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TopMentor
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# Posted: 12 Jun 2007 13:29
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Advantage Conferences is absolutely a viable business model.
The only thing I don't like about it is the passing up of the first 2 sales... this is why most people don't earn any money with it.
Brian
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etweetyb
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# Posted: 18 Jun 2007 20:43
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Ok. I am VERY glad I found what all of you are saying. I was very close to signing up to do this until I read this.
If this isn't going to be the "work at home" opportunity for me, IS there a "work at home" that works!??!??!??
IF anyone knows about a work at home that doesn't require selling, please contact me at [email protected]
Thanks!
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# Posted: 20 Jun 2007 11:31
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To be in business to turn a profit requires that selling occur. There is NOW WAY around this. You can, however, delegate the selling to people who are good at it if you are in a position to compensate such professionals.
This is part of how I run my business. Still, learning about the sales process and at least being familiar with sales techniques is one of the best educations you can have in your own business.
The only place sales doesn't occur is in public sector jobs: so if you want to be a civil servant, fine. If you want the financial freedom that is possible for a business owner, something is going to have to get sold and somebody will have to take care of taking the order... either YOU or somebody you emply to do the job.
Of course with the internet there is a possiblity to automate a great deal of the process... but when the prouduct gets up much above $100.oo there usually needs to be some sort of conversation, especially with an income opportunity.
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2007 20:19 · Edited by: TopMentor
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Advantage Conferences can be a very expensive way to get started in home business as it can cost you over $7000 and then you have to pass up 2 sales.
There are much less expensive and better ways out there to get started in a home business in my opinion.
Warmly,
Brian McCoy McCoy Marketing Group
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2007 11:46
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I am pleasantly surprised to see the ethics of these kinds of companies debated her. I strongly agree with the reverend. I believe he makes some very valid points. I will go on to say the following:
A) NONE of these types of schemes are begun to provide anyone but the people who started them with money. Granted, they need some people to hold up as examples in order to make it work to their benefit. Which leads to :
B) The people at the top pull the strings. If you think that they can't (and don't) manipulate the system, i.e. your income, you are naive. Think about this: Have you ever seen any really homely people earning hundreds of thousands? It's not good marketing to put unattractive people on stage or in video promotions.
C) If any of these sytems had any true merit on their own they would be snatched up by a publishing house or a rep firm so fast and for so much money it would make your head spin. The founders of these companies would hav no need to prey on "network marketers", better known as the "you pay me to market my product for me crowd"
Greedy, naive people get what they deserve. Greddy, intelligent people get the greedy naive peoples $. Ever heard the saying that if all the wealth in the world were magically distributed evenly, most of the money would be back in the hands of those who had it to start with in less than a year?
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2007 13:39
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With due respect,
I think you make an error of judgement by assessing the direct sales industry as being about Greed.
Its understandable... because people who want freedom are attracted to money as the means to have it and many advertisers work that angle mercilessly.
Actually, most people want to make more money, yes, but thats because they are mostly not making enough at their J.O.B.s, lack of money is stressing them out, and they correctly assess that becoming a business owner is the logical course of action to earn more money.
Most folks are not so hung up on Ferraris and Mansions as they want to pursue things they enjoy like:
-more family time -hobbies like horseback riding or travel
Furthermore, they generally like the idea of:
- not comuting to work - dressing as they like, and not spending a lot on "office" clothing - being home with their kids, pets, plants, spouses, etc...
Its not really about greed, my friend... and I know, because I speak with a lot of people who want to be in the industry.
Its about Freedom
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# Posted: 11 Aug 2007 14:16
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Well put Loren...
I couldn't agree with you more!
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# Posted: 1 Sep 2007 18:55
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Yes I did
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2009 05:25
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Check it out very carefully on scam.com . A lot of people have lost big money. It appears to be an outright scam
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