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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 15:51
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rodtanner: When someone wants you to invest money exclusively on the basis of a slickly-worded direct marketing piece, without providing any concrete details of the "opportunity" he's hyping, you would have to be off your meds to send him money. Just my opinion.
That's how he games!
You don't have to send him money.
I didn't!
He will pay for your shipping in advance via paypal - you have to pay to ship it back though, which is where you'll get burned, but even so, 'Paul' doesn't get any of that.
The scam is if you get hit for $39.95 for nor returning or 'damaging' that 'promo pack', which isn't worth ten cents!
Still, it's good advice to avoid these offers like the plagues they are.
I just like taking chances!
(luckily, I made out alright, and can spread the word to others!)
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Lacremae
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# Posted: 5 Jun 2008 15:37
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TJamMoneyMan, YOU have just saved me from joining up with Paul!
Thank you, thank you, thank YOU!
I have learnt my lesson. I have been fooled so often by excellent sales letters and then sign up and pay BEFORE doing a search. This time I searched for "Partner with Paul" with my favorite Search Engine ( see Sig) and I found this forum on the first page.
I have nothing against Paul, and he has set a a brilliant sales page, but I have had enough of trying to get people to lose weigth and take pills and I am happy to have escaped Herbalife.
Thank you again for honestly sharing your experience with us.
Sincerely,
Laremae.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2008 00:27
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LOL@TJamMoneyMan.
By the way, do you know I almost bought into Partner with Paul? I am so happy I didn't. lol
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2008 00:30
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JazzyK, cause they are trying to get paid by promoting it. lol
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 7 Jun 2008 00:41
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Jubie33: LOL@TJamMoneyMan. By the way, do you know I almost bought into Partner with Paul? I am so happy I didn't. lol
Lacremae: TJamMoneyMan, YOU have just saved me from joining up with Paul! Thank you, thank you, thank YOU!
I can die now! 
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million2
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 20:58
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I got the email work with Paul as well ,ut it did not sound right. I knew I had seen this in your forum and decided to check it out, I am happy to say that I am glad that I did. Thanks.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2008 21:34
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million2: I got the email work with Paul as well ,ut it did not sound right. I knew I had seen this in your forum and decided to check it out, I am happy to say that I am glad that I did. Thanks.
Praise be!
Another soul saved!!
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MsChristy
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 20:17
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Ugh, I hate to admit it but I too fell for this. I ordered the kit last night, funnily enough, by seeing an ad on THIS forum and not seeing the fine print about Herbalife. I've already emailed "Paul" that I'm not interested and I will be refusing the package when I get it in the mail, returning it unopened.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 04:05 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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MsChristy: I ordered the kit last night, funnily enough, by seeing an ad on THIS forum and not seeing the fine print about Herbalife.
I suggest before you buy into ANYTHING, 'google' the hell out of it - AT LEAST!!
'Google' 'whatever you're interested in' + scam + review.
Forums are an excellent place to get people's actual experiences with different programs.
Nothing beats that.
Do NOT believe ANY e-zine articles.
ESPECIALLY the ones that put 'scam' in their titles,
(that's just to con you, since you are mainly concerned about that).
Be a 'devils disciple' and LOOK for the 'bad word' on a site.
There are plenty of people advertising and putting out bogus 'good experience' about a plan.
Nothing beats checking out a forum (like this one).
Had you read through this thread, you wouldn't have even bought into PWP, would you?
Do NOT believe an advertisement!!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 04:08
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Korboy: I received an email from Project Payday to go to this site.
Which gives you a good idea about what Project Payday is all about!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2008 04:10
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lynmarie: Thank you so much for your information that is the second Herbalife Scam I was drawn into but thankfully did more research about the company like finding your remarks.
I think my work is done here!
Saving souls from the hellfire of scamnation, since 2008...
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Chinasgirl
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 00:42
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I just ordered Partner with Paul and was really angry to find out that it was a front cover for Herbal Life. I read the sells pitch thru and thru and no where did it say it was in partner with Herbal Life. I checked Reviewopedia and it was fully endorsed by it's creator so I checked it out. I tried to sell Herbal Life before and it was a nightmare. I think they now make their money by selling you into membership.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2008 22:17
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Chinasgirl: I checked Reviewopedia and it was fully endorsed by it's creator so I checked it out.
don't u wish u had checked HERE first?!!
sorry for your experience...
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putthemonblast
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2008 03:11
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partner with paul is a farce
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putthemonblast
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2008 03:17
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This message is for chinasgirl....You need to get a magnafier feature on your computer. I looked at that check on the offer and in the pink area it said Herbalife and i googled the signature of the name of the person that signed that check and it said herbalife all over the internet......boy oh boy I knew to run quick then. Cuz they almost had me wanting to spend my raggedly $10 too
lol lol thank GOD for google. It'll never steer you wrong. good ole fashioned jobs should be the lesson for us all.
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BetzUSA
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 09:57
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Has anyone heard of these on-line business opps?
1. The Home Cash Course
2. My Online Income
3. Survey Chance
I would appreciate any info.
Thank you.
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Homeboy
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 16:46
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JAZZYK: Its funny how see how everyone is talking about other peoples schemes and scams, but I was wondering why eveyone has a link under their quote that leads to more schemes and scams?
Lol, call them what you like, I've found some pretty good ideas in some of these sig links and have even bought a couple of those affiliate products with no regrets.
Seems like most people on this forum are pretty decent folk just helping each other out. Just give them a chance before you slag them off, sheesh...
And welcome to the forum, btw....
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 22:16
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Homeboy: I've found some pretty good ideas in some of these sig links
Speaking of which, your free e-book, THE ULTIMATE SUPER TIP, doesn't open after downloading.
I use a MAC OS X, what might be the problem Homeboy?
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Bradley
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# Posted: 21 Aug 2008 23:39
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I'm glad I checked out this site before falling for the Partner with Paul scam. Red flags went up the moment I started watching his video because he blurred out his face and altered his voice. I always google research these types of offers with the word "scam" and "review" after the name just to be safe. Thanks for the info it really saved me some time and money.
By the way is there any info on a legitimate looking website called Scam Free Online? It basically tells you which online work at home businesses are legit and for a small fee will get you started is this safe or worth it?
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2008 07:16 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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Bradley: I always google research these types of offers with the word "scam" and "review" after the name just to be safe. Thanks for the info it really saved me some time and money.
TJamMoneyMan: 'Google' 'whatever you're interested in' + scam + review. Forums are an excellent place to get people's actual experiences with different programs. Nothing beats that.
Great minds think alike!
But seriously folx, one thing I have noticed as of late with adding 'review', and you even have to watch if you only add 'scam', is those darn e-zines, and squidoo lenses.
They do a good job of trying to neutralize the effort by making you think they are pointing out how the offer is a scam.
They put the 'S' word all in, on, and around their 'article', making you think you are getting some scam info.
Especially in that first paragraph!
Then of course, next thing you know, you are knee deep in an advertisement for the very offer you were looking to see if there was any 'scam' info on.
(maybe they're on to us?)
Tricky devils!
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annadenise
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2008 09:58
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It is very easy for anyone to just goggle and see this - I too saw the ad here on this forum, when I googled it I quickly saw the connection to Herbalife. I have a good online friend that put over 4K into Herbalife. The products are very good, I have heard, but it is not easy to earn a lot in it. He dropped out and joined me LOL and has already earned more in two weeks then he did in a no. of months with Herbalife.
I have to admit Paul has a great ad - but in addition to googling it, do not join anything where you have to pay any money to find out what the name of the biz opp is! Now I did not see the small print - but did not look for it since I had already found out what he does.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2008 20:06
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annadenise: It is very easy for anyone to just goggle and see this - I too saw the ad here on this forum, when I googled it I quickly saw the connection to Herbalife.
Good idea to 'google' first!
I wonder when you did, and what you saw.
I too 'googled' PWP but found the e-zines and fake scam reports I mentioned.
NOW however, THIS forum comes up on the very first google page, with this topic explaining the what PWP is really all about!!
Forums are a great way to get the REAL deal out there imho.
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scshuman
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# Posted: 29 Aug 2008 21:32 · Edited by: scshuman
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I got an email today from Nick Marks to check out a video from "Partner with Paul". I was immediately skeptical because he said he didn't want any money from you.
If there's one thing I've learned so far it's that a good marketer will always ask for something in return. You may get some information for free, but in the end you will be asked to pay a little out of pocket.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2008 02:13
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scshuman: If there's one thing I've learned so far it's that a good marketer will always ask for something in return. You may get some information for free, but in the end you will be asked to pay a little out of pocket.
Well yes but, never underestimate the power of a scammer.
Nowadays EVERYBODY has an opt-in page that promises you 'everything you need to get started' for free!
So you give up your contact info.
But THEN guess what?
Oh, you know the answer to that one!!
You can't stop the scammer, but you CAN post your experiences here in the forum...
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# Posted: 4 Sep 2008 15:47
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DON'T "PARTNER WITH PAUL!!!"
I'm telling you, don't do it. I'm sure you've seen the "I'm just an ordinary guy" video ads, same as I have. "Partner with Paul" and Paul will walk you through to at least $500 a month on the Internet. YEAH, RIGHT.
I bought it, hook line and sinker. I paid the $9.95 for the "Decision Pack" from that other company. I'm still supposed to be calling them back to arrange for my second "Free" package.
And then I tried to contact Paul.
It's been about two weeks and three emails, and I have yet to hear from Paul or anybody with Paul.
So at this point, I plan to call my supposed sponsors, and tell them "Sure I'll take my second decision, but I WON'T work with Paul!" I wonder how well that will work?
Mad as heck,
Gene.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2008 05:33
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Partner with Paul?
Heck no!
Fight him with FORUM!!
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Homebusiness1
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2008 05:45
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Can you briefly explain me about the process, so that it will be useful for me.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 6 Sep 2008 21:32
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Homebusiness1: Can you briefly explain me about the process, so that it will be useful for me.
Have you read through this thread?
Maybe I don't understand your question, but I myself detailed the process here in this topic.
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starlite429
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# Posted: 23 Sep 2008 19:37
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Thank you so much for sharing your experience with PWP. I was seriously thinking of getting involved with PWP until he purposely blurred his face and altered his voice "to protect my identity"? That statement set up a red flag for me. As with any other transactions i do on-line, I google the particular product to find out about scams and get reviews pro or con.
Once again, I'm so glad this is a regular practice for me. I cannot tell you how many times this has saved me from being scammed, or investing in a product that does not work.
Your blog about PWP was so detailed and really appreciated. I did not need to read any further comments from other members to deter me from signing with PWP, however, I did to satisfy my curiosity. Thank you Thank you Thank you for a great explanation and saving me from being ripped off.
To everyone reading this: before making any transactions on-line, do a search for reviews about the product or service. This practice will save you $$, time and frustration!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 24 Sep 2008 12:33
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starlite429: Your blog about PWP was so detailed and really appreciated. I did not need to read any further comments from other members to deter me from signing with PWP, however, I did to satisfy my curiosity. Thank you Thank you Thank you for a great explanation and saving me from being ripped off.
Now HERE's someone who read through this thread!
u'r welcome 3x's!
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