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sdcindy
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 10:58
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No problem Deb. Remember, you have the "power" since your credit card company will help even if you can't get through to LCM.
Cheers,
Cindy
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ladyinred
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 18:22
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I Like free programs
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wealthymarket
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 19:28
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LOL Free does tend to take all that stress out, huh? lol I go for cheap ones, specifically...then use commissions to pay for more expensive ones...that way I'm not out anything.
I have done more and more resarch on lawnchair millionaires, and--while I was very interested at first--I am finding that more and more people are growing to be dissatisfied with them. I'm definitely steering fully clear of that one.
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sdcindy
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2008 19:44
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Yeah, I did Lawnchair Millionaire for a while and was pretty successful. But there were some things I didn't like about it so I am getting out.
Actually, I decided to get more serious about what I want to do to earn money on the internet. I am thinking about trying my hand at niche marketing which is how I got involved with Frank Kern. So, that's my focus now.
Good luck all,
Cindy
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flymysky
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2008 21:43
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I think it's a scam. Just signed up today. The red flags are:
1. More money to spend after you join that they don't tell you about ($40-$60 for a debit card so you can get paid, for example).
2. The "Vault" is a joke. It consists of 3 other money-making programs, one of which isn't even available in the U.S., and the other two are programs (Freedom Rocks and 60-second Investor, or something like that) that both trade the stock market and cost more money, Freedom Rocks, especially. Good programs, but they're not exactly a secret in a "vault." And they're certainly not free. They say in their explanation of The Lawnchaire Millionaire that what you're getting in the Vault is "access" to incredible money-making information ... uhhh ... their affiliate link, they mean.
For those who bit before they checked this and other forums to see if it was a scam, I'd like you to know that I called up Citibank and had the charge removed from my account. Took about a minute. If you have second thoughts, you can just call your credit card company and tell them you found out it's a scam, and ask them to reverse the charge.
Best wishes!
Roshana
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formvals
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2008 15:36
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 Hi I heard from a good source, someone that got a refund after only 2 weeks that the product was not top quality, what do you think? Thanks
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 2 Feb 2008 10:43
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Quoting: flymysky For those who bit before they checked this and other forums to see if it was a scam, I'd like you to know that I called up Citibank and had the charge removed from my account
I don't know how anyone can sign up for LCM after reading this thread!
Did you get your $50 "setup fee" returned, or just the $29?
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formvals
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2008 17:58
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Yes I heard it was hyped up and the product was not
up to value, what have you discovered so far?
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2008 19:38
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Quoting: formvals what have you discovered so far?
A greater percentage of dissatisfied to those who are satisfied.
And check this thread.
Those who promised to share news of their success have DISappeared!
Telling!!
In any event, it'll set you back $50 just to take a peek behind the hype.
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makemoneyonline
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2008 15:27
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hmm very interesting. Thanks flymysky.
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emmjay
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# Posted: 10 Feb 2008 15:47 � Edited by: emmjay
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Just reading through this thread was enough to keep my money in my pocket.I was able to get involved in a legit business for the same money due to a promo.Hope not too many people lose their $50 with no return.
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Sally23
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2008 22:07
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Thanks for the post I will call clickbank to try and get my money back from LCM. I thought I would have 2 wks to evaluate the program and get 100% refund if I canceled. It has been 30 days, I can't leave a msg on LCM support line and emails are only auto response. I trusted the program because Mike G was involved. I feel so scammed!!!
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westfam11
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# Posted: 17 Mar 2008 23:19
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I talked with someone today who is in Lawnchair Millionaire who is a very honest person and he says he has a residual commission of $1500.00 per month and is recruiting 15-20 new people each month. Just wanted to tell the other side of it.
Becky West
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 21 Mar 2008 11:11 � Edited by: TJamMoneyMan
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Hi Becky,
Thanx for your input.
Is this person 'honest' enough to tell you exactly how much money and time he put into getting that $1500 per month?
Or where he gets those '15-20 new people each month' from?
(Some folx are apparently such long-in-the-tooth marketers, that they have a number of clients that will follow them into hell and back: see Sally23's post on this thread - "I trusted the program because Mike G was involved.")
I don't know what his case is, but I don't see that '$1500 per month' is the whole story either. I just ask that people substantiate and qualify the claims they make.
And of course, how much money are those 15-20 people per month making?
I don't see that many people on THIS thread, able to substantiate any claims of income.
Hope this doesn't offend, I am just asking questions.
good luck 2 u,
tjmm
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jmo
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# Posted: 9 May 2008 15:59
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How do you actually get paid from lawnchairmillionaire? Do they cut you a check or do you setup a paypal account or what?
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 11 May 2008 22:17
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jmo: How do you actually get paid from lawnchairmillionaire?
You DON'T!!
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Jeff W
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 02:43
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Wow! This is a long thread...
Ok, so let me see if I got this all straight...
Joining the LCM basically requires a monthly membership fee, with an initial 'set-up' fee to access "the vault"?
Your set up fee gets you a webpage template or live webpage to promote and recruit new members to "the vault'?
And the monthly membership fee keeps your access to "the vault' active?
Now the memberships work off a single 'moneyline'. Whereas if I joined I would be under the person that got in 30 seconds before I did.?
I read from the affiliate linked website I found for this program it says ( Copy and pasting ) The faster you take action the MORE MONEY you will earn as hundreds of people are forced to join below YOU in real time!
But I can promote and get my own sign-ups which pays me a commission of the membership fee to "the vault"?
There are three payouts (total) from the program if you do not actively try to get your own sign ups? But to get those payments you must purchase a debit card?
( Umm isn't paying money for the sole purpose of insuring you get paid money you have comming to you illegal????? I might have to my local State's Attorney's office on that)
Ok, now my monthly memberships grants me access the materials and/or the products that are in "the vault"?
But my access is limited to basically reading yet another piece of perfectly written sales copy pages for this materials, how-to's, programs, etc...?
And in a nut shell, to access those formentioned above things requires more investment on my part....?
I've also read a post or two that spoke about some marketing and internet guru's really promoting this opportunity. Doesn't sound surprising, they all rub elbows after all.
Buy any of the materials about how to get rich quick or how to promote yourself to millioniare status in 4 days. From any number of them from that group and you'll discover one thing. They do practice what they preach. Little of what motivates them has anything to do, in my opinion, with helping you make any money. Why do I say that...
Simple... They have, again in my opinion, no problem with using misleading sales copy, using every trick they know to tell you nothing about what you are paying for. While making you and I hungry to buy it!
And to top it all off! They'll even sell you the goods on how to do the same thing to people just like they did to you. What's worse, in my opinion, Is then some of those people will think to themselves. Wow! That's how they got me! I can do that too!
Next thing you know you got people promoting programs that they most likely know, I would hope, used atleast a good level of misleading statements to sell the opportunity to them. But as long as they can make a quick buck on it then no harm done... right?
Nevermind the fact that sooner or later the government is likely gonna come calling, if there is any evidence of this thing being illegal. Which wouldn't surprise me one bit. Is it an illegal thing, I don't know. But I have alarm bells sounding in my head right now.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 12 May 2008 06:30
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Jeff W: Wow! This is a long thread...
Especially for a product that produces absolutely no income!
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Christyw
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# Posted: 18 May 2008 16:52 � Edited by: Christyw
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Was just reading this thread out of curiosity really...I have had a fair bit of spam regarding LCM......Looked into it....didn't like what I saw! Sounds to me like MLM style........there's not much to it apart from getting people to sign up and getting them to sign people up 2 tier......
I reckon with programs like this it's really the founders and early birds that can make money from it...like someone else said before.....the market becomes saturated which proves it's not really viable!
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usafree
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# Posted: 29 May 2008 13:10
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Hi there. chuck here
I join pay per play a while back and hasn't much success. People are coming to my website but pay per play do not deliver they don't make payment in my account.
The other service like lawn chair millionaire seem to want money up front first before going to the next level. There are many legit companies out there that are free to join which also give you the option of making a lot of money. As for being successful on line.!!! A word of advice , keep look " digging for gold and one day you'll stick rich.
If Anyone have idea on great systems in which every body wins let me know not just the ones at the top. Don't be afraid to give opinion. thanks
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Jubie33
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Bigrich: TJ the only thing you could lose is 50.00 if you joined,,, they give you a MBG on the 30.00 so if you are a risk taker that ain't a bad deal.
It's only $50 to lose? Wow....you must be rich because I value my $50 and just don't look at it as, hey it's only $50, I have more growing on my tree in the back yard. I guess you must lose alot of money with this type of thinking. Sounds like your typical gambler which I'm not into gambling on business investments. You will find yourself broke faster than you think. No offense.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 10:32
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sdcindy: I made $68.12 at midnight which was split into 3 payments of $18.02 paid out immediately and $22.43 next month and $27.67 the following month. Remember, these numbers can only go up if my moneyline (my downline) make sales by sponsoring new people or making sales of the products in the "vault".
Sounds like a typical MLM. I am not into having to depend on "any line" for my money to increase.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 10:42
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sdcindy: I made $68.12 at midnight which was split into 3 payments of $18.02 paid out immediately and $22.43 next month and $27.67 the following month. Remember, these numbers can only go up if my moneyline (my downline) make sales by sponsoring new people or making sales of the products in the "vault". However, the people who will truly make good money with LCM are the people who are proactive and sponsor folks themselves. For everyone you sponsor, you get a $20 bonus plus $15 per month as long as they remain active. And of course, you make money if these folks sponsor people or sell some of the products in the "vault".
So what products do you sell? Did I miss that? It seems like this business is only about getting people to sign up like Happywife said. 95% of people signing up, 5% of product sales. What kind of business is that? And then the more the people in your downline, the more you get paid. Ok....that really sounds secure. lol What happens if your downline slowly starts to bail on you? Then what? Keep finding new people? It's like joining a club and the more people you get to sign up, the more money you get and oh yeah, an occasional product here and there to sell just to make it look like a legitimate business. Will this provide a residual income for the next five years? I doubt it. Most people will jump ship to something new that comes out, promising quick cash. No offense.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 10:50 � Edited by: Jubie33
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cybermommy: Sorry to jump in here I am a member over at wahm forum as well and LCM has come under strong fire there and elsewhere. A regular over at the forum joined LCM a few days ago ,paid her fee and has received nothing.This is despite numerous emails to customer support/admin. Another poster who is a member has reported that some are getting the password etc sent through to them,others not. Not in their junk folder either. And again after emailing the company they hear nothing. Coupled with the fact the thread that was running about it until a few days ago was very negative and LCM members could not answer questions about the programm,more sidestepped them put me off.
Thank you cybermommy,
I am wondering when these people are going to wake up. lol I really strongly believe alot of people are getting scammed but oh well. It won't be me. Say la vee. I would love to see how they are doing in a year from now with this program.
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 11:02
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jahman: This system may work but still limited in terms of the income can make doing your own little business. People need to focus on specific goals then have real business plan to succeed online. It seem most people just jump from one idea to another without any real plan upfront. Its best to sit down and map out your needs and how to fulfill such needs with your home business. There is a lot of money to make online. One good product could make much more than this Lawn Chair program with lots of sign ups.
Amen!
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 11:05
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just a Bill: Wow!!!!! I went through this hole page hoping for some straight info about the L.M. so I could make an informed decision about signing up.Judging by what all the members said,I have reached my gole.I did'nt get much more info here than I got on the site,but it was enough to go ahead and (NOT) sign up.It sounds like a typical site that offers you the chance to make the developers of the site very rich while you peck away at ad sites( for them) to get even more people to peck away and so on.You can call me a tire kicker if you want but all I want to do is find a legit site that is honest about your income potential and what you have to do to reach it.I have yet to find such a site and this one (L.C.M.)does'nt seem to be very honest or lucrative,just the same ole same ole.Lets all the honest people get together and come up with a straight forward honest site that truely represents its self and its content with a commen gole of each of its members prospering without the objective of ripping people off and scamming hard working honest people out of there dang rent money!Well thats all I have to say about that.Thank you,Just a [email protected]
Thank you!!!
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Jubie33
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2008 11:15
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sdcindy: Yeah, I did Lawnchair Millionaire for a while and was pretty successful. But there were some things I didn't like about it so I am getting out.
LOL!! Wow. I knew one of yall would end up saying this.
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scottsharp
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# Posted: 17 Jun 2008 21:57
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This was one of the first programs I succumbed to with my online ventures about a year ago. I was sucker punched by Tye Coughlin, he back-door sold me on it, stating it's the best thing since g-strings or some such nonsense.
I made an honest "go" of the system, not knowing a whole lot about online opps, spent way too much money, and came away from the table with a much lighter wallet.
This thing is what I now call a reconstructed "Pyramid" matrix. They say that for everyone joining under you, a piece of the proverbial pie is placed neatly in front for you to nibble on. I, I'm afraid was going hungry on my piece of pie.
There hasn't been any mention of the "Sports betting" that is offered within the vault?? I did not involve myself with it, simply because of the $169 price tag and it seemed a little outrageous of a claim that you can turn $50 into a $100 within a month.
I would be interested if anyone tried this out to see if it works?
After being involved with online marketing and becoming almost an old hand at making a buck or two I have found more sound and less expensive ways of making money than these HYIPs and single line matrixes etc.
Steer clear of LCM folks, you are making the rich, richer!!
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maestro009
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2008 11:49
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Hi my name is ruddy and I just heard of the lawn chair millionaire group today 07/03/2008. After reading the promo I decided to try it to see if it is for real espoecially as I don't have to do ny recruiting, it cost me $80. 00 us and they claim that by midnight I will get my money and every midnight after that for up to 60 days I don't know what that means but I will wait and see. So you can email me if you hear any thing new and interesting I will keep in touch to update you on my progress if any.
Yours truly
rudyard
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Crazy Viking
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2008 22:19
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Hi ...
It is in fact very simple.
- If you like to recruit it is a great program ...
- But if you think that you just pay the monthly fee you will not make any money but have a loss.
Just my 5 cents,
Crazy Viking
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