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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2007 02:35
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I bought this $6 program about a month and a half ago, did nothing with it and forgot about it. I found the link the other day and decided to upload it onto my website. You either have to have your own site & upload it or the program owner will set it up on his servers for $10, I believe that is a one time fee and covers hosting, don't know for sure as I didn't need that service. You make $6 per sale and the members area comes with tons of software & ebooks, worth way more than the startup fee. For kicks I bought a $14.99 solo email ad and ran it this past week, I actually made 8 sales and converted 2 of those to I4B sales as well, so I found a new way to market this week. Use a low cost program to attract sales and offer them an upgrade to a higher priced program, mine was $40. Anybody else ever try anything like this? Or are promoting 6by6Million? I was wondering if this may be a one time thing or might actually be useful for a period of time, what do you think? Thank you in advance for your thoughts.
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# Posted: 26 Oct 2007 02:51
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Well after marketing this little program for 1 week, I've made a total of 14 sales and had 3 people upgrade to my income4beginners program!! Not a bad ROI, spend $35 (on 2 solo email ads) and get back $204, I'll take those numbers any day. I'll make updates when something new happens.
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# Posted: 26 Oct 2007 23:13
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Hi All,
I ran another solo email ad for 6by6Million, once again I was flooded by sales, 9 more sales to be exact, one person has already downloaded my income4beginners ebook, we'll see if it turns into a sale or not. The ad's driving tons of traffic to my site, ad started at 3pm and in 8 hours has driven 2600+ visitors to my site!!!! That's certainly good for the Alexa rankings. Probably run another one this week, I'll keep everyone posted on results and upgrade conversions.
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pcwork
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2007 21:22
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Has anyone received payment yet?
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 27 Oct 2007 21:31
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I've sold 28 of these and received $6 for each one thru Paypal instantly, plus 4 people have upgraded to my income4beginners program too!!! A very good investment of 3 solo email ads that cost me about $50 and made me $328 - $6 program cost - $50 ads cost = $272 profit. Not bad for a little $6 program, but you need to either install it on your own server (I did) or pay the program owner $10 to set it up on his server.
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ssamekul
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# Posted: 29 Oct 2007 11:50
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6by6 does work. But paypal will eventually tell you to remove their logo from the 6by6 million site. apparently they consider 6by6 to be a matrix program which they don't support (of course we all know that it is not a matrix program) but there is no convincing paypal of that, believe me i've tried.
Someone told me that this happened to them, and that it would eventually happen to me and sure enough it did happen. Paypal is gonna cause you some trouble with this website.
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# Posted: 29 Oct 2007 12:31
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While that maybe true, if they ever ask me to take off their payment system, I will continue to sell it as I am also an Alertpay member too. This is a one to one sale, how could it EVER be considered a matrix type program???? It's no different than any other money making opportunity. I've sold close to 40 with no problems.
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ssamekul
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# Posted: 30 Oct 2007 13:26
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I guess they jump to the conclusion that it's a matrix program because of the name of the website. (6by6)
They were very unprofessional in how they handled my problem, So i got fed up and decided to delete the website.
I was thinking of setting it up again with alertpay though. I've got the html files.
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 30 Oct 2007 13:28
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I would, this thing sells like hotcakes, even overseas. And can lead to upgrade sales, if you give them an opportunity.
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ssamekul
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# Posted: 1 Nov 2007 12:54
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I think its because of the price. most people don't think too hard before paying $6 dollars.
It's more than worth it for all the tools you receive
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# Posted: 2 Nov 2007 03:34
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Up to 47 sales so far, with no end in site (hopefully !). Have a solo email ad going out to 4,000 emails in Australia & UK, will report results when ad runs. No recent upgrades to other programs. Good night all.
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# Posted: 6 Nov 2007 01:44
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Just a quick update, am now up to 56 sales of this little gem of a program, have some sales in UK recently but not Australia. Every online marketer should have a similar type program to promote, it keeps you motivated seeing the instant payments coming in, even if other programs are slow for that day. Works for me!
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# Posted: 10 Nov 2007 01:01
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Latest update, now up to 63 sales and even better, another upgrade, this time to my 2020unlimited program that's exploding with group sales the past 3 weeks.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 11 Nov 2007 18:21
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Hi all,
i just joined 6x6million, 20/20unlimited, and SFI (recently).
i just joined THIS site as well - i am wondering when my posts will actually be posted.
Anyway, i am a newbie, hoping to learn more...
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 04:00
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Hi again TJam,
If you ask specific questions, you will get better answers. What do you want to learn more about & why.6x6million is a quick way to make a few hundred dollars and pretty easily too. Good program to then offer them an upgraded product and a percentage will buy the upgraded product at a higher price. Works for me.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 06:28
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Quoting: AppealMarketing If you ask specific questions, you will get better answers.
My questions are ALWAYS specific, as far as what I am looking for concerning online marketing: How much time & money is required to actually make money. And, how long until a certain amount of time and money pays off a significant income (hundred$ a month, up to at least the first $1000, or so - for me anyway, as a starting point.)
I know full well that such things can not easily be pinned down exactly, but I think a realistic, honest description is not an unreasonable request.
I mean, the ad copy CERTAINLY makes things seem clear cut and easy, with unambiguous descriptions of financial success.
All I ask is that the program live up to the advertisement!
Programs that claim to make money with only a 'one time payment' or 'no effort', should actually live up to the claim, no?
Otherwise, a fair and accurate description is simply being honest!
Maybe this isn't the ad game but I, for one, appreciate honesty and clarity, over hype that can't possibly be true. I will buy truth in advertising ANY day over hype!
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# Posted: 12 Nov 2007 21:40
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Hi TJam,
6by6million is by far the easiest program to sell on the internet. (in my humble experience of 3 1/2 months of online marketing) All I do is submit $14.99 to $16.99 (depending which company I use) solo email ads and the sales come in. I had a guy call me a few weeks ago and told me that he's owned the program for 1 year and hadn't sold a one. Must be he never promoted it, as I've sold 69 in the last 3 weeks. It's not alot of money, but it has led to at least 5 upgrade sales to another program that I promote.
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# Posted: 20 Nov 2007 03:21
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Hi Tjam,
To give you an answer to your questions, how much time to run 6by6million, running 1 solo email ad per week - about 10 minutes ordering the ad and sending your ad copy. When 8-12 sales come in, about 1 minutes each to log them into your sales system, I just use Outlook and make separate folders for the 6 different programs I promote. So that's 8-12 minutes. Total time for the week: About 20 minutes.
Money - The solo email company I use charges me $14.99 to run an ad to 10,000 USA emails. That would be your cost for the week. So for about 20 minutes of your time and $14.99 of your money you can earn approx $60 - $15 = $45 profit which works out to about $135 per hour, great ROI. When one of your customers upgrades to a higher priced program, it skyrockets your ROI even more. I hope this helped explain the time & money issue.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2007 16:51
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Well Marv, and everyone else who cares.
I too just got my 6x6million website up and running.
I finished about 3am and awoke that afternoon to 3 sales!
2 more sales and I will have at least broken even for the month - this to include the price of hosting the website for with 1&1 hosting and no more than ONE $15 email ad campaign.
If I had html knowledge, I would be $18 ahead and earning a profit for the month's expense. All this less than 12 hours after beginning promotional efforts!
Now, less a newbie, I can promote this site even easier so I have a good feeling about this as well.
I owe all this to Marv Dorn, and the ez sell that 6x6million is.
I only wish I could use Marv's 20/20unlimited ad co-op to promote 20/20unlimited and experience some of his success with that site as well.
So far, so good.
REAL GOOD!!
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2007 16:53
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Quoting: AppealMarketing I had a guy call me a few weeks ago and told me that he's owned the program for 1 year and hadn't sold a one. Must be he never promoted it,
That's the only explanation I can think of.
He should be knee deep by now!
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iiionashna
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2007 14:05
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Please help me remove my 6by6million website. The person that I got it from I can not reach. How do you remove it. My paypal account is frozen and I am really desperate to resolve this.
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Diana Becker 512-576-5188
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 11:56
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i have the 6by6million website, too but it has paypal on it. i got an email from them and honestly, i forgot i signed up for this! i can't remember how to get into the members area to take paypal off there. can anyone help me?? PLEASE!
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 22:47
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I personally (knock on wood) never had any trouble with PayPal, I operate a clean business, always send every one of my customers a welcome email with a link to the members area, people tend to lose this somehow and make myself available for any questions they might have. The program itself is NOT a violation of their rules, if it were every opportunity site would be in violation. It is not a MLM program, it is a one time sale of a website script and members area. Each person is their own business owner, nothing is tied to another person, the name 6by6million has nothing to do with a MLM, but of the income profitability of selling a $6 (very low cost) to a large number of people and making a good profit from it.
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 11:46
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Quoting: iiionashna My paypal account is frozen and I am really desperate to resolve this.
If removing 6x6million from your paypal account will resolve things, PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD!!!
PayPal is DEFINITELY putting accounts that promote 6x6million in a 'permanently limited' state.
It just happened to me, for promoting 6x6million.
I can't understand this because 6x6million is definitely NOT a pyramid or ponzi scheme. And, I have only had 4 sales for 6x6million. Paypal says:
"Under the Acceptable Use
Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive payments that support
pyramid or ponzi schemes, matrix programs, other "get rich quick" schemes,
or certain multi-level marketing programs"
Seems like a LOT of OTHER programs would fall under that particular rule though! (Maybe this is useful scam protection - beware of sites that don't use paypal!?)
Anyway, there APPARENTLY is hope. Again from PayPal:
"We recently reviewed your account, and we need more information to help us provide you with secure service. Until we can collect this information, your access to sensitive account features will be limited. We would like to restore your access as soon as possible, and we apologize for the inconvenience."
Whatever THAT all means!
Whoever can find a solution to this would be doing everyone a favor by sharing their experience.
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# Posted: 9 Dec 2007 12:48
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I too just had my paypal account put in a permanent limited state, this happened due to 2020unlimited, as someone accussed a 2020 member of spamming and sent emails to the 2020 admin and paypal. They listed ALL 4 programs I promote as violating their rules, income4beginners, paysforever, 2020unlimited and 6by6million. I now offer google checkout as a payment option for all but 2020, as the owner is working on getting a new payment system in place, so 2020 is not dead, just temporarily closed. I'm still waiting for Jon Davies to remove paypal from my I4B payment page. Everyone else has removed it for me. I just joined Super Eden, I don't directly receive payments. Nice Christmas present from paypal. I recommend everyone have alternate payment sources available, just in case. I now have Alertpay, e-gold & google checkout.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 15:50
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Marv,
Today Paypal blocked my account because of Income 4 Beginners. They will not restore it unless all mention of Paypal is removed from I4B. I contacted Jon Davies but he has not responded yet. Have you had any luck?
Cindy
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 16:12
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Hi Cindy,
No luck on my end, I know another person who needs the same done, everyone has emailed Jon with no response yet. I've already put google checkout on my I4B page that is hosted on my server, same for 6x6million. But I won't let paypal put me out of business, I've just joined Super Eden, where you do not receive payments directly, they are paid to Super Eden and they take many types of payment. I used a credit card myself. This new program allows me to offer co-op ads to Anyone in my downline. I hope Jon gets our sites fixed.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 17:29
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Jeez,
I don't know how you have the nerve to show your face let alone talk about ways of getting around the Paypal problems, if I were in your shoes I would quietly retire from the scene after offering an apology,
you marketed these systems
you were the one accused of spamming
you caused a lot of people to lose their Paypal accounts
FACT
You should be aware that I have been contacted by someone who network markets for a living and has had his PP account limited after signing up under me. I have pointed him to the threads that you have started here, I'm sure he will contact you one way or another!
Perhaps as you seem to be on first name terms with every owner of these dubious sites you could persuade them to contact Paypal, confess their sins and assist all their members to get their accounts back, looking at your recent behaviour, you will probably just keep trying to sell the systems with another provider until they limit everyones accounts as well.
Your ethics are very questionable.
M
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 19:04
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maricel,
To whom were you directing your last remarks to? I hope it wasn't me as you have your facts completely WRONG.
Yes, I marketed 2020.
NO, I have never been accused of spamming. I do not use bulk email leads, I use solo's and double opt-in safelists.
NO, I did not cause people to lose their paypal accounts.
2020 is no more dubious than any other money making opportunity out there.
I have been the only person to keep the people in this forum and my personally direct people informed on any new delevopments with 2020.
My ethics are NOT in question here, yours are for spreading rumors that you have no idea of what you are talking about.
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# Posted: 12 Dec 2007 19:57
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PAYPAL is indeed the problem.
Even if the sites validated their AUP, they are behaving like assholes, plain and simple.
All they had to do was give a warning.
By freezing peoples accounts THEY COLLECT INTEREST!!!
That's why there's no warning given - DUH!!
INVESTIGATE PAYPAL!!!:
go to the website paypalsucks dot com.
I don't think I know any more than anyone, I am just finding all this out NOW for the first time.
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