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Bhavesh
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2009 11:27
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I have often heard several saying they are doing great with Thrive or its affiliates yet when asked to produce the bank statements of proof it is never done. Anyone can say I am doing great, without proof you are nothing more than a stoolie for Thrive. Someone on here showed a site that sold fake guns it wasn't even in the top 25 pages of Google and there were no sponsor links of that site ad. Also, the company was listed in Utah... how you could be making any money is very questionable.
If Thrive is so great of a company why is it unable to return the money to these people and satisfy its clients? Everyday someone new shows up stating they were ripped off. Thrive can pay off ripoffrepot.com and even the BBB of Utah but they seem to have trouble paying back the money to the people who really matter the most their unhappy customers. So until someone shows the bank statements showing proof of just how much you are making each and every month for a year stay out of our way as you are nothing more than a stoolie!!
Need Help getting your money back!! e-mail [email protected]

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 08:55
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Bhavesh,

A couple of good points.

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 16:48
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Thrive Learning is another Utah Internet scam. Owned by Colton Moody and staffed by Mark Rasmussen, and Zach Bradshaw, this new company supports over 20 different varieties of training, but has the same common denominator - they oversell and under-deliver.

There are several forum posts about them. Best is to check out ripoffreports.com and get the actual data for yourself.

I was scammed for over $6,000 and have been nearly 8 months working to get a refund. I learned nothing from their training and found out that I could have gotten all this data for free.

Do you homework - don't listen to the shills and the bitter complainers. Decide for yourself. See if you can find an actual set of profitable websites and ask the owner how long it took to make their money back.

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 16:51
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Got a call about 2 hours ago from Tina at Thrive. Glad I took the time to do a little research. I want to thank all you who posted your experiences with this outfit. You saved me time, money, and heartache. I just left a message for Tina that I was not interested in their offer and to please not call me back. I should be so lucky. Thanks again

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 22:09
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Phew....glad I came on here! Thrive Learning "found" me when I bought a $1.98 CD from Google treasure chest. Before I even got the cd, they had talked me into my credit card number....get this, for 11,350!!!!! That was this morning. I got the cd this afternoon. Came on here, called my credit card, had them REMOVE the charge and cancel the card. I have yet to reply to their agreement....Ive read here they will try to get %15? I cant find that anywhere....Should I just ignore the contract? Or send it back replying No thanks? Here the WORST WORST part! They asked me why I moved recently.....I was honest and said it was because my 15 year old son committed suicide and I needed to move. I also said I needed to make money to buy his headstone...they were SO sympathetic and now what! how DARE they!

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 22:23
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I just found this website. How I wish I'd have found it before I turned over $15k to Thrive, not to mention the wasted money to the Tax Club. I've been taken for approx $25k. I will gladly join your class action suit. Please send me the questionnaire. I did send you an email separately. Please stay away from Thrive!!!!!

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# Posted: 16 Apr 2009 22:29
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I tried to email you regarding the class action suit and the msg came back. Is the email no longer valid?

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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 19:07
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Not as stupid as me. My condolences on the death of your son.

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# Posted: 17 Apr 2009 21:31
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Hi Mama Gib,
That e-mail address is accurate and is working. I am not sure why you are having trouble sending to it [[email protected]][email protected] [/url]Someone new just sent me something so I know it is active and working. Let me know if you still have problems.

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# Posted: 19 Apr 2009 17:36
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Hello!! To everyone out there commenting about Thrive and sharing there stories. I'm new to this forum. I was also scammed by Thrive, aka Momentum and Summit Group for better than $13,000. I can't beleive this company gets away with it's questionable practices. I am in the process of fighting for my money back. Anyone who is thinking about doing business with this company- STAY AWAY!!!! You will get burned. I will share my progress as I move forward. I think the best thing that could happen to this company is a huge lawsuit. Any help or advice that any of you can offer would be appreciated?

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# Posted: 20 Apr 2009 23:43
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I'm sorry to read about every one's stories on this message board. Below is a link to an article written about the "coaching industry." The article mentions Thrive Learning Institute and does a pretty good job of exposing this industry for what it really is....A SCAM!

http://www.cityweekly.net/utah/article-7772-called-into-question.html

You will see, this article raises some disturbing questions. Although I don't live in Utah, I spent a few years back going to school out there. I still have several old college buddies that are sales agents in that industry. They all make great money, but I never understood how they justified what they did for a living. My former college roommate once told me that 99.99% of the people working in this industry know they are dishonest, but they justify their actions, business models, sales practices etc. because "the money is too good." He even admitted to me that companies prey on naive, inexperienced, and desperate people. I'll just say, the more I learned about the "coaching industry" the more I lost respect for these old friends.

After stumbling across the article above, I started digging around and found more out about Thrive Learning Institute, it's owners, partner companies, etc. I thought I would try to track down some personal contact info, so people could go straight to the source for a refund. Maybe if enough people call, the scammers will start to listen. So, here it is...Here's some contact information for a few of the main principals of Thrive/Summit Group/Momentum Marketing. I called a few of my old buddies in the "industry" and apparently based on reputation, these guys are scum. Based on what I read on this message board, it appears I've received accurate information.

These guys apparently all have ownership in the company and are "decision makers" according to my sources. FYI..Colton Moody and Erik Largin also are the main owners of The Summit Group (renamed "Momentum Marketing") a notorious Utah call center. I'm told they partnered with the Rasmussen brothers after they were fired from a previous coaching company with a similarly poor reputation. Not sure what they did, but apparently, it was more sketchy than just ripping people off. Whatever that means??? Anyways,

Good luck with your refunds! I'm sure everyone would love to hear your experience.

Matthew Rasmussen- 801-787-3979 (cell)
David Rasmussen- 801-735-3909 (cell)
Colton Moody- 801-310-1067 (cell)
Erik Largin- 801-492-0714 ext. 1062 (work) sorry no cell...i tried

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# Posted: 23 Apr 2009 21:28
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Well, I have to say the above mentioned article about Utah's call centers is very interesting. Going thru this experience has taught me a good lesson. If there is a business opportunity or a purchase to make, do your homework first. The amount of information at our fingertips on the internet is invaluable.
On the individual company web site, everything sounds so great. Then when you look for other opinions from people who have actually used the product or tried to work that particular business, there are alot of other not so sunny stories. The internet allows all of us to invest a little time searching before making a final decision. This can save us many dollars and heart aches.
Thank you Bill Gates, Microsoft and Apple for the years of advancements so we can have a great computer in our homes and have access to such a wonderful tool as the internet. People, like in this forum, from all over the world can share their stories without knowing each other. What a fabulous outlet to have.

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# Posted: 24 Apr 2009 03:59
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Yes, the internet is great, the only thing is that when you, as a newbie, buy a few programmes, the one promising more than the other you then get bombarded with emails from people, every day there is something new they want you to buy and I, personally, find it totally impossible to know which is good and which is bad. They all make claims that 'this is the real deal' all the other programmes on the market are scams, the gurus are just out to fool you, so that you don't stand a chance of making any money, they leave out essential information etc.

I managed, luckily, to say no to Thrive (although I nearly went for it and actually gave them credit card numbers, but it took a lot of effort, they tried to tell me that I had already spent money (they made out that I had to pay the 15%, although I hadn't signed their papers which were sent to me online.

I have looked at Stephen Pearce's Megacash programme, are any of you familiar with this? (and have anybody made any money?). He seems to be a genuine guy, but you never know, I suppose. They work with Procter coaching co. and I have been contacted by them as well.

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# Posted: 24 Apr 2009 13:29
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brondby Please be careful out there almost every program is a rip off of some kind. I saw a number saying 99.9% are false advertisements or scams. If they offer mentoring services it is more than likely shady. Do your homework!!! It is far better to take a course at a local community college and know what you have than to trust anyone out here in cyberland. Another way could be having someone you personally trust build the website for you as you will have control and know exactly what you are getting into before you start. There is no get rich method or easy method they all take time, money, and work. No one is giving anything away. For what I spent I could have had a 12 credit course at a college for a year. Do something where you are in control and I feel it will be far better off than listening to someone you don't even know.
I hope this was helpful to you and others.

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# Posted: 26 Apr 2009 16:28
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Hi
I am interested in your law suit , I was scammed by tafiti consulting and believe they are same group. I tried emailing you but your email [email protected] does not work. Is this correct.

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# Posted: 29 Apr 2009 09:27
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Hi Rufusches,
[email protected] is my correct e-mail try again. If you still have problems let me know here. I will see what else I can do. Tafiti Consulting is connected as well as many other names. This blog contains all of the information I provide to help people recover their money. I am not the person who did the Blog. However, many thanks to him!!
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# Posted: 5 May 2009 13:59 · Edited by: used and abused
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Hello Everyone,
I just wanted to say thankyou to JOEBLOW, to whom I am deeply indebted to for providing the most crucial link to the salt lake city weekly article "CALLED INTO QUESTION".
The information provided in this article got me a full refund!
Persistance and patience also will pay off in the end.
I wanted to give a heads up though on some details that I feel are important though in going through the motions.
First of all, you must send a complaint to the department of commerce in Utah. The department of Commerce houses the DIVISION OF CONSUMER PROTECTION, which is where your complaint will ultimtely end up.
During this process, you should receive a call from the company you purchased from(it doesn't matter which company it is), telling you that they feel really bad you are dissatisfied and are willing to offer you 1/2 your money back. ALL LIES. Remember when dealing with them that they are the best of con artists,this is what they do best.
DO NOT ACCEPT THEIR OFFER NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY. Be persistent and insist that they misled you and it is against the law. Then you may have to contact the division of consumer protection again.
Next will be an offer for 2/3 of your money back, final offer and a bunch more lies that they are doing you a favor etc,etc.
Again, do not accept, stay firm that you are entitled to a full refund, and again, if it comes to it go back to consumer protection.
ALL these companies, who have sold Thrive's program to you, have entered into an agreement with the division of consumer protection to honor FULL REFUNDS to complaining consumers or face the consequences of fines or ultimately being shut down. So it does not matter if you bought from momentum marketing, internet auction solutions, infusion media etc. They are all associated with Thrive.
Please remember-NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY to convince you that they are under no legal obligation to refund you any money-THEY LIE. Remember how you got taken in the first place??
I also think it is very important to be decently respectful of the individuals who may contact you from the division of consumer protection. They are the ones who are going to help you and I know that at this present moment, they are SWAMPED with incoming complaints and thrive has become a real thorn in their side. I feel you will get much further and get your refund quicker by letting them know that you appreciate the effort they are putting into your case.
Good luck to you all and if you are persistant....YOU WILL GET YOUR MONEY BACK!!
THANKS AGAIN TO JOEBLOW.

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# Posted: 5 May 2009 14:18
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Just a P.S.
Bhavesh has also drawn up a petition to shut down thrive and their associates.
He has done an outstanding job on this petition and i would encourage everyone to please contact him to get more info on this.

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# Posted: 6 May 2009 02:02
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used and abused,

I'm glad my post helped, and congratulations on your refund! I'm also glad you posted about how you obtained your refund, so others can see similar results.

My guess is that the only way this industry will be cleaned up is through government intervention. That has often been the case in the past with other unscrupulous businesses, industries, etc. Your experience actually proves that to be true. There is a reason states have a division of consumer protection....to protect consumers. After I read your post, I went ahead and looked at Utah's Division of Consumer Protection to see if I could find out more about the "coaching industry", telemarketing, etc., and I came across some interesting links. I'll post them below.

1st- here is a link to the Utah Division of Consumer Protection. I hope everyone who reads this message board takes the time to explore this site...it has some great information.

http://www.consumerprotection.utah.gov/

2nd- I started researching more about telemarketing, and it appears as though many companies I've seen listed on this message board, scam.com, rip-off report, etc. as companies affiliated with Thrive, need to be registered and licensed in Utah with a special telemarketing license. These companies need to be bonded and licensed with the state, and are in violation if they aren't. Below is a link to a list of all the registered telemarketers in the state of Utah. I would advise pulling out your billing statement or your Thrive purchase contract and verifying which company "sold" you the program. If they aren't on the list, they're breaking the law and will be subject to fines, penalties, etc. REPORT THEM! You'll probably get a refund for that alone. Here's the link

http://consumerprotection.utah.gov/lists/telemarketers.pdf

3rd- If you do see the company who sold you your Thrive education, report them for violating the 3 day right of rescission laws or misleading you in their sales pitch. Try to be detailed with any earnings claims, promises, etc.. By law, telemarketing companies must fully disclose to consumers their right to a 3-day cancellation policy of a 100% refund. I've read all over the place, that most people weren't told of the 3-day right, and this is a HUGE violation. I've also seen people receiving partial refunds or being charged "stocking" or "cancellation" fees. This is illegal. It's also illegal to give any type of earnings claim in any business opportunity. My guess is that most of these scam artists are doing a lot of that. The companies will be subject to fines, penalties, etc. and you'll probably get a refund. Here's the link to file a complaint...

http://www.consumerprotection.utah.gov/complaints/index.html

4th-Here's an interesting link off the consumer protection site that lists the "Top Ten Consumer Scams" for Utah. When you click on the link, check out #4...any guess what it is??? "Coaching Services" aka "Thrive Learning Institute". I guess the state is starting to wise up. My guess is that if you file an official complaint, explaining how you've been scammed, you'll probably get some help from the state getting a refund. Here's the link...

http://www.consumerprotection.utah.gov/scams/topten.html

Anyhow...to summarize, check out the links, and complain like HELL until you get a refund. Hit these scammers where it hurts the most...THEIR BANK ACCOUNTS! My guess is that they've already spent your money, so when the state starts getting after them with fines, forced refunds, etc, they'll be in some serious trouble.

Good luck and post your results!

JoeBlow

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# Posted: 7 May 2009 12:39
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I work for one of the sales companies that sends clients to Thrive. I actually deal clients that want to cancel their program. Unfortunately there are quite a few of these smaller sales companies that have very questionable sales practices. In looking at these complaints most of them are from those sales floors. This makes it really hard for other sales floors that are trying to give correct information to potential clients and are trying to do the right thing.

Unfortunately when you are talking about thousands of dollars you will always have issues with clients. Some related to coaching issues others to clients directly. I had a client yesterday who was having issues with the financing company that we set him up with to provide him additional funds. He just called to have the problem fixed but since it was a recurring issue with his account for some reason I told him I would cancel it out for him so that he would not have to pay for it. He was shocked that I did that for him but in the end this motivated him to stay with the program.

At the same time I had another person I talked to yesterday wanting to cancel because he had simply changed his mind and that this was not for him and did not want to do this. I reminded him that we had entered into a business contract that could not just be casually cancelled for no real good reason. He then told me to make up a reason like "his wife had cancer or something like that". The real problem with this was that in the whole while he had been in the program he only worked at this for 1 week and could not get a hold of him for the rest of the time. I don't understand why someone who could invest so much money into something would at least not out in the effort to make it work and blames others for not getting results.

While I know that Thrive offers a real good service (I know this because we do track our success stories and whether you believe them or not there are a lot out there) there are cases where the ball is dropped and whether it's something minor or really big we try to go out of our way to fix the situation.

I just think that it is unfortunate that people think Thrive is behind everything bad on the internet when I know for a fact that they are not the ones that make the initial phone calls to clients. All Thrive does is coach the clients that they have been given to the best of their ability. Sometimes that is hampered by the blown up expectations that people come in with because of these rouge sales companies. At least on our end we monitor conversations between our reps and clients and deal with situations seriously if anything was said that was not supposed to be said.

I hope this helps out some as there are always two sides to every coin and on something like this both sides have definitely not been represented.

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Frosco

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# Posted: 8 May 2009 09:16
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Frosco,

I'm not one of the people who actually gave Thrive my money, but only because I had already lost money with another company offering coaching in another area.

But I was contacted by Thrive 3 different times and offered training to set up an EBAY business for a cost of over $6000.

Does $6000 dollars sound reasonable to get information, which EBAY has its own trainers offer through local adult education programs, for less than $200?

I think you should really read through all of the pages on this thread to see what was done to alot of people here.

You might not find it so easy to justify Thrives business practices, if you do.

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# Posted: 8 May 2009 10:28
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IMARKETER,

Well said!

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# Posted: 8 May 2009 11:53
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IMarketer,

Let me clear something up that seems to be hugely misunderstood. Thrive does not have a sales floor. They do not make any type of sales phone calls out to people who are looking to set up a business. They do not even do any of the spamming that is done online that leads to people receiving any phone calls from some of these sales floors. So to say that Thrive is at the center of all evil of anything having to do with online businesses is really misinformed.

There are other companies that do business coaching like PMI, Prosper Learning and Premier Mentoring that also have their own sales floors. Thrive does only coaching.

Now I am not a proponent or cheerleader for Thrive because the company that I work for also sends clients to one of the the above mentioned companies and on rare occasions have switched some unhappy clients from either Thrive to another coaching floor or vice versa just to satisfy their needs.

As to you getting a quote of $6000 in coaching just for eBay I do think that is going a little overboard. When we have a client that invests that much money with us a website with marketing and drop shipping is usually included. I have read in some of these forums of people complaining that they have read that other people only invested $3000 as opposed to them that spent $15,000. What these individuals don't realize is that the person who invests $15,000 is receiving a lot more resources than the person who is investing $3000. In all honesty the difference in resources is measurable.

As to why spend so much money when you can find the resources online to do this yourself for cheaper. The key thing here to understand is if that was the case why aren't there a lot more people online doing it on their own. The reality is that some people need to have someone call them every week to hold them accountable to their business or else nothing would get done. You also need someone help you use the all the different tools to get a business like this up and running.

The best example I can give on this is people who pay tons and tons of money for personal trainers, gym memberships and diet plans to help them lose weight when really all it takes is eating less, eating healthier and being active for 30 minutes a day. It sounds so simple right? But how many people fail at diets because they cannot hold them selves accountable or are simply to lazy to get off the couch. You then get some of these people that blame McDoanlds because they are fat.

I reiterate what I said in my first posting that I know Thrive is not perfect. When I see that they have dropped the ball they hear it from me. The thing that I do know is that when I tell them to fix something they do it and the issue never comes up again with the client. Every company is going to have complaints as you can never make everyone happy but it is how these complaints are handled that make the difference.

The main issue here is that it is the smaller sales companies that are the issue here. They say they are Thrive when they are calling when they are not. They give Thrive clients that have bloated expectations (not the clients fault but the person who signed them up) and when they do not make all there money back in a month they call in to cancel and say that Thrive is a scam.

At least on our end we train our reps what to say and especially what not to say like earnings claims or guarantees. We take that very seriously and have either fined reps that do say things like this or are out right fired. Having a person sign up and spend money with our company is not worth it when they are signed up on wrong pretenses and are given wrong expectations.

I guess on our end that's all we can do is to hold ourselves accountable and make sure we are doing things the right way.

Thanks,

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# Posted: 8 May 2009 12:27 · Edited by: used and abused
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Frosco,
I am not going to go into a long diatribe about my experiences with Thrive as that has already been done and as IMARKETER pointed out there are pages of posts on here and we are not all lying.....but one thing you have mentioned is that the coaches from Thrive call the client to keep them motivated ...... this is simply not true.

There is not one individual who has been called by thrive after the initial welcome call to keep them motivated. In every single person's case we the clients had to work hard at motivating the coaches.

I am sorry to be so blunt here, but what you are saying about thrive and their coaches is not true.

I have nothing to gain by being on here at this point in telling this, except that I know what the truth is as I have lived it and want to prevent other people from having to experience the horror of what the coaches at Thrive put me through. I worked like a dog and had to LITERALLY BEG THEM to help me.

You have everything to gain.

This is your livelyhood and as everyone of us on here who has had a bad experience with thrive knows, your nice guy attitude is only going to benefit you, just like it benefitted the all the salesmen who sold us out FOR THEIR OWN GAIN.

Thrive and similar coaching companies are in a lot of trouble right now. I am not assuming this...it came straight from the horses mouth- the officials who are having to deal with all the complaints. You might be out of a good paying job, so sugar coat it all you want, but people aren't as stupid as you would like to think and wont be fooled by your comments.

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# Posted: 8 May 2009 14:37
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Used and Abused-

I am sorry that you have had a bad experience with Thrive all together. Believe me when I tell you that I am not here to sugar coat anything or that I think people are stupid. If you really did beg Thrive to help you with your business and they did not then you are in the right.

I want you to understand that I did not come here to change minds but to bring another point of view to the conversation. While I am giving you the benefit of the doubt on your experience you must understand that I have also heard many more stories opposite to yours of people having success. I just do not want people to paint this whole industry with such a wide brush that it seems that this is all bad and no good can come from this.

I hope that you do find something that this time you can benefit from that helps you achieve your goals whether Thrive is a apart of that picture of not.

Frosco

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# Posted: 11 May 2009 21:13
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frosco:
I am sorry that you have had a bad experience with Thrive all together. Believe me when I tell you that I am not here to sugar coat anything or that I think people are stupid. If you really did beg Thrive to help you with your business and they did not then you are in the right.

The problem with Thrive is that you have to "beg them to help you." What did they get the $6G's for - so their clients had permission to beg? (Their email for help used to be "[email protected]" - not proactive.)

The problem with Thrive is that they appear to be oversubscribed and cannot fulfill their contracts honestly. And if their contracts do not allow them to receive enough income to hire coaches that can be pro-active, then perhaps they have a flawed business model.

Evidently, they should spend more on their CRM backend, or forums like this one would not have expanding threads on Thrive Learning Institute's apparent scams.

[u]used and abused [/u]as well as[u] IMarketer[/u] point out that in this one thread alone, there are far, far more complaints about Thrive Learning Institute than there are people submitting actual and factual sites where people have had a success. A single success.

You yourself are speaking in wide generalities and I'm sure we would all be interested if you could give us one or two sites where we could actually look at their Google standings for the keyword niche they are in to see how well they are ranking. And perhaps a link to a site where we could all see a screen capture of an income statement? As well, look up who registered that domain name?

When so many people have posted their personal stories of how they have been cheated by Thrive, and the specific ways it was done, it doesn't seem fair for someone to come in and gloss it over with some assurances that Thrive Learning Institute is not a scam, but a deeply caring organization (that you have to beg for help.)

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# Posted: 11 May 2009 21:35
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Do not get involved with these crooks. they offer the world but do not deliver the goods. I know. I lost $10,000.00 with them and still no web site. They are crooks.

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# Posted: 11 May 2009 21:41
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They take you for what you are willing to pay. They will get everything you have. They are crooks. I was stupid enough to give them $10,000.00 for all their promises, but have nothing to show. If you are a student or not working anywhere this could work but only if you are already very good at creating a web site. Then why pay them?

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# Posted: 12 May 2009 00:20
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I am joining here in gratitude, first to Bhavesh, then to Used and Abused, then to JoeBlow2009! I am another dissatisfied "customer" of Thrive and affiliates! Frosco, speaking as one who admitted to the person who sold me the whole thrive package that I had no marketing background and my computer skills included emailing, websearching, and typing letters on Microsoft Word, you need to understand something! I am also a four-year college graduate from more years ago than I care to mention and I also graduated from an intensive registered nursing program. That salesman had no business approving me for that program with my background. Maybe that's why others seem to do better by your assessment...because they grew up on computers and understand programs and even something about internet marketing. But for me it was simply a matter of my excellent credit and my red hot credit card that I readily made available!
Anyway, to the three that I mentioned first in opening this message, because of you all, I have contacted various agencies via the US postal service, which was all sent out today, in an attempt to recover what I spent on the Thrive program. I will keep everybody posted!

c a future
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# Posted: 12 May 2009 21:10
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By the way folks! Since I was originally approached by Platinum Training Solutions, I wish to make the correction from a past entry here: It was Platinum Training Solutions rather than Platinum Trading Solutions. Platinum Trading Solutions is a firm in Florida which I believe has no connection with these Utah scammers!


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