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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 13:36
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I am a member but I never made a dime there.
In fact it is a GDI affiliate program, if you want to make considerable money, you must purchase GDI service and promote it to other people.
The other streams are useless.
Hopefully it is helpful.
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hijynx427
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 13:42
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T Jam - I am your average computer user and a newbie at internet marketing. I haven't done anything special to get signups through spiderweb though I have seen profit through SelfBank Mobile (100 for signing up, 100 for each referral) and after about a month, I've got some GDI signups.
It sounds like a make money quick scam when you look at all the huge figures from other people but here I am, regular old guy, making some extra money on this system.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2008 18:48
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hijynx427: I haven't done anything special to get signups through spiderweb though I have seen profit through SelfBank Mobile (100 for signing up, 100 for each referral) and after about a month, I've got some GDI signups.
Pretty much my story as well!
I have about $1200 in Self-Bank Bucks so far.
Now, where can I spend it??
Still, I think SWMS is an excellent plan.
Especially for the NEWBIE.
It will teach you stuff as well.
And yes, GDI is the best thing going.
But you really don't have to pursue the other streams if you don't want to.
AND, they have a notification system that will let you know that someone is about to join or upgrade a particular stream which will give you a chance to pursue that particular stream if you so desire.
GDI, is worth having a system like SWMS.
I am now earning a few dollars each month with GDI thanx to my SWMS promotion.
Hits2U is another excellent GDI builder.
I use both!
(Why not?)
There are others as well!!
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# Posted: 8 Sep 2008 00:37
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Hi Everyone
My name is Mike i have been involved with many online Afilliate / MLM programs over the last few years with very little success.
I have now been using The Spiderweb System for a little over 3 months with some very interesting and surprising results, it was free so i thought " what the hell "
The 22+ instructional setup videos where very easy to follow and made it very easy to set up the 12+ multiple streams of income.
What i thought was very good about the system was the fact you get your own Capture page on your Own Domain so it is not an afilliate link it is your own personal Domain.
The added inclusion of a fully automated Autoresponder that sends out pre loaded automated emails to your leads blew me away, that was when i realised this isn't just any old system it has actually been put together extremely well.
An automated Blog with new automated posts every day will be added soon.
They also teach you how to generate leads / sign ups, and show you several techniques to use.
Here are my results after only 3 months you can see below my Downline totals.
Downline Member Totals - 3 of the 12 + income streams.
GDI - 126 Members in Downline.
Direct Matches - 291 Members in Downline.
Zenzuu - 152 members in Downline ( in 1 month )
This is an Honest review of The Spiderweb system with Real results, i have NOT embellished anything and the Downline Totals are completely Real and have been achieved within 3 months of using the system and ONLY using the spiderweb system.
Remember these are results from just 3 of the 12+ income streams.
If you have any questions or would like to post your results here please do.
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2008 16:17 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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Glad to see you are having such great results!
I have a few questions and points to make however.
Please take them in the inquisitive manner they are being presented.
I am not trying to trash you, and certainly not SWMS of which I am a member.
And perhaps your answers will elucidate SWMS for us all.
Like any program on the web, SWMS is not without it's issues:
Mikeyp: This is an Honest review of The Spiderweb system with Real results, i have NOT embellished anything and the Downline Totals are completely Real and have been achieved within 3 months of using the system and ONLY using the spiderweb system.
You must have had to use some kind of advertising.
SWMS doesn't advertise all by itself!
Mikeyp: The added inclusion of a fully automated Autoresponder that sends out pre loaded automated emails to your leads blew me away, that was when i realised this isn't just any old system it has actually been put together extremely well.
Maybe I have missed something.
Where is this AUTORESPONDER?
I get notices from SWMS when a new person has 'visited my site', and they specifically tell me to contact that member, by email, ON MY OWN.
If there is an autoresponder, please tell me how to locate it and get it working!
EDIT - I just noticed that the AUTO-RESPONDER is in place. A referral just now sent me an email referencing 'my' AR email I 'sent' to him. So THAT's good to know!
Mikeyp: What i thought was very good about the system was the fact you get your own Capture page on your Own Domain so it is not an afilliate link it is your own personal Domain.
I'd like to find clarification on this as well, all I know about are the referral links. Where is and how do I find this personal domain that I 'own'?
Mikeyp: An automated Blog with new automated posts every day will be added soon. As far as the automated blog, I too registered with that but I am told that was discontinued, along with Google adsense or something. I never understood either anyway, so I don't know much about them. Any clarification from you could only be helpful! They also teach you how to generate leads / sign ups, and show you several techniques to use.
This too I'd like to find out about.
I have gotten nowhere by asking my sponsor, HIS sponsor, or the forum.
Please tell ME where I can learn about these things on the SWMS website!
I like SWMS, and it has grown more than any other online venture I have participated in.
But they are SERIOUSLY lacking in support.
It and a number of the 'streams of income' are still in beta stage so there are bound to be issues that need to be resolved.
So this is not a major criticism of SWMS.
If you can provide any of these much needed answers, then post on my man, post on...!
MORE Good luck to you with SWMS!
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2008 18:31
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hello, i am new. do u have to pay for that GDI service? i have listened to the video on their site. it seems like everybody is having success. its surprisingly enough that a free system giving u lots of free info and still make blew me away. is it hard to do internet marketing? i was thinking about signing up to the spider system.
i was pretty much in the process of tryin to find a "promising company" where you can actually make money...
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 18:37
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lady_trinity: do u have to pay for that GDI service? i have listened to the video on their site. it seems like everybody is having success. its surprisingly enough that a free system giving u lots of free info and still make blew me away. is it hard to do internet marketing? i was thinking about signing up to the spider system.
GDI is $10 a month, with a FREE 7 day trial period.
There are a LOT of 'GDI-builder' systems out there.
SWMS is easily the best.
And of course, gets you involved in far more than GDI.
Then too, SWMS is a great education course on network marketing, getting you involved with the facets and tools of network marketing Mikeyp mentions here.
And it's FREE!
Of all the plans I am involved in, SWMS gets more active signups than any other.
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 20:27
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as usual another promising company goes down the drain for me. $10/mo will eat my account up and i cant afford to go down to zero. i might as well do my hwk again on work at home jobs...
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# Posted: 13 Sep 2008 23:02 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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lady_trinity: as usual another promising company goes down the drain for me. $10/mo will eat my account up and i cant afford to go down to zero. i might as well do my hwk again on work at home jobs...
Oh NO Lady_T
SWMS is only JUST GETTING STARTED!
That is the main problem with SWMS, it's still in Beta mode, as are many of the income 'streams'.
That is also one great current feature of SWMS.
You can get in while it, and some of those income streams, are still 'just getting started'.
And it's truly 100% free, so why not?
That $10 per month for GDI will not be much of a burden for very long.
You could easily become profitable with GDI before that next month's bill comes rollin' around!
(and of course, there's absolutely no need to pay $10 a month for GDI)
And you'll be doing a LOT of homework before you find a decent work at home J-O-B.
SWMS, and many of the ideas here at the WAH forum are BUSINESSES, not JOBS.
No punching a clock, just getting up off the 'u know what' and WORKING!
I think we are here at the WAH forum looking for the FREEDOM that an online business can provide.
It'll cost you the cushy, illusional security of a J-O-B, and even cost you plenty of HARD WORK, in the bargain.
At least in the beginning.
But HARD WORK, is the only path to financial independence that you can reliably count on!
You can work for someone else, and hope you make it to that land of blissful retirement, or work for yourself - on your own terms
(or do BOTH!).
But it's HARD WORK either way!
(it even takes HARD WORK to get the money to buy those endless, worthless, scammy lottery tickets!)
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2008 12:16
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I signed up for GDI and having had much luck! What does the spider web system do again?
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# Posted: 16 Sep 2008 06:15
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SWMS does absolutely NOTHING!
YOU however can use it to build your GDI downline for one thing.
YOU will have to follow the vids and set up your SW Marketing System.
YOU will then have to promote the heck out of it.
BUT SWMS converts very well, and responds well to clicks (great splash page!) so you should be successful that way fairly easily.
GREAT for the newbie!
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# Posted: 18 Sep 2008 14:43 · Edited by: opendomain
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LOL TJ I LOVE YOU MAN!
Hands down I've loved watching you grow with GDI and SWM, the ups and the downs.
Here's my assessment of it and though I use it and promote it to all my downline I don't have it as my main site...the only reason being that I would lose my email addresses and have to many other programs flowing through a few of the emails I would lose. As soon as I tie up some loose ends on my affiliate marketing I will start another GDI account using nothing but SWM.
So here's the low down.
SWM does work, and IS GREAT FOR NEWBIES.
As everyone has said it's easy to use, extremely great videos and is free. If you use JUST THE adwords and set yourself up to not burn to much money it's more than possible to get your downline growing and fast. I have a downline member that total invested $10 in GDI, and then $100 in Adwords and has over 100 downline members already. Using nothing but SWM. The great thing is her downline is able to duplicate...the capture pages are pretty effective.
I don't want to say it's automated because obviously it's not, but once you get through the video's it can be very hands-off-ish.
I personally haven't done any NEW GDI marketing in about a month or two and my downline is still growing because of SWM...so to me at this point it is automated.
My top producers with SWM have all already created accounts for their wives and husbands and have started duplicating for them as well.
That is what I'm going to do, set up an account for my wife and do the leg work and have that feed back up to me(that's basically means that for my household I get double the GDI income in one tree of my downline...minues 11 dollars ($10 for the extra account and $1 for lowered downline level). Then I might do one for my highschool son and let him figure it out
SWM does work if you use it as it's designed.
If you log into your back office and have everything set up right then your "affiliate links" should be http:YOURDOMAIN/spiderweb
There are several others as well for the PPCVIRUS and i forget the other's name but it's there too.
They are located all the way to the right in your home backoffice page.
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# Posted: 23 Sep 2008 18:32 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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opendomain: LOL TJ I LOVE YOU MAN! Hands down I've loved watching you grow with GDI and SWM, the ups and the downs.
luv u 2, thanx for tha positive!
opendomain: I have a downline member that total invested $10 in GDI, and then $100 in Adwords and has over 100 downline members already. Using nothing but SWM.
I wish I understood this one.
Adwords, as I understand it, is no longer a part of SWMS.
But Adwords, was something I never quite understood anyway.
I'd also like to know how folx get these incredibly large GDI downlines!
SWMS has gotten me quite a few GDI signups ,
but many folx that sign up under me in SWMS already have a GDI account  .
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2008 08:00
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I for one do not care for SWS. I tried it when it first started and a lot of links where not working. It may be bett now but for the amount of time and money there are a lot better programs out there.
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2008 10:28
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Brenda: I tried it when it first started and a lot of links where not working. It may be bett now but for the amount of time and money there are a lot better programs out there.
Hey there Brenda,
I can say that the links are definitely working.
If there is an issue with SWMS for me, it's the support system.
Lately, my upline has been coming around so that has been a help.
I DO wish though that their FORUM was useful!
It does take a while to set up your SWMS system, but most of those income streams are ones folx should be looking into ANYWAY, and it's good learning.
Once it's setup, you will find folx are quick to sign up under you.
If nothing else, SWMS is great for your GDI promotion.
SWMS converts!
But also, SWMS is free, free, FREE!
What program is better than SWMS at that price??
good luck 2u Brenda...
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2008 13:13
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I will agree the forum is pretty garbage. I've tried to post 3-4 times and nothing. Same post too
Which is "CAN YOU HOST MY EMAIL SO I DON'T HAVE TO TRASH MY EMAIL ACCOUNTS?"
So far I haven't seen it or gotten any responses back. I will say that SWM does convert like you said.
Adwords used to have a payout when someone you signed up purchased like $100 in x amount of days(30 I believe) you would receive some money...or something like that. I never got it so I'm not sure.
SWM still uses adwords to promote, but is now NOT an income stream.
SWM has definitely gone through a few overhauls since it's first inception and they are working to make it better.
Did you get the survey from GDI about how to make it better? I had a few choice words about their hosting capabilities, I mean we can't even install PHP code to capture leads or anything.
What's funny is I haven't had any members sign up with SWM who already had a GDI account, perhaps just luck of the draw? Those in my downline that switched over to SWM love it because it is worth the work of setting up.
One gal in my downline is loving me because I moved a new signup under her and the new signup has EXPLODED with SWM. Upwards of 40 signups in like 2 months.
If you're just getting started in online marketing Spider Web marketing is one of the best places to start. It has a very detailed video set up AND exposes you to several online concepts:
Social marketing
Adwords
Video marketing
the auto follow up system is pretty nice as well.
SWM free
GDI $10 a month...
It's pretty much the cheapest way to get your foot in the door to working online.
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2008 00:47 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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Joemama677: before I decide to pay $10/month for GDI, should I go to another GDI website and then transfer my account over to SWS
You can/SHOULD do it all thru SWMS, that's what SWMS is there for!
Joemama677: also, if I do sign up for GDI, what is the best way to advertise so my stream of income would grow?
Here's your answer, just learn the network marketing game:
opendomain: If you're just getting started in online marketing Spider Web marketing is one of the best places to start. It has a very detailed video set up AND exposes you to several online concepts: Social marketing Adwords Video marketing the auto follow up system is pretty nice as well. SWM free GDI $10 a month... It's pretty much the cheapest way to get your foot in the door to working online.
Read through this thread for some other good SWMS marketing ideas.
good luck!
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2008 12:29
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I got in on the free version and was immediately confounded by all the different avenues it generates with. It may work but I wasn't sure enough about this to dedicate the time needed to understand how to maximize its potential. Does anyone use it as their primary source of marketing/income?
Sasha
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2008 12:32
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Wow Mikeyp. Looks like spiderweb is tailor-made for MLM. I have to give it a whirl with GDI.
Sasha
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2008 12:39
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You get money from your referrals when THEY sign up through GDI. You also get money if you've signed up for direct matches and they sign up and you've both purchased the membership. There are several income streams in SWMS. As you are new to the online marketing world I would say hold off on becoming a blackwidow member as well as purchasing anything beyond GDI, if only because these other programs are semi-pricey.
The thing with SWMS is it is both a good newbie tool for the reason's I listed, as well as a good tool for a more seasoned online marketer because it consolidates several programs into one, easy to manage system.
But what happens if you hate GDI and online marketing just isn't your thing? Well then you just blew anywhere form $50-500 dollars? I wouldn't do that, so I would suggest you not do that either.
As for the DVD's well GDI offers a bonus for every 5 people you sign up in a week's time of $100.00. Honestly this is where a lot of your upfront money comes from with GDI. You cannot get this bonus unless you've purchased the DVD's. I would hold off on buying them until you see how you like GDI...no sense in purchasing $60 of DVD's that you're not gonna use.
I purchased my DVD's 3 months after being in GDI and seeing that 5 sign ups a week was something I could duplicate often enough to warrant me spending the $60.
Follow up with the people in your backoffice BTW it makes a difference.
*put's on cheerleading outfit*
Like I said for the experience you get with marketing online $10 with GDI and SWM is really not that steep in comparison to some of the other options out there, and you can cancel at any time.
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# Posted: 27 Sep 2008 23:34
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Hi Guys,
after putting in a lot of hard yards with Spiderweb over the past 2 months, I can honestly say that MOST of it is now useless. It succeeded so well for Kimball so quickly that it is now very difficult to promote the system effectively. There is way too much Spiderweb advertising out there now....it is practically a saturated idea. The real problem is that the system asks you to DUPLICATE the entire process. This creates clones everywhere and makes the system dull and uninteresting to the prospective signups. "Seen this one before" or
"seen this advert 10 times today" is normal.
Having said that, the GDI & Direct matches content has a lot of merit. I also promote GDI and it is without doubt one of the best work from home programs out there....very smart and pays well.
It may surprise some people to learn that several of the leaderboard regulars are making over $50,000 per month in residual income! BUT....you have to be a lot smarter and leave the remainder of SWMS behind to get into the big league. Cheers from Australia!
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2008 17:37
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I agree with you to an extent.
This is something EVERYONE needs to pay attention too. And that is the idea of "pluging in" to a "duplicated" system. These systems are great like you said, especially if you can get in when the time is right. For the rest by the simple nature of the beast the "duplicated-ness" of it makes it obsolute for the reason you listed...everyone is doing it and the market is saturated with the idea.
The trick is ok, now you know this...how can you use it?
SWM as a marketing system is sounds, it provides great information, it helps you get started in several places at once and is a great step by step learning guide for any NEWBIE.
A newbie without a teacher, mentor or teamate will soon fizzle for the reasons you've listed. What you can now do though is rather than use SWM to market, use it to CAPTURE. I've found this to be very effective. like I said SWM has all the bells and whistles, but you still need a solid foundation in Internet Marketing to carve out your piece of the pie.
IF YOU RELY ON ANY ONE IDEA for to long you will cease to grow.
You have to stay moving in internet marketing.
There are some idea's that last longer than others, and still some that are just foundations in marketing. Honesty, lead building, follow up, follow up, follow up; it's these and rules like these that make EVERY GREAT SYSTEM system and can be found at the CORE of every great MLM.
So there's the secret to working with SWM, use it as you see fit
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2008 20:40
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Hi again,
yes, very true and that is what I was getting at....if you 'stand still', the world will pass you by. Be different, but promote the things that work. GDI works, no question! Be a clone and you will not get anywhere....this is the main failing of Spiderweb. Hey, how do you get your links to work on your signature section? I have followed all the directions and it still doesn't work! Cheers, Ozzi
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ozzicash: I have followed all the directions and it still doesn't work! Cheers, Ozzi
It's working now! Check the code.
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2008 12:21
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Mikeyp: If you have any questions or would like to post your results here please do.
TJamMoneyMan: Mikeyp: What i thought was very good about the system was the fact you get your own Capture page on your Own Domain so it is not an afilliate link it is your own personal Domain. I'd like to find clarification on this as well, all I know about are the referral links. Where is and how do I find this personal domain that I 'own'? Mikeyp: An automated Blog with new automated posts every day will be added soon. As far as the automated blog, I too registered with that but I am told that was discontinued, along with Google adsense or something. I never understood either anyway, so I don't know much about them. Any clarification from you could only be helpful! They also teach you how to generate leads / sign ups, and show you several techniques to use. This too I'd like to find out about. I have gotten nowhere by asking my sponsor, HIS sponsor, or the forum. Please tell ME where I can learn about these things on the SWMS website!
Well Mikeyp, those are my questions!
Any answers?
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# Posted: 19 Oct 2008 21:56
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Just discovered Spider Web the other day. Saw the "get Started" videos. I get the concept of driving people to the site and introduce 22 income streams...got that part.
I'm signed up to a couple of them, before I signed up to Spider. So the question is, what's the difference between, signing up those individual sites/programs using their affiliate links and promoting the spider web site with my spider link?
For example: Signing up to Adsense Affiliate program, you get an affiliate link and promote the link where ever for sign ups.
My first impression with Spider is that I would promote the spider website and my spider affiliate link would be automatically linked to each program, so if a new member signs up to Spider and joins a program (i.e income stream), I would receive a referral/commission using my link. Is that how it works?
If this is not the case, and I have to sign up to each program separately, I don't see the difference between using a direct affiliate link from one of the 22 rev. streams and using spider web.
Can you clear that up for me?
Thanks,
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2008 03:56
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Hi everybody,
I'm really glad I found this forum. I'm sure that it has saved me a lot of money as a brand new internet marketer looking into the many opportunities I could put some dollars into. It's my first post here.
I have a similar question to djdeke.
First, I'll mention one thing in response to it: In the intro to SWS Kimball Roundy mentions a unique technology in the SWS that allows people to earn "infinite levels wide and infinite levels deep" on referrals to the different affiliated sites. I think you might miss out on that aspect (though I'm not sure just how it works) if people sign up in one of the affiliate sites such as GDI, but that sign-up doesn't go through the SWS referring link.
So here's my question...
I got into the SWS about a week ago and over the next few days I completed the set-up process. Then I poured a fair amount of $$ into the first AdWord and Yahoo search campaigns I've every tried. (Very grateful for the informative videos on SWS about using these ad services.) It was exciting to see the traffic start to come in.
I notice that of the 15 or so leads who have come into the system so far, the majority never went beyond the initial intro page (i.e. don't get past "Stage 3" or give a valid phone number).
Anyway, what I'm getting to is...I wonder if I'd get better results more quickly if I placed ads for the GDI system itself, rather than SWS--since it seems to be widely acknowledged GDI is the primary referral income source with SWS, at least early on.
Maybe because of my temperament I'm drawn more to down-to-earth, "conversational" presentations than to presentations that sound hyped up. The welcome page at GDI, including the video, just resonates with me a lot better than the very big and bold SWS capture page and the in-your-face video telling people to "WAKE UP!! SNAP OUT OF IT!!" etc. (no disrespect to the creators of the video--I still think it's very well done, just a matter of personal preference)
I was first drawn to the SWS partly because of the possibility of leads for an MLM I'm trying to build (fairly new to that industry as well), but now I'm much more enthused about the potential revenue streams I've discovered through the system. I'd like to attract mainly other people who see the same potential in the revenue streams--not so much people who want leads for their MLM (seems to be tons of competition in that market right now anyway).
Rather than placing ads that promise thousands of leads in a few weeks and take people to a capture page where that's the main "hook", I wonder whether it could be more effective (and cost-effective) to direct people straight to the GDI page instead. (My point is that many visitors to my SWS page seem to pack up their bags and move on because the capture page doesn't make them want to look further, and thus they never get to learning about GDI, much less Yuwie, Zenzuu, Self Bank, etc.)
Taking this further, if they like what they see at GDI--as I expect many would--then they would register there, I would build a relationship with them based on that, and then encourage them to consider signing up at SWS and explain the potential benefits.
Does anyone here have an opinion on this alternative approach?...Great to be part of the group!
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Hi Myriad,
EXCELLENT, excellent questions, many of which I've asked myself and if you look at my sig you'll see I'm still a little up in the air.
I personally despise your typical "capture pages" I think they are hype and designed to play on emotions and nothing more. 1k a day, or millions of leads an hour type text typically turn me off and I have never really liked them.
So that's my personal view on them.
Now my business me.
They work. Sadly they do. For some strange reason that I cannot explain people buy into "the dream" and will try anything in order to get to their "dream". Capture pages are aptly named because they capture your attention (and email) by using LARGE CLAIMS (and php script)
I've contemplated long and hard about what can be done, and I suspect that the person who develops the capture page that is effective and not full of hype and instead honesty will shortly thereafter become a millionaire.
When you look at the SWS page you see what I see, but what do SOME other people see? They see that little bit of hope. They get the feeling of "hey maybe I found it, maybe this is the one" and in some respects they may be correct. I'm a firm believer in GDI and to some extent SWM and
So this places you at an interesting spot. Do you get the people with what works or do I try the more personal approach. My homepage should tell you what I've decided and though it is successful...I know that if I put up a "capture page" it would be even better.
I promote GDI first and foremost and then I show people SWM for about 80% of my leads.
The other 20% come from forums and links and emails containing my SWM info.
What you decide to do is simply a matter of personal preference and if you want my advice:
If you want to make leads quickly go SWM
If you're ok with growing more quality longer lasting leads then go personal...with a hint of SWM.
I've spouted this point over and over and over in this forum. With GDI if you can, for a year, get 1 sign up a month and show that person to do the same and so forth through your 5 th level you'll be more than fine. 1 person a month. You mathematically will be making about 4k a month in a year. Chances are not everyone will hold on or be able to reach that 1 person a month. BUT, if you could do half of that in double the time. 2k a month in 2 years? Would you? Would you invest $10x24 months=$ 240 over 2 years to do that? Most people would and when explained honestly and simply like I've just done most people will give it a shot... try that.
Hope I helped.
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Hi OpenDoman,
To let you know, I really got a lot from your post. I appreciate you answering my question so clearly.
The concept of sponsoring 1 person a month every month for a year is very strong, and it seems doable, especially since each person's investment is only $10/mo.
Using that model...in the network marketing company I'm in, if each person got one sign up per month, so that at some point when it's all complete, that member had 12 on level 1, 144 on level 2, and 1728 on level 3, their monthly income from just 3 levels would be:
Level 1 - 12 members / 1200 BV x 5% comm. = $60
Level 2 - 144 members / 14,400 BV x 40% comm. = $5,760
Level 3 - 1,728 members / 172,800 x 10% comm. = $17,280
= total $23,100/month from just 3 levels
Or if only half of that took place, it's still over $10,000/mo.
Taken to the 4th level which pays 10% commission, the figures get pretty ridiculous (10% of 20,736 members' volume on 100 BV each...over $2 million/month on that level alone--ok that's too crazy to even contemplate, so I wouldn't take the example that far!! But taking it through 3 levels at least sounds "earthly" .
The difference is that the monthly investment is quite a bit higher in that company than in GDI--it is the purchase of one's own product for personal use, which costs $155 US each month. Still, this is a powerful concept you illustrated and I should look at it as a way of showing the income potential of that MLM with people (at least taken down through 3 levels), as well as GDI!
... Anyway, I'm definitely leaning towards promoting GDI, and as I learn my way in the IM world, I can learn the skills to set up the kind of friendly and personal and hype-free capture page that you've set up for your leads!
Till next time.... Thanks again,
Ed
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2008 19:46
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btw, When I said leaning toward promoting GDI, I meant advertising and directing leads towards that opportunity FIRST, and then introducing them to SWS.
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