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nkelly
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 11:32
I just joined on Friday investing $5,000, surfed Friday and Saturday and now can't get on the site...bit worried to say the least!!
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 13:55
There are a lot of issues with ASD.
First, They can't handle (in my opinion) the exponential growth they are getting. Membership have Doubled over the last 2 weeks.
Their infrastructure is not keeping up with growth.
I'm in contact with the guy who is the Principal Web Page Designer for ASD Offer Universe...he told me that when Bob Cefail announced Project X over the weekend, his IT team was still working on the site!
They only have half the Corporations loaded onto Offer Universe at this time so they still got some time to go before launching this.
So, I would not suggest sending any prospects to Offer Universe at this time...it will be a turn off!
Obviously the system is still significantly run manually. If you look at the latest 100% Promotion Deal, if you want to participate, you have to send in the Money AND send an email to a google email address with the pertinent information. What this means is that there needs to be a body sitting there reading your email and confirming the data...this is not automated and will take weeks to get your Ad Package purchase into their system considering the thousands of cashier checks collected this weekend. I would bet at least 3 weeks with their limited staff.
Having ranted about all that, this company has a bright future
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Kat
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 16:18
I was at both the Rochester and Las Vegas rallies so have had the opportunity to witness the explosive growth ASD is experiencing. It's going to take time and effort to add and train staff, but once we get thru these hurdles the patient members will be rewarded. On a lighter note, I sent a cashiers check with an info form FedEx on Wed. for Thurs PM delivery and my ad packages were posted in my account and sponsor's account Thursday afternoon! Not bad.
Kat
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 18:03
So now late afternoon has arrived and the ASD site is down. So basicly the site has not been operational all day. I thought they had moved to a server that was supposed to handle all the growth. If it is not the server, does ASD not monitor it's website over the weekends?????
I agree with andrewh that the current ASD site is outdated. It needs to be given a crisp undated look - and get rid of the red graphic polka dots that load up. It needs to be automated in all it's processes. I still get the feeling that ASD does not have the programmers necessary to build a more professional looking website. I don't see the professionalism yet in the ASD site nor the Beta universe site ( and yes....I know it is in the beta stage).
So when the ASD site still needs to be automated, why are they talking of the Chinese site? Why not fix what they need to do with the current sites first? I just wish ASD would get their s*** together. ASD has so much potential but they just don't seem to concentrate on vital areas to their growth. Micky Mouse websites just won't appeal to many people. Maybe some of you love the current ASD site - but I just think has an outdated look to it. It needs to be fresh and crisp and scream professional web design.
And the excuse of growth has grown old and stale as a reason for the problems that ASD is experiencing. Why continue growing if they can't handle what they currently have?
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freebird658
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 18:19
The site has been down since this morning and nothing has been posted about it on the news site. It went down while I was right in the middle of surfing and a few days ago I was unable to finish surfing for the day (only got to 15 sites) because the site developed some strange gliche that wouldn't let you surf, kept getting some sort of an error. Guess their server upgrade just wasn't big enough or else their IT dept can't keep up. Who knows this may just be a ploy to prevent having to pay out so much in rebates for the day.
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 18:46 � Edited by: jgiesbrecht
And when they are working on the beta universe site - they need to allow the option for one to maximize the window of the website that one opens. If I were to buy from Stateline Tack - I have to keep moving the site sideways or up or down. Not good enough for easy navigation. One needs the option to maximize the window. I don't want to have to scroll left or right or up and down just to see a webpage that I may be buying products from.
And why dosn't ASD shut down their old website at adsurfdaily.com?
No reason to keep that up and it is a simple process to take it offline.
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KHirst22
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 20:05
Anyone having problems logging in today????? What is going on! This has been all day now.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 20:05
I am afraid that I have to agree with you on many things on this one Jeff. We have a great company here and one that is treating us all pretty well, top say the least, but we need to get some tidying up done before we go onto the next stage, for the sake of professionalism. This is an advertising business, and we need to make sure that our advertising is available - i.e. that the surfing works!
The Beta Universe site looks pretty good to me for a Beta, and there are some great companies so far, but I wish they would get their new support and accounts people properly trained before they go rushing off onto the next thing. They are gettng loads of new money in - but there is also a lot of new money waiting in the pipeline or backlog!
Equally I would hope to see the programming sorted out properly and then the La Fuente site fully developed, before we go rushing off into China.
This is the first thing they have done that I am dubious about. China may have a large market, but it is also a very difficult one to control from the US, expecially if it is in Chinese!! The La Fuente site is not a problem as there are sufficient bilingual staff at AdSurfDaily to deal with spanish speaking members/advertisers, but a chinese site???
(And as a producer, my only comment is that chinese products are putting a lot of Americans and Europeans out of work, as our companies simply cannot compete with their prices which result from both subsidized production and cheap exploited labour)
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FreeCashMan
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 21:15
What makes ASD better than Revenue Magic? And there are other similar programs like ASD with cash back advertising.
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 21:59
I agree as well...the site design I feel is the one thing that holds me back from talking to people about this.
Today, I told my friend about it and tried showing it to him, and before I could explain what the company was all about, he wouldn't even let me explain. He said he had no doubt in his mind that this was a scam, he said "If this company was for real and were making as much money as it sounds like, why does this website look like something from 1995, even a crappy website for 1995??"
I couldn't convince him to get past the design.
I agree, this company has lots of potential, seems to be growing incredibly well, and could be extremely successful longterm. People are pouring millions into this, out of respect for the members and people who are prospect members, the least they could do is make it more presentable.
I was at the Tampa convention. It was very exciting, tons and tons of people. Everybody seems really positive, and are investing a lot of money into this.
By the way, I can't sign in tonight either, it says my member name is invalid...I believe in this company and the people in charge, but honestly, I think for less than a thousand dollars, they could revamp the whole website and make it gorgeous and reliable.
But anyways, I do think it's a great company, and do expect to see it get better and better.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 22:08
From the looks of the IT guys at the convention, they look fatigued...need to beef up the IT department.
I agree they need to beef up their infrastructure before trying to bring in the bucks...
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 22:12
I just logged on to ASD. Doesn't seem to be a problem at this time.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 22:59
I find it amusing that with such sucky technical support and website...ASD is still raking in Millions of Dollars....
why is that?
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KHirst22
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 06:12
Is there anyone that would speak to me about getting another affilated program. Of course, I just used paydotcom.com to get started but I am interested in sellling on this site too. I have googled affiliated programs and signed up for one, but for some reason I can not find the link to use in asd. If some could pm me that would be great.
Again, thanks for all your help. I don't think I would have done this if it wasn't for all of you
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 07:48
The ASD Local group I am with are all close to the 100K Ad Packages Level.
The Person Above is at 350K Ad Packages - taking in $3,500 a day...and retired...goes Mountain Biking Daily... He started with 12K last year (2007).
As with any Network Marketing Program, timing as to WHEN you get in is the essence....
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Caterina
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 09:37 � Edited by: Caterina
"I was at both the Rochester and Las Vegas rallies so have had the opportunity to witness the explosive growth ASD is experiencing. It's going to take time and effort to add and train staff, but once we get thru these hurdles the patient members will be rewarded. On a lighter note, I sent a cashiers check with an info form FedEx on Wed. for Thurs PM delivery and my ad packages were posted in my account and sponsor's account Thursday afternoon! Not bad."
Lawdy.....not sure of this forum's system yet.....I thought it was going to indicate a reply to Kat's post.....
AT any rate, I miraculously got through to Customer Support this morning.....a very patient gal answered my questions, though she had to go and ask someone everytime I asked a question. She said that it will probably take up to two weeks to post anyone's credits received from the last promotion, that it will NOT be retroactive as far as earning of rebates goes.....she said because they DID offer 100% match, that's why they won't go back and do any rebates retroactively.
I was surprised, a bit disappointed.....but also suppose that's fair enough. Just wish I'd Fed Ex'd MY stuff in advance so I could begin to earn the way I want to start earning. Ah, well.....patience hasn't EVER been one of my virtues. Guess I need to begin working on it.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 10:49
I think it may take longer than 2 weeks to get all the Cashiers Checks deposited and credited to the accounts. It's a manual process and they have limited staff so I would be surprised to see my account credited in 2 weeks.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 13:12 � Edited by: alasycia
Ok - my take so far - after being with ASD a long time now.
It is a great company and the fundamentals work - we advertise, we earn and we get paid. Now that is the most important.
It has been gone over and gone through by accountants and lawyers and heaven knows who and has been pronounced legal and sustainable. We are not dealing with business amateurs or crooks.
The owner's BUSINESS track record is very sound and successful - whatever you think of Napleon Hill.
The admin system is still terrible and we are waiting for a whole office full of new employees to be trained - both in support and accounts.
The programming has not caught up with the expansion and the whole thing needs to be sorted out properly before they go any further as it is taking up a lot of time for existing members, never mind new ones. i agree with some of Andrews comments about the present IT needs of the company.
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"As with any Network Marketing Program, timing as to WHEN you get in is the essence.... "
I disagree with this statement 100%.
One of my newer referrals has built up her own group, having started with 25$ (not 2,500$ nor 25,000$) through a bit of work and a bit of luck now has over 10,000$ in ad packages and will shortly be able to get off disability. Her story is not unusual.
In the ASD Cash Generator program BECAUSE it is not an MLM and because of its payment structure, it is NOT time sensitive and you can do better than your sponsor and as long as there are people who are intested in earning and advertising there will be people wanting to join as referrals. AND, as has been proved over and over again - a large p�rchase at the beginning gives you a faster start and lessens the need to look for referrals. BUT no more.
Jenny
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 13:47
So many of us agree that ASD currently does NOT have a professionally built or maintained website. But is ASD listening?
I agree completely with andrewh's comment shown below. He obviously has more knowledge that I do on this issue. What I know is that a higher functioning website is possible and should be a matter of concern to ASD. ASD has NOT had the professionals necessary in the past to take on this task. And with all the money coming in - why not????
I note that they have taken down the universe website - good. In it's current Beta condition - it needed to be taken down. Of course, my concern remains that they do NOT have the personnel necessary for their websites. The beta universe site template was not great.
andrewh comments - 'As for IT department(s), that's nothing and not at the core of ASD's problems; they're network administrators, not interactive designers. These guys need developers who know how to build robust commerce sites partnered with strategic interactive designers and writers.
Right now, it's amateur hour at the Apollo. '
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brandy2
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 16:02
this is for Becky, or anybody else...
Can you please explain me how to make more money with asd .
so far it if surf every day until compled the advs, then sometimes I see ptc advs, they pay only 1 point. but i want to know how can i make money with this system because so far i am only making pennies a day... thanks
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alasycia
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 16:18 � Edited by: alasycia
Hi Brandy
The money accumlates at aproximately 1% a day of the value of your ad packages. If you have a small ad package, this does take time. When you reach cash earnings of 10$ you can then buy a further ad package with it and earn on a larger ad package total, etc etc
What most people with very small ad packages do, is recruit other people to join the company as their referals and then you earn a comission on their purchases and that also adds to your cash earnings. And as you can buy ad packages with any cash earnings, this gradually increases the total you earn from
I suggest that you go to the ASD webroom and watch the recorded presentation, or go to one of the live ones if you can. This explains exactly HOW the system works far better than I can and does explain it very well indeed!!
http://www.adsurfdailywebroom.com
This is not the same as the InTouch webroom, where Bob Cefail is giving out some professional marketing tips etc. This is the ASD training for ALL members.
Hope that helps
Jenny
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 16:24
The fastest way to make $ is to build a downline by sponsoring others. This leverages your efforts.
At the convention a friend who went purchased $500 in Ad Packages a month ago making $5 a day at 1%. At the convention a person whom he sponsored purchased $25,000 of Ad Packages, which gave my friend a 100% Bonus (25,000).
If you are motivated to sponsor many folks in your downline, this is a way to leverage your success.
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brandy2
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 16:34
okay so since i can not afford to sent more money at this time the best way for me to increse my income is to refer other people.
thanks for your opinions
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 16:51
Brandy, You don't have to be a great salesperson...just find great salespersons under you!
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bluedog24
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 17:34
Andrew...you sound like you really have a clear head on how to improve their website.
If I was you, I would try to contact ASD and try to explain your ideas. If enough people call and let them know how to improve their website, they may eventually listen.
I was actually very surprised, that through the whole convention, none of the speakers said anything like, "We know the website needs to be improved with the design, please be patient, and we will get it done."
To me, this is the ABSOLUTE most important thing they can do.
With this sort of design, I don't know how they can grab the whole market by hand. I'm 24 years old. Just by observation, at the convention, if I was to guess, I would say 75% of the people there were 40 and older.
Maybe older people don't care enough. If they want to see younger people involved, which I'm sure they do, it's going to be hard to convince them with the current design.
I know for me, it took a lot. Trust me, it makes all the difference in the world.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 18:17
that's interesting because I didn't think the website looked that bad...maybe cuz I'm old!
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alasycia
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 18:27
Hey Bluedog - as an officially "older person" I have to admit the design of the site worries me less than the smooth running of the business. But you are probably right! LOL
Brandy, I Just wanted to clarify the referral aspect. You dont have to be a sales person or even find a brillliant sales person (though it is always nice) in my opinion. Dont let all these near millionaires scare you off! LOL
Personally I have found the best salesman for ASD is the programme itself. You can see that your ad pack spending is growing at about 1% a day and you have the option on increasing your earnings by compounding them. That is going to apply to anyone you know who may be interested.
And dont forget that you are offering people the possibility to advertise their business FREE to a captive audience (all the active members of ASD)
With so much talk about earnings - I think it is easy to forget sometimes that this is an advertising company and we are offering advertising free and also the possibility to earn 125% of the value of our advertising back.
Now that is a great deal, especially when the offer is made by a sound and growing company that will be around a long time.
You have plenty of help from the site itself and i cant recommend that recorded presentation too highly!! it is a must for new and not so new members. After that it all gets easier!
And we have the new PROMo Toolkit available with its new banners and emails etc to help as well.
Dont worry - you will get there!
Jenny
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Roche
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 19:14
Hello! I will start ASD soon, but I was wondering if ASD will be active for many years or it will fade like many programs out there? Also, in acuople of years from now when many people have huge amounts in their accounts and they start cashing out will that be something ASD can't survive? Anyway, I know is agreat program and I'm happy I ran into it. Good luck to everyone,
Roche.
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 20:12
I don't think that some lack of concern by others in regards to ASD's poor website design/platform is due to one's age. I am 50 ( and don't consider myself old....not yet anyways ) and have some experience using website builders like Homestead. You can make some fairly decent sites with Homestead for a small biz or personal but depends on what one's purpose for the website is. But when one is looking at the scale of ASD - one needs the services of a design firm as mentioned by andrewh. And I really don't know if InTouchMedia has the skills required for the task at hand either. Currently, intouchmedia.com - Bob Cefail's site (with whom ASD is working with on some level is currently down for construction. What company wants someone to go to their website and see the message - "Currently under construction. Please check back later." Would one ever see a website like Dell or Amazon down with such a message?
If one looks at the stock of ITOU (InTouchMediaGroup) - it is an OTC stock that last traded at .0005 cents. According to info online, they have a current market value of $ 17,993.50 based on 35,987,000 shares. So that tells you what the market values InTouchMediaGroup at.
I note that the universe website is up again.....Beta. It is so frustrating to see the release of the Beta and the poor quality of it. If it is indicative of the final version - all I can say is that it is very poor design.
I just fail to see why ASD does not take this issue seriously. It certainly can't be for lack of money.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 16 Jun 2008 20:34
ASD Offer Universe was hastily put together over the weekend in a rush to present it at the Convention. The webmaster was still working on it during the time it was verbally presented at the Convention, and many Corporations aren't even upload to the site yet.
No excuse for them but just an FYI
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