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paxkine
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 01:46
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has anyone read the entire thread lately?
it seems a lot of people that were excited about joining up are now promoting other programs..like ASD...or broken links that don't work
things that make you go hmmmm 
it does look like the ones who put in a lot of work are making a killing....interesting system and the products look great..
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 16:53 · Edited by: Homeboy
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Hmm, I wonder how many people on this growing thread are just here to say good things about CCP and make more sales, lol.
(Sorry, just that there seem to be a lot of newbies suddenly appearing on this thread from nowhere, lol...)
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 15 Jul 2008 17:28
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But there are also alot of us oldies out there as well.
Not everyone is cut our for every opportunity. There are a bunch of us thought that have done well with the system. It all depends on your attitude going in and actually learning and applying the system.
And we will always have newbies at CCPRO because the business model is not a "flash in the pan" type opportunity. The quality and ever changing products give us longevity and staying power.
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 00:45
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So basically after all the hype and hoolah hooolah!
BOTTOM LINE IS, YOU STILL HAVE TO DRIVE YOUR OWN TRAFFIC TO YOUR PORTALS, SYSTEM, websites call it what you want!
No traffic no sales!
My quest for a LEAD GENERATION system continues, and please dont ask me to go the youtube, ffas, myspace way!
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 00:49
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added:
"when someone fills out an application and pays the $49 fee they are given access to a business overview page and sent a copy of "INSIDEOUT", a marketing DVD and workbook put together by Jay Kubassek and Mike Dillard"
So you mean to say only AFTER someone pays $49 they receive a call ? LOL!
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 00:59
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travell99: No traffic no sales
Well thats kind of an obvious statement!
travell99: YOU STILL HAVE TO DRIVE YOUR OWN TRAFFIC TO YOUR PORTALS, SYSTEM, websites call it what you want!
We still have turnkey methods available to those who want them. There are many that choose these methods because they have no desire to market on their own.
Lead generation is a skill that takes time to learn. What CCPRO did and continues to do is offer turnkey marketing solutions while you learn how to market your business.
This allows you to see sales as you continue to learn. Or you could just reinvest you earnings back into the turnkey methods.
These turnkey marketing solutions will always cost more than marketing on your own. Thats to be expected because you are paying someone else to do the work and they need to be compensated.
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 01:02
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Read this somewhere !!!!
"Carbon Copy Pro is a slick marketing system that has been devised by Jay Kubassek and Mike Dillard of Wealth Masters International. With Carbon Copy Pro, Jay Kubassek and Mike Dillard claim to take the human element out of online marketing. This is an interesting claim, because to be successful in internet marketing, you have to learn the skills of online marketing and business systems. Secondly you have to develop relationships with your prospects. If there was a system out there that was completely automated, wouldn’t we all just push a button on our computer and head to the beach for the day. I’ll let you be the judge on that one.
The $49 fee just to find out information about Carbon Copy Pro is interesting. This is like going into a restaurant and being charged $15 just to see the menu! Wealth Masters International claim that the $49 fee is designed to screen out people who are not serious about a home based business. They also say that the fee provides their new members with a source of income until they get their first sale! And what do you get for $49? You receive a DVD which is an interview with, none other than, Jay Kubassek.
The $49 fee is a smoke screen for what you are not told about the real cost of getting involved in Carbon Copy Pro. The start up cost for the programme is $2,000. Then as Derrick Harper, founder of the Wealth Funnel System, points out: “They’re promoting and really pushing the M2 level of Wealth Masters International �" that’s a $8,995 buy in cost and they also recommend you have a $2,000 to $5,000 marketing budget. You mean you’re trying to get people to sign up for the program with an initial investment of $11k to $14K in start up capital?” And then there is the ongoing monthly costs with the programme which are significant."
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travell99
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 01:03
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@ Bill, and just what does "Turnkey" method mean ?
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 09:17
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Travel99,
What I mean by turnkey is that we have alternatives to marketing on your own. One example of this is a direct mail marketing campaign. Kind of like a a co-op but we deal with the company direct.
Like I said earlier though these turnkey methods are more expensive than generating your own leads. Thats why so many choose to do so.
I really dont feel the need to defend the system or it's founders. Once someone fills in an application and speaks to one of us, everything is fully disclosed. All questions are answered honestly. I am glad for the funded proposal aspect because I was with CCPRO before the new system launched in October and I do not like calling leads.
It is very time consuming to call lead after lead to get to the few who are truly interested. And besides, the application fee is refundable. So a new prospect has nothing to lose but their time. CarbonCopyPRO is very liberal with the refund policy. The goal is to get new prospects to see the opportunity in its entirety before making a decision.
And I just want to clear one thing up.
CarbonCopyPRO is just one leg of the Wealth Masters Opportunity. They are separate entities but work together. Wealth Masters International has nothing to do with the funded proposal fees from Carbon Copy. We just market their products using the system.
travell99: ongoing monthly costs with the programme which are significant."
$149.00 per month for all the training and resources they provide could hardly be considered significant in my opinion.
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 01:29
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Still, I'd prefer to make my own calls and close the leads, I dont need to pay tons for someone else to do that.
A system that actually generates leads is something I'd be more interested in.
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 17:11
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Sir Thomas,
I have been with Carbon Copy PRO and its founders for over 3 and a half years and I've had to go learn marketing all on my own with no support.
I honestly have never seen a system quite like this especially with a brand new product, the BIB (business in a box), coming out on July 22 in less than a week. Carbon Copy PRO is about to revolutionize the industry.
Thomas, I never talk down on ANY company and I know that the reverse funnel system is real as well and that many people over there are making solid money. I know that BOTH systems do have that crucial funded proposal in place, which allows brand new people to start making money immediately so that they can stay in the game long enough to make the big bucks.
The difference on that is that with CCPRO they send out an interview with Kubassek and Dillard with the refundable application that retails at $150.00.
And with this "Business in a Box" coming out, keep your eye on CCPRO and what is coming down the pike!
I hope this helps,
Brian
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# Posted: 17 Jul 2008 20:16
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ccp what is the deal no bs just can an average family man earn cash doing this without losing all my money
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 18 Jul 2008 22:39
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That depends what you mean by "average".
If by "average" you mean a person who is closed minded and has short sighted goals, then no, an average person will have no success with the system.
But if by "average" you mean someone with no internet experience and no past entrepreneurial experience, then yes, CarbonCopyPRO will teach you the necessary skills and techniques to prosper in this industry.
It all comes down to your mindset and if your able to learn new skills and apply those skills.
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# Posted: 19 Jul 2008 10:44
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Systems are all great. But a lot of the time people want to work with a leader someone who is confident and someone who they believe can assist them to build a business. That is why it is imperative you learn how to create high quality leads, prospect them , and then close them.
If you just depend on some sales funnel you are leaving tens of thousands of dollars on the table. I dont care what anyone say. This is a people business and there is no lazy man's way to success. In my five years working from home I have learned that.
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2008 12:00
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Honestly, I have to admitt that I am impressed with CCP. The marketing system is top of the line and very effective. At the end of the day it doesn't matter how great the marketing system is, if you can't drive quality traffic to your website, turn that traffic into prospects and then close the sale. Figure that part out and anyone can be successful.
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2008 15:13
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itsmikewhite: turn that traffic into prospects and then close the sale. Figure that part out and anyone can be successful
I agree.
Thats the beauty of Carbon Copy.
Most of us have little or no experience on the phone explaining our opportunities effectively to prospects. Why not leave it to a seasoned veteran. So many people shy away from online business opportunities because they do not like speaking to strangers about business.
Thats one of the main selling points with Carbon Copy. And they also provide real proven techniques to drive traffic to the landing pages. And its only going to get better with the new and improved system coming out on the 22nd of this month!
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# Posted: 20 Jul 2008 22:49
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Well the founders of Carbon Copy PRO have done it again.
I was floored when I heard about the addition of the "Business in a Box" program tonight. Brian had made reference to this program in an earlier post and he was right.
They have totally revolutionized this industry again. This program gets better each and every month!
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# Posted: 22 Jul 2008 23:06
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What is "Business in a Box"? Are those some new products or services
that they introduced? Or a new way to do business?
Thomas
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 22 Jul 2008 23:33
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"Business-In-A-Box" is a new product that we are marketing in addition to the ones we already have.
It's basically a complete marketing system compiled and packaged by the leaders at our company. If you were considering teaming up with CCPRO now is the time.
I already have many sales pending of this system of people who were already in my system but just couldnt come up with the capital to start. Now they can and its all because of the "BIB".
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# Posted: 23 Jul 2008 09:37
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Right on Bill,
This "Business In A Box" is absolutely ridiculous...
Its a perfect bridge into Carbon Copy PRO's product line because of 2 things...
1) Its only $400 to get involved in a serious income opportunity with pro where the marketers make $200 commission. This is a serious product, a physical product, that comes to your door that includes all the info inside of ccpro as well, the sites, autoresponders, call centers, EVERYTHING...A CALL CENTER FOR A $400 PRODUCT! THINK ABOUT THE CONVERSIONS!
2) It actually teaches people how to market like the top earners, period. So not only do the marketers make decent commissions (1 bib a day adds up quickly), but we also get to educate our brand new people on how to SUCCESSFULLY build a home business in the process which is going to lower attrition and BOOTS RESIDUALS like crazy.
There is now NO EXCUSE as to why anyone couldn't get started with us...if someone says they can't get started due to finances, they have no business searching for a legitimate business online.
The market has now multiplied by 10 by the way...the bib is "generic" and is essential to ANY network marketer who wants to learn how to DOMINATE AND DESTROY ANY BUSINESS...
Think of the possibilities...
The pre-launch was last night...I've already made a very good handful of bib sales...people get it...
The time is now,
Brian Fanale
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# Posted: 24 Jul 2008 17:07
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Hi everybody!
A couple of things ......
Firstly, Im really interested in CCPRO, I joined a month ago (paid the DVD fee), the idea behind this business opportunity amazed me! However Im a student and unfortunately at this time I dont have "easy" $2,500-3,000 to invest, moreover invest into something that I have no idea how to operate with, and how to make it all work for me  So for now I decided to wait, get info and then join at M1 level.
I have several question though, I would really appreciate it, if you guys could answer them.
1. How do I get the "classical" CCPRO website with Kubbasek on it and the domain names? Are there variations such as can I add something of my own to it?
2. How are the money transfers controlled? From my leads - to them paying me, and me distributing the portions further? How is all that operated/controlled basically?
3. If I entered at m1 level, but my lead wants to purchase m3 - do I get commission, if not, who does?
4.Also, I have no idea about advertising on the internet, creating banners/websites, placing counters - are there special "workshops" for complete newbies to the internet after I become a monthly member?
I hope this wasnt too much questions
Thanks!
Also...to Mark Worthen... Power of Attraction ....I do agree, it's all in the *mind*set
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 11:40
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janna,
congrats on your decision.
1) you will have access to the classical website inside of pro once you get started
2) you get paid first, this is direct sales. so when someone buys the m1 or new "BUSINESS IN A BOX" you get paid first. with the wmi products, you simply keep your profit and send the wholesale to wmi via echeck (you don't even have to leave your house)
3) if you are at m1 and you start marketing and someone comes in at m3, you only collect commission at m1 and the m2/m3 portion goes up to the next in line at that level.
4) we teach you EVERYTHING in pro...thats why we designed it the way we did and its laid out for the brand new person who knows NOTHING about internet marketing...we got you covered.
also, i'm not sure if you have heard but we now have the initial ccpro product, the "business in a box" which is only $400 so you could get started immediately.
contact whoever you filled out your application with to get more information on that and welcome to the team!
this is going to get stupid silly with all the money on the table with this new product launch we just had on July 22nd for the bib.
brian
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 20:16 · Edited by: starmix
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hi Brian! thanks for your answers....
you know, i looked at BiB on the main page and came to a conclusion that im not a big fan.... yeah it does make it easier for a person to start, but it seems to distort the whole initial idea of ccpro .... the person doesnt think of big terms in my opinion. also i noticed that theres a 400$ "discount coupon" of m1 when u purchase BiB...what does this mean? it means that you r just buying m1 and getting BiB as a free bonus...as a way to make more money that way. But the thing is not everyone sees it in perspective like that. What do you think?
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# Posted: 25 Jul 2008 23:25
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Hello,
I am curious to learn how leads are generated?
Also,when someone joins, dont they become your competitor if you
use on-line advertising?
brianfanale: also, i'm not sure if you have heard but we now have the initial ccpro product, the "business in a box" which is only $400 so you could get started immediately.
Do I not have to be a member of CCP to get the black box?
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brianfanale
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2008 08:42
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Janna,
You were not impressed with the bib offers? Its a complete professional call center and business center ANYONE can use to actually create profit in this industry.
The websites, autoresponders, call centers, everything. On top of that the bib gives ALL of the marketing education that the top earners are using to completely dominate and destroy in this industry.
And for the price of a family meal at a nice steakhouse.
You should always be learning and educating yourself...increasing value for your team. This is a perfect shot at learning the best from the best.
Brian
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2008 08:44
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nigelpm,
we don't really see it as "competition" as this is a global opportunity and we haven't even scratched the surface in the states. there are millions of people looking for what we have an everyday thousands of new people come to the internet looking for a business / income opp.
i give away all my secrets (most of them in my newsletter below.
and as for how we generate leads, we teach everything both online and offline that has worked for our top earners.
its plug-and-play.
brian
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2008 19:38
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nigelpm,
Being able to generate leads is the key to sucess with any business you choose to promote. Marketing and sales is all about numbers. The more people you have to talk to about your business the more money you make. You have to find a system that stacks the numbers in your favor and work the heck out of it.
Hope this helps.
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# Posted: 30 Jul 2008 00:48
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Hello Everyone,
This is my first time to respond on a site like this, so I'm excited! Anyway, I bumped into the CCPro opportunity, and I am really interested, but wonder if its too late to get involved. I also wonder if the new Business in a Box works for any business. I would like to do CCPro in addition to some other things that I am passionate about and I wonder if the BIB will help me.
We tried an MLM company with some vitamins, and we cancelled after 3 months of no training and no return, except a little (thank goodness) product that is stacked in a closet somewhere.
In a nutshell, I want to invest in CCPro to learn how to make money now, and have more excess to invest in my passions and make a difference in my circle of influence. I just don't want to get caught up with a gimmick, I am not looking for get rich quick, and even though everything says this is not like that, I am still skeptical. Based on what I've said (typed) do you think this is something for me? Honestly, HELP!
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# Posted: 30 Jul 2008 07:34
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Hi Brian, CCPro guys,
I have passed the "application" at CCPro and am now at the crossroads of whether I will buy the BiB. However, its all still kinda unclear to me.
If the BiB costs $395. However the FAQ's say:
"How much will it cost me to get started?
To get started with the CarbonCopyPRO BiB it will cost you $395 plus whatever marketing budget you have. ($500-$1000 is recomended, but not required) If you choose to purchase any of the optional WMI products upfront, that would obviously cost extra. (NOTE: Included in your BiB will be a $400 Coupon that you can redeem towards any WMI product purchase.)"
1) Does this mean I need to have a startup capital of $395+$500 dollars just to get started? And thats not even at the M1 level?
2) Does it also mean that since a $400 coupon is included, I will not be making money until I buy the M1 package?
It all seems so expensive to join considering all these factors, please correct me if Im wrong.
Thanks
Del
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# Posted: 30 Jul 2008 10:55
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tGodbtglory: also wonder if the new Business in a Box works for any business
The BIB was designed with the Carbon Copy PRO business model in mind, but marketing techniques can be used to build any online business.
I am sure once you see the whole system in its entirety though you will not want to market another business. And with the commission plan you wont feel compelled to use you time marketing another business!
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