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USA1950
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2008 14:04 · Edited by: USA1950
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WARRANTIES4LESS: but I am curious, you have tracked you hits, good for you, but how many registered as free distributor?
Only 4 signed up and when I contacted them they said they didn't want to participate.
WARRANTIES4LESS: but again, how many in MLM are salespeople?
There is a group within WFL that I spoke with and most of them have had sales experience in one industry or another.
There was another company I was looking at and the individual who would have been my sponsor was in Real Estate previous. So what the exact numbers are I couldn't even guess, but there are probably more than we can imagine.
Like I said previously, I do look into things and ask questions.
One other thing, it's not just sales people who will excel in this type of environment, but also those who have worked in jobs that require good people skills.
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2008 17:03
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Thanks,
Always interesting to see how others are doing, but I do agree, sales skills or people skills, you have to have something more than just luck.
I am hoping the new array of products and services will turn up the numbers for everyone, I know I am glad to see lower price point given recession getting worse, so you have to have more than one product or service to offer people is what I learned long ago. This is why I work several businesses, but then again, I am full timer and workaholic. lol
Good luck to all, Mike
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2008 19:44
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WARRANTIES4LESS: I am hoping the new array of products and services will turn up the numbers for everyone
I am hoping that before they go public with it, they make sure that the current back office site is brought up to date. Still as of today the compensation plan has not been updated. Someone has also been into the site just recently and removed the second payment option for purchasing a warranty. Only option available is pay in full. But yet the retail site gives both options.
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2008 21:28
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Yes, I agree, and changes have to be up to date before promoting all these new products and services recently announced.
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USA1950
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# Posted: 3 Oct 2008 02:29 · Edited by: USA1950
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Well folks, the way I see it now, I wouldn't start counting your millions yet. The so called new program that is suppose to be added to the WFL program is just another run of the mill MLM trap. The trip to Dubai by the owner of WFL that was mentioned in a recent email was a good clue. A certain individual with a not so good reputation on the net is behind it. Mike, I sent you a private message regarding this with the website details and you can very well see that it pretty much matches up to what info has been sent out to WFL affiliates in a recent email. Free vacation, free gas card.
If WFL is to go on, and if they do add a new warranty service, then Scott Hirsch needs to come out and distance himself from a certain individual. Otherwise, he may just as well shut things down. It's pretty much apparent that by the lack of concern in making required updates to the current websites that he is taking a back seat to this. Otherwise, he would have had their IT person on this months ago. He should not let this DubaiMLM be associated with WFL in any way shape or form.
As far as the new President goes, he's just another follower. There hasn't been any communications from this person at all. What does that tell you. But it didn't take long to try and promote his own services to WFL affiliates as a benefit to us.
Mike, you also know the person behind the new programs that they are going to try and promote:
WARRANTIES4LESS: the first visible person involved was trashed, and even though he was not involved as officer or management, he was never the less bashed as a distributor. Rightfully so, I won't go into it hear, but may at a later date. You see, I go way way back with this person,
I'd like to see WFL as a program that will continue to promote a valuable service to those folks who own used vehicles and who have no choice but to keep them up and running, because they cannot afford to purchase a new one.
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# Posted: 3 Oct 2008 07:13
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Interesting,
I guess you know something I don't, for I didn't get involved to make millions, I am a realist, and know that few will ever make millions in any business, including myself.
As to who is involved, sorry, but I haven't heard a peep about Phil in over six months, for many of us made it clear from start that this was the wrong person to even be on a training call, and I guess it got through to Scott, for he was not ever associated with MLM, so obviously, how was he to know the infamous hypster, Phil? lol
OK, I must admit, when I heard of trip to Dubai, I was curious, but that is where the money is, so I will wait to see instead of assuming at this point. I didn't waste my time researching DubaiMLM, sorry, so I cannot comment on what I don't know about. Perhaps you can fill us in on who Scott met with, all I heard was it was about a new cell phone service? Was that what DubaiMLM was about?
Success to all, Mike
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# Posted: 3 Oct 2008 09:29 · Edited by: USA1950
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post deleted by me.
Will wait and see what happens from here on in.
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USA1950
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 09:02 · Edited by: USA1950
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Thought I give everyone who has been reading this tread an update.
There really isn't any.
I use to get weekly updates from my upline team. They held training webinars, that has stopped. They use to send emails with helpful hints on how to generate business, that has stopped.
1) No word yet from the Newly appointed President. Website still states new management team coming shortly.
2) Compensation plan has still not been updated.
3) Affiliates now only have 1 option for purchasing their own warranty, and that is by paying $1850.00 in full. This was changed with no advance notice to affiliates.
4) Retail site still gives retail customers 2 options for payment. Guess the affiliate needs to sell himself a warranty from his own retail site.
Items 2 , 3 & 4 where checked this morning before posting this.
WFL is suppose to be announcing a new warranty option, a gas card saving program, a travel website business for only $99.00 and a phone service that is to beat all phone services from Dubai.
If you have been reading this tread, you will see that WFL has had it share of problems with the current program and there are issues that still need to be resolved. Will be interesting to see how they intend to keep up with 3 or 4 more new programs.
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 16:23
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USA1950: Will be interesting to see how they intend to keep up with 3 or 4 more new programs.
FIRST they have to make good on WFL!
Who could trust getting into another venture with the same folx, if the first one isn't right???
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 16:16
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How about another update...... Well thought we have one ,but !!!!!! As I mentioned in previous postings, WFL had a problem with putting out HYPE. It seems they are still at it.
Here are a view brief snipits from a previous email sent out to affiliates. Just so you know ahead of time. No updates have been given and nothing new has been made available.
HERE IS A SNEAK PEAK PREVIEW OF WHAT'S COMING... by 10/10/2008
SAY GOODBYE TO YTB and all other EXPENSIVE TRAVEL OPPORTUNITIES...
SAY GOODBYE TO GAS ADDITIVE OPPORTUNITIES...
WFL will introduce an additional warranty... THE MILLION MILE WARRANTY... More detail in your NEXT EMAIL... As we just said additional not instead of...
ATTENTION INCREDIBLE NEWS... Anyone who purchased a WFL WARRANTY Will be getting a $2000 credit toward a SPECIAL OFFER... TO BE ANNOUNCED by October 3rd, 2008...
"HINT HINT HINT" This new product from WFL's Sister Company will enable every WFL Affiliate to sell a product that will be attractive to every successful network marketers and professionals who earns in excess of $100,000 a year for $4995 and earn a $2500 Commission...
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USA1950
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2008 11:46
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Howdy Folks.
How about another update. As of today, we are informed that in 72 hours we shall get a long overdue update. Time is a ticking !!!! Can't wait !!!!!!!!!!
Also !!!!!!! In 3 weeks we shall see a new WFL Website..... Wait and see for this one..........
Stay tuned !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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USA1950
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# Posted: 20 Oct 2008 12:33
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Howdy again
It's another update from WFL.
The long awaiting 72 hr update as previously mentioned has come and gone. No news folks. You would figure that if a company states that they will be providing a detailed update within 72 hrs, they would live up to their word. If there is a problem, then notify people that there is a delay.
Another wait and see situation, unless WARRANTIES4LESS has some inside scoop he'd like to share.
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2008 17:09
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Howdy
It's another update from the world of WFL.
" Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah !!!". Now did you get that ?
It was stated on the 16th, that within 72 hrs a detailed update was to be given to the membership. Still nothing. What started out as something with good intentions has gone sour. I've been down the road before of the silent updates and broken promises. It's what happens just before a failed business disappears.
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2008 19:42
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Phil is definitely involved - no doubt about it!
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USA1950
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2008 01:34
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Howdy Again
Just another update from WFL
Once again, here it is the 28th of Oct and still nothing. Back on the 16th it was stated that we will be getting a long overdue update within 72 hrs. Must be sending it by courier pigeon.
2 more weeks before we are to see a new website. Can't wait.......
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# Posted: 1 Nov 2008 18:59
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teamer: Phil is definitely involved - no doubt about it!
And you know this how? I haven't heard a peep about him for months, so no, he IS NOT involved, but he was, and I am glad he is long gone.
Success to all, Mike
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# Posted: 3 Nov 2008 13:34
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How about another update
If I had one to give, I would. Still no word from the new WFL Management Team. Nothing like being kept in the dark. Maybe they are working on a new Pre-Launch program. Being how the last one never made it out of pre-launch.
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# Posted: 4 Nov 2008 08:08
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Funny,
So often companies will launch and not have a clear picture of what is involved. This was presented as beta testing stage from start, and like any new business concept, taking a direct sale product and rolling it over to network marketing, there will be lessons to learn.
I still like the concept, for no one else was doing it, but like all new business strategies, it takes time to get it working, and sadly, they had the wrong management at start up, MLM recruiters, not real management, a mistake many MLM's make. Generally speaking, a good MLMer makes a terrible CEO, President or management. Only word I heard was this month, so time will tell.
Success to all, Mike
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2008 11:53
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Howdy Folks
How about another somewhat useless update:
The 72 hr update that was promised has since come and gone and now the 3 week time frame to see the new website is here and gone. Makes ya wonder. It's been since the 16th of Oct , when we last heard a peep from these people. I guess some folks made some nice money during the initial gold rush and now have moved on to newer things. Now we know why people are so skeptical when it comes to MLMs, Internet Marketing and Direct Marketing schemes.
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2008 13:45 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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USA1950: How about another somewhat useless update:
keep 'em comin' USA1950, this is great entertainment!
ROFL!!!
USA1950: It's another update from the world of WFL. " Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah !!!". Now did you get that ?
LMFAO!!
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# Posted: 13 Nov 2008 21:19
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USA1950: How about another somewhat useless update:
Funny,
You have entirely too much time on your hands. lol To make useless posts on a program you are obviously not interested in, why bother, move on, don't waste your time with MLM, it is obviously not for you.
Would you prefer a company to just close down instead of reorganize for the better? Just curious to know what you are gaining from your posts, or are you already one of the dark siders having quit MLM before you began?
Success to all, Mike
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# Posted: 14 Nov 2008 00:01
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You may think it funny Mike, but if a company is serious enough about keeping their membership alive they wouldn't go about sending people e-mails stating they are are to provide details in a certain time frame or have a updated website running by a certain time, and not have it done. They don't even bother keeping people informed.
WARRANTIES4LESS: why bother, move on, don't waste your time with MLM, it is obviously not for you.
Typical answer given when people don't like having the truth brought out.
Being you are one of the Master Distributors, why don't you enlighten us with your wisdom.
1) Why hasn't the current website been updated to show the current compensation plan?
2) Why does the current site only have one option for purchasing a warranty by the affiliate?
3) Why doesn't the site tell people that they are giving their first sale to their upline?
You expect people to promote a business that can't keep it's house straight. You yourself stated in a private message that Scott was not liking how sales have dropped. Wonder why that was happening Mike. Maybe too much typical MLM hype. I guess you guys can point your fingers to Phil now blame him and the other MLMers who where running things, ((WARRANTIES4LESS: they had the wrong management at start up, MLM recruiters, not real management, a mistake many MLM's make.
Don't even give me this line of BS !!
WARRANTIES4LESS: are you already one of the dark siders having quit MLM before you began?
I spent money promoting this, I got hits to my site, but got nothing to show for it. WARRANTIES4LESS: lol To make useless posts on a program
Not really useless, Just shows how irresponsible management is towards it's members. Once again, if you state you are going to do something, then do it. If there is a problem then advise the membership. It's called COMMUNICATIONS...... Maybe you don't feel that's important enough. I sure as hell do.......
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# Posted: 14 Nov 2008 20:34 · Edited by: WARRANTIES4LESS
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Sad,
Sorry, but what is typica herel is what people get out of constant complaining about what they are no longer interested in. You said you got hits, but nothing out of it, and you also have voiced your disappointment, so why are you still posting, what purpose does it serve, who is it helping at this point, anyone still committed will await the new management and site to be finalized, and if it does not happen as initially stated, oh well, that is life, I have seen this a hundred times.
All that matters to me is they get it done, when, it doesn't matter, I don't rely on any one business just because this is normal in the industry, so I guess I am more conditioned to it than most. As I have mentioned before, it is far worse when a company just shuts its doors and stops paying, and this was never the case with WFL, I am still getting paid, so I will remain patient.
Believe me, if I was not getting paid, or warranty was not being honored, then I would be pissed, but this is not the case, so I remain hopeful they will be in business for years to come, as I looked at this as a long term business, not the usual fad shot in the dark deals, these are the ones who have harmed the industry reputation, so time will tell, but I will give Scott the benefit of doubt given he made the decision to get a new management team in place, and this is no easy thing to accomplish in a month since announcement.
Again, you are lashing out in frustration because your efforts to get hits didn't convert to sales, but if they had, you would have been paid, like everyone else was, so perhaps the hits your were getting were like so many, not qualified, or worse, those guaranteed hit deals sold all over the internet which are all scams. Again, move on, you are only going to bog yourself down with this wasted effort to vent your negative lack of results with WFL. Perhaps you should read your posts, it is so obvious you are angry, so what is important is you let it go, it is not worth getting all hell bent over.
Success to all, Mike
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# Posted: 12 Jan 2009 15:27
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Well, I registered and have not heard from anyone except the Thank You For Registering response. I sent email to the company & my sponsor & nothing, nothing, nothing. Does anyone know what is going on?
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USA1950
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# Posted: 13 Jan 2009 23:38
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Good Luck DayDreamer, another program that got input from a scammer, and disappeared. It's been since 16 Oct 08 since their email was sent out to the members, promising an update. Suppose to get new management team to run things. I got an email from my upline just about 2 weeks ago promoting a new phone service. Go figure....
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# Posted: 14 Jan 2009 02:25
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DayDreamer: I sent email to the company & my sponsor & nothing, nothing, nothing. Does anyone know what is going on?
That IS what's going on with WFL DD - NOTHING!
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2009 13:21
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And another one bites the dust it looks like.
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2009 12:30
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Good News: Warranties For Less is up and running. They have updated the website and I have been receiving emails from my sponsor. You need to contact your sponsor if your having problems.
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USA1950
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2009 08:53 · Edited by: USA1950
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DayDreamer, don't know what website you are looking at, but both sites still look the same as they did in October. No new Mgmt Team and they still only have one purchase price option for affiliates and on the retail site they offer 2 purchase options. There are no changes to either site.
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2009 13:08
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 You should contact your sponsor so you can get updated. I enrolled two & sold three warranties in the last three days. I'm working on a couple used car dealers also.
Good Luck
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