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alexa
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2008 07:20
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maakd: I am looking those straight forward company which gives solid return with Affordable expenditure.
Well said. I think that in today's economic climate the "affordable expenditure" part is really the main point.
I've always liked the look of CCPro and in particular I have found reading Mark Worthen's blog fascinating for many months now.
The only thing that really puts me off is that I think there are 1,000 times as many people willing and able to invest $25 in something they know can produce fast income than people with CCPro-sized money to invest.
Absolutely no criticism of Mark at all, but reading his blog and seeing how his hard work and persistence has led to some real income over the last year makes me wonder how brilliantly he could have done from something without that financial outlay ...
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BillChechel
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# Posted: 20 Sep 2008 14:08 · Edited by: BillChechel
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Alexa,
The real income that Mark Worthen has earned is mainly attributed to the awesome commission plan offered through CCPRO.(plus his outrageous work ethic!)
When you sell or market a product with such a low rate of return it takes a huge consistent downline to earn a good income. It is difficult to keep a huge team motivated enough to see the great residuals.
With CCPRO we work with a much smaller group of team members and can really focus on helping the proper way by guiding and coaching when necessary. Sure it may cost more for the initial investment but you can earn that investment back in less than 3 sales.
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alexa
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2008 04:45
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I don't doubt it at all, Bill. Thanks for your reply.
(Living in Europe, I'm not a "prospect" for WMI, though, partly because your entry-level product is far too specifically American to have enough relevance to people here, and it seems the company has no plans to develop a UK-oriented version - I actually asked!)
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Homejames
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# Posted: 21 Sep 2008 07:16
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alexa: Living in Europe, I'm not a "prospect" for WMI
I think what is more important is the "System" that you tap into. The WMI program is a bi-product of that System.
Once you master this system, you then up-grade in WMI and realise higher income. WMI programs have more of a global attraction at the higher level.
I live in Ireland, and its working for Me!
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Jeremy_Sandy
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# Posted: 3 Oct 2008 23:14
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alexa: Living in Europe, I'm not a "prospect" for WMI, though, partly because your entry-level product is far too specifically American to have enough relevance to people here, and it seems the company has no plans to develop a UK-oriented version - I actually asked!
I still remember Jay Kubassek's comments when we had that discussion when I first joined - "if you sell the products, you are just a salesman, but if you sell the opportunity then you are a business owner"
We have many consultants at CarbonCopy Pro that are located in the UK, Canada, and Australia. Your location is only an excuse to not do something. If you have an internet connection and the desire to succeed, then you can have success with CarbonCopy Pro.
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JanBrown
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# Posted: 8 Oct 2008 15:31
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Alexa:
alexa: Living in Europe, I'm not a "prospect" for WMI
Where you live in the world is not the issue. It is where you market. Remember, this business is about internet marketing. You can market anywhere -- especially in the US and Canada. Though with consultants in over 15 countries, you are really not limited.
While some of the WMI alliances may be US and Canada specific, understanding how to be debt free, how to take control of your finances, where to invest, and how to protect your assets are universal lessons of personal finance applicable wherever you live.
You have to decide whether you are worth investing in. Do you believe in yourself? Do you have a plan for your own financial freedom. Will you be able to retire? If so in what lifestyle? Do you have dreams of what your future could look like? Ask yourself what you DO NOT WANT in your future. Then ask yourself what you DO WANT. Are you on track to getting there? If not, then you may want to rethink why you think where you live is a liability to doing this or any internet business.
You deserve the best ... reach out and grab it.
In Prosperity,
Jan
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misstami
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2008 17:48
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I am currently involved in Carbon Copy Pro and I am more than pleased with what I have going right now.
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Mark_Worthen
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# Posted: 31 Oct 2008 20:22 · Edited by: Mark_Worthen
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Xrimson: Hello all, I've been looking at the CCPro system and it sounds very good, but i think that like alot of people, i'm a bit sceptical to spend several hundreds of dollars when you're not sure something will come out of it.
Can you name any business opportunity, franchise, small business training program, etc. that guarantees that you will be successful? I've never seen one.
If you expect a guarantee, you are setting yourself up for failure.
I make this assertion because you are assuming that your success depends on external factors, instead of assuming that you are 100% responsible for your success.
When you look to external factors to determine your success, you diminish yourself; you give away your power.
On the other hand, when you take full responsibility for your success, you are expressing confidence in yourself and claiming your power to create prosperity in your life.
I'm not saying that which company you join doesn't matter. In fact, choosing a company (or franchise or brick-and-mortar business) is one of your first business challenges.
That word, "challenges," is crucial.
People who believe they are 100% responsible for their success regard an economic recession, a useless sponsor, or a need for additional training as challenges, not "reasons" why they won't succeed.
It might prove helpful to take a step back and ask yourself, "Do I really want to own a business?" Many people approach network marketing as an opportunity to generate additional income without fully realizing that they are choosing to become a small business owner.
That might sound like a mistake you wouldn't make but ask yourself, "Do I think of myself as an entrepreneur or someone who simply wants to find a way to generate more income?"
There is nothing wrong whatsoever with wanting to generate more income but not wanting to do it via business ownership. Just be clear about what you want.
All the Best,
Mark
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jrd
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# Posted: 1 Nov 2008 12:32
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Mark,
Great answer for Xrimson!
My name is Julie and we met at the Dallas CCPro event. Remember , we were outside in the disgusting smoking area!
Take care,
Julie Decker
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Mark_Worthen
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# Posted: 1 Nov 2008 20:25
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Hey Julie,
It was great to meet you and many thanks for your kind words. 
All the Best,
Mark
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# Posted: 15 Nov 2008 11:22
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Mark,
This is going to be my first steps in internet marketing. Over the last year I only did some reading of e-books. The amounts spent were always under 70 $. I have just been accepted with CCPro and have been contacted by my sponsor yesterday. My problem is the price for BiB and M1, way too expensive for me to spend. Do I need BiB and what seed money do I need for advertising? I can't afford any losses at the end. Is there garantee of profit after the first campaigns? By the way, who on earth can afford 2000 $ for some written advice on personal finance, particularly in these turbulent economic times all over the world.
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Brookside
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# Posted: 16 Nov 2008 20:23
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50$ to get in then buy m1 m2 or m3 financial info. Can you spell Global Prosperity Group?
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TheChampion
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2008 15:52
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Patrick Belgium: Mark, This is going to be my first steps in internet marketing. Over the last year I only did some reading of e-books. The amounts spent were always under 70 $. I have just been accepted with CCPro and have been contacted by my sponsor yesterday. My problem is the price for BiB and M1, way too expensive for me to spend. Do I need BiB and what seed money do I need for advertising? I can't afford any losses at the end. Is there garantee of profit after the first campaigns? By the way, who on earth can afford 2000 $ for some written advice on personal finance, particularly in these turbulent economic times all over the world.
"He who is not courageous enough to take risks will accomplish nothing in life." �Muhammad Ali
Tim
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Mark_Worthen
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2008 16:25 · Edited by: Mark_Worthen
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Patrick Belgium: Is there garantee of profit after the first campaigns?
Let's assume that you own CCPro and you guarantee a profit for all your members.
If I joined CCPro but never set up my system, never advertised, never attended a training call, and never asked for help, what profit should I earn?
Or, a less extreme example, let's say I have everything set up, I listen to training calls and participate on the Forum and I am serious about the business. But I get a little too excited about advertising on Google Adwords and before I know it I've spent $2500 on ads but generated only one BiB sale (because I really didn't know how to advertise effectively with Adwords).
So I just lost $2300. As the owner of CCPro, you need to give me $2300 and an extra $1200 so I make a profit. I mean, I know it was my fault that I spent so much money on Adwords but hey, you guaranteed me a profit so cough it up.
Mark
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TheChampion
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# Posted: 21 Nov 2008 17:02
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Perfect examples in your post just above, Mark_Worthen
Tim
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2500PerDaycom
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# Posted: 22 Nov 2008 17:42
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Carbon Copy Pro is all SBO Mag. I never been in it, but I've heard alot of great stuff about it. Think to RFS is having a hard-time trying to keep up with Carbon Copy Pro.
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michellevdw
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# Posted: 11 Dec 2008 01:05
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hi everyone im new to this so bare with me.
i have just joined ccp this week and payed my $49.
i didnt see anything about an extra cost for set up. i did see though the BiB pack
i cant purchase the BiB pack of 300 odd dollars at th moment i dont have the funds for it.
i am in australia as well so when all is converted then its even more. does this mean that i can not proceed until i havr this pack?
help not sure where to go next and if anyone in auzzie doing it let me know
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bizconsultant
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2008 12:46
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I love CarbonCopyPRO and all that it has to offer. CCp teaches even the new marketers how to make money online. Coming from owning a franchise, I am completely impressed with the system and will never think about owning another franchise again.
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# Posted: 16 Dec 2008 16:22
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After googling for CCPro and asking my sponsor in an MLM opportunity I asked my refund because there was criticism about it. I can't sell something I don't want. Here in Europe we don't spend that awful lot of money for education at university like in the USA. There 2,000 $ for a course maybe is a bargain, here it nearly covers your costs for 1 year renting a flat as a student. Without seed money I can't start this ambiguous program.
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starmix
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2008 06:51
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I watched the INSIDEOUT dvd today. Although the interview with Jay Kubassek was quite captivating and inspiring, it made me wonder....Does he realistically make over 50K per month? (He says this amount is only the beginning)..Where and what kind of property does he own? What kind of lifestyle does he lead and does he invest into other business opportunities? He talks beautifuly about having the right mindset, and surrounding yourself with like minded people to achieve success yet I question - how realistic is his claim of being able to make the first 50K if you put all the necessary effort into it? Who are the top marketers for this company? I see Mark Worthen a lot - saw several websites of CCPRO and he posts here, I'm assuming he must be successful....Mark, if you're reading this, after all marketing expenses, honestly and realistically how much money on average do you make per month? Does anybody REALISTICALLY make 50K in a month with CCPRO? I want to talk one-on-one with this person. I don't believe he exists.( And yes I've seen testimonials - I'm sceptical about them.)
I agree on one phrase Kubassek said: "If anyone can do it, I can do it." However there are restricting factors to one's income potential, such as how many OTHERS are willing to put into this alternative business idea, no matter how good of a marketer you are?
Would love to hear some honest answers here
I got the drive, I got the money, I just don't want to face shattered illusions after I join and dive in.
Thanks.
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teazerboy
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Honestly this is just to help you guys.... i know enough about this program so .... ifanyone who wants to join this program will end up paying thousands of dollars in application fees $50..high $50 monthly hosting fees.and yearly $150 and product which cost as much as $2000 plus marketing cost which is as much as $500....you'll end up paying almost $11000 before you make a dime..and you have to promote $9000 product to cover the damage..and yeah you'll have tough competition because thousands of users are promoting the same product...you marketing cost can b easily $1000 per month...i am in internet marketing business for more than 10 years so i know about all these programs.... i am not against any program it's just before you sign up with program..think 100 times ...
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soniaellis
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2009 12:41
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Hi Adrian,
..reluctant to commit financially, hear so many awful storeis...would really like to hear how you set up and how successfulthe cystem has become??
Sonia
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soniaellis
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2009 12:53
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Is ths fact? Do you rally need to invest 11,000$ before you see return on investment?
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TheChampion
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2009 20:36
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It doesn't matter how much you spend on marketing as long as it's making you money.
If I spend $5,000 or $10,000 on marketing but it makes me $25,000 or $50,000 back I'll gladly spend that much on marketing and more as long as it gets me the results I want of course.
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TheChampion
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2009 20:38
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FYI: My previous post talking about marketing costs was meant as a reply to the post teazerboy made just a couple above talking about the marketing costs....
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TheChampion
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2009 20:44 · Edited by: TheChampion
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teazerboy: fees $50..high $50 monthly hosting fees.and yearly $150 and product
Yes, these programs have a lot of fees lots of times.
I am not a fan of monthly fees but I am a fan of residual income.
So it's important to look at if these fees will make you money back.
For example, the $50 monthly hosting fee you talk about is ridiculously high BUT what if you were making back $20 a month or something for every person who signed up for the hosting account through you? That would be pretty nice.
So the opportunities to make residual income in return is what I look for if monthly fees are ever involved.
Tim
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Shultzie1986
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# Posted: 22 Jan 2009 15:55
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Hello guys! New to the forum, online marketing, and have been looking into CCP for the last ~2 months to determine weather or not this is something I'd want to pursue.
I have been involved with multi level marketing companies before, and currently with with Primerica Financial Services. Due to the length of time and effort the business requires, as well as outdated business practices, It's rather difficult to maintain a 9-5 job for security and do Primerica full time and see any real results, ESPECIALLY with the way the economy is these days. I've been there for ~8 months; prospecting daily, going on appointments, and working 30+ hours a week with either clients, prospects, team members and uplines, and I've made about $1700. This is obviously a problem.
I am a hard worker with an entrepreneurial mind set, however I need a different vehicle to achieve my goals. I have cash for the application and BiB entry level, however I'd like to save up enough for the M1 level to get started.
Like I said before; I work hard, I am team oriented, and believe in giving back to my family, community, and doing the right things with accumulated wealth to protect it. I am looking for a CCP upline to get started with within the next month or two. If anybody has a financial interest in this, I much rather like establishing a relationship with someone over the phone before I commit. Please send me a PM if you're interested in being my mentor to success; I just need instructions.
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Shultzie1986
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# Posted: 25 Jan 2009 03:24 · Edited by: Shultzie1986
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WOW. All I have to say Is that I am very impressed with CCP so far. The training and support is absolutely phenominal. I don't even have my BiB yet, and I'm just so ridiculously fired up to start when it comes in on Monday.
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jrd
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# Posted: 26 Jan 2009 09:30
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Welcome to CCP, Shultzie!! Yes , this system is Awesome!!!
Take the time to go through the BiB, as it is full of great stuff.
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# Posted: 1 Feb 2009 00:06
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Reply for Alexa & maakd. I also looked at CCP before joining my current group. And I am so glad I waited and really researched the product. I agree, you need a "high ticket" item that is global and has wide appeal for the average person. It also has to be a product that is above reproach with the highest integrity. I'm sure that WMI provides great information, but may not appeal to the mass market.
All the best!
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