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Evdayenterprise
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 21:21
Thank you...great response
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Evdayenterprise
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 22:49
Yes it does....thank you very much
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 22:53
I didn't know you already answered it Marv, so I erased mine. LOL Good post BTW, Marv.
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kitkatjenn
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 22:55
Hi all I'm new to the forum and I've been looking over the previous entries, and I'm wondering if any of you have had a similar issue with this product.
I purchased Income4Beginners several days ago and started promoting it yesterday. To test my link I had my dad purchase the program through my paypal account, and all seemed to work fine. I was very excited to start making money, until this morning when I was notified from paypal that my account was suspended because the site is not in accordance with their terms/conditions, like they think it's some sort of pyramid scheme or something. Now I can't get my money or unlock my account until I remove their paypal button off of the ebook, which I can't do because it's all automated! I can't even contact paypal because their phone numbers don't have ANY way of actually talking to a live person.
Sorry this is so long, I was just wondering if any of you have had a similar experience.
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LuckyRon
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 23:00
I've been getting money deposited in my paypal account with the program on my LuckyRon website and I haven't had any trouble. I have used that money to purchase I4B so I don't know why paypal would have any problem with I4B. I think if someone had a problem with paypal it was probably an extreme case.
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 23:25
Thanks for that luckron, I am sure everything will be fine. I have had no problem with I4B and paypal either.
Good post!
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gbug
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2007 23:51
For evdayenterprises:
Yes, you download the e-book for free with no obligations. Then if you choose, you pay $40 for lots more of his (Jon Davies) helpful internet marketing info. Once you make your $40 purchase, then you have the right to resell this guys info. on your own website that he provides for you. You insert your own paypal and/or alert pay buttons and you get paid everytime someone makes a purchase. Jon gets no money from your sales.
You will use the info he gives you to start marketing your own income4beginners website.
As you can see from my previous postings, I was so new and uneducated about marketing online. His info has helped even me to understand and implement the system.
Hope this helps. If I left out anything, you guys please fill in the blanks.
Have a great night!
gia
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2007 00:03 · Edited by: jdejvet
Okay so lets sum up this income4beginners.....you get an ebook that has basic info for beginners....then you get an affiliate website?
Welcome to the thread.
No, this is a REBRAND of a book that comes with other products. You pay $40 to buy the Rebrand and the products that come with it, then you get to promote it and get 100% of the profits. You no longer owe the person you bought it from a dime. EVER Not like affiliate. And the whole system is laid out for you in the free book. If you haven't read it, click on any of the links in this thread and you will get the same system. The ones they and I have, are rebrands and anything (if you decide to ) you give them for the book, will be all theirs. Then you will get to keep all profits off of the rebrand you promote. I hope that helps.
Decided to post it again, don't think anyone mentioned that it was a REBRAND.
To everyone's success
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2007 00:10 · Edited by: jdejvet
Thought I would update everyone. Business is doing well, and I have started a "click and pay" campaign. I had no idea how to do it and never considered doing the work myself (I didn't do good with affiliates on my own)until someone that I submitted my website to called me and raved about the program. They said they had never seen anything like it and they had been in home based business marketing for a while. They are going to do all the work so I am not left in the dark. I set my budget and it will run in about 10 days! I am excited! Wish me luck! I know that alot of search engines do this, so if your interested, check some out!
Success to everyone!
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gbug
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2007 00:19
Thanks for clarifying Jennifer. Best wishes with your new venture.
gia
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 26 Sep 2007 00:26
Hey, gbug!
I just checked out that last website you have! That looks interesting! Good idea! Hope everything is going well for you.
Wishing you all success!
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 27 Sep 2007 23:27
Hi Everyone,
Wow, so many messages, sorry guys I have been away for 1 week & had no access to the internet, it's great to see so many positive messages about I4B.
Just to update everyone, before I went away last Thu I spent 2 days promoting my website at free sites. When I checked my emails on my return yesterday, to my great surprise, I had 5 sales in just a week, it was such an awesome feeling.
I have had absolutely no problems with Paypal, in fact all of my 8 sales so far has been via Paypal, so am not sure why some of you have had problems.
Anyway, for me it has been a great learning curve & the knowledge I have gained alone is worth the $40, now I can spend my profits on some serious marketing.
Best of luck,
Jean
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 12:28
Great to see you back, Jean! Congratulations on the profits! Best of luck to you.
To the success of everyone here,
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federline
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 12:37
I am looking at the I4B package and would welcome some clarification.
I recently purchased and have since requested a refund for the Ultimate Wealth Package; once I signed up to the basic package I found that to make it work I had to keep buying other compnents; after a while I realised that I was just contributing to other peoples income streams.
I have recovered some of my costs not all even though apparently they guarantee to refund your money if you are not happy.
What is the real total cost of signing up to the I4B package after the initial $40.
Also to clarify do I understand that all you are selling is once again ebooks.
I appreciate any clarification.
Thank you.
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 12:44 · Edited by: jdejvet
Hi, $40 Is all you pay. Then you decide how you want to market it. They give you a marketing page which gives you lots of free ways and gives you links to check them out. It is up to you whether or not you want to spend money on this. What you are selling is the system. It is a website without hosting fees, ebooks and software to help you, a marketing page, (so you are not lost), and a REBRAND of his book. Absolutely what it says. There is nothing hidden to worry about. All you have to worry about is promoting it. And that's up to you. The more work you put into it, the more you will get out of it. Like any business.
To your success,
P.S. I hated the UWP too. that is what I tried before I found this.
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federline
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 12:56 · Edited by: federline
Jennifer
Thank you for your response.
One of the frustrating things about the UWP was that it was not nearly as easy to set up and use as they maintained; well not for a novice of the internet & IT like myself.
I also think they delberately made it confusing when it did'nt need to be.
Is the I4P relatively easy to set up and use.
I am not looking to give up my day job just earn a few extra pounds to pay the bills.
I am also happy to invest $40 if it helps me get a better understand about how this on-line marketing concept works. You never learn anything for nothing, there is always a price, its just how much you have to pay and how times you pay to learn the same lesson.
But finding a system that does on the internet seems fraught with dangers there are so many people eager to prey on the vulnerable.
Thanks again for your feedback.
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jdejvet
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 13:04
LOL, tell me about it! Yes, I was a newbie to! It is probably as easy as buying with paypal. Then you just go devour the marketing page which is great. I have learned so much with it.
I am not a newbie anymore!!!!!!!! Sorry, had to say that. Just a little over a month and I can say that, now. Hubby thinks I'm some kind of a genius! LOL Good thing he knows nothing about computers, LOL.
Best of luck to you.
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 21:03
Thanks Jennifer, it's good to be back & seeing so much support for I4B. Another 2 sales today so am extra cherry this morning(Australian time).
Ferderline, this forum has been very supportive & helpful for me as I was the newest of all newbies before I read this forum, this post encouraged me to joined I4B & I have never looked back (thanks to Jennifer). I have learnt loads & not spent a cent, just using free sites which the eBook recommends & others I found. It's a great system coz you can spend nothing or as much as you like & it still works.
I am going to spend some money on some serious marketing this weekend, so if anyone has any suggestion where I should start it would be great. Basically, I would like some advice on which method would be best to invest my money.
Best of Luck,
Jean
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 21:37
Good Job Jean! Here's my opinion on paid marketing, based on my own experience, the best bang for your dollar I've found is with solo email ads. I normally get multiple sales, of course nothing is guaranteed. A cheaper alternative is safelist emails, I've gotten alot of traffic from gotsafelist.com, you can join for free, but be sure you don't use your main email address, because you will receive 200-300 emails a day, but this makes it easy to earn credits. Hope this helps.
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 21:41
Hi Marv,
Thanks for the tip, I will take a look at it today, I was thinking of getting a website, what do you think? The reason is because the I4B url is very long but I am not very knowledgeable yet with website management or creating one.
Best of luck,
Jean
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 21:50
Jean,
Having your own site is a good idea, I've gotten my site up to #1 rankings on many top search engines, on MSN Live Search I beat out Jon Davies! As I'm #1 and his is #2!! I had never built a site before this year, it is important to know some html (google html tutorial for great free help) as I've learned it as I went. You can look on my site for web hosting & a very easy to use website builder by Ewisoft, they're on the appeal-marketing site, under Web Hosting. So I've made a number of sales due to the search engines bringing me FREE traffic, when people are looking for the keyword income4beginners. When choosing a web host make sure your server is a linux based one, not microsoft. I went with a $9.99/mo plan but the $4.99/mo is way more than enough & the company on my site is giving away the 1st 3 months for free too. If you ever need some help with your site, let me know, I'm not an "expert" but have alot of practical experience.
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 28 Sep 2007 22:17
Marv,
Thanks, that's great help & may I say WOW for being #1 over Jon, that's awesome. I will take a look at all of that this weekend, the only experience I have with HTML is when I sold something on eBay but they provided step by step instruction on what to do & my item page was very basic.
Tafficswarm is doing really well for me, I think majority of sales are coming through there, unfortunately I have absolutely no idea how to track my sales so I can see what is working, I really want to learn how to do this.
Best of Luck,
Jean
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 06:20
Quoting: jdejvet You can't review something FULLY unless you have tested the product. So enjoy your opinion. That is all it is.
Who said anything about reviewing something fully? This is about risking an investment in order to try something out. But since you brought it up, this guy also has a very disturbing disclaimer.
He states that you cannot receive a refund once you purchase his program since it is a digital product. In other words, there is no risk-free trial period. So, you have 40 bucks to lose. He says that each purchase is final. I'm sure that we can all imagine why.
It is obviously a shady scam as I first stated. He knows that his program is bull. That's why you can't return it once you spend your hard-earned money on it.
OOPS!
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 08:14
Newbie Shield,
How could you ever expect to give a refund if the person has downloaded the entire package of software/ebooks etc.... You can't get something for nothing. What, would you believe someone who says, I'll delete everything that I downloaded, then you can give me my money back. (sure they will) The world is full of scam artists, but Jon Davies is not one of them, he put together a very nice package, that if you can't make money, you are trying hard enough. Some people will "try" it for a week and if they don't see results, will quit and bad mouth the program. That said, income4beginners works for those that put in the time & consistent effort.
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 09:39
Hi Newbie Shield,
As I mentioned several times in this topic, I was the newest of all newbies to all this but I now realise that there is NO perfect business for everyone but everyone can find a perfect business.
There will always be positive & negative comments about every business whether online or offline, you just have to find the right one for you & work hard at it.
There may not be a refund policy with I4B but I would not a business just based on a good refund policy when I am prepared to put 100% effort into it & if it doesn't work, then I tried. If I got scammed then that's really my fault for not doing the research in the first place, there is no guaranteed in life, you just have to try your best & sometimes you have to take some risks. (Shoot me, I am a positive person!)
I chose I4B based on the first post of this topic by jdejvet as she said she was new & I could relate to that, I figured if one new person can do it so can I not because of a refund policy. I would recommend this to all my friends & family without hesitation as the knowledge I have gained is worth the $40. Also I will be able to use all I have learned to grow my home business once I am more experienced.
For someone who didn't even know what internet traffic was or google is more than just a search engine (there is so much more I didn't know) to make 11 sales in just over a month without spending a single cent & working only few hours a week shows this is a great program if you are prepared to do the work, it was definitely not easy but it certainly was fun, the feeling of getting that 1st sale was worth the $40.
This topic has always been very motivating & positive, I read it before I work on my business everytime just to get me hyped up so please don't spoil it for me or anyone else by posting negative comments. Invest your time in finding another program which is perfect for you & work on it.
MARV - Great point in the last post & I4B rocks!!!
Sorry this is so long..
Best of Luck,
Jean
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Evdayenterprise
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 10:36
so the website they give you.....is it your own site like www.(yoursiteurl).com
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NewatIM
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 11:04
Quoting: Evdayenterprise so the website they give you.....is it your own site like www.(yoursiteurl).com
Hi Evdayenterprise,
I guess it's not exactly like www.(yoursiteurl).com, just check out the url on my sig & you will see what website you get. I know other members of I4B have their own website which they their I4B website to.
Hope this has helped & good luck.
Jean
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Income4Beginner
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 13:13
I did a solo Email ad campaign(look above for me post about it) and didn't receive one sale  . After this, I decided to hop on to Wealthy Affiliate(Great site for anyone looking for a beginners guide or the gain more insight on Affiliate Marketing) and I have started the 8 week action plan. It gives you goals and is probabley the best learning tool because you learn A LOT more when your doing it, instead of reading it. The forums are very active and as many people have said, Carson and Kyle are regulars there. Marv from Appeal Marketing I think really has the best idea by starting his own site. If/once this program becomes popular his sales will skyrocket as his website is #1 on the search engines. The thing about emails ads is usually they all go to the bulk/spam email folder which isn't of much help. I still believe the solo email ads are better than classifieds and I got around 200 hits to my site from the last campaign which was only 9.99. I am going to set my I4B aside for a while and read WA and find out more information on HTML and websites in general. Personally, if i want a product I google it which is probabley where a lot of hits come from. Best of luck to you all, this product does have potential!
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AppealMarketing
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 16:04
Hello Income4Beginner - Sorry to hear about your bad luck with a solo email ad, but you normally get what you pay for, $9.99 is VERY inexpensive for a solo email to that amount of people. I pay around $35 to send to 10,000 biz op buyers (very high quality list) and normally receive multiple sales, best was 3. I also tried another company sending out to 184,000 and paid $59, I made $55 in sales from that ad, but it drove my traffic way up for about 4 days. I just found another service that I will try & post results.
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# Posted: 29 Sep 2007 16:37
Yea I guess it is true you do get what you pay for. If you wouldn't mind could you post a review about each company you have bought from? It would be really helpful to me and the community 
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