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attaboy
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# Posted: 8 May 2008 21:18
Can some post up their results. How successful it became and how much been made.
I might join this soon but wanted to see result from other people if possible.
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westfam11
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# Posted: 8 May 2008 21:59
attaboy,
It depends on how much you spend on ad packs. You will be making 0.50% to 8% every day on however much your ad pack is.
We have been averaging receiving 1% to 2% per day the last month. So here is an example:
Start with $500.00
Day 1: 1% rebate $5.00
Day 2: 1% rebate $5.00 = $10.00,
you upgrade and then you balance is $510.00
then on day 3 you get a rebate on $510.00,
When the cash balance is 10.00 or more you can either take a cash out or you upgrade your ad packs and then you are paid on the higher amount the next day.
I made a post about how much money I made earlier but I really don't feel comfortable doing an amount anymore, but if you read that post it is about double that now.
Everyone makes money every day if they surf their 12-23 web sites, the amount depends on how much you paid for your ad pack. Everyone eventually gets to a higher amount of pay-off, it just depends on how much you start with on how long it takes you to get to the point where you want to take out cash.
If you are interested, at 10:30 Eastern time tonight there is a presentation. It will explain everything in more detail. Here is the link.
http://www.freewebs.com/dawnstowers/webroomschedule.htm
Hope that helps.
Becky
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2kuleschmidts
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# Posted: 8 May 2008 23:16
No one is explaining where the money comes from. If 10 people pay in to this program with $1000 and each of the 10 people get back $1100, where does the additional $1000 in rebates coming from?
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 8 May 2008 23:21
Can someone explain something to me. If we buy ad packages and surf for enough days - we get back what we paid for our ad package plus 25% on top of that. So with what profits is ASD paying us cause it can't be from profit from purchased ad packs.??????
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westfam11
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 00:01
Daily Rebate Distribution
Ad purchase sales and banner ad sales on the Cash Generator and the sale of ebooks will be totaled at midnight each night and 50% of the gross sales will be rebated to ad purchasers. Fifty percent of the commissions that the Cash Generator earns from their sister site, "Attract Marketing System", will also be paid as rebates to ad purchasers on the Cash Generator.
Every night at midnight the number of eligible ad packages will be totaled and divided into the total ad package sales, banner ad sales and ebook sales to determine the amount of the rebate for each ad package. That amount will be multiplied by the number of ad packages in each advertiser's account and the total will be credited to his/her cash balance account. Rebates will show up in your account after midnight EST.
Ad purchasers (you) will continue to be paid rebates until they receive 100% of their ad purchases. To earn an additional 25% rebate on their ad purchase, an ad purchaser must have a minimum group sales volume of $15 per month or their sales volume must average $15 per month while the ad package is active. This helps us maintain a constant growth so everyone can reap their profits. It also keeps out those who would try to take advantage of our unique system.
To maintain the stability of the program the daily rebate will be capped at 8%. Any excess will go into a reserve account to be used when rebates are extremely low. Five percent of ad sales, banner sales and ebook sales on the Cash Generator will be placed in the reserve account to be used for the same purpose.
Eleven percent of ad sales, banner sales and ebook sales will be used for advertising, hosting, site maintenance, administrative costs, customer support and profit.
* Five percent will be used for contests and raffles.
* Five percent will be placed in a reserve account to be paid as rebates when needed.
* Fifteen percent will be used for referral commissions.
* Fourteen percent will be paid to various boards, trainers and designers.
Hope this helps.
Becky
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attaboy
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 00:25
westfam11: attaboy, It depends on how much you spend on ad packs. You will be making 0.50% to 8% every day on however much your ad pack is. We have been averaging receiving 1% to 2% per day the last month. So here is an example: Start with $500.00 Day 1: 1% rebate $5.00 Day 2: 1% rebate $5.00 = $10.00, you upgrade and then you balance is $510.00 then on day 3 you get a rebate on $510.00, When the cash balance is 10.00 or more you can either take a cash out or you upgrade your ad packs and then you are paid on the higher amount the next day. I made a post about how much money I made earlier but I really don't feel comfortable doing an amount anymore, but if you read that post it is about double that now. Everyone makes money every day if they surf their 12-23 web sites, the amount depends on how much you paid for your ad pack. Everyone eventually gets to a higher amount of pay-off, it just depends on how much you start with on how long it takes you to get to the point where you want to take out cash. If you are interested, at 10:30 Eastern time tonight there is a presentation. It will explain everything in more detail. Here is the link. http://www.freewebs.com/dawnstowers/webroomschedule.htm Hope that helps. Becky
Thank you for your time to reply to my post. I still get the feeling that not a lot of money can be made especially starting with lower priced ad packs. And also since it better to buy ad pack from your earnings, does it really give you a regular income? Or only till it gets to the amount you want to take and then you have to start again?
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westfam11
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 01:42
Attaboy,
Did you go to the presentation? You will see some real examples of an above average income from this which is attainable for anyone doing the business.
Becky
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smallmiracle
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 14:08
Hi Jenny, Becky, and Everyone,
We appreciate very much all of your suggestions.
Here's an update as to whats been happening to us, in hopes that this information may prove useful, to someone else.
As of this writing....we checked with the PostOffice,with reference to whether or not our Certified Letter, arrived in Quincy yet.....it hasn't, and unfortunately, it's Friday. Correct me if I'm wrong...
ASD is not open on the weekends?
Went to the web room Q & A with Robert this morning...and presented our login problem to him, and also asked..... whether, we would permanently
lose all the rebates, that we should have been getting, if we were able to surf, these past 8 days.
His advice was the same as yours...keep trying the
telephone number....(we have, believe me.....every chance we get...it's always busy).
As to, if, we'd get credit for any rebates, we've lost these past 8 days now...he didn't know.
He said we'd have to discuss that with them.
As we do every morning....we went to try and log in.
We couldn't......however, the REASON for not
being able to log in...has changed, from
the claim that we're not logging in from the
correct IP....
to.....
Either our user name or password is wrong and to
try again. Tried again....Futile!!
Next, I went to submit another Urgent ticket, notifying them of this new dilemma.
As you know...you need to log in to be able to do that. Our login was successful, as always, on that
part of the site, and I added another ticket to our pile....so I don't think, our user name or password IS the problem, in this new circumstance, either.
Upon review of the list of tickets we've submitted already...the one we submitted YESTERDAY...was marked closed. (First change we've ever seen, regarding any ticket we've submitted so far..all the rest say..no reply).
Today...we woke up to this 'different glitch'.
Am thinking, that perhaps, they made an attempt
to help us?, but.....their chosen fix?, just put us right back to square one, but in a different way.
Just our luck 
As far as any help from our sponsor....
He's our daughters boyfriend...22 year old kid....
At this juncture...I KNOW A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN HE DOES....
Any parents out there, know the usual mind set, of the majority of these kids...
HE, can sit and surf number one....and number two....
he's busy joining every other opportunity ASD has to offer him, in an effort to sign MORE people up under him.
Basically...we're not top, on his list
of priorities right now, insofar as his taking EXTRA
time to help us get this resolved.
All he says is...they're working on it...NO KIDDING...
Unfortunately...we're no where near as complacent
as he seems to be...wait until he lives a little longer...or gets someone other than his girlfriends
parents involved...
Steve (hubby) and I, once again, want to thank
everyone, for taking the time to try and help us.
If nothing else...what you have accomplished is... easing our minds. That means everything, after, just having sent away $2000 'over the internet'.
Make alot of money everyone!!!!
Hopefully, soon, we'll be able to, as well.
Will continue to keep you posted.
God Bless,
Les
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alasycia
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 14:48
Hi Les
I will try and help you with this one. i have sent you a message in your message box on the forum.
Jenny
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 16:34
I have listened into numerous conference calls now and researched ASD online. The rebate system would make most people quite comfortable in a relatively short time frame.
But how much of the rebate comes from other streams of income separate from the ad packages bought? One would think that if they are paying part of the rebate out of ad packages bought - how can that work when everyone gets the cost of their ad back plus an additional 25%? And at times, the company even gives you more ad packs as a bonus. For instance, right now, if you bought $2000 worth of ad packs, they would match that with $1000 which would mean that person just got given a freebie $1000!
In my mind, funds received by ASD from the ad packs are not really an income stream because they give all of that back plus $25%. So I am still trying to understand where the rebate money comes from.
This blurb below comes from the SEC website on 12 Daily Pro which was an illegal ponzi scheme. You will note that it says that 95% of the revenues came from new or existing members fees. Very little income came from additional income streams........
>>>"The Commission alleges that the defendants defrauded investors by operating 12daily Pro as almost a pure Ponzi scheme � using new investor monies to pay the promised returns to existing investors � in violation of the federal securities laws. The defendants falsely represented that upgraded members' earnings "are financed not only [by] incoming member fees, but also with multiple income streams including advertising, and off-site investments." In fact, at least 95% of 12daily Pro's revenues have come from new investments in the form of membership fees from new or existing members. The other "multiple income streams" from advertising revenues or off-site investments touted by the defendants were either negligible or non-existent.">>>
What other streams of income does ASD have? Well, I do know that ASD is a reseller for GoDaddy domain names. And instead of going to my own godaddy site, I will now purchase it through ASD. They also have their millionaire ad campaign and sales of the duplicated website - adcashgenerator. Does anyone else know what other streams of income they currently have???? I would also assume that they are getting some income from the ASD ad campaign run by In Touch Media Group. And we have the tax ebook that is on the front page. They also have this website
www.attractmarketingsystem.com which does not appear to be a completed website yet. Does anyone have a sponsor that would know the other sources of income that ASD has and what % the other streams of income as a total would be. ( And what is the % in terms of the ad packs as revenue)
This company could help so many people in these frail economic times.
Lets rock with ASD! This is a great forum - everyone has great questions and everyone is friendly.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 18:54
Hi - As you rightly say Ad Surf Daily do have other sources of income - and as the link you sent states - they offer web design and banner design services and they have started their classified advertising service. They also say tht this is only a beginning !
We are totally clear that they have not fallen into any of the 12DailyPro traps. The whole company and all their operations are always carefully scrutinized by their lawyers BEFORE they are offered to ensure that they are completely legal.
However, for percentages - you could usefully go to one of Andy Bowdoin's Question and Answer sessions and ask the man himself! You will get a straight answer.
Jenny
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smallmiracle
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 19:19
Hello all...
In an effort to keep you all posted as to what's been happening with the various 'glitches', that have prevented us from logging in for the past 8 days...
We are very pleased to report...that finally....
we can log in. My husband Steve and I, respectively,
tried calling the ASD phone number, practically all
afternoon on Friday, and after a few hours, of me trying from home, and Steve (hubby) trying from his job...HE managed to connect to a live person.
David was his name. He fixed our problem.
When we asked about all the rebates that we've lost over this time, through no fault of our own, they decided to give us a credit of one day's surfing.
Better than nothing, I guess.
Now...we have another problem!!!!!!!!
We cannot allocate any of our credits to any of our sites.
There is a minus sign, in front of our 110 credits, that shouldn't be there.
Two days before, all of our troubles started....
ASD added 500 ad packages to our site, that
had no reason to be there....
They also, added more credits to our site (can't remember how many), that also shouldn't have
been there.
One of those two days, they went into our site,
and deleted the 500 ad packages from us.
The day after that, they attempted to take back,
the mistaken credits that they added.
The day after that, is when we couldn't log in anymore.
Now, as I said...there's a minus sign in front of all of our credits, including the new ones earned today, because I finally could surf.
So...here we go again, I guess.
Seems that we broke open the so called Celebratory Champagne Bottle too soon!!
The Certified letter that we originally sent to the Quincy office (in an effort to get them to pay attention to us), still hadn't arrived, by the time we were finally
able to get through the phone lines., so....
that letter wasn't what solved our login problem.
Unfortunately, once it does arrive...it says nothing
about this Brand New problem.....
Guess the best thing to do...is...try and find some
time again, to penetrate their phone lines.
You've all been very kind....
Take care,
Sooo tired of this,
Les
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teydean
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 19:26 · Edited by: teydean
smallmiracle: We are very pleased to report...that finally.... we can log in. My husband Steve and I, respectively, tried calling the ASD phone number, practically all afternoon on Friday, and after a few hours, of me trying from home, and Steve (hubby) trying from his job...HE managed to connect to a live person. David was his name. He fixed our problem.
I'm glad you got your original problem fixed. That's definitely a step in the right direction.
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alasycia
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 19:28
Hi Les
I realise this will not resolve your problem - but just to let you all know a tip.
If you need extra credits - you can always (a) view a few more sites - up to the maximum of 72 sites a day and (b) view the PTC ads.
I realise that some of you will already have worked this out for yourselvees - but I had to be told by a friend before I realised that I had the option! LOL
Jenny
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IrishP
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# Posted: 11 May 2008 00:48
Hi Guys - newbie here and first post, so please be gentle!
After a lot of debate, I decide to do a 'test run' with asd and transferred 14 dollars into my new alertpay account and then to my asd account. This was friday so after reading the posts here I am waiting until end of Monday to see if the money gets applied. (It hasn't shown on my account yet)
I wanted to ask a, probably stupid question, so forgive me if it is...
I have read in posts here and in t & c something that needs a little clarification if someone doesn't mind...
"To earn an additional 25% rebate on their ad purchase, an ad purchaser must have a minimum group sales volume of $15 per month or their sales volume must average $15 per month while the ad package is active."
I'm unsure what they mean by 'group sales volume'. Does it mean that I have to spend at least $15 a month on ad packages in order to keep earning?
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alasycia
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# Posted: 11 May 2008 09:51
Hi there
Group sales volume means any ad package purchases made by you and your referrals (on your first level as you obviously do not have a monthly membership) This includes any ad packages made by you out of your daily cash earnings and comssions received from referrals purchases.
On a "test run" of 14$ you will see a slow daily increase, as at present we are getting about 1%-.5% rebate per day and you would have to add some referrals who also buy, to see a more significant income quickly.
Have in said that, my own sponsor did a similar test run way back at the beginning of 2007 (12%) and ended up earning 1000$ in 60 days by getting a large number of referrals! If you dont want to do much recruiting - your best bet is to ut in a larger sum which will grow quicker out of your own rebates!
A word to the wise - with the current admin bottlenecks, which are particularly affecting the hand clearance of Alert Pay payments, you MAY experience a short delay in receiving your ad package
Hope this helps
Jenny
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WARRANTIES4LESS
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# Posted: 11 May 2008 10:37
Interesting,
I didn't pay much attention to ASD at first due to the collapse of 12DP, but I liked the concept for advertising, and it did work, and it is still working, so the concept is sound to earn credits to advertise by surfing other ads. I always liked the exchange concept, so now I am curious how many others are having success on the advertising side, not just the income.
I ran a test on a new program which no one knows about unless you watched CNBC last week when it went public. I put new product on ASD and I got three sales the first day, so this clearly proved that advertising is pulling views, real honest views, not the usual blind views with so many other paid to surf deals I researched. As long as advertising keeps working as well as it is, I will keep investing more and hopefully build an extra retirement income. lol Anymore success stories from ad side of business?
Good luck to all, Mike
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smallmiracle
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 14:41
Hello Becky, Jenny and Everyone.
Happy Belated Mothers Day, by the way
As promised...just sharing the results of
all the 'glitches' we've run into in the past month.
Everything is fine now.
Jenny: Thank you for the advice per how to get
minus credits, back on track...It worked
Lastly...Our Certified Letter arrived in Quincy, on the 9th...Friday. THAT was the day, that, we by
some miracle, finally, were able to reach someone on the phone...so, guess we can't attribute clearing up that mess, to that letter.
I can say that, as of this date, no one from ASD has acknowledged it's receipt, in any way. No phone calls, no emails, nothing.
Kind of hoping, the reason is, that they already,
know, that we're out of the woods, so the letter,
is moot? I sure hope thats why....
Due only to this forum and the kind people here,
we feel much better now.....so much better,
that both hubby and I are starting to recruit again.
Thank you all sooooo much for everything....and please....don't go away!!!!!
(If any of the ladies here, are interested in handbags....I'd be happy to accommodate you,
in any way that I can. We have a 10 year, Ebay business, purses being our main inventory.
Our Ebay handle is: smallmiracle, as well. Inventory changes every week...never know what I'll find.)
Have a wonderful week
Make tons of Money
God Bless,
Les
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westfam11
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 16:20
Les,
I am very happy that everything worked out for you.
I'll be here if you need anything else, just holler.
Becky
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freebird658
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 18:19
Hi Les,
I'm glad everything worked out for you!
Now if I can just get the same resolution for my issue!
9 days now and STILL no reply to my support ticket and since I work
8 to 5 it doesn't give me much time to try and call but everytime I do try to call which is after 5 I just get a busy signal!
I just sent ANOTHER support ticket but I'm sure it will be ignored just the same as the first one. They said in the notice 5 to 8 days..????
I'm getting very discouraged here and am coming very close to requesting a refund...this is ridiculous!
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teydean
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 18:27
I will be glad when they automate the whole payment process. It will make things a lot easy for everyone.
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 20:39 · Edited by: jgiesbrecht
Yes, I agree - these delays are ridiculous. One can say because of growth, but it is just not a great way to run a biz. Anyone know when their system will be automated? Are they updating their website to include things like being able to view ads from one's local area? Or view as many ads as one wants according to subject?
As well, does anyone know the phone # to use when going on the Q & A?
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alasycia
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 20:50 · Edited by: alasycia
Try the number on this link!
There's one tomorrow morning
http://www.freewebs.com/dawnstowers/weeklyevents.htm
Jenny
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jgiesbrecht
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 11:06 · Edited by: jgiesbrecht
I listened into the Q & A this morning. They mentioned they had some IT guys in helping their programmer so hopefully that means some issues with the website will be solved.
Also, they said they are coming out with some type of card for ASD that should be out in a week or so. Info will be posted in the ASD news section when ready. I don't know how that will operate and I may be wrong in calling it a credit card. So watch the news section for upcoming info on it. Hoepfully that will ease the delays in getting payments to ASD. But again - I don't know the function of this card so if anyone knows anything more about it, input please.
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westfam11
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 11:09
Here is a link for an ASD presentation for those of you interested in the program but not quite understanding how it works.
www.asdpresentation.com
Becky
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luvtravel
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 11:24
Wish I could have got a hotel room at the Marriott, I would have gone to the convention.
I too have trouble when surfing and I have Fios.
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 11:34 · Edited by: luvtravel
Don't know why I cant get my sig line to look right I know I edited the profile correctly
Never mind it finally updated my sig line..................yeh!!
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smallmiracle
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 17:39
Hi Freebird 658...
Steve and I certainly FEEL for you....
Being stuck in YOUR glitch.....
It's VERY FRUSTRATING, to say the LEAST....but, now I feel, that I'm qualified to say.....HANG IN THERE.
Calling after 5...is no good, because they're closed.
Calling on the weekends, no good, for same reason.
Steve tried late in the afternoon on a Friday.
He was on his way to work....he said...
He redialed the number 30 times, before he got
through. We were calling all week....to no avail.
He said, he thought that maybe Friday...late in the afternoon was the best time....who knows.
Maybe they wind down by then.
If I were you....and worked days...I'd try doing that...redialing like mad....during my breaks...or
on my lunch hour. Better than nothing!!
I can say...that once Steve made it in....they fixed everything right then and there.
Steve spoke to some guy named David.
Couldn't stop raving about how helpful he was.
In fact...he had me send an email...to his supervisor , in praise of him.
Just a thought....I have the email address for his
supervisor....
What could it hurt, if you sent him, an email, stating your problem...maybe that would work???
Here's his email: [email protected]
His name is RAY.
Wish I could help you more, but, I don't know how.
We're pretty new to ASD too.
Don't give up.....
God Bless,
Les
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freebird658
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 18:33
Thank you Les,
I will try to email Ray, since I can't get through on the phone!
I have been marketing online for 8 years and I have NEVER came across any business or opportunity where if you paid with paypal, alertpay or any other online payment processor that your account was not immediately credited nor have I EVER went this long without a reply to a support ticket!
If I did this to MY customers, my business would be shut down by the payment processors and my ISP in a heartbeat!
It seems they did a poor job of setting up and testing their system before they opened for business and if they are SOOO backlogged why don't they hire some help to handle their backlog!
In the offline world, if a business is backlogged like this they hire help, and the employees work overtime and weekends to resolve it!
But not these guys..it's strictly 8:30 to 5:30 Monday thru Friday!
Doesn't seem like they are the least bit concerned about their customers OR their reputation.
It just doesn't make any sense to me!
Tomorrow will be the 8th business day and 11 days since I sent payment and sent the 1st support ticket! The ONLY reason I haven't demanded a refund and deleted my account is because of you people here and what you all have experienced by getting a complete resolution to your issues with them, and the successes you are having, if this would have been anything else I wouldn't hesitate for one second to get my money back and get out!
Thanks everyone.. for your advice.
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# Posted: 13 May 2008 20:08
Well said freebird. I think that the results from this biz could be fantastic. But the lack of professionalism is discouraging.
There is just no excuse for these backlogged support requests. There is no excuse for the lack of automation for payments. Manually processing them???? And why can't they use Visa for their millionaire lead system? Hopefully with new IT people they can get many of these issues fixed. I wonder if the lack of immediate payments is due to lack of programming knowledge. If they want to grow big, they have to use the resources necessary to do so. There is no sense in putting a push on for new people when they can't handle the ones they currently have.
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