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Evdayenterprise
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 14:39
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What is the better program for learning and making money?
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getagrip
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 15:00 · Edited by: getagrip
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A lot of people in this forum are big fans of Profit Lance...and a few people have said good things about Income4Beginners, but I'm going to stick with my guns and state that if you want to learn how to earn money online, and get expert advice from two of the top internet marketers in the world, Wealthy Affiliate is a great place to start your internet marketing career.
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Income4Beginner
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 16:54
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I agree with getagrip, Wealthy Affiliate is the place to go for everyone, even a beginner to learn about Internet Marketing.
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Evdayenterprise
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 00:35
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so wealthy affiliate over both?
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 02:48
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What are the startup cost for these 2 programs? I am working the income4beginners program very successfully. But if you want to get into a ground floor opportunity do a search on 2020unlimited, I'm signup #6!! Starting my 2nd stream of income.
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advoc821
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 04:18
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Hi Guys,
I won't disagree that Wealthy Affiliate is a good program but as a Profit Lance member, I can't help but pitch in that PL would be better choice especially if you are a beginner and on a tight budget.
PL offers the same good learning grounds with just a one time fee where you can take your sweet time until you get a good grasp of the ins and outs of this business (which really is not simple).
And once you get into it, there are still a lot of stuff you will need to spend on to really get started that's why as a beginner I'd go for Profit Lance. My 2 cents guys.
Just talking with my heart.
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RE: 20/20
Hi Mary!
I'm curious about the 20/20 since I haven't heard of it yet so I checked it out. Saw that it was just released this Sept.
The program has a tinge of MLM and there is no information at all about the products or the program. I have to be honest but it is a bit unclear and the site is "dodgy" except for the fact that someone gets paid when someone goes in to be a member and no refunds.
What products and softwares were you able to get from your membership fee? Can you give some examples? I hope you won't mind me asking because this is what this forum is for anyway, to let others know what works and what doesn't.
Thanks in advance.
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Carpathia
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# Posted: 30 Sep 2007 17:08
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I signed up for ProfitLance a couple of days ago and have been working my way through a lot of the content. I'm a total newbie and just getting my mind around some of the content. For those who are wanting to just plug and play and hopefully make some $$$ fast ProfitLance is not the place. I consider it more of a massive online tutorial or internet marketing 101. I can't help but be tempted by the dark side of programs like Perfect Wealth Formula but I'm staying away for now and going to attempt to learn more of the ropes.
For any of you who have had success with ProfitLance, particularly in the area of Good Adwords, how much are you putting aside for ad costs montly?
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advoc821
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# Posted: 1 Oct 2007 01:11
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Hi Carpathia!
PL really is not a get rich quick program but it will teach you the basic grounds of this business and putting it up for the long haul. Real work is necessary for it to "really work". I was a total newbie and got PL August 21, still learning from it.
I suggest you stay away from adwords if you are really new to this otherwise, you will lose money. It may be the quickest way to earn money but if you do not know what you are doing, you will lose LOTS from it.
Work Hard, Play Hard! 
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advoc821
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2007 00:59
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Hi All,
If any of you have read my posts before, you will see that I am a PL member and I still am. I have been away for a good reason.
There has been a thread here also as to which is better, Wealthy Affiliate or Profit Lance. Now I can answer that question, first hand because I went over the fence: Wealthy Affiliate
I am now able to pay for a monthly subscription for WA because of my efforts in applying what I am learning in Profit Lance.
Now that I have personal experience with both courses, my advice to anyone who is planning to get into this business:
If you are on a budget: Go with Profit Lance. I am sticking to that. I have advised a lot of newbies here about that. This is not an e-book, this is a program so apply the program and with small steps you will be able to charge on.
You will learn a lot there, there are valuable stuff in PL also that is not in WA so just apply what you learn!
If you can afford it: Go with Wealthy Affiliate
The tools and guidance (especially the dynamic forum) does really give it a huge advantage over any other program. And not to mention the freebies...FREE web hosting for 3 domains and as a member of WA now we will have FREE access to the Site Rubix website builder tool that is launching today in the market.
As an Internet marketer there is no better person to do your website but you. You have the concept in your mind, that is why I have been trying to learn basic web designing in the past weeks but not anymore....
Talk about being at the right place at the right time. Now I have the best of both worlds and I know, with all the knowledge that is set before me, coupled with perseverance and determination...I will succeed!
Work Hard, Play Hard!
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2007 08:23
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There are a few good programs out there. Which one to go with is a matter of investment comfort level.
Bummarketing.com and My Power Mall are free.
Honest Riches is $37
Income For Beginners is $40
Profit Lance is $77
Wealthy Affiliate is $29/month
Many members of this forum keep praising all of these programs. I think that you will be happy with any of these. I'd recommend taking the two freebies and then purchase one of the paid programs if you feel that you need more.
There's wisdom in creating multiple streams of income.
Happy Studies,
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stacy
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2007 16:30
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There is also a lot of free information on the web about Interent Marketing. I found several sites that gave free advice. The problem is that none of the free ones tell you step by step how to do it, you just have to piece it together. It seems the less money you spend, the more time you will have to put into learning, so you have to decide how much time and money you have to devote to your new venture. I just ran out of time to research, so I bought ProfitLance and hope to get through all the material in a week or so.
I'm going into this hoping for some extra cash and not to make millions because I don't want to get impatient and quit.
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2007 17:29
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Stacy,
That's the way to do it :)
Keep up the good work.
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 06:48
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Income4Beginners is based on the same strategy that Harvey Segal
used some time back.
In a nutshell, users are persuaded to download a free ebook.
The ebook is basically a longer sales page to get the user to pay $40.
For the $40, the user is given a unique link to the same ebook.
This ebook, however, is branded with the user's payment processor such as Paypal.
The user then directs traffic to his new branded link with the same salescopy.
When someone download the free ebook, and decides he/she
wants to pay $40 to get involved. The $40 is paid directly to the
user in which the ebook was branded to.
Basically, you're paying $40 for a chance to make money by "selling
the system" to others with the exception of some bonus ebooks
and software that others are giving away free.
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 11:26
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I am a complete newbie in this area.
What do you use Profit Lance or Wealthy Affiliate for?
Is it to promote an Idea you have or already existing business?
Or does it proved tools to start an internet business?
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# Posted: 11 Oct 2007 13:43
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Both of them are online marketing courses. Yes both provide the education and some tools to start an internet business.
getagrip is the WA (Wealthy Affiliate) expert.
makemoneyonline and hemjoe are the PL (Profit Lance) experts.
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stacy
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 10:54
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Both programs teach you how to advertise and market products and ideas on the internet. I think it's good to start out marketing other people's products, but you just get a piece of the profit. Eventually you will want to have your own product or idea to market; that's where the real money is. Am I right, Newbie Shield?
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2007 17:31
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Quoting: stacy Eventually you will want to have your own product or idea to market
Well...sorta. I do have my own product (Get A Grip Marketing), but I do a lot better with affiliate programs. I've got a friend who is earning $500 a day with affiliate programs, so the earning potential is quite lucrative.
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# Posted: 16 Oct 2007 17:05
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I have to say Profit Lance is the best of these. It's a one time fee, unlike Wealthy Affiliate (which is also very good but more expensive in the long run).
Income 4 Beginners is a very nice concept and can work well too. Profit Lance offers almost everything you need to really make it online. That includes ready-made websites for yu to start promoting right away, so you CAN Make money ASAP with it as well.
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