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freebieallthewa
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 10:52
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Kecia08:
I have read that there isn't a bonus pool anymore,


Hi Kecia
Yes there is still the bonus pool, I know this for a fact as Seth (president of FF) has told me there is.
The earnings that FF makes in advertising on their blog, from the tool bar and any other way they make extra income they pay out 56% of those earning to their members who qualify in the bonus pool

Larry

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 30 May 2008 19:52
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Kecia08:
I don't have anyone in my downline, but when I click my "Earnings" it shows I have made $8. How is that?!?!


Hi Kecia,

The earnings must have come from members being sponsored by your Freebie Force sponsor or upline and "spilling over" under you!

If you login to FreebieForce and click on the Genealogy button, down in the left column, you will see if any of the little boxes (representing members in your matrix) are filled in below you.

You can hold your cursor over each filled in box, and down below the boxes, it will show you more info, such as who their sponsor is.

Also, when you click on My Earnings, you can actually CLICK on the rows in the table showing your Freebie Force earnings for each pay period, and it will bring up a list of exactly who you earned $1 each from.

Kind of cool!

I am VERY happy with my experience so far... as of right now, I have 230 in my downline since joining on Feb. 7 -- meaning I am earning at least a $220 profit every month from here on out and GROWING...

I have been averaging 10 new members in my matrix every 2-3 days for the past couple of weeks.

The best part is, I have only PERSONALLY sponsored 34 of them (so far) -- that means this is a business that is more easily duplicated by my downline than anything I've ever tried before.

I LOVE Freebie Force... and in all honesty, the freebies are really only about 20% of why I love it. It's a fantastic opportunity to earn extra income and it's working for me!

The Freebie Force Informercal is going to blow this sky-high...

We truly have seen NOTHING yet, in spite of the wild growth of Freebie Force so far.

~ Laurie

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Gailtravel
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# Posted: 31 May 2008 10:25
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Freebieforce is like having your birthday everyday! I've been trying to keep a list of the free products I have been receiving and its hard to keep up! Many of these products are quite substantial.

Gotta love that toolbar!!

Join GailTravel in FreebieForce

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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 04:45
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WARRANTIES4LESS:
Is anyone earning more than a $100. a month on FreebieForce? I like the concept, and was in early, but with the hundreds I have gotten to register, only 15% upgrade to paid member, even for one month, and this I found to be amazing given how easy the plan is to market.

I have certainly saved more than I have paid over the past five months or so, and this is what is important to me, value, not so much the income as this will usually follow if the value is obvious. It just amazes me how few are upgrading, anyone else see the same results, or should I say, no results?


I'm still trying to understand how $120 a year is 'free'.

At least before my 30 days are up.
There's just nothing I see offered on this website that's worth $10 a month so it doesn't surprise me 'how few are upgrading'.

If people are making so much money.
If it's so ez to market.
I guess that's a good thing.

But what is YOUR experience telling you?

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freebieallthewa
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 09:31
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TJamMoneyMan:
But what is YOUR experience telling you?




freebieallthewa:
I have been in FF for about 2 months now and I now have 98 people in my downline.I have only sponsored about 12 personally but work with my down line to help them and only have about 3 people who have got very many people to sign upMy conversion rate is great only 1 person has pre-enrolled and never went on to member and only 1 person has droped out. Now these are numbers from my own web page and ones I have directly sponsored.I have a friend who is working it as a business and he advertises on google and other places and he will get 50-250 hits on his website each day and maybe 10-30 people a day to pre-enrolle and out of all that only one has ever upgraded to member and they droped off in about 2-3 weeks.His problem is the people going to his webpage are not looking for a business program they are just re-directed to his page or are paid to pre-enroll in peoples business. So his hits are not pre qualified.Now for me I have had 3 people who read these kind of posts and clicked on my signature and signup up and put in their real phone numbers and email address and I call them where as my friend won't call his people even tho he is paying for the advertising??It was through this type of advertising that I got somebody else that I called and emailed and they never responed back and they droped off in about 2-3 weeks.I hope this all makes sense.Also I have something else most people don't have and that is Seth's cell phone number, As he is my wifes cousin's husband, which really helps out with questions or cutting through the red tape knowing about things faster than a email to the whole of FF would take etc.ThanksLarry


As I said earlier my experience is telling ME people do and are signing up when approached right and they are looking for a home based business

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gcash
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 23:14
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cybermommy:
We are talking about a member site whereby you pay $9.95 a month to access a huge database of free ,quality(and I am not talking those 'sample'freebies either)products.
To gain and amass that amount of free products you would have to be online searching a LONG time,and I don't relish that thought



In response to the "this is not free" crowd.

So true! It's a matter of what you feel your time is worth. At only $9.95 a month, the return value is EXTREME! The membership is not free - the products the membership gives you access to are free.

You have to appreciate the simplicity and appeal of the opportunity as well. You should also appreciate that this "IS" a work at home, income opportunity forum.

I know lot of people who knit-picked a good thing to death until they finally talked themselves out of it!

If that's the case free samples are not free either - you can only get them after you pay with the "time" it takes to request them. Who cares? This concept is cool!

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gcash
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 23:20
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TJamMoneyMan:
I'm still trying to understand how $120 a year is 'free'.

At least before my 30 days are up.
There's just nothing I see offered on this website that's worth $10 a month so it doesn't surprise me 'how few are upgrading'.

If people are making so much money.
If it's so ez to market.
I guess that's a good thing.

But what is YOUR experience telling you?

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FREE HITS!!



Your own sig file offers "Free Hits". Are they really free if I have to spend "time" generating those hits. If members were to get only $50 in freebies each month for a $9.95 membership; I think that has appeal. Arguing the symantics of free just don't stand up in light of huge savings and entertainment value.

Not being mean here, just a friendly rebuttal

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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 23:28
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freebieallthewa:
As I said earlier my experience is telling ME people do and are signing up when approached right and they are looking for a home based business


I don't mind the home based business part.

I just have to get some value from the product - $120 a year, plus the time and hassle of searching for 'free' stuff, printing and redeeming the coupons, vouchers, etc.

I wasn't trying to deride the FF offers.
I truly wanted to find something worth the time, effort, and $10 that I paid.
THEN, I could sincerely and aggressively market the website, IF I wanted to.
OR, enjoy the value of the product itself, if I didn't want to go 'business' with it.

I wouldn't have paid for a month of FF if I wasn't sincere about trying to find some value in the offer.

I paid, I searched, I couldn't find any.

I came to this thread for another view.
Hoping that someone could show me 'the error of my ways', or something.

NADA...

Good luck to the rest of you though!

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gcash
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2008 23:39
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LaurieK, I just joined FreebieForce under you!

I like the team setup...

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2008 03:27
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gcash:
LaurieK, I just joined FreebieForce under you!

I like the team setup...


Hi Calvin, welcome, that is great news!

I sent you my personal welcome email with all the StarForce Team resources.... be sure to let me know if you got it, okay?

Also let me know if you have any questions!

~ Laurie

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2008 03:57 · Edited by: LaurieK
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TJamMoneyMan:
I just have to get some value from the product - $120 a year, plus the time and hassle of searching for 'free' stuff, printing and redeeming the coupons, vouchers, etc.


I found out about the Revolution Money Exchange promotion through my Freebie Force membership... at the time I got involved, they paid $25 to sign up for a free account and $10 for every referral, up to $500 in referrals.

The $25 for signing up has ended on May 15, but they are still paying $10 for referrals.

I have personally earned a total of $145 so far through this offer.

My Freebie Force sponsor worked it a lot more and earned as much as allowed from it -- a total of $525! TONS of Freebie Force members took advantage of that offer for FREE CASH. (And it truly IS no strings attached!)

(PM me for my invitation if you'd like to get in on this -- you do not have to be a Freebie Force member to participate, and it is a simple referral program, rather than a home-based business.)

Anyway, back to Freebie Force... maybe not all the freebies appeal to everyone.

For myself, the freebies are only about 20% of why I love Freebie Force.

I joined on Feb. 7 and as of today have a total of 241 members in my matrix, and I only personally sponsored 36 of them... I earn $1 a month for every active member... and I pay $10 a month... so just do the math and you can easily deduce that I am WAYYYY in profit!

I totally LOVE Freebie Force, not only for the freebies, but because it is AFFORDABLE and APPEALING to the masses, and it's much easier to share with others than any other home business product I've ever been involved with (and there have been too many that I failed at).

Freebie Force DOES save tons of time and energy... they find the freebies and evaluate them for ease of signing up before they will list them on our member sites, and if there are any little tips to make it go as smoothly as possible they include them with the listing.

There have been valuable coupons that others have taken more advantage of than I did.... there was an $11 off with any purchase at Bath and Body Works (and the listing mentioned that you could buy a nail file for about a buck and use the coupon worth $11 on something else)... we heard that one couple printed off multiple copies and went to the store 13 times and did a ton of Christmas shopping that way.

There have been two occassions when we could print a $15 gift card for a woman's clothing store, Ann Taylor, for a one-day or two-day window of time. The second time included a promo code to order online, rather than going to the physical store, as well.

The list could go on and on.... way too many to list here. And multiple new things every day, and you just NEVER know what will show up. It's fun to go and check every day!

There IS something for everybody, sooner or later....

But, yes, you must take the time to read a web page that includes all the links RIGHT TO the freebies and you must fill out a few short forms or print out some coupons....

If that makes it "not free" to you, then probably nothing ANYONE could say will change your mind. You've made your judgment.

However, thankfully, just about everyone else who joins feels differently, and THEY are the ones who will benefit -- not only in freebies and savings on cool and valuable stuff and even free CASH, but in extra PASSIVE income (the BEST kind!) earned from sharing this with others.

I am having a blast with this and recommend it HIGHLY to EVERYONE!

~ Laurie Kristensen

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Kecia08
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2008 08:15
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LaurieK:
Hi Kecia,

The earnings must have come from members being sponsored by your Freebie Force sponsor or upline and "spilling over" under you!

If you login to FreebieForce and click on the Genealogy button, down in the left column, you will see if any of the little boxes (representing members in your matrix) are filled in below you.

You can hold your cursor over each filled in box, and down below the boxes, it will show you more info, such as who their sponsor is.

Also, when you click on My Earnings, you can actually CLICK on the rows in the table showing your Freebie Force earnings for each pay period, and it will bring up a list of exactly who you earned $1 each from.


Thanks for the info! Yeah, my level 1 is full, and there are some people in my level 2 as well. It must be spillover, because I haven't signed anyone up...If I can get two more people in there, my membership will be free each month!

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FredVDL
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2008 12:01
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LaurieK,
With all respect due, anyone with that much negative energy will NEVER get it... That said, how can I hook up with people like you and "freebieallthewa"? I have been in FreebieForce since Feb. 08 and I abesolutely LOVE it! Just have to have the patience to let it grow (with work)... I have enrolled 20+ people and the group is growing. I would like to share ideas with like minded people in the "Force" as I believe it would benefit us all... Can do? Let me know...

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 03:43 · Edited by: LaurieK
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FredVDL:
I would like to share ideas with like minded people in the "Force" as I believe it would benefit us all... Can do? Let me know...


Hi Fred, all members of Freebie Force are welcome to use the resources at both my own team site and the even bigger team site of our StarForce Team...

I am not sure whether I can post those team site links here, so feel free to private message me if you'd like them -- that goes for all Freebie Force members!

Our StarForce Team site includes a members' forum, and we hope to get it really rocking in due time with zillions of members from any and all Freebie Force teams -- all willing to share what's working!

There is also a Freebie Force folder in the WAHM-dot-com Message Boards and there are a fair number of males participating there, even though the message boards in general are for "Work At Home Moms" -- and we'd love to have even more of you join us there, too.

The StarForce Team is all about everybody helping everybody as much as possible.... and the main StarForce Team web site will get much bigger with new information to be added.

Our leaders have been very busy helping the Freebie Force owners with improving the corporate sites for everybody and improving the conversion rates, and a bunch of cool things that will benefit ALL members. The latest version of our corporate free tour sites evolved greatly from the StarForce Team leaders input.

Hope this helps!

~ Laurie

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cybermommy
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 15:05
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Laurie,its great to see you here!
Not all home businesses will appeal to eeryone,but thats the beauty of our industry:there is something to fit everyone's needs.

I had a lady join me yesterday who is wanting to build very strongly with one spot,get it off the starting mark and looking to then get a spot for her husband.

It does have mass appeal.

TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 15:34 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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LaurieK:
I found out about the Revolution Money Exchange promotion through my Freebie Force membership... at the time I got involved, they paid $25 to sign up for a free account and $10 for every referral, up to $500 in referrals.

The $25 for signing up has ended on May 15, but they are still paying $10 for referrals.

I have personally earned a total of $145 so far through this offer.

My Freebie Force sponsor worked it a lot more and earned as much as allowed from it -- a total of $525! TONS of Freebie Force members took advantage of that offer for FREE CASH. (And it truly IS no strings attached!)

(PM me for my invitation if you'd like to get in on this -- you do not have to be a Freebie Force member to participate, and it is a simple referral program, rather than a home-based business.)


I appreciate your attempt at helping me to discover some value in FF, but you don't have to pay $10 a month to find out about TRME's $25 signup, $10 referral plan.
It has been going on all of 2008 at least.
At this point, many people on the web are advertising for it.
It is listed in many online forums.

I have done quite well with it myself, and have a website promoting this offer.
It is listed in my signature line.

FYI, it is still an ongoing offer.
It doesn't say so but I believe people still get $25 for joining TRME.
The last person who signed up under me on 22 May told me he got $25 for signing up - and they don't even tell you this in Freebie Force!.

I am not trying to be negative here.
I am just looking for something of value from the Freebie Force membership I paid for.
So would anyone else who pays for a FF membership.

And I wouldn't have paid for the membership if I wasn't sincerely looking to get something of value from it.

At $120 per year, I would have to find something of true value, well worth the price tag, especially if I intended to sell other people on it.
To call it 'free', it would have to have value well BEYOND it's (free) price tag.

Please don't shoot the messenger!

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 15:49 · Edited by: LaurieK
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TJamMoneyMan:
It doesn't say so but I believe people still get $25 for joining TRME.
The last person who signed up under me on 22 May told me he got $25 for signing up - and they don't even tell you this in Freebie Force!.


A member of my Freebie Force team told me last week that a new person she referred to RME did NOT get the $25. My sponsor had also called them directly and was told they are discontinuing the $25 on sign-up but continuing the $10 for referrals.

I will state again -- for me the freebies are only about 20% of why I love Freebie Force... I am $230 a month in PROFIT at this point and growing rapidly... the income opportunity is making me VERY HAPPY.

This IS appealing to the masses -- but there is always an exception to every rule, and you appear to be IT in this case!

Plus, I HAVE personally gotten some freebies worth way more than $10 a month, and I know many others who have as well.

To each his own... best of luck and success to you in all your other enterprises.

~ Laurie

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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 16:28
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gcash:
Your own sig file offers "Free Hits". Are they really free if I have to spend "time" generating those hits. If members were to get only $50 in freebies each month for a $9.95 membership; I think that has appeal. Arguing the symantics of free just don't stand up in light of huge savings and entertainment value.


'Free Hits' means you don't have to pay money.
You'll have to 'spend time' doing anything.
Even if I send you a check in the mail.
You'll have to go to the bank and cash it - time well spent, but ONLY if the amount of the check is worth the trouble.

And since you asked,
it takes less than 10 minutes to sign up for these 'free hits'.
Then the hits come.
To get more hits, you promote the system, like anything else.


I am not hear to argue semantics.
I am just looking for something worth the $10 per month.
And YES, the added time it takes to review these offers, make your selection, print out copies and go wherever you have to go, do whatever you have to do, to redeem the offer.

I am not here to trash Freebie Force, which I paid to be a member of.

I am here in this forum looking to see if there is anything I might be missing.
I just don't see any offers worth the money AND time.
I don't even see any offers worth the money!
So I visited this tread as part of what I consider a sincere search to find some value in my paid membership with Freebie Force.

Instead of arguing semantics, how about if you show me '$50 in freebies each month for a $9.95 membership' to be had with Freebie Force?

That's all I have been asking.

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LaurieK
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 17:36 · Edited by: LaurieK
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TJamMoneyMan:
Instead of arguing semantics, how about if you show me '$50 in freebies each month for a $9.95 membership' to be had with Freebie Force?



Okay... checking the site today.....


#1)

Value $29.99:
FREE Copy of NTI Shadow 3.7 (Full Trial Version) !! A $29.99 Value - Valid Until June 8th. (NOTE: Shadow 3 enables automatic, continuous back up of photo, music, data, and video files to virtually any attached storage device.)

When I click on the link to the offer, I see this additional info:

NTI Shadow 3.7 Full Version
For: Windows 2000 / XP / Vista
Limitations: No Restrictions! No Expiration!
Normal Price: $29.99 -- NOW FREE
We are distributing this FREE Software through our Trial System
however what you download is the FULL VERSION
GOOD FOR 1 WEEK ONLY - June 2 to June 8, 2008


#2)

Value $9.99:
FREE 10-Pack of Recordable DVD's From Office Depot !! (NOTE: This re-printable coupon is good until June 21st!)

NOTE - This is a re-printable coupon. You can print multiple copies and take them to the store multiple times, using one each time, and get $10 worth of DVDs each time.

(You can also print extra copies for friends/family and even to give out to customers at the store, and they will want to know where to get freebies like this for themselves, too... then just give them your Freebie Force website on a card or flyer and tell them to check it out.)

Using the DVD coupon twice, plus the above, EQUALS $50 on just these two offers alone....

It is only a FRACTION of what is listed at all times.....

And like I said before, multiple NEW freebies are posted every day.

If nothing that was posted during the one month you were a member appealed to you whatsoever, you will never know what you have missed out on since then, the list is WAY too long to copy here....

There have been very few repeats of any specific offers since I've been a member (Feb. 7).

Luckily the few that WERE repeats were of very popular offers!

~ Laurie

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freebieallthewa
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2008 22:31
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Hey Fred
My user name on FF is freebiealltheway and so is my .com web site
but here and on other forums my user name is to long and it cuts off the y so that explains that and my name is Larry Williams
And if you hadn't picked up from pervious post I'm Seth Cousin,
so I have faith in what he and Ryan are doing.
Pm me and we can exchange emails and get it touch

Thanks

Larry

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FredVDL
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 01:15
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TJam,
Not to be judgemental, but, being as you persist, I see by your sig file that you are involved in many interests. That might suggest that you haven't yet found just the "right" opportunity... Or, that you are not focused... The obstacle here just might be found in the mirrior... I know that one of the most difficult things to master in the "internet environment" is the temptation to try many things at once, to listen to many voices at once, to give it the "shotgun" approach as it were... In contrast I have found it much more productive to find something easy to do and then focus intently on that one thing and work extremly hard at it. Give it time, nurture it, grow it, treat it as though it is the only thing you have to give you the success you wish to achieve. Lastly.... Look inward for answers. You can achieve ANYTHING you put your time, talent, and energy into... That said, I wish you the best life has to offer...

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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 01:21
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Larry,
I did read that you are Seth's cousin. How proud you must be... I to have faith in what he and Ryan are doing. I look forward to a long and prosperous relationship with the"Force" and as many of the membership as possible. Now... Please forgive my lack of savy, but, "Pm"?.... I don't know what that means... Please advise. Also you are more that welcome to visit my blog (in sig file) and maybe we can hook up that way... Hope to hear from you soon...

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FredVDL
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 01:25
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LaurieK,

WOW! You DO go the extra mile! (In your effort to help TJam) I applaud your effort! However, I don't think it has anything to do with the wind that blows..... I think it is the set of his sail...

Anyway, keep up the good work...

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freebieallthewa
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 11:44
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hey Fred check your pm = private message

Later

Larry

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cybermommy
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 13:47
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I too only have good things to say of Seth and Ryan.
A couple of weeks back Seth came by another forum where I post regularly.
I had been having a problem trying to help an international lady join FF.
I wasn't hearing from support ,I know they are very busy though.
I pm'ed Seth at the forum,explained the sitation,and it was sorted that day.

No hiding beind curtains or being unreachable.
I like the way they are so accessible

freestyle
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 17:48
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I believe that freebieforce will be the next big thing in the internet.

It's no dificult to start when you know how to promote, I already have 300+ members , I personally added 182 and my team is growing so fast .

English is not my first language and I'm one of the top leaders right now, so if I can do it (with my team strategy) everybody can.

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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 20:56 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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FredVDL:
TJam,
Not to be judgemental, but, being as you persist, I see by your sig file that you are involved in many interests.


Just trying to get my $10 worth from Freebie Force.
I have searched the offers and found nothing I could use.

10 DVD's are nice, but I am not looking to buy DVD's, so I don't feel that is worth the $10 monthly cost.

The software LaurieK so graciously referred me to, only works with WINDOWS computers.

I was interested in the 24 days at 24HOUR FITNESS but, that could only be used from 8 am to 9 pm.
The whole reason I was interested in this was because I run into 24HOUR FITNESS centers when I travel.
They appeal to me because I can use them during the late hours - AFTER 9pm!

There was a nice offer for a free round trip airline ticket, for test driving a luxury car - expired!

I've been up and down ALL of the current lists at FreebieForce!

I don't mean to trash FF, I am just trying to find out if there is something I can get from it to justify the cost. Maybe something I missed.

It sounds like people are doing well with the business offer, but as you pointed out, I have a number of 'interests' I am promoting already.

Some of them are doing good for me, some not.
It's just my current strategy to list as many of the GOOD ones as I can, in my sig. line.

And I'll bet we all have at least 10 or more 'interests' we have become involved in as we pursue an online income.
The ones I feel are still worthy of promoting, I put in my sig. line here at the WAH forum.

I can understand that it might look better if I only had one or two down there.
Maybe I'll try that strategy as well one day.

All I was looking for with FF was some 'free' stuff, worthy of the price, like the website promised.
I'm glad for you all if you found that.

I didn't.



Still, it seems to me that what I hear most about with FF is the business opportunity - selling the plan to others. That seems to be the idea behind the post that Mr FredVDL addressed to me.

All I wanted was the 'free' stuff.

If I found that to be worthwhile, I could see promoting the business plan - which would give me yet ANOTHER interest to lose focus on!

All I wanted was the 'free' stuff.

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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 23:19 · Edited by: LaurieK
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TJamMoneyMan:
If I found that to be worthwhile, I could see promoting the business plan - which would give me yet ANOTHER interest to lose focus on!


TJam,

You seem to be doing something I've done in the past in a different way, so I can understand better than you might think....

Just because you have not found any Freebies to be of interest to you SO FAR (remember, multiple new ones are posted every day), you automatically assume that others will feel the same way as you do.

The first time I saw the Bath and Body Works coupon for $11 off with any purchase, it barely even registered because I am sensitive to strong fragrances and avoid them like the plague!

But MANY others in Freebie Force went crazy for that coupon! One couple printed multiple copies and used them on 13 different trips to the store!

Another member of my team loved a coupon for some free perfume from Clinique and devised a way to print 4 on a page to use as a prospecting tool, giving them away to others.

This is just one really obvious example... I HATE strong perfumes and so it didn't occur to me that other people COULD get really excited about those freebies.

My upline mentioned to me just the other day, to instruct my team that when we are looking over the Freebies, we should be looking only about 20% for ourselves, and the other 80% with other people in mind, especially family, friends, acquaintances, etc.

When we find something specific that someone else would like, it's completely okay to send them the link or print out extra coupons, and so on, and share them. If they really like the freebies, they will want to know where to get more for themselves and others, too.

My point is -- and you still may not agree, and that's okay -- even though you have not found freebies currently offered that you feel interested in, you might think of other people who WOULD be interested... and the income opportunity is nice and simple, built so everyone can help everyone (a 5x7 forced matrix) and which can be very lucrative!

Like I think I said, I've tried many other opportunities, and even if I could manage to recruit people myself, usually very few IF ANY of my downline ever managed to recruit anyone themselves.....

In my Freebie Force team of 244 as of today, I have only personally sponsored 36 of them... THAT PROVES that this CAN be more easily duplicated by others than any other opportunity I've ever personally attempted.

I belong to the StarForce Team within Freebie Force, and what makes us different is that we SHARE all our team resources with anyone in Freebie Force, and that includes my team site plus the actual StarForce Team site and Forum....

We have a fast start manual, sample ads, banners, emails, more training info... and it's going to only get bigger and bigger. I also record all the important calls and post them to listen to ONLINE....

So we don't just TALK about support, we GIVE it.

I guess I would just conclude with, try not to pre-judge people based on your own interests.... obviously something is RIGHT with Freebie Force, because it is growing WILDLY and people ARE making money with it! One of the other best parts, on that issue, is that they pay TWICE a month, on the 1st and 3rd Wednesdays.

Still, I do believe that a person must have some kind of sincere belief in a program to be successful... if you just cannot imagine that other people WILL find value in the freebies that are not valuable to you, it will be much harder for you to succeed IF you decide to really give it a try.

~ Laurie

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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 23:44
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LaurieK:
My point is -- and you still may not agree, and that's okay -- even though you have not found freebies currently offered that you feel interested in, you might think of other people who WOULD be interested... and the income opportunity is nice and simple, built so everyone can help everyone (a 5x7 forced matrix) and which can be very lucrative!


I understand that LaurieK, and I appreciate your input.
Sometimes I find it harder to GIVE things away, then to sell them:
You wouldn't believe how much I went through trying to give people $25 via TRME!

Like I said though, I just wanted free stuff.
Free stuff that would be of value to ME, in all my selfishness!

I wasn't so serious by my 'lose focus' comment,
but I do already have enough in the way of business opp.s and matrices to promote.

My 'sails aren't set' against FF.
I am not full of 'negative energy'.
I am not trying to trash FF.
I just don't see the value in it that I would need to be excited about it and promote it to others.

Not everyone who disagrees with FF, is 'set against' FF, or negative.
But you, or anyone else, may want to consider what I have to say, if people in your downline start to drop out, or if a significant percentage of your incoming members don't purchase a subscription to FF, which has apparently already happened to at least one FF promoter on this thread.

FF may not work for me, but I sure hope it works for all of you!

good luck to ALL of you with FF!

sincerely,
tjmm

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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 23:50
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LaurieK:

Still, I do believe that a person must have some kind of sincere belief in a program to be successful...


THAT'S what I was looking for.
If I could believe in it, based on what it did for me, I could support it!

good luck to u LaurieK!

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