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nkelly
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 08:25
iggyigette: Here is an ASD Approved one: Enjoy.
All I know about this one is that it does not seem to work! I changed the cycle to 360 days and I got a negative return on $500 initial package. Am I doing something wrong? It LOOKS like it its brilliant, but if ASD have really approved it then I am troubled by it enormously!!
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 08:40
nkelly: All I know about this one is that it does not seem to work!
Coming from ASD, are you surprised?
This calculator was posted in the ASD Webinar by the that guy Robert, the Webinar Host
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asdabq
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 11:04
Like some of the examples above, my own sponsor just sent me a spreadsheet showing an example of how rebating works.
This is what gives this program a bad rap in my opinion! The example shows $xx.xx growing at a rate of 1% daily, indefinitely.
Unethical! Irresponsible! Misleading!
This wrong on two counts:
1- Weekends@ 0.5% were not taken into account.
2- The initial ad pkg never expired.
I sincerely hope those who are sponsoring DO take these two items into account when showing this to others!!!!!!
This kind of spreadsheet will eventually lead to some legal matters for some who show this to prospects, please don't don't show 1% every day with no package expiration, it is severely misleading!!!!!!!
If nothing else, newcomers need to know the maximum earning potential (rebate) is 125%, period!!!
Also, yes, you are earning 1% rebates, but it is only until that package has paid back 100%/125%. It is not 1% for all eternity that is presented by some!
Just would like to see this promoted as fairly as possible! Telling a prospect that will earn 1% the rest of their lives is simply a lie! If that were the case, I'd sell my house and put every dollar I could beg borrow and steal to put into this.
Please be ethical when presenting this to others!
If you need to lie to or mislead people to buy into this, you are WRONG.
Sincerely,
Tom
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 11:30 · Edited by: iggyigette
asdabq: Just would like to see this promoted as fairly as possible! Telling a prospect that will earn 1% the rest of their lives is simply a lie! If that were the case, I'd sell my house and put every dollar I could beg borrow and steal to put into this.
I tell all my potential new members that this rebate program will not go on forever in its current form and percentage rebate payback. At some point in the future, The math won't pan out with the Promotion, Matches, Commissions, etc and the Rebate Percentages will have to decline to accommodate for the payments to a growing membership base.
I've invested only 20K in this program...have 120K of Ad Packages now between ASD and La Fuente...I'm cashing out 10K a month for the next 2 months - will have my Original Purchase Amount back by August...and I will still be building up my Ad Packages daily and will be pulling out at least 10K a month minimum in profits for the future...that money's coming from someone else since I've already got my Original amount back...
Having painted that picture...I believe those already in at this "Start Up" phase will do very well...no matter how much you're coming in with...big or small amounts...As Long as there are Rallies across the country there will be Daily Rebates...
It's simply my opinion but over time most of our income will probably be from ASD Offer Universe "Web Mall" where the 400 Corporations are sitting around waiting for us to buy something from them!
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Vaussie
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 11:48
Thanks for the calculator... but I was looking for something official with regards to Andy Bowdoin's Presidential award.
Did I miss something?
Thanks!
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This post is either my opinion or my relative truth based on the information I have to this point in my journey!
Take what you like and leave the rest!
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grits67
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 12:08
Hello! We just joined on Wednesday and are so excited about this. We are starting with $1,000 today and planning to take full advantage of the 50% match in Miami July 12th.
 Beth
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xocrodgers
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 16:22
Gosh, some of you are really trusting. Me, not so much. You see I just put $500 of my savings into this on Saturday, and I'm very nervous. I can't seem to find any answers on the website of questions I have and the lady above me knows nothing because her son got her into it. Now, I'm trying to go on to the asd site to locate these webinars you are talking about and I can't get the site on. Yes, I'm very nervous about my $500 and I can't imagine what kind of anxiety I would have if I would have invested 20K in this! So does anybody have an address to go to these webinars? I can only hear the presentation that's on the home page. Thanks
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Caterina
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 16:26
Hi, everyone.....
Can you guys recommend the best method for getting your cash-outs paid? I do NOT have a B of A account and don't plan on opening one.....I don't like Alert Pay due to their fees......
Has anyone tried the Virtual Money card and if so, was that painless?
Or is it just as good to request a check from ASD???
I'm not planning on cashing out for a long while, yet, but I was just asked this question and had no answer.....so am bringing it here.....
Is Monday over yet? GROAN.........
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alasycia
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 16:59
They have announced that they are looking into a new Visa Debit Card and that we will have news of this soon.
So I am also waiting for that one. Alert pay is the only easy alternative for most international people, so the introduction of a card will be a blessing.
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agates93
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 19:41
Hey Everyone!
My husband and I are very new to ASD. We started June 10th and are extremely pleased and excited with how things are going! Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to recruit friends/family members. What is the best way to bring the subject up? I always know what I want to say but it never seems to come out the way I would like it too. Needless to say, I'm not very good at explaining things. I really need help in this area!!! Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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juicedharp
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 21:20
Am I the only one who can't get in to surf my sites today? Or is the ASD server down? been trying ALL day.
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Caterina
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 21:41
alasycia: They have announced that they are looking into a new Visa Debit Card and that we will have news of this soon. So I am also waiting for that one. Alert pay is the only easy alternative for most international people, so the introduction of a card will be a blessing.
Jenny, thanks for that reply.....I forgot they were working on a Visa debit card....I think that's something to hold out for. Alert Pay charged me $7 to send in $100.....I know processing fees are in order, but THAT seemed far too steep to me.....am afraid to see what they'd charge for a thousand or two!!!
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nkelly
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 21:43
I used my incorporated business to sign up for this. Does anyone know if I have to sign a W-9 for the business or is that just for personal participants?
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Nicholas
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 22:23
Is anyone else having trouble getting onto the ASD website tonight?
I have been trying for the past 3-4 hrs.
Thanks,
Patti
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Caterina
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 22:53
The site has been glitch-city, all day long.....
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:04
nkelly: I used my incorporated business to sign up for this. Does anyone know if I have to sign a W-9 for the business or is that just for personal participants?
I believe you have to also send in the W-9 for your Business. ASD needs the business' EIN number to send a 1099 Form for tax reasons.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:05
Caterina: The site has been glitch-city, all day long.....
For a company collection Millions of Dollars Daily and recent Server Upgrades....
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:26
I just hope they will give us our rebates and credits for today.
Like Mom always said - "I'm tired... why don't you kids just go to bed?"
Good night to all!!
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onlinediva
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2008 23:44
Hi All!
I have been a WAHM mom member for years, but it's my first time on this forum. Great to meet fellow ASD surfers!
I have been in ASD for a month now and I could pinch myself I am so excited about it!
I thought about painting my link on our roof (we have a lot of planes that fly over ) but hubby didn't think that was such a great idea!
Anyway, cheers to all of out there rocking and rolling with ASD!
Becky
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 00:40
The site is back up now.
I went to do my FIRST CASHOUT TODAY of 1K, and to my surprise the CashOut History tells me this:
Date Amount Description Status
30 June 2008 23:22 $1,000.00 Cashout from cash balance. Ticket
20 June 2008 10:42 $230.00 Cashout from cash balance. Complete
01 June 2008 20:09 $20.00 Cashout from cash balance. Complete
This is my FIRST CASHOUT and the system tells me I've already had 2 COMPLETED cashouts of $230 and $20!
Well...I went to my "Ad Pack History" to the Above dates and saw this:
20 Jun 2008 10:42 230.00 $23.05 Ad Package Internal processor no Confirmed
It looks like I did an UPGRADE and the computer logged it in as a CASHOUT!
Well...I didn't lose any money but it really doesn't inspire much confidence either!
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nkelly
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 08:46
iggyigette: I believe you have to also send in the W-9 for your Business. ASD needs the business' EIN number to send a 1099 Form for tax reasons.
Thanks Iggy!
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Caterina
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 10:23
iggyigette: It looks like I did an UPGRADE and the computer logged it in as a CASHOUT! Well...I didn't lose any money but it really doesn't inspire much confidence either!
I checked my cashout history after reading your post - something I hadn't done yet because I hadn't initiated a cashout. Sure enough, both of my upgrades are listed as cashouts, too.....
Am thinking it must just be how they keep their records.....all upgrades, I suppose, must officially be deemed cashouts so that they can take from that balance to do the upgrade......???
AT any rate.....I'm assuming it's their way of doing it and nothing wrong with it - as you said, you didn't lose any money.....and at least it seems to be consistent (if you can call comparing TWO members' accounts "consistent".)
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 10:44
Caterina: Am thinking it must just be how they keep their records.....all upgrades, I suppose, must officially be deemed cashouts so that they can take from that balance to do the upgrade......???
Actually it is a "Glitch" in their system since I have Upgraded almost every other day.
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EnjoyingItAll
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 10:56
I too checked my cash out today. I have never taken cash out of the system yet and every day that I updated there is a cash out complete.
this seems to be correlating with the ad package upgrade page also.
Any word on the company giving rebates for yesterday?
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teydean
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 10:56
A Glitch? All of my upgrades are listed in the Cashout history section.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 11:33
teydean: A Glitch? All of my upgrades are listed in the Cashout history section.
Sorry My Error. You are correct. The Glitch is with me.
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iggyigette
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 11:44
EnjoyingItAll: Any word on the company giving rebates for yesterday?
I didn't see any news on the company giving rebates yesterday, although we were able to get into the site in the evening time and did our surfing.
On this morning's conference call, the La Fuente Dinero site should be back up by the end of the week - they are doing Server Upgrades
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success4all
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 11:52
Iggy, how does one get a hold of you...I've been trying a couple different ways since yesterday. Thanks.
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BeautifulCakes
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 15:07
Hi Everyone,
I just join the ASD program 6/23, bought my 1st ad package 6/29 and used alertpay. Thanks to the posts here I'm not going crazy wondering why my purchase dose'nt reflect in my account, yet. I did sent a ticket to ASD and also was able to speak to someone over the phone. The customer service explained to me, they're behind entering the purchases in the system that I should wait until the end of the week.
Just wanted to introduce myself and give you this bit of information. I'm very excited about the program and I hope it works for me.
BC
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brt
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# Posted: 1 Jul 2008 15:44
onlinediva: Hi All! I have been a WAHM mom member for years, but it's my first time on this forum. Great to meet fellow ASD surfers! I have been in ASD for a month now and I could pinch myself I am so excited about it! I thought about painting my link on our roof (we have a lot of planes that fly over ) but hubby didn't think that was such a great idea! Anyway, cheers to all of out there rocking and rolling with ASD! Becky
Welcome Becky,
Glad you found us!
Brendan
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