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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 23 Nov 2007 22:17
Task #1 (from the Beginners Products adobe document) sets up your website and puts your paypal and/or alertpay (must use same email address for both, if using both) into the payment section of the free ebook that people download from your site. Just click on the link, put in your paypal email address into the blank space for it, click the rebrand button and your site will be generated and your URL that you promote is put on the page. PRINT this page out or SAVE it to your desktop, you will learn it very soon when placing your ads. Next most important step is task #4 - Marketing Page. Read and re-read it again, this is where you will learn to market your I4B program. Then be sure to study all your advertising materials, email ads, classified ads and banners, you will use these to promote and sell the I4B program. I have a marketing plan that I put together for 2020unlimited, but can be used for ANY program available, just PM me with your request and email address and I will send it to you. I hope this helps all the new people out there, it has been covered before, but needs to be repeated every now and then. Marv
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mikepressnell
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2007 22:27
Frustrations with so many people not receiving what they think they were promissed/guaranteed. No one can promiss or guarantee you any results. It's up to you to do the work to get your desired resustl. It's also up to you to do your research on ANY company before you become associaated with it.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2007 22:44
Quoting: mikepressnell It's also up to you to do your research on ANY company before you become associaated with it.
Write on Mike!
One thing I have found out though, is that MANY people writing "reviews" and postings have a hidden agenda. They want you to buy into THEIR site instead of the one you are considering!
I am starting to develop my own questioning tools:
How available to answer questions is the promoter?
What KIND of business is this?
Do you want to do the work (i.e. phone calls, packaging and mailing, paying for and attending seminars, etc.)?
HOW MUCH time and money is required?
Especially AFTER you buy in.
No doubt promoting a product will COST in TIME, if not MONEY.
Usually BOTH!
There's advertising, legwork, handing out flyers and leaflets and things like that to consider whether or not you want to do.
The list goes on...
Anyone not willing to be up front about ALL of that, is probably hiding SOMETHING you really ought to know.
Once I see the red flags, I look for the "moneyback" exit door,
(which I checked to see was even THERE beforehand!).
I like inexpensive things, that are easy to sell.
You can easily break even with a few sales and there's not too much loss if you don't.
Ultimately, you have to try it, unless you know someone personally who can share their experience.
But even THEN, different people will have different experiences.
OVERALL?
If it don't smell right don't eat it!
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greatusa
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 00:49
Quoting: TJamMoneyMan I am starting to develop my own questioning tools: How available to answer questions is the promoter? What KIND of business is this? Do you want to do the work (i.e. phone calls, packaging and mailing, paying for and attending seminars, etc.)? HOW MUCH time and money is required?
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mikepressnell
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 00:54
Hey, I've been really busy lately and I haven't had the time to check out Income for Beginners. I saw the website but only briefly. Can someone please enlighten me as to why I should join. To be honest with you, I really don't know much about it right now.
Thanks,
Mike
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greatusa
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 00:59 · Edited by: greatusa
Very good questions above from TJam. A little skepticism on anything always helps. Let my try to address the questions (all is free to add on):
How avail is the promoter? ANS - Rarely. Why? because this is a fully automated income generating system.
What kind of business is this? ANS - Internet Marketing of course. This system definitely works, but don't take our words for it. Google is free to use, so much excellent forums out there to learn from, books, etc. This is where time is needed...not your money (if you have one).
Do you want to do the work? ANS - heck yes and yes. This is not a get-rich quick program and if your perception is that you will get easy money without lifting a finger or more importantly (using your creativity)....then get a day job or continue with it if you already have one : )
HOW much time and money? ANS - for a beginner, much time is needed to learn lots of things. If you think you can use tons of money inorder to get money out of Internet Marketing, suggest that you put your money to much better use by donating them to charity.
That's all, and thanks for the good questions!
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 2 Dec 2007 02:29
Hello Mike & Jac,
First, great post Jac, couldn't have said it better myself. As for why anyone would want to join I4B - If you are just starting internet marketing it will teach you alot and Jon Davies also gives sources of advertising, not all good, STAY away from inetgiant, lost $100 with them due to my being a green marketer. I worked just I4B for almost 2 months, learning the ropes of what works and what doesn't. It has given me the confidence to market other programs, of which I now market 7 programs, all profitable. Without that basic knowledge I couldn't have done that. Although I rarely use paid marketing now for I4B (have 2 solo's coming out Dec 8th & 12th) I still make between 3 -5 sales a week, mostly from safelists, I post ads virtually every day and multiple times if I have the time, which is not that frequent anymore. For the more experienced marketer, I4B is an easy sale that brings in a decent amount for the effort involved. Well worth anyone's time. It just keeps growing, I saw uid=7300's today!!! I'm 1985 and feel old!!  I have a marketing plan that I created for my 2020unlimited customers, but will work for virtually any other program out there, if anyone wants a copy, just PM me or email me at marv [at] appeal-marketing.com and i will get it to you. Have a good night all.
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Sugar79
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 17:00
I've been with I4B for a cpl of weeks now yet still not getting any sales! Can anyone advise m on what to do? I feel like ive advertised all over the web and also used free-for-all sites but still getting nowhere. I also use software called adblaster and eMade Search Engine Lite has nyone got any other tips that cost �0? lol Want o start earning before I put any more money into this system!
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2007 22:19
Welcome Sugar79,
I will PM you my marketing plan for 2020unlimited, it will work for any program, has many free sources, maybe some you are not currently using yourself. If you read through the entire forum (I know it's very long ) you will find alot of advertising sources too. Will get this right to you, let us know how things progress.
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Gimme3steps
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 03:18
Hi Marv. I downloaded the I4B ebook from your sig link last night and have read it, but haven't made a committment just yet.
The thing is, I have never tried to make money with the Internet but after reading this thread, I'm really thinking about jumping in with both feet and just see what the hell happens 
What bothers me most is wondering whether I am techno-savvy enough to market my link, once it is established. Any advice?
I understand and appreciate the fact that your time is valuable, ESPICIALLY if you're trying to make a buck.
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 15:24
Welcome Gimme3steps, (I love Skynrd too )
We must be from the same timeframe! PM me your email address and I will send you a copy of my 2020 marketing plan, it gives the advertising sources I use on a daily basis. If you can copy & paste your ad into these sites (I can provide you with an html ad with your url in it, which works better than plain text) then you can do this business. I succeeded with it when I knew nothing at all about online marketing, now alot of people consider me to be quite a good online marketer. I wasted money on bad advertising when I first started, if you use my plan, you can avoid that and use the sources that work. But only if you will do something on a daily basis, this is not a set it and forget it type of business, you have to make ad posts everyday, that keeps the momentum up. I now market 8 programs/products and some nights i just don't feel like posting ads, but I at least post to some of my sources and in the morning I do see sales when I get up. But marketing a single product is cake, you can get your ads posted in no time. I hope this helps you and others Gimme3steps.
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PTYANG
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# Posted: 4 Dec 2007 15:45
Hi Greatusa which solo email ad site do you use?... I can't decide and I don't have the funding strike out...I struck out on some promising looking safelists that gave me zilch...Thanks please respond...
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ka7952
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 00:20
Marv,
I need marketing plan for unlimited2020 too. please let me know. Thanks.
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 00:35
Hi ka7952,
Just sent the marketing plan to you, hope this helps you out with your marketing. How did you not end up in my 2020 group?? 
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Gimme3steps
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 06:27
Hi Marv.
2 quick things :
1. I have purchased the I4B program. The free E-book on pg. 12 says "Once you press submit, the system will automatically insert your address in to the payment details in the e-bookand give you a unique link." I've searched high and low for said link but I can't find it!
2. Where do I go to d/l the other products (i.e. the I4B Toolbox described on pp. 14-20)
Thanks!
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 17:40
Hi Gimme3steps,
You need to save the I4B download document, if you did not return to merchant, you will miss this document. I will email you your copy, Task #1 is where the unique link is generated, just put in your paypal (if you want to use Alertpay, must use same email address for them)email address, click rebrand and your link is generated and your paypal info has now been loaded into the payment section of your ebook that people will download from the I4B website.
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Gimme3steps
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# Posted: 5 Dec 2007 19:31
Hi Marv. Thanks for your time and help. I got a feeling, the REAL work is about to begin!!
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ladyinred
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# Posted: 17 Dec 2007 05:16
Any one making real money working from home please i need honest reply please
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 00:43
Welcome ladyinred,
You want an honest reply, you'll get one. I was doing very well with online marketing ($50 - $200 every day) until paypal pulled the rug from under my feet. I was promoting another program and paypal went in there and limited alot of peoples accounts, mine included with a permanent limited status. Others were much luckier and only received a temporary limiting. So I've signed up with google checkout, Safepay & already had Alertpay. But it's like starting over again, which I have no problem with. So I went with a simple MLM program called Super Eden, in which I do not receive any payments directly from the new members, and they can pay with paypal if they want along with many other payment sources. Haven't sold a single income4beginners since I lost paypal. I believe Jon Davies might be pulling paypal from ALL I4B members payment pages, can't say this is 100% accurate, but I've seen a few unrelated payment pages and it was the case. But there is plenty of money to be made on the internet, you just have to know where to market and come up with some GREAT subject lines. If you go to the bottom link, you will find links to many of the sites I use to advertise on a daily basis, many are free or low cost. You can PM me for a marketing plan that I put together for my Super Eden group, should help.
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hank618
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 14:21
hi Marv, how long ago did paypal limit your account and what do you mean by limit?
hank
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 14:27
Hi Hank,
It was on Dec 6th, limited in meaning that I cannot receive or pay anyone. Mine was permanent, but with some pleading I may someday get them to restore my account, I'm not sweating it though. Anyone who uses only paypal for their money making opportunity better keep every customer happy, you never know what they may do.
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hank618
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 14:44
paypal has been yanked from I4B
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 15:03
Hi Hank,
How were you able to confirm this? I was guessing that in a previous post, but had no proof. If it is true, I4B will be a very hard sell, unless Jon Davies adds Safepay or some other processor that can accept credit cards.
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hank618
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2007 15:25
I think we have seen sales disappear because paypal is gone from I4B, I'm not sure yet when that happened. But it has only payalert which I'm not sure if it takes cc's or not. Although now I know why I get 100's of hits /week and a large number are click thru's, but no sales.
I have a new idea what to do with this and if it works I'll share that info...could take me awhile though.
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 02:00
Quoting: AppealMarketing paypal went in there and limited alot of peoples accounts, mine included with a permanent limited status. Others were much luckier and only received a temporary limiting.
For the record:
MY account was 'permanently limited' but I got it lifted through emailing the hell out of them until they offered me an appeal process (3 emails, 1 phone call).
I never heard of a 'temporary limiting'.
I am sure they were ALL 'permanently limited'.
I think just about ANYONE can have their 'permanently limited' account restored.
I DID!
I think you just have to bug them a bit, and point out how unfair etc. they are being.
I doubt they aren't treating me special!!!
Remember, it's a FACT that paypal had to payout $9.2million to settle a class action suit a few years back based on how they treated their customers.
Perhaps they don't want any more trouble than necessary...
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hank618
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 02:41
Hi TJamMoneyMan,
Glad to hear you got your paypal account restored, did it effect all your sites? Just so you know you don't have paypal for I4B, nobody does for that matter.
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 07:57
Hi TJam,
There definitely are temporary limited accounts, I saw the actual emails. So you have given me hope, I will start an email campaign myself and see where it gets me, thanks TJam!!!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 10:57
Quoting: AppealMarketing So you have given me hope, I will start an email campaign myself and see where it gets me
I hope so, I could do a lot more with your programs if you had a way to accept paypal's buyer credit.
I believe there some accounts are rendered 'temporary limited' if you say so.
All I can say is, my account was deemed 'permanently limited' and I still got it restored - good luck!
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TJamMoneyMan
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 10:59
Quoting: hank618 Glad to hear you got your paypal account restored, did it effect all your sites?
I don't quite understand that question but, I did have to remove paypal from i4b, 6x6million, and 2020unlimited in order to get my account restored.
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teezageeza
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2007 12:28
HI all
Well i came accross I4B about 2 months ago, and searched google for reviews in which i found this thread, after reading the whole article i was really looking forward to purchasing the ebook, which i planned to do today
To my dissmay i went onto the site and it has removed paypal, i am, not going to pay now because i know that paypal covered pretty much 90% of payments
Anyway im new to this forum, but not new to trying to makie money online, i have a games console affiliate site and am in the process of making a golf site "golfjunky.co.uk"
I just want to know if there are any other programs that can make a few extra pounds a week, Appealmarketing sounds veryhelpful and experienced, so have you got any programs and marketing advice?
many thanks
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