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omarN
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 23:07
Hey my name is Omar and I am new to the post. I love it though! I ran into ASD about a month ago and I think it is great. But I agree with some of the things that are being said here.
There is a lot of money to be made in this company. I hope ASD fixes their problems, and I am just hoping its because their exponential growth.
They should invest back into their company and not worry about rushing with ASD universe and I hear there going to open up China!
ASD, perfect our main site 1st!
Take care all
Omar!
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luckymom
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 00:17
Hello everyone,
I wanted to extend my best wishes to everyone in their ASD business. I have read many of the posts and can understand the frustrations, especially those regarding the customer service and accounting issues.
I personally am having a really good experience with this company, with the exception of customer service and accounting. I have been involved with many network marketing opportunities, I know ASD is not considered network marketing, and find this opportunity to be much different from other opportunities I have been involved in. I had the pleasure of attending the convention and was very impressed with the whole thing. I trust Andy completely and find him to be a man of honor and integrity. I have not found one company where everything has run smoothly. I have been involved with companies that have had really attractive and exciting websites but had lousy compensation plans. Usually there were more plusses than minuses. At this point, ASD has far exceeded my expectations.
There were a handful of people at the convention who gave testimonies on their experiences with ASD. Many of these folks have had their lives completely turned around by this company. I think it's far better to focus on the positive aspects of ASD than the negative. This program has completely changed my financial situation and I am truly grateful that I was introduced to it.
I think we all need to be patient and go with the flow here. Nothing is perfect. I trust that ASD is going to fix these issues and in the next few months many of these things will be ironed out.
First impressions certainly mean a lot. I had a very good first impression of ASD. I saw it as a company that truly cared about their members and wanted to see them succeed in the program. No their website is not the most beautiful thing on the face of the planet, but I care more about a company's integrity than I do about a website. And I think that there are a lot of other people out there who will feel the same way.
Enjoy the ride everyone. I believe many of us are going to have life changing experiences here.
All the best,
Lucky Mom
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psierra
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 02:58
I have to agree with some of you regarding ASD website design. They could improve their layout. First impressions always count, especially in business. But take for instance the success of Craig's List. Its success is not owed due to its web site's look and feel. Take a good look at their website and you can tell how crappy it is. And yet, it is one of the most successful websites in the world. I would be more concerned about service rather than aesthetics. Just my opinion. 
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 04:25
I agree, service definetly comes first.
If their goal is to bring in 100,000 new members a month, I think for their sake, the least they could do is make it look a little more appealing, just my opinion.
I didn't mean to offend anybody by the "old" comment...I was just making a point that young adults (18-late twenties), in general are pretty hip to innovative technology. I include this to mean graphics, music, website designs, high quality movies, etc. You know, the juicy stuff that hip people want to see.
Why do you think so many people want to drive around the latest cars, or buy the latest iPhone, or check their facebook and myspace account on a regular basis?? Because, all of these things have "APPEAL". The more appealing they can make thie company seem to the public, the better chance they have for success. Just my 2 cents...
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alasycia
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 12:50
Well, we will just have to swallow the "old" comment! LOL
From where i am sitting, Pablo's comment says it all - look at Craig's List!! Lets just get the support and It working first - it is attracting a lot of people as it is. if it grows any faster with a changed design before that - we'll be in a fine mess!!LOL
As long as it works, it will continue to grow.
Jenny
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nkelly
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 15:19
I feel a lot better today after seeing the news bulletin about what happened on Sunday and all seems wel again on the site. As a newbie who joined Friday I was very nervous after sinking in $5,000 straight off! I have a question, though. I worked out on Excel that after very little time (maybe a year or so) you can get your cash balance up to $1,000,000 (the max I think) and if you surf daily that gives you $60,000 a week in rebates. If it goes up so quickly and there are so many people doing it, just how do they plan to pay out al those billions of dollars in rebates on a regular basis?
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KHirst22
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 15:39
I have someone who wants to come in at $100.00. Is this okay too? Will he make money like people who have invested say $500.00 or $1000.00? I think my biggest concern is how do they come up with the money when there free membership month is up. Should they do the 80/20 rule right from the beginning so the money is in the cash balance.?
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 16:14 · Edited by: jgiesbrecht
In regards to companies signing up with the ASD universe website - I wonder if these companies are signing up after being contacted by ASD or has ASD merely become an affiliate of 400+ companies? I think this universe thing may be blown out of proportion as to it's significance. Anyone can become an affiliate. All you have to have is a website.
These companies do NOT pay unless someone fills out a form (a few companies will do that like insurance) or if one purchases from the website. There are already people that do this on their own who are known as successful affiliate marketers. So it's not like these companies are paying advertising $ to ASD. Payment to ASD will only occur upon action of filling out a form or from an actual purchase (depending on the company)
Will there be special offers specific to those with ASD or again.....is this just your basic affiliate relationship?
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 16:21
nkelly, that is a very good question regarding your 1,000,000 dollar question. Does anybody know the answer to that, because I would like to know as well.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 18:34
I would say very definately start with whatever you can. 100$ is fine. Many people start with 10$ and 20$. AdSurf Daily is for everyone!
If you start with less, of course it takes longer. And so what! Everyone gets there in the end. If he is thinking of recruiting, he is starting off fine. And if not - he�ll earn more slowly
Whether or not they take up a membership to earn on two levels is another option. But dont forget there are 3 levels of membership, starting at 10$ a month upto 100$ a month.
I think we have become a little spoilt with so many freebie Exec VIPsLOL And it is suprising how quickly you reach a level when you can easily afford to pay it anyway.
And with so much talk of millionaires, people forget that it is not necessary to spend more than you can afford to start with - in fact Andy Bowdoin does not recommend that.
Go and look at the recorded presentation - the link is on the New site (sorry - am on a borrowed laptop!) That will help you see how the money increases.
I think it will be A very sad day for ASD if people feel they cant join unless they can part with a minimum of 500$!!!
In fact - has everyone forgotten that you can join for FREE!!
Jenny
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psierra
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 19:20
Have any of you seen any video from the ASD Tampa convention on YouTube, MetaCafe or elsewhere? Last time I checked people that attended the Las Vegas rally posted several videos on those sites. I can't believe it!! No videos yet ?? 
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 20:55
I think if everyone is at the $1,000,000 Ad Packages range, you will see the Daily Percentages go down to keep the company afloat.
Remember that the Company only pays back 50% of Gross Collected Revenue, so it doesn't matter how many Million Dollar Ad Packages you have out there - the company pays based on how much revenue is collected.
So if ASD Collected $500,000 Gross and pays back 50% of that - $250,000 to ALL MEMBERS based on their Percentages of Ad Packages Ownership, don't expect 1% of your million dollars!
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 21:02
The ASD Offer Universe - the Corporations are paying BASED ON PERFORMANCE - it is not a flat fee that is paid to ASD. For ASD to receive payment - there must be activity (e.g Purchases, etc) on the Web Site. So...no Activity means No Payment to ASD.
It is up to all of us to market this website to everyone to make this site busy...of course once the site is really functional and hopefully looks a little better...
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 22:42
I thought at first, the more money the company brings in, the higher the percentages go...
It seems the way your explaining it Iggy, that the more money that people invest, the lower the percentages go, am I correct?
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vikingfan
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 01:16
Hi everyone. I just joined ASD a few weeks ago and went to the national convention in Tampa. It was great. I spent three days speaking with company employees, ASD members and even spoke with Andy. I know they are having growth issues but I was assured they will be taken care of in the next few months. I am not sure they expected this thing to explode so fast. People were lined up for two days handing in checks...BIG CHECKS! $50,000 checks all over the place! I heard ASD has enough cash on hand now to pay out rebates for over a year even if they don't receive another dime. They are very sound! I spoke to a university math professor and he had charts and graphs explaining how this thing is built to last forever. The bigger the better for everyone. The customer service will get better but be patient for a couple months. We are all going to make a lot of money.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 01:29
bluedog24: I thought at first, the more money the company brings in, the higher the percentages go... It seems the way your explaining it Iggy, that the more money that people invest, the lower the percentages go, am I correct?
Bluedog, ASD's Rebate Payment Program is designed so that there is only a Fixed Amount of money that will be paid back to the members who surf - that fixed amount is 50% of the Collected Daily Revenue.
So it doesn't matter how many Ad Pack Millionaires there are - the 1% payment is not guaranteed since the Pie is Fixed. If the amount ASD owes to all its member is higher than the 50% Collected - they will distribute in a manner that the is pays out the 50% only, not more....what this means is that if there are way too many Ad Pack Millionaires...the percentage must go down to keep the distribution within the range of the 50% to maintain ASD's financial solvency.
That is why I believe the early bird gets the worm...(or at least those who leverage their positions to get the highest Ad Packs first).
Personally I am planning to get any cash investment back out before the end of the year so that any profits after that will be purely profits without any risk of your Principal Purchase Money.
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 02:19
It doesn't seem like they plan on changing the percantage any time soon from what I can see... if ASD takes 50% of the Ad packages of what people buy, I would assume this is a formula that they decided would work whether it means 50% of 10 dollars or 50% of 1,000,000 dollars because it may be dealing with different quantities of money, but the same concept for however many ad packages people buy.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 06:43
If anyone missed the Webroom presentation by Bob Cefail detailing ASD Offer Universe yesterday, I posted it on Youtube in 4 parts (10 minutes each). Do a youtube search for: Iggy ASD Offer Universe
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asdabq
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 11:49
Hello,
I would love to see how you got to $1M from $5k!
Seriously, you would have to have massive downline in order to accumulate that kind of money! The system will not generate that for you not doing anything.
I bought in on the 10th of June for $500. A similar thinking occurred to me. I bought into the 1% compounded daily. I now know that I was mistaken, that is not the case.
In your case though, if I am not mistaken, you will make your $5k back, plus an additional $5k since I'm assuming you got the 100% match. That part is real. To double your money in less than 6 months certainly cannot be argued!!!
You could earn an additional 25% on both $5k IF you bring in at least $15/mo of group sales for the duration of your ad package run, which is approximately 4 months. Every month. Taken from the TOS
I am in no way trying to bash ASD, I would love to see it shine, I just bought into a presentation where a person would be earning 2% daily interest compounded daily.
What you get back (if you do not develop a downline) is 100% of your investment back, all the while advertising your website. I speak from watching my account.
I would love to see anyone disprove this, sure would make my day!
tom
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 12:18
I note on another forum that someone said that the BBB is being inundated with complaints from people about ASD. When I went to the BBB site, it notes that no report on ASD is currently available as it is being updated. Should be interesting to see what the updated version looks like.
From what I understand, everyone does get their cashouts if requested. But where ASD has created it's own problems is by expanding and not getting their support issues sorted out first. I still fail to see why they don't attach more importance to that issue. Poor customer support and payments into the system that take forever will cause complaints.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 15:53
You know, I understand that people are fed up with the customer support delays - and the company is as fed up as we are. They are certainly giving it due importance - and I think that it is not correct to say that they are not.
They have just hired a Finance Executive Office and Assistant, they have hired more customer support staff and accounting staff. They are hiring a Compliance Officer to make sure that we are advertising the right way and not misleading people. And they are also upgrading a new building to move later on to a much needed larger premises.
People do not get trained over night - and the expansion has taken everyone by suprise. The problems will be solved - of that I have no doubt. It is not a internet marketing business run by two computer whizzes in their home offices without any legal status or way of tracing them. It is an offline advertising corporation with an internet product.
This company and its owner have passed investigations made by individuals, lawyers , accountants and authorities alike to date and come up clean, legal and sustainable.
They pay what they owe and have done for quite a long time now.
We will just have to arm ourselves with patience and humour until the support catches up with the expansion. And try to remember that two of the words that relate to AdSurfDaily are INTEGRITY and SUCCESS
Jenny
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alasycia
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 15:55
Iggy
I think you have your number crunching a little mixed up and have also forgottten to add into the equation the company revenue from the corporate and other sources, which will also grow.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 17:02
alasycia: Iggy I think you have your number crunching a little mixed up and have also forgottten to add into the equation the company revenue from the corporate and other sources, which will also grow.
The Corporate Clients revenues and "other sources" need to keep up with the daily expanding increase of Ad Packages that are re-purchased - if not they will not be able to keep up with the 1%.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 17:15
alasycia: You know, I understand that people are fed up with the customer support delays - and the company is as fed up as we are. They are certainly giving it due importance - and I think that it is not correct to say that they are not.
I agree with Jenny here.
Unfortunately we are a society that expects "Quick Fixes" to problems...
ASD membership over the past few weeks have DOUBLED...what this means is that the DEMAND for support staff, service, Telephone folks, etc have just DOUBLED over just a matter of weeks.
I don't know of any company that can recruit, interview, hire, train TWICE the amount of Staff in that short amount of time...
It's an unrealistic expectation.
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westfam11
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 17:57
Iggy,
That is so true about getting trained workers in a short amount of time, it just isn't possible.
It is a shame that some people will not stick around and see this through but I definitely am. I am willing to be patient to reap the rewards.
Becky West
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 18:40
I agree - give the staff time to learn thier jobs and get everything in order. We will profit either way, may have a bit of trouble with getting new people on board with the issues.
My recruites just got their money on their accounts today from the Las Vegas rally after sending tickets and a second phone call to the company. The customer service rep KJ was polite and handled everything perfectly in order to get it working for us. A big THANKS to KJ!!
I do have to say that the website does need a new look to it. Right now it looks a bit like a scam.
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 18:44
Does anyone have advise regarding how often you update your cash balance into your ad packages?
Ex: if I have 200.00 in ad packages I am getting 2.00 /day for surfing.
Is it best to wait until this cash balance is up to a certain amount before updating it into the ad packages?
How does it impact the ad package if I were to upgrade daily vs waiting for a higher amount inregards to the ad package running out?
Thanks,
Enjoying It All
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 18:49
EnjoyingItAll: How does it impact the ad package if I were to upgrade daily vs waiting for a higher amount inregards to the ad package running out?
It would depend on if there is a promotion that you can take advantage of.
For example, the current promotion ASD will give you a bonus of 25% if you upgrade over $500. In this case if you have $200, it will take forever to save your cash balance to get to $500 so it would be best to upgrade daily rather than waiting a few days at a time to upgrade. With daily upgrade you take advantage of Compounding returns.
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 01:10
IF I compound 2.00 daily are my ad packages too small to do much in the long run?
or is it better to wait until I have 10.00 to upgrade?
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nkelly
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# Posted: 19 Jun 2008 06:46
I am a qualified banker but you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out on Excel the exponential growth based on a 1% rebate and rolling back in 100% of rebates (not using 80%/20%). I used a model with daily surfing (6% a week) and my initial $5k was doubled by ASD to $10k. Then I have assumed (and have already) 5 people in my direct downline investing $500 each of which I get 10% of what they get and 5 people each from them (almost already achieved) with $500 each invested from which I also get 5% of what they get. It doesn't take too long to get to $1,000,000 in ad packages if you roll weekly profits (sorry, rebates!) back into ad packages. Maybe I am just lucky to have such a downline but I think a lot of people can achieve this and with say only 1,000 out of 60,000 people building up to $1,000,000 ad packs, that means ASD is paying out $240,000,000 in rebates a month! That's a lot of money in anybody's language. If 10,000 get to that level, which is only a matter of another year when you start at $500 and roll all back in, you have rebates amounting to numbers bigger than the national debt of a small country!! $28,800,000,000 to be precise per year and I haven't even included the small guys here!! That's a heck of a revenue. So, if rebates are adjusted, even to 0.1% the numbers are still very large to maintain and the rewards not quite so attractive!
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