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formvals
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 15:23
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 Just came accross this one, looks
good, but who knows for sure, Look forward
to your post on this. Thanks
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 16:48
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sorry, dunno. I'll check it out.
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loriquil
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# Posted: 8 Jan 2008 19:14 · Edited by: loriquil
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I did sign up for it and yes it does seem legit but I did not have the time to commit to it and still do my current at home business.
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# Posted: 8 Mar 2008 22:07
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Any of you that joined OBA - did you just buy the ebook for $5 or did you buy the advertising package for $30?
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2008 12:51
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I am a member of Online Business Alliance. I signed up under a lady that holds her own training calls on Saturday. She is a web 2.0 guru and I have learned so much from her. I have also educated myself through other programs and I make sales with OBA through video marketing and social networking sites.
I get multiple $5 payments as well as $20 payments from my sign ups. This is probably the best income opportunity for anyone getting into internet marketing for the first time and wants to experiment at a low cost investment.
You will get an entire turn-key and marketing system for only $5. I know this is really hard for people to believe but it is true.
If you sign up, you will not go wrong with your purchase. Send me a private message if you want to learn more about it. I will be your mentor and you will be shown exactly what to do.
Wishing everyone much success
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2008 10:52 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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Just joined a few days ago!
I can't imagine going wrong with this.
You only pay $5!
Even the $30 option is a 'one time payment only' deal!
I WAS selling a "$5" plan called 5byMillions.
Basically some E-b.s. that the buyer turns around and sells for themselves.
Not bad in that it did get me quite a few sales - this with little to NO effort on my part. Just a bit of Auto surfing, and safelist ads.
I did this for about a week, and got several sales over a period of about 8 weeks after that.
I was unable to promote this after the first week of effort though because my computer crashed on me.
In any event, 5byMillions could only generate $5 payouts at best.
AND,
it eventually deteriorated into requiring the buyer to also purchase web hosting for a minimum of $3 per month.
ALSO, one has to actually BUILD the 5byMillions website for you - unless you can do the deed yourself.
This alone caused some consternation among buyers - and I can hardly blame them!
It didn't start out that way.
At the beginning you could use any hosting service at your disposal.
That meant the entire plan could be had for no more than $5 total cost - you just had to have your own web building and hosting plan.
Since I had advertised it as a '$5 Total Cost' plan, I started to have reservations.
PLUS, who wants to have to pay even $3 a month, unless there are enough sales to justify it?
I could have probably pushed the promotional efforts more but, well, who wants to be paying $3 a month unless...?
PLUS, I want to be able to tell someone that $5 is indeed the TOTAL COST!
People seem willing to make a $5 purchase pretty readily.
I like the fact that OBA is indeed $5 TOTAL COST!
I haven't done promotions yet but I can only imagine, if people are willing to buy 5byMillions, which can only get you $5 sales at BEST, AND it requires $3 a month or more (I was paying $6/mo. for hosting), then buying into OBA should be a NO BRAINER.
ESPECIALLY, since you pay NOTHING ELSE!
The website is BUILT, and HOSTED.
All you have to do is promote it!
AND there is the $30 option which can apparently generate LOTS of $20 payouts.
There is also the $12 per month advertising option that looks promising, but not essential.
(It's $24/month, with a 6 month pre-pay option that gets you an entire year when you pay 6 months in advance - which comes out to $12 per month of course.)
These two options look VERY promising, but you can just go with the $5 plan until you get sales.
That's what I did but.
But, the first $30 I come across will definitely go into buying the ad space option!
Right now, for me the bottom line is this:
If folx will purchase 5byMillions, they would HAVE to be willing to buy into OBA.
It's a MUCH better plan!
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2008 12:28
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Yeah, its alright.
I just plugged it into my sig-line in a few places and I was
making sales pretty fast.
Its not a bad value for the information they include and the
back-office and system are well thought out... especially
the Aweber affiliate integration.
To be honest, there isn't any "REAL" money to be made with
this program. I have always made the most money with
bigger-ticket sales in this business.
OBA is a list-builder that pays a little - thats all. I did upgrade
to the 1-up advertising thing... not a bad idea.
OBA is an "impulse buy" sort of thing. The "Stop Being A Victim"
ebook can save people a lot of money and grief... its really
a great value.
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2008 23:14 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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malibumentor: Yeah, its alright. I just plugged it into my sig-line in a few places and I was making sales pretty fast. Its not a bad value for the information they include and the back-office and system are well thought out... especially the Aweber affiliate integration. To be honest, there isn't any "REAL" money to be made with this program. I have always made the most money with bigger-ticket sales in this business.
I don't know the whole story because I just started with OBA.
From the tone of your post though, it doesn't seem as though you didn't do very much to promote OBA.
It doesn't seem like you had much of an advertisement campaign going on either.
Just my observations.
And, your 'bigger-ticket' plan costs $4,000!!!
Who can afford that?
If you can, you are already making money pretty well online or offline.
OBA seems infinitely more affordable.
They have low cost options and higher payout options as well.
The website automatically converts, and can generate sales on all the various payout levels OBA has to offer.
That seems like a more practical starting point than trying to sell someone on a $4000 deal. Especially when one is new to the online biz concept.
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2008 05:30
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How much can be made with OBA with the basic $5 plan?
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kehk05: How much can be made with OBA with the basic $5 plan?
Wish I could tell you kehko5.
OBA has a very supportive forum.
I will put that question out there and see what happens.
So many 'plans' have a low cost entry deal.
And of course, they will want to get you in on a higher cost plan asap.
I don't think that's a bad thing, as long as the low-cost option really works.
Still, I don't know of anyone serious about making money, who wouldn't choose to upgrade if it doesn't cost much, like at OBA.
I mean if you are really trying to see 'how much can be made' you would probably want to get beyond the $5 payment level right away.
But, if you are experimenting that's another story!
Maybe I can get an answer for you on this.
Maybe not!
good luck either way, with whatever you do!
tjmm
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2008 13:39
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Basically, you can't lose money with the $5 plan, and possibly make a small chunk of cash just on that plan alone? And is the $30 upgrade fee really just a one-time deal? There's no other investments after that or are there more upgrades and/or products to purchase?
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2008 14:55
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There are no other costs.
Even the $5 plan has no other obligation.
And the $5 plan of course is not just a plan.
It is a PRODUCT with the OBA business as an option.
You can take the OBA product you purchased and be done with it.
OR, you can work the OBA business option.
There are really some good products too.
I noticed a web recorder that you can use on any website to add any audio of your own choosing. There is music available to use as a background if you want.
I believe there are also pre-recorded voice tracks if you don't want to talk yourself - but don't quote me on this.
As for me, a musician, I use a Macintosh computer.
The voice recorder - IMPACT WEB AUDIO, only runs on windows.
For that reason, I don't know much about it.
I don't know how much you value ebooks, but there are a ton available for sale at OBA.
You can choose to sell whatever product you like.
There are a LOT of ebooks you can choose to sell as your $5 web offer.
Each one sells at the OBA price of $5.
I am told they sell for $25 normally.
I am kind of impressed with IMPACT WEB AUDIO and I could use that as my $5 offer if I want to but, being a MAC user, I can't offer much in the way of personal reference, so I'll be avoiding that one for now.
Being new to OBA a lot of this is new to me as well.
One good thing about OBA is their forum which answers questions QUICKLY 24/7.
I got an answer to your question about how much you can earn at the $5 level but it wasn't specific enough for me to foward it to you - basically they stated the obvious - it's up to you!
I resubmitted the Q emphasizing a response from someone who ONLY used the $5 option, and what kind of money he made.
I'll foward that answer to you when it comes in.
Of course, it truly is up to you. No one can say how well you will do.
And personal results are invaluable but, I can tell you, most folks serious about earning money will upgrade to the ONE TIME COST of leasing ad space #1. So it might be a little difficult to find someone who only operates at the $5 level.
I am about to ask some forum questions myself, like how much money folks are making at the upgrade level of leasing ad space #1, after an extended period of time.
That said, there are other ways of earning more with OBA but not at all mandatory, and most folks will just go with the leasing of ad space #1.
No, there is no ad space #2 that you have to mull over - yet!
But to be honest, you can lease as many ad space #1's as you like.
Each one, being an ad space, also offers a program you can buy into and sell, on that same ad space.
Basically, you can put a lot of money into OBA, and set yourself up for higher payouts, or just go with the $5 option.
I and most sane folx seem to go with the $5 plan, plus the leasing of ad space #1.
The forum at OBA is tremedously helpful, and will generally answer your questions in MINUTES, 24/7. There are advanced members there to help you, as well as the site admin.
You can also join their VIP plan - only $12 BUT it has certain requirements that make it not right for everyone.
They will work with you hand in hand, and they have a plan to guarantee you a certain number of sign ups, BUT, you have to follow some very reasonable rules - like not promoting anything else other than OBA.
That's the only weighty matter but, anyone will tell you that the best way to earn money online is to STICK WITH ONE PROGRAM!
Until you get the results you seek anyway.
Other than that, with the VIP option, they just ask you to dedicate yourself working a little harder, and helping the members.
Not for everyone but, I am seriously considering it.
BUT, you aren't even eligible for the VIP plan until you have been a member of OBA for 30 days or more.
I know I have put some loooonnnng posts out there, and I am sorry to have to put all THESE words before you, but I think this is covers all the bases as far as how much money can be made and spent with OBA.
You can truly stick with the $5 option, and spend nothing else, until you are ready, and earning.
That's my plan (plus the leasing of ad space #1).
Of course, you will have to advertise which will be another expense of time &/or money but again, that's up to you!
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2008 14:57
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The $30 'fee' is actually a $10 fee, plus the $20 cost of leasing ad space #1. The $20 goes to whoever holds the current lease - which will be YOU if you lease ad space #1.
This generates $20 payouts for you, in addition to the $5 payouts.
WHEW!!
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# Posted: 31 Mar 2008 16:45 · Edited by: malibumentor
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I wouldn't want to lead people to believe that this has
more potential than it does. When you are selling something
for $5 with paid advertising its often difficult to break even,
so this falls into what I call the "GDI trap" - the commissions
are small and that pretty much rules out anything but
free advertising.
Actually TJ, plenty of people can afford a $4k program, and
I have lower-commitment options as well. How much $ people
invest is, and should be, largely a matter of market positioning.
Businesses that want to reap large harvests with less investment in advertising invest in upper-end positioning.
This holds true throughout the internet marketing industry. Most
of the serious players roll out a $1k Plus Info-product as soon
as they have the market influence to do so.
Inexpensive, entry-level products like OBA have some virtues
though, because they open the door to a relationship with
a new customer who may be too timid to come in with a more
costly purchase.
Here's the rub though -
The people who buy the $4k product aren't the same ones who
buy the OBA product. Seriously. Lots of people won't even take
a serious look at something that costs under a $1000 to get started. Its weird that people think this way but they do. People
equate price with quality and many people want quality and are
willing to pay for it.
When you aren't in a position to offer a bigger-ticket opportunity
those prospects will go elsewhere and you'll miss out on the profits,
and often further selling opportunities as well.
Here's an illustration: This past week I spoke with a lady who
absolutely wanted nothing to do with AmWay - and her
impressions of that company carried over to other mult-level
programs. She wanted that wasn't MLM. If all I had to offer
was MLM opportunity she would have moved on - she was looking
for a straightforward, lucrative program with large payouts.
Its goes the same way for smaller-ticket things two - Sometimes
people will be attracted to the Big Profits of direct selling programs
like Jaguar-MS but they aren't in a position to get started and they
ask me about lower-priced options.
I'm all for OBA - but there's not much money in it. Dave Gray's
(the founder of OBA) instructions that you should focus on OBA
only are ridiculous - I understand his motives, but the truth is
that if you want to reap big profits the OBA business model is
not the ticket - It just requires too many customers to see
a lot of cash-flow.
Still - I recommned it and the Ebooks are really quite informative
and if people read them they will save a lot of money by not getting
involved in scams.
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2008 03:16
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Those are some good points that I'll be keeping in mind.
I simply can NOT afford a $4k program, no matter what the payoff.
Same for a $1k program.
It pretty much keeps going down hill from there until you get under $100.
However many people can afford to kick out $4k, there's gotta be more people willing to pay a lesser amount!
I do notice the problem you mentioned with the cost of advertising v. smaller payouts though.
And there are higher payout options within OBA as you are aware.
I'll just have to see what I can do with my budget of time and money.
In my particular situation, I really don't need to be making a great deal of money for an online biz to payoff for me.
High payouts are just not a necessity - especially if I can't afford to generate them in the first place!
I'll just be looking to see if this pays off well for me, at the level I need it to.
Still,
it's good to hear a well thought out opposing viewpoint!
I will definitely be keeping some of this in mind as I work with OBA.
thanx,
tjmm
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2008 03:20
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malibumentor: Actually TJ, plenty of people can afford a $4k program, and I have lower-commitment options as well. How much $ people invest is, and should be, largely a matter of market positioning
I'd like to know more about those 'lower-commitment' options.
And, how much $ people invest is also largely a matter of how much $ they have to invest in the first place!
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# Posted: 1 Apr 2008 03:56
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malibumentor: Dave Gray's (the founder of OBA) instructions that you should focus on OBA only are ridiculous
I was kinda wondering about that!
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Just a bit of history on OBA. Originally it was called IGAM - I give away money. I was in that program. It was an aussie 2up, paying and passing up the first two actual 'paid' members ($25 each) to the one above you. Several weeks after my being in the the program, IGAM went down. When they came back up, they had a new name OBA and an initial product... the ebook plus the sales of advertising. I believe, if memory serves me... this was around end of 2006, beginning of 2007.
As has been stated numerous times- some programs work well for some, but not all work for the masses. You have to find what works for you. Just thought I would share some history having been there.
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JenniferF: Just a bit of history on OBA. Originally it was called IGAM - I give away money.
Interesting!
Funny how it comes in at just about the same price - $25!
{anyone serious about making OBA money would no doubt lease ad space #1 for the $30 cost, and multiple (hopefully!!) $20 payouts.}
I wonder what the story is on that changeover?!!
Perhaps I need to google OBA a bit!
I'll be looking into how OBA actually works.
I've gotten a couple of sales from my meager marketing efforts so far.
I've rented my first ad space - giving my first customer to my sponsor.
Now I am supposed to get paid directly for each ad space, customer I get.
Ad space rental or not, I get the pittance $5 payout from any conversion at all - hopefully those will accumulate.
Whatever the outcome, I don't plan to do a mountain of work, just for $5 payouts but, I have seen that people WILL make a $5 purchase fairly readily.
I was selling products of faaar less value for $5 and $6, and getting quite a few sales - with little to NO effort.
But you could never get more than $5 or $6 from those plans.
OBA, is definitely a better deal for only $5.
And there are $20 and $30 payouts to be had as well!
This COULDN'T do any worse!
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JenniferF: Several weeks after my being in the the program, IGAM went down. When they came back up, they had a new name OBA and an initial product... the ebook plus the sales of advertising. I believe, if memory serves me... this was around end of 2006, beginning of 2007.
I did notice mention of IGAM in the OBA forum.
There seem to be a number of previously IGAM members in OBA.
Did they do you right in the changeover?
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 12:57
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TJamMoneyMan: Did they do you right in the changeover?
To my knowledge many stayed on and are still in it. I didn't stay and will be glad to explain why, but not in an open forum.
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# Posted: 14 Apr 2008 21:55
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I started with IGAM in July 2006 and was with them when they "fell" so to speak in Nov 2006 and carried over my membership to the OBA, and although I'm not an "active" member at the moment, I still have my membership and visit the forum frequently to stay informed. I have a customer list of I believe is still 14 members, but of course only one of those members became somewhat involved in their business for a short time..then disappeared..none of the others got involved and wouldn't even reply to my emails to help them.
If you can build an active customer base who takes advantage of the opportunities in their back offices to lease ad spaces and join and stay with the programs advertised in the ad spaces..then the potential to make good money with OBA is there. However the problem is getting your $5 customers to take advantage of the opportunities and stick with it. If you get nothing but do-nothing customers like I did..you won't make anything but the $5 they gave you for the E-book they purchased. So the same thing holds true here as with any other online opportunity. If you only get people in your group who won't try and work the program after they join..then you are just beating your head against the wall trying to make any money. That's pretty much why I have moved on to other things. But I will say the admin at OBA is wonderful and everyone there will help you every way they can if you make the effort to ask.
As for IGAM, it was constantly under fire by many people who didn't understand what the program was all about and was constantly being accused as being a ponzi scheme then it ultimately was shut down by the admins ISP after several complaints of spam against one or more members and so after fighting it out with his ISP..the admin decided to let IGAM go and started the OBA in which we all had a hand in helping to name and create from the beginning and built it to the business it is today.
Hope this has answered some of your questions.
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freebird658: it ultimately was shut down by the admins ISP after several complaints of spam against one or more members and so after fighting it out with his ISP..the admin decided to let IGAM go and started the OBA in which we all had a hand in helping to name and create from the beginning and built it to the business it is today. Hope this has answered some of your questions.
Moreover, your reply helps me understand why they are so unusually hyper about people not using OBA ads in ANY email.
Even safelists!!
I have seen many people ask this question in the OBA forum.
Their reply as to why safelists, with their system of verifying the recipient as a subscriber to the emails, were unacceptable, never mentioned this.
Maybe this was covered in a different section of their forum but I never got any reference. Anyway, it's good, I would think, that the IGAM members had a hand in setting up OBA.
But of course, the only salient issue is how much money you make!
My only paying customer so far did lease ad space #1 so that's a good thing.
I don't think anyone serious about making money with OBA would not try to lease ad space #1 if nothing else!
I have sold $5/$6 plans that had almost nothing going for them compared to OBA, so I'll see what I can make happen with this.
For me the bottom line is how much money you make, considering the time and money invested.
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Hello TJ,
The money varies and it depends on you and the customers you bring in.
You make $5 for every product you sell. Which puts that customer in your customer list..if they are interested in building their own business with your help and the help of all the others in the OBC then they also will sell $5 products and they will Lease adspaces from YOU and join the programs in the ad spaces and they will also be bringing in their own customers who will lease ad spaces and join the programs advertised. Each one of your customers must pass up their first adspace lease to you and so on and so forth.
There are several adspaces you work up to depending on if you are ready to invest in them. If anyone of your customers do not lease an adspace but makes a $5 sale to a customer who does lease you get the money from the lease. Each lease is priced at different levels with the first earning you unlimited $20 the second I think is $30 and so on.
I hope I was able to clarify this for you a little better, so if you do the math you can figure for yourself the unlimited earning potential.
But you need to get customers and you need to help them understand how all of this works. And with serious people who really want to make money YOU can make excellent money. But if you get nothing but lazy people who won't work or just want a free ride you won't. Of course you may only get people who just wants the products and not the business..but thats still $5 in your pocket whether they do anything else or not.
The programs advertised in the adspaces are designed to pay you residual monthly income from the downlines you build from your customers who joined them through your adspaces. The money to be made in those programs alone can really add up. And your downlines will grow in these programs without you having to do anything more than sell your $5 OBA product.
So if you are able to bring in a good group who is willing and able to lease the adspaces and join the programs under you and stay in them, and you can do this consistently..you will make thousands!
That is why nobody can tell you how much you will make because there is so many factors involved. But you can make as much as you want to make..there is no limit. It just depends on your efforts and the efforts of your group you bring in.
I hope this helped answer your question.
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# Posted: 16 Apr 2008 13:09
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Most buyers won't follw through to set up the OBA
business. $5.oo isn't much of an incentive.
The $5.oo price tag gets people to buy the book but
most people who buy ebooks only read a few pages
anyway. This is well-known in internet marketing circles.
In my experience when there is greater investment
there is greater commitment. In the USA five bucks
isn't much of a commitment. To somebody in Africa it
might be a big deal and that person might take
it a lot more seriously.
Of 17 people who bought the ebook from me so far
only 3 have completed their back-office setup -
showing their intention to promote the program.
One guy bought the Adspace.
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malibumentor: Of 17 people who bought the ebook from me so far only 3 have completed their back-office setup - showing their intention to promote the program.
Yeah, $5 can make people look down upon an opportunity.
I have a lot harder time than I can understand getting people to GET PAID $25, just to join TRME - a free to join payment processor.
Here it is someone will GIVE THEM MONEY, and they devalue the opp. as "too good to be true" & "there's gotta be a catch".
Of course, these people know nothing at all about what a payment processor is.
They don't know much about internet marketing either.
Lots of those who know though, will take the opp. and run with it.
How did you get those 17 sales?
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I sold 1 today so that puts it at 18.
How I sold 18 units of the OBA $5.oo ebook -
I just put links on several of my Veretekk portals
and on the side of my blog and in my sigline on
1 forum where I have made some informative posts.
I have traffic and I have continuity in my marketing -
its far from perfect but I present a somewhat unified
impression that I promote worthwhile stuff.
If I wanted to put the work into it I would build a
squidoo lens and comment on blogs and things like that
to get backlinks to the lens. There are a lot of other
things I could do if I wanted to promote OBA more,
but my test is showing not much of a tendency for
people to follow through and promote it.
Let me put it this way - I could do all this blog stuff and
backlinks and everything to sell that one $5.oo ebook
to people who probably won't read it or benefit or
promote it... or I could promote something where I make
a lot more money on the sale.
Either way you stack it there is a definite correlation between
investment and commitment. If you are building a sales
organization or downline you want you people to be
committed because if they aren't any results they get will
be just dumb luck - usually bad dumb luck.
I was a little reluctant to promote OBA to my list of big-ticket
opportunity seekers, but I emailed the list once as a test
and nobody bought!
Some people will only buy low-price things. Some people
will only buy higher-priced things. Its funny. Its just human
nature to connect value with price.
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# Posted: 26 May 2008 17:57 · Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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TJamMoneyMan: Some people will only buy low-price things. Some people will only buy higher-priced things. Its funny. Its just human nature to connect value with price.
Yes Mailbumentor,
People are a TRIP!!
I have gotten all kinds with OBA.
Those who don't do much of anything, and those that promote well.
I had one 'eager beaver' customer who wouldn't respond to any emails I sent!
Trying to be slick, he went on to develop his OBA downline, BUT was surprised when I got paid for TWO of HIS customers.
Caught up in trying to get $5 payments, he neglected to lease Ad Space #1 which will get you $20 payments!!
He didn't realize that ANY of those $5 customers may want to go further, and get $20 and $30 payments instead of just $5 payments.
I would have told him so, had he responded to my emails!
Had he visited the OBA forum, THEY would have told him the same thing!
Had he read just about ANYTHING on the OBA site - to include the e-book he paid $5 for, he would have found that out real quick!!
But noooo!
Mr Slick, is gonna get all those $5 payments, without taking anyone's advice!
Without even TRYING to find out what OBA is all about.
Soooo, thanx to this customer, I wound up getting FOUR $20 payments this week!
Ib addition to FOUR $5 payments!
So guess what?
I AM GOING TO LEASE AD SPACE #3 TODAY!!
That will put me in line for $30 payments!
$5 payments are good, but at OBA that is just the BEGINNING!
You want to get those $20 and $30 payments don't you?
Hell, I GIVE my $5 OBA biz to certain people FOR FREE, just for the follow up payouts!
Don't get hung up on getting $5 payments at OBA!
There's MUCH more to OBA than $5 payments!!
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It's nice to find this OBA thread on the WAHF.
Actually it's nice to find the WAHF Forum.
I've been with OBA for a while and spend most of my day in an out
of the OBC (That looks like a Forum but is the heartbeat of OBA).
An average of 20 or so people are joining OBA daily and registering
in the OBC.
Whenever they post questions for help I try to answer as best I
can. It's not always easy to be the first to answer as there are
members from all over the world so there is 24/7 coverage.
Un OBA people confuse online business with online program.
Un OBA people call OBA a program.
OBA is an online business.
Each person involved is an online business owner.
The success of each OBA business is the result of the skills of each
individual OBA business owner.
There are a lot of people for whom OBA is not suited.
My suggestion is try it out for 5 years.
Anyway, the kind of person I would like with me in my OBA is one
who will stick with me for 5 years or so so we can help other like
minded people do the same.
Jame$
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formvals: Just came accross this one, looks good, but who knows for sure, Look forward to your post on this. Thanks
What is the Online Business Alliance?
An Honest Review
I stumbled across what appeared to be a legitimate money-making opportunity a few months ago. It is a program called the Online Business Alliance (OBA).
While it sounded reasonable to pay a simple 5.00 fee to purchase an eBook, and at the same time, receive a membership to the Online Business Alliance where you can have access to a wealth of information about starting an online business.
What it really turned out to be, is a front-end for an individual calling himself Dave. Now what Dave has created in reality is the ultimate lie. Dave is nothing more then a network marketer that has created the ultimate recruiting machine. Ever individual that joins the OBA is offered the opportunity to purchase what Dave calls "AdSpaces," which are nothing more then memberships into other network marketing programs that Dave is already a member. By doing this, you immediately become a down-line member of Dave's multi-level-marketing (MLM) stream of income.
Sure, Dave makes it appear as though he is helping people start their own business. He touts the business plan information, marketing strategies, etc. But what Dave doesn't tell you is how you have just become another down-line member in his own MLM. Dave is making money off of every single person in OBA, not only from the money they pay to OBA, but to the money they pay to the other MLM programs (ooops, Dave calls them AdSpaces). What a joke!
Now you may ask, how do I know these things? Well, I joined OBA to find out what type of a program it really was. Oh, by the way, Dave tells me that OBA is not a "program," but rather a "business" that you own and operate, and he does nothing more then provide you information.
Well, I did find some wonderful people that participate regularly in the user forums, and you can find a wealth of information sharing going on in those forums. However, if you want to make any real money as a member of OBA, you must do so by buying and selling AdSpaces (Dave's personal down-line wealth formula for his own riches)!
Anytime I questioned Dave or disagreed with Dave in the user forums, I was blatantly chastised on the forums by Dave, where he would twist my words, called me a liar, and clearly stated that I was dishonest. That was the final straw. As a retired Veteran and businessman that owns and operates two successful brick-and-mortar businesses, my integrity and honesty are of the utmost importance to me. To have someone getting rich off of people through sheer deception call me a liar and a dishonest person was the final straw!
Do you want to be part of a Socialist Regime operated by a lunatic MLMer?
My recommendation on OBA?
RUN, Don't Walk to the Nearest Exit.
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