team leaders to follow up your sales for you for 3 years.
That works out to a little over $100 a month spread over 3 yrs.
How many other business models do you know that put you on a $100 auto ship of their product or service. With PAS it's paid in one lump sum. Personally I'm not a big fan of auto ship... to me this is so much simpler and makes it possible to have great cash flow.
As for the Ad pac's this is a great way to take advantage of coporate business rates for the small work at home business. I guess it all on how you look at things.
Is your glass half full or half empty?
PAS has given me the time freedom to train people how to market online using low cost or no cost marketing strategies. If you look at a home busines long term and diversify growing multiple income streams you will have a much more stable business.
That's exactly what PAS does markets your other programs helping you diversify your income. I don't know about you but I would rather have $10 dollars from 10 people than $100 from 1 person. This way if something happens to one income stream you still have 9 others to fall back on.
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hollyb25
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2006 15:47
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I think now is the best time for people to join Prosperity Automated System because of what was announced in the corporate update just released today:
PAS ON TV !
The shoot date for my TV interview on PAS should be in
mid August. We are looking at either the 15th or 16th
right now. Then, we can expect the 5 minute interview
to air on CNN and Discovery in 50 key markets in the US,
likely starting in mid September. This is ideal timing,
as this is the beginning of the hottest time of the year
for businesses such as ours! I will distribute more detailed
information as soon as this is available. All inquiries
from this campaign will be distributed to Adpak purchasers!
Those joining in the next few weeks will have a chance to get their site set up and ready for the incredible amount of targeted traffic that will be sent throught the adpaks.
I cannot even imagine making more money with PAS than I am now but I am really excited for the new members who have and are joining under me.
We have several simple website techniques that are making the adpaks much more effective and I finally completed my cheat sheet so I can send it to them as soon as their site is live.
August is off to a quick start, I had a Premium Sale on the 1st and two more in process. It is awesome to make more than my previous monthly wage at the bank before the 2nd day of the month!
I know many of my members are also closing sales this week. Congratulations to all of us!
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Bridget
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# Posted: 4 Aug 2006 12:57
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Hi all I am new to this board. I am a member of PAS for a few months and I am so excited about the TV interview. It is going to mean great things for all of us.
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iconenterprises
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2006 11:46
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Here's an update regarding Ad Packs and their performance (or lack thereof):
From January '06 through May '06, I had 3 Ad Packs going. Result: 1 sale in March
I've since reduced that down to 2 Ad Packs (June '06 until the present).
The number of Visitors to my PAS Website averaged about 15.5 per day in July.
That number has fallen to 9 per day. $380 worth of Ad Packs per month are producting 9 hits per day (and no callbacks since June).
The last two figures (15.5/day & 9/day) represent performance after the new radio ads began.
It seems (although I cannot verify this as an absolute truth) that those who are finding success in PAS are doing so via other methods (i.e. not via Ad Packs).
If you are utilizing Ad Packs, please post your results (thus far) here so we can collect a consensus of their overall performance.
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hollyb25
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# Posted: 8 Aug 2006 15:05
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Unfortunately, PAS did take some of the passiveness out of the adpaks by changing the policy from a sale belonging to the member whose site was first visited to where the first 'Contact Us' form is submitted.
I have found a few website techniques that seem to be helping in making sure that those who come to my PAS site through an adpak come back to me when they are ready to purchase or even submit a 'Contact Us' form before they ever leave my site.
They are just simple changes you can make in your back office but they are making a huge difference in the number of sales I am closing.
I just completed step by step directions that I send to all of my new members so they can set up their site in an hour or so and be ready to take advantage of the free adpak with purchase.
One lady had three callback requests in her first week and two are seriously thinking about joining. Now I know, that is probably not going to be the norm but I was very pleased.
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# Posted: 14 Aug 2006 18:27
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Here is an inspiring story about Prosperity Automated System, PAS Adpaks
I had a new member, Bryant, join my team last week and his site became active either late Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning. At 4:00 Wednesday afternoon Bryant had a call back request submitted from his site and the team leader immediately contacted the prospect.
Thursday morning Bryant emailed me about the callback and couldn't believe it had happened because he had not even done anything with his site. Although I was a little surprised myself, I told him that PAS is passive from the minute the site goes live...even though I do not recommend that my members rely on the adpaks.
I offered to follow up with his prospect and he said he would appreciate it and so I called the prospect.
He is a very neat guy, married with two children. He heard the ad for PAS on Sirius Satellite Radio and visited the website when he got home; it just so happened to be my new member's turn in the rotation.
The adpaks do work and so does the system. I also followed up with another member's prospect yesterday and had a good conversation. I believe both were interested in PAS before I called but seemed very interested after I visited with them and they realized I was just a wife and mom making great money with PAS. People like to hear from people.
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Happy
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# Posted: 30 Aug 2006 14:20
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Does anyone know how the adpaks work? What do you get for $199. I know it drive leads to your site...but how many leads will be pushed to your site for $199? How many adpaks do you have to purchase each month to be successful?
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hollyb25
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# Posted: 1 Sep 2006 18:04
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Quoting: Happy Does anyone know how the adpaks work? What do you get for $199. I know it drive leads to your site...but how many leads will be pushed to your site for $199? How many adpaks do you have to purchase each month to be successful?
The adpacks are averaging me 4-10 leads a day from people who have heard about PAS on Sirius and XM Satellite Radio, FM stations nationwide, ads in major financial publications such as Money, Entrepreneur, Wall Street Journal, and Internet advertising campaigns targeted at individuals with disposable income.
The first ad-pack is included in your purchase price which means you will have 150-300 people who have never been to any other affiliate program website visit your PAS before your first month is up.
Bill Osterhout recently announced that he will also be on several FM talk shows which each have 14 million plus listeners a day and is in talks with major networks such as CBS. This will be huge because we will be reaching people before they even consider looking for a home based business and all leads are directed to our sites through the adpaks.
I personally only run 1 per month and then do additional advertising on my own but I will probably consider buying more when the interview airs. Three of my members had call backs placed in the last week from adpak visitors.
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WealthyWAHM
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# Posted: 2 Sep 2006 16:17
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Quoting: hollyb25 The adpacks are averaging me 4-10 leads a day from people who have heard about PAS on Sirius and XM Satellite Radio, FM stations nationwide, ads in major financial publications such as Money, Entrepreneur, Wall Street Journal, and Internet advertising campaigns targeted at individuals with disposable income.
The first ad-pack is included in your purchase price which means you will have 150-300 people who have never been to any other affiliate program website visit your PAS before your first month is up.
Bill Osterhout recently announced that he will also be on several FM talk shows which each have 14 million plus listeners a day and is in talks with major networks such as CBS. This will be huge because we will be reaching people before they even consider looking for a home based business and all leads are directed to our sites through the adpaks.
I personally only run 1 per month and then do additional advertising on my own but I will probably consider buying more when the interview airs. Three of my members had call backs placed in the last week from adpak visitors.
Holly, I hope you are not insulted by this post, because I do have full respect for you as a PAS leader (and I think you know that, as I have mentioned it to you before), but I feel that your comments here about the ad packs may be a bit deceptive...
When you speak of "4-10 leads a day" from the ad packs, I think you should have mentioned that there is a big difference between "visits" and "opt-ins". "Visits" just means that that many people have looked at your doorway page, and I am sure that that is what you are referring to... That doesn't mean they took the initiative to enter their name and email address to actually take a look at your website. An "opt-in" is a person that took that initiative to enter their info and take a look.
I can guarantee that those 4-10 people that you mentioned did not opt in. In fact, I would venture to say that only about 5-10% of those people that viewed your doorway page actually did so OFF THE AD PACK, since that seems to be the ratio that my "passive" members have been finding for their monthly ad pack purchase.
The truth is that the ad packs do not work THAT well... If one intends to join PAS, they had better be prepared to do some additional advertising, free, low-cost, or otherwise, to help make up for it, or they should not hold their expectations that high in terms of when they will be qualified and start making their own profit.
My stating this is in NO WAY my way of putting PAS down, I happen to love the business- I wouldn't be part of it if I didn't. I don't, however, like to see people mislead as to how well the ad packs work and neither should you.
Let me bring up a personal point for you, Holly... And again, I hope you are not offended by this, but I am trying to prove a simple point... I believe I read a post by you on one of the forums where you stated that you joined in January, yet you did not get qualified until May. My guess is that the reason for that is that you did not run any additional advertising at that time, only ad packs, so I would think that you would be just as cautious as me in claims about how well the ad packs work...
Another comment that I wanted to make is in reference to the callbacks that your 3 members got off ad packs last week. Did you happen to ask them which website those callbacks came from? And are these folks new members? I only ask because several of my members, when they first start out, get 1-2 callbacks right off the bat that come through the MegaWealthy website, though they are not advertising that website in any way... I think it is MegaWealthy's way of testing the new site?? I haven't actually spoken with any of the "higher ups" on that particular subject to find out if that is for certain, but I have found that next to none of those first callbacks actually stay active in my member's back office- they are immediately rendered inactive, without follow-up.
I will, however, reiterate your comment about the upcoming advertising efforts for the ad packs. I do think that those will be extrememly beneficial to the quality of the ad packs and definitely look forward to it!
In the meantime, I am actually starting some co-op advertising for my group. I have reached my overall goal of 50 paylines and have decided that it is time to switch to team based promotion instead of personal which will give those that aren't proficient in alternative advertising methods a lower cost, more pin pointed, form of advertising to turn to. My advertising has worked for me, so it should work just as well for them!
Once again, my apologies if you take offense to this post, that certainly wasn't my intention...
Regards,
Christy
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2006 22:18
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I have a great business opportunity for the succesful PAS people who make tons of money already :
If you pay for me the 4K (more or less) to start and the 190$ a month to promote the business, I'll soon have earnings of 10 to 20K a month, right ?
Well, as soon as 20K of earnings is reached, I'll pay you back 12K in cash AND three times the promotion money you spent for me, which means you triple your initial investment in a few weeks. If my 'sponsor' is a lady, I'll add a giant bouquet of flowers.
Oh, and to make sure I keep my word, we will put this in a legal contract.
How does that sound ? Of course, as soon as I am making big money I'm planning to pay the starting cost for two or three people a month under the same conditions.
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barefootmentor
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2006 16:30
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Hi thinker.. boy you are thinking all right .. I think most people call that gifting. Nothing against people who are into that... (personally I'm not) You have to realize PAS is a great automated marketing system that markets your primary business.
How are you going to double the sign-ups into my primary business like PAS has done for me?
Actually there is a new kid on the block when it comes to automated marketing systems. I'm going to be doing a comparsion of these marketing systems in my online conferencing room next week. I think lots of eyes will be opened during this conference.
You are welcome to join us and get the real story behind these automated marketing systems.
Cindy McAsey
P.S. Just do a google search on me... you will find I know what I'm talking about.
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 03:05 · Edited by: thinker77
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Gifting ? My proposition is to give you more than 1000 % return on your investment and if I have to believe all the people who want me to sign up with PAS, this return could be in one or two weeks.
This is business, not gifting.
Of course, my post is tongue-in-cheek. I think (thinker, what do you expect) it is hard to believe in all those euphoric testimonials : you
pay 3 or 4K and all of a sudden a fortune is made for you while you sleep. The system does it all for you.
I have been looking around a bit on the internet to find a way to make an additional income. I am astonished when I see how many scams are around and how many people get ripped off. Off course I was scammed a few times too. My mistake is thinking (again) that others are honest. Maybe my parents brought me up with the wrong values, being honest seems to be old fashioned nowadays.
That's why I wrote this post : If someone is so convinced he/she can let a system make 20, 30K and more a month for me, then he/she should prove it to me. And I'm willing to reward him big time by returning him more than 11 times his/her investment. (details in another part of this forum 'identifying work at home scams' or something like that).
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barefootmentor
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# Posted: 9 Sep 2006 23:18
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I didn't say anyting about you joining PAS that is totally up to you... and what you want to use as a marketing strategy to earn that additional income that you say you want.
I personally think being successful in your own business has a lot to do with mindset and creating a routine in your business. Way to many folks spend all their time searching jumping into every new deal out there and if they would just put the blinders on once they find something that is a stable reliable business they would be so much better off.
Remember PAS is just a marketing system... if you are looking for a honest business that has stood the test of time my primary business is what you should check out. The company is celebrating it's 50th year in business.
Cindy McAsey
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cowgirlkendra
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 02:14
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How does the money get reported to the IRS? Do you report the money under your business license, or ... ?
Thanks in advance for your help!
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WealthyWAHM
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 06:52
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Quoting: cowgirlkendra How does the money get reported to the IRS? Do you report the money under your business license, or ... ?
Thanks in advance for your help!
We are responsible for deciding how to proceed with our own tax filing per the representative agreement:
"I am responsible for the payment of all federal and state self-employment taxes and any other tax required under any federal, state or regulatory taxing agency."
This makes sense since we receive payments directly from buyers and the company is paid second hand.
Hope that helps...
Christy
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 15:58
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Quoting: thinker77 ree people a month under the same conditions.
What kind of proposal is that thinker77 ?
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hollyb25
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2006 17:02
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I am sure many of you have heard of SSS but maybe have not realized how much it can really increase your earnings from PAS.
I am always looking for a way to capture email addresses of people genuinely interested in PAS so I can continue build my downline and SSS has been a great tool for this. Below is an email I sent out to my prospects about SSS and thought many of you could benefit from it.
Hello,
SSS, has been an incredible tool for those who are either already members of Prosperity Automated System and/or Coastal Vacations or who are looking for a less expensive way of obtaining a Premier Level of one or both of these business opportunities.
See the final paragraph of this email to learn why joining Success Synergy Systems by Sept. 14 is very important.
If the high costs of PAS and Coastal have you down:
- For a one time fee of $175 you are well on your way to obtaining a Premier Level of PAS and Coastal.
- You will earn generous income along the way.
- All you have to do is get people to your site to take the tour.
- SSS' contact center will then call ALL of your prospects for you and follow up with emails until they enroll.
- There are thousands who have been waiting for a low cost way to join the high priced programs and now you can help them by helping yourself.
If you want more PAS or Coastal Prospects:
As a current PAS/Coastal member, your main purpose of joining SSS will not be for the memberships to either of the programs but as a way of not losing PAS/Coastal prospects who simply cannot afford to purchase those programs outright. You can place them in SSS and help them fill their levels while creating reoccurring income for yourself. This offers them a low cost option and also continues to pay you when you cycle.
But, it gets even better...
Since you are already in PAS/Coastal, you will be rebated the Premier Level purchase prices, (i.e. $3895.00 for PAS) unless you want an additional PAS/Coastal site. SSS follows the same one and two up policies of PAS and Coastal respectively, after that, everyone who works their way through will be placed directly under you in Coastal and PAS. So they will not only have to give you their one and two ups from SSS but also in Coastal and PAS since they are just brought in at the Premier level but still have to qualify. THIS IS HUGE because now by simply placing SSS on your PAS site you have not lost that person who could not afford PAS but have instead added them as another PAS pay line (or chair at your table) by allowing them to work their way in.
If you are qualified in PAS read this:
Once someone joins SSS who is not already a PAS member, we highly suggest they take a look at the PAS associate level.
Although PAS has not changed the wording on this page they have changed what associates receive coming in at $49.95. Although they must pass up their first three Premier sales, they receive everything the Premium level members do in exception to the first free adpak. This means they will have a PAS site to set up with their other programs including SSS and can purchase adpaks for $190 which is a great way to build their SSS business as well as a marketing list. This gives them two low cost options to promote side by side and see which one earns them a Premier Level of PAS quicker. Plus, in the meantime, THEY COULD BE PASSING UP 3 SALES TO YOU!
SSS is very beneficial because (as I am sure you know) there are so many people to market to who want to join PAS but can't or won't pay the $3895 the other nice thing is that you can easily advertise both PAS and SSS together and let them choose which way to go.
If you are interested in joining SSS or at least learning more:
Not only are we the top SSS team, but we are the only team to offer live informational and Q & A calls twice a week. This Thursday evening, we will have the founders of SSS (WHO ARE PAS MEMBERS AS WELL) hosting a special live training call. They will provide our team with everything you need to know to fully take advantage of the opportunity provided by SSS.
To upgrade to one of the paid levels and be included in what I truly believe will become bigger than PAS and/or Coastal because it is so appealing to both those already active and those who want to be, please visit my PAS site and see the ad on the left.
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2006 00:17
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Cowgirlkendra,
Hey I like that username.. I assume you ride horses too.. or just like that lifestyle. I just had to pop in when I saw your username.
Yes you are in business for yourself that means you are responsible for all taxes. Gosh though it's a nice feeling to have that kind of control over your finances..
I've had my own busines for over 10 years and have learned the ropes when it comes to what you can deduct as a business expense. I have a great training recorded that explain's about deductions you can take for business. Let me know if you would like a copy and I'll get it to you.
Cindy McAsey
888.272.6701
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2006 01:21
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Amazing,.... P.A.S. is a really good business opportunity. Problem with PAS is that there aren't a lot of folks with the amount of money needed to get in, and then keep it going with the $199.00 adpacks you have to buy per month, that's why I got into the company I have a web site for. You would be surprised to see what it is doing and how fast you can make enough money to get yourself into PAS if you want. I will be getting into P.A.S. real soon and it's other peoples money that I will be using and not all of my own.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2006 23:23
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Hi all,
My name is Reuben, I have been a PAS member since January this year and I have made a huge mistake.
After paying $3,895 for the PAS Premier Package, I found myself struggling with PAS and watched many others have a similar struggle or no success at all.
I have recently been introduced to the ultimate marketing system. With this system, you are able to broadcast a recorded add to 5,000 phones in 30 minutes, basically anywhere in the world. You can even get the voice broadcast done professionally for a small fee.
If you choose to promote the system itself, you will earn a commission of $6,000.
This system is fairly new and still has a lot of boom to come.
The great thing about this system is that is an ACTUAL PRODUCT!
You do not have to sell it, you can simply use it's awesome powers to promote your current online business or even your offline business. The potential for this system is unlimited. You also get over 1.5million phone/email leads.
I have introduced many of my PAS opt-ins to this system and many have joined. After earning $6,000 you basically get a free entry to PAS Premier, or just spend the money on a nice trip with a loved one!
To find out more, click here: [Link removed - Admin]
Please feel free to contact me anytime at [email protected] or on my cell in Australia, 61 437 990 815
Kind Regards,
Reuben
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thinker77
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2006 02:14
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cost123 :" Quoting: thinker77
....three people a month under the same conditions.
What kind of proposal is that thinker77 ?"
Very easy, Cost123. If one of the PAS-people sponsors me the way
I suggest (and getting the invested money back more than 11 times after a few weeks), I will sponsor two or three people a month the same way they did with me, creating a gigantic downline for me and my sponsor (and making some 30K extra a month on my 1st line downline). Of course, a part of the extra money that comes in will also be used to help the start of second and third etc downliners. So I could be sponsoring 10 or more a month...all people who cannot afford to start now but whom I help starting. As soon as they make the big bucks, they will do the same with others because it will make them a fortune. This will be an exploding downline. Omg, I love math
Call it ' the PAS squared system ' : sponsoring three a month who sponsor three a month who sponsor three a month.... and on everyone whose's start you help financing, you make 11 times your investment....and this e v e r y month, wow. Twelve months = 36 downliners a year in your first line, who sponsor and sponsor...
A quick calculation means after a year or two you'll have at least 20 or 30 million downliners...(grin) Bill Gates will look like a beggar compared to me.
BTW : how did those google ads got added to my previous post ? Who put them there ?
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2006 02:36
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Quoting: thinker77 BTW : how did those google ads got added to my previous post ? Who put them there ?
By the owner of this forum. It's not added to your post, but to all first posts of a topic.
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2006 10:13
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OK Vishal, thanks for the info, I didn't know what happened.
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cowgirlkendra
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2006 01:42
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Hi Everybody,
What, exactly, is an AdPack? Can someone please explain this tool to me in some sort of specific manner?
Thanks!
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Kandace
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2006 14:53
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When you buy an adpack, PAS will promote your site for you with PPC advertising and other offline advertising. The main idea is that for each adpack you buy more traffic will be driven to your site.
I have stopped purchasing adpacks. I know people who have been successful using them, but I didn't get very good results.
Let me know if that answers your question.
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wendy27
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2006 02:40
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I really like the idea of PAS and wanted to be part of the team but the huge initial $ to join is a problem for me. Thank God there is SSS .. It is a way to make your dream comes true if you haven't got enough money to join up with PAS.
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dreambuildersco
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2006 17:22
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HI Everyone.. Can anyone answer a question for me? If you are already a member of PAS, would it still be beneficial to join SSS for future members? Is there a cost involved with SSS if you are already a member of PAS? Thank you!!
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WealthyWAHM
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2006 22:08
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Quoting: dreambuildersco HI Everyone.. Can anyone answer a question for me? If you are already a member of PAS, would it still be beneficial to join SSS for future members? Is there a cost involved with SSS if you are already a member of PAS? Thank you!!
I joined after already being a member of both PAS and Coastal! I think that SSS is a pretty decent downline builder and I was concerned about building for my current PAS members, more than myself....
The one drawback to SSS is that it will take a good deal of time to progress all the way through... It is something that will need steady, persistant building.
Yes, you would have to pay the same $175 fee that everyone else does, but when you cycle out of the 6th level, you would be reimbursed the fee to join PAS (since you are already a member). Non-members do not have that option..... when they cycle, they are forced to join Coastal and PAS.
Last comment- there is talk now that SSS may replace the PAS level with another business, depending on the outcome of the SEC investigation and what the business model looks like after the changeover.
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