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Caterina
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 10:28
jimmudge: Yes always buy promos if you can
Thank you, sir!
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alasycia
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 11:19
Calling All US citizens
This has just come out on the News Site with regard to the registering W9s.
URGENT POST: All Member Need to Complete the Following Change for W-9s
Posted June 26, 2008
It is extremely important that all members complete the following information as soon as possible.
On your Member Profile, we are now asking for your legal name to be added to your Member Information, as it appears on your W-9. Please make sure to sign into your Member Profile, where you will see a space added for your legal name, and input this information.
Only one legal name may be entered per Member Number. The legal name entered on the profile, will be the person who will receive the 1099 Tax Form, at the end of the year for tax filing purposes.
This information needs to be given on both the ASD Cash Generator Site and the La Fuente Dinero Site.
Delays or non compliance by US members are delays those members cash outs!!
Jenny
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 11:33
Caterina: I suspect I know the answer to this question, but I also know some of you who have been here for a long time have first-hand knowledge of which brings in more income, ultimately...... Since there's always at least a 25% promo going on......if I don't roll my rebates back into ad packs and save until I have at least $500 in my cash balance to qualify for the promo, I would make more money in the long run if I kept buying the promos as opposed to daily buying of ad packs with my rebate......is that correct? I KNOW this has been discussed before....forgive the repeat question. I suppose I don't want to go back through the 21 pages of this discussion to find the answer IF someone can post a quick one. Thanks in advance.....and PS: I got SOME of my Tampa money in my account yesterday.....whooohooooooo!!!
My answer to this is...it depends....
It depends on how fast you can accumulate $500 into your cash account.
If you only have 500 Ad Packages...at the rate of rebates payments it will take up to 3 months to get $500 to accumulate in your Cash Balance...in which case it is better to Upgrade daily and increase your Ad Package total by around 20-30% per month rather than waiting for the full $500 to accummulate.
If you have 5,000 Ad Package, it will take around 10-12 days (at 1% Rebate per day) to accumulate $500... you would have to do the math here and see if it's worth it to wait that amount of time for a 25% bonus
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westfam11
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 12:17
alasycia: On your Member Profile, we are now asking for your legal name to be added to your Member Information, as it appears on your W-9. Please make sure to sign into your Member Profile, where you will see a space added for your legal name, and input this information.
When I sign into my member profile there is no line for that and no place to change the name at all. So I am not sure what we are supposed to do.
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Caterina
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 13:16
Iggy, thanks for your reply.
Yes, I have just under 5000, so it will take me about two weeks to get $500.....I'll work the numbers again with THAT in mind this weekend.....
I've worked those numbers and worked 'em GOOD.....grin.....but I'll figure it out based on the promo factor. I didn't do that before. Just had hoped someone else had already done the math......
Thanks again.
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petree123
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 14:00
Pete // Jun 26, 2008 at 11:00 am
Russell: I commend your work experience, background and initiative.
And, I compliment you on your growing ASD "Balance".
But, that still doesn't make it legitimate.
You are a forex trader, you know math and numbers. Get out that calculator and do some "Figgering".
The math just doesn't pan out. There is NO Way that the company can continue to pay 125% (especially since they have to bring in 250% to do it) every 3-5 months.
Start with $20MM a month, multiply that by 250% every four months. Within a year or two you'll be into the BILLIONS.
C'mon, you are a smart business person, it can't be done.
Further (and this really bothers me), just because you are making money, doesn't make it legitimate. That's the classic sign of a ponzi. Getting validation of it's legitimacy because "I got Paid" rather than a look at the books and business model.
That's why the SEC shut down 12DailyPro. It was a security, a ponzi.
These guys at ASD are clever, it appears to be compliant because it's a revenue share, not a fixed rate. But, what's going to happen when the rate begins to decline as it ultimately will because of sheer math?
That's right. . .. less "purchases". Then, less purchases lead to lower revenue share and then less purchases. At that point it's all over.
Because you KNOW that people are not, will not, buy because of the Product. You are buying hits to your website for $1 a piece. R U NUTS?
Hits in a traffic exchange (that's what ASD is) can be purchase for $.01-$.05 or even less.
Why pay a dollar?
Anyway, I'm glad you are in a profit and I surely hope you are scraping cash off the table each week.
ASD will go the same way as 12DailyPro (check sec.gov for details), YMMSS and all the others.
It's not you I'm worried about, it's all the trusting people out there that don't know better that are mortgaging their homes, spending the rent money, the medication money who are the real losers when this goes down.
130 Russell // Jun 26, 2008 at 11:32 am
Pete, I agree with you 100%
131 Daniel// Jun 26, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Russell and Pete,
I agree with most of what Pete says, except for the Ponizi stuff. What will most likely happen is the rebate %s will change to keep this program running, but Yes, the numbers are "out there", to be sure.
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Lori Moreno
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 14:33
Hi Everyone!
I joined ASD for the free hits, but I'm now excited about the income potential!
It's growing very fast!
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brt
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 15:16
Hi lori-
You won't be dissapointed... this program has a lot to offer and
the plans are to add a Chinese site next month. Welcome aboard!
Brendan
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annadenise
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 17:53
The Chinese site is to be up by mid July from what I understand.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 20:52
What about the Pig Latin Site?
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 22:06
Just curious, is it okay to sign up under a family member if you put on the registration a different address? But you registered on the same computer, so you have the same IP address?
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westfam11
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 22:25
Bluedog24,
You need to call ASD about that. We really don't want to be guessing on these types of issues. If we are not compliant it could affect the whole company, just not one or two of us.
Becky
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2008 23:16
I did call actually...the guy I talked to said it wouldn't be a problem. I trust he knew what he was talking about, I would just hate to lose a membership because someone there thought they were giving me the right information, but was actually wrong.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 05:22
Bluedog and others
If in doubt, get the permission IN WRITING. It may take a little longer, but then you have it confirmed.
Regrettably with so many new people being trained on the telephone support and occasionally they do make mistakes on policy stuff - which is not really their area. But more to the point - if you have it writing, then you have proof.
The limitations are related to "households" not to relatives!! This because of the stacking issue, which is a way to get double comissions from one income group - i.e. husband and wife sharing a bank account etc etc.
Jenny
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janeway
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 07:45
Why not go to the library and sign up your family member. Then there shouldn't be a problem.
janeway
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brt
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Joined: 19 Jun 2008
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 09:19
This will not work if they reside in the same household and share ip adresses... my advice would be to not try to game the system but contact the company for their permission IMHO.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 10:03 · Edited by: alasycia
I'm with Brendan 100% on this one.
Do not try to trick the system. If you are caught the consequences are serious and the rules are made so that the programme is fair to all.
We want them to be ethical - so... I guess we should also follow their example!
BTW - the reason for all the delays on Alert Pay are because people tried to defaud the company and they have been hand sorting ever since!! And look what that has done!!!!
Jenny
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 10:16
Good Morning To All!
I am saving my cash balance to upgrade when I hit $500.00.
What do I need to do to get the 25% promotion? Will the system automatically add the 25%? or Do I need to do something else to get this 25%?
From the looks of it today we are getting approx 1.3% daily! Good news for ALL!!
Have a Blessed Day!
Patti
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westfam11
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 11:21
Hi Patti,
The system automatically gives you the 25% match after you upgrade with your 500.00.
Becky
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 13:03
Husbands and Wives can sponsor each other as long as there is a written statement from the Upline Sponsor stating they have given permission for their downline to sponsor their spouse.
The Sponsor's written statement needs to be faxed to ASD and it is kept on file.
This Policy was noted several times already in the several Q&A sessions I have listened to on the ASD Webinar.
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brt
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 13:50 · Edited by: brt
For those who haven't seen this in the Breaking News section:
Posted June 26, 2008
We are excited to bring you spectacular news on our new chinese site called Golden Panda Ad Builder. This site is scheduled to launch in July 2008. You may go to [i]www.goldenpandaadbuilder.com for site details. [/i]
Brendan
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 14:01
Some helpful links for newcomers
http://www.designstrategies.com/adcash/page2.html
https://www.asdcashgenerator.com/training.php
https://www.asdcashgenerator.com/legality_statement.php
https://www.asdcashgenerator.com/thank_you.php?ocd=reg_noemail
http://www.asdcashgenerator.com/calc
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tinamariec
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 15:53
Hi Everyone!
I just recently joined ASD as well. I'm really excited about this and trying to learn all I can.
Looking forward to getting to know all of you.
Hi Lori!
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omarN
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 16:32
Hey All
Just keeping you updated like always! Well someone who I sponsored also used Bank of America direct deposit and got credit in about 3 hours today! That was even faster then mine.
Also, I got a sign up in my primary business that I am advertising with ASD ( I know this because he called me and told me he saw my AD in ASD)
So today was a great day!
Take care all.
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Caterina
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 19:16
I have yet another question......this time about 2nd levels......
When one initially buys in under the current promotional deal, it's my understanding that both the sponsor and the referral get the 25% match.....but if the new person coming in is on MY second level, I won't get anything.....not initially, that is.....is that correct?
MY second level commissions would kick in every time a purchase of additional ad packs was made....is that how it works?
Thanks, guys.....am SO grateful this forum exists......
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 19:43
Caterina: When one initially buys in under the current promotional deal, it's my understanding that both the sponsor and the referral get the 25% match.....but if the new person coming in is on MY second level, I won't get anything.....not initially, that is.....is that correct? MY second level commissions would kick in every time a purchase of additional ad packs was made....is that how it works?
The Ad Package Promotion Matches applies only to the First Level.
The Commissions Apply at the First and Second Level
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hutch1c
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 20:20
I sent in a cashiers check for the promotion that friday before the convention and I have not seen it show up. Didn't they say they were going to have that finished by this friday?
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 20:36
Hutch1c, thanks for bringing that up...
I have a refferal that sent his first check in the mail the Thursday that the convention started, the 12th I think it was.
His money was not over 500 dollars, so he didn't get the 100% match, but I woud think he would of seen it by now!
It hasn't showed up on this Friday evening. What do you guys think I should tell him to do?
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Caterina
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 21:06
iggyigette: The Ad Package Promotion Matches applies only to the First Level. The Commissions Apply at the First and Second Level
Oh, lordy (she said, her face beginning to redden).....I still need help understanding....
In what form do we get the commission? If I have a second level person coming in at 1000, for example, would I get 50 ad packs or $50 in cash, and would I get it the minute they bought their initial packs, or would I have to wait until they turned around and bought again?
I hope I'm making sense.
Iggy, thank you.....
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2008 22:07
Caterina: In what form do we get the commission? If I have a second level person coming in at 1000, for example, would I get 50 ad packs or $50 in cash, and would I get it the minute they bought their initial packs, or would I have to wait until they turned around and bought again?
If your second level buys 1000 of Ad Packages, Your First level would benefit from the 25% Ad Package Bonus (your First level would get 250 Ad Packages - you would not). Your First level would get 10% Commission ($100) and you would get 5% Commission ($50).
This would all occur simultaneously since it is automated.
If you Knock out your First Level and show ASD a Death Certificate, you may be able to hook up to your Second Level directly if they agree.
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