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dschlick
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 22:07
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Has anyone heard of this one yet or shall I say tried this yet?
http://www.perfectwealthformula.com/
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makemoneyonline
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 12:04
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Looks like a good sales letter, but who knows.
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workingfromhome
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# Posted: 15 Jun 2007 12:12
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My guess is that you will be an affiliate to he's program.
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TopMentor
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# Posted: 22 Jun 2007 19:54 · Edited by: TopMentor
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I am currently using Perfect Wealth Formula and love it.
I've worked full time for the last couple of years from my home and have read a lot of ebooks, but have never seen anything as beneficial as this to new marketers.
The biggest reason why it is so helpful is because CEO Jason Pearson has made several step-by-step videos on showing you how to market properly via PPC as well as free advertising. Because it is visual, it helps to speed up the learning curve very quickly.
I made $2400 in my first 4 days with it and that was just the beginning. Let me know if you have any questions.
Warmly,
Brian
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workingfromhome
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# Posted: 22 Jun 2007 20:48
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You can't be serious.. $2400 in 4 days? or are you just telling us that so we buy it through your site in your sig?
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TopMentor
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# Posted: 22 Jun 2007 21:15
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Absolutely... $2400 in 4 days.
Call me... I'd be glad to show you the proof.
Brian
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makemoneyonline
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# Posted: 23 Jun 2007 02:23
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Well he says he has proof, so there you go. Who knows, don't knock a product until you try it I guess.
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jseses
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2007 01:05
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Guys, It is possible to make $2400 in 4 days. These sorts of programs can be very good. I haven't been in PWF but have had a look at it.
I personally made 18k in EDC when it launched.
When you do your research you will find quite a few programs like PWF, EDC, etc.
They arn't bad programs. Pretty much the same principle with different entry prices and packaging.
You can make alot of money in them quickly. You just need to be able to market. This is done via alot of free methods as well as PPC.
To make the 2.4k you would need about 6 sales.
The key to these sorts of programs is to brand yourself. That's how you will get alot attention and earn alot of money.
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2007 01:30
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Jseses,
You hit it right on the button... the key is branding yourself! That's what I show each person how to do.
Brian
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netcash88
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2007 03:50
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Yep.... it's true... you can make some serious money with these programs.
I recently started up in EDC Gold, and made $2000 ($1994, actually) in about 8 days, doing some moderate advertising.
You MUST have 2 things together, to make it work ... You have to make a decision AND you MUST have a commitment to yourself, to really show up for work every day. No commiitment, nothing happens.
You really NEED 2 more things: 1.) A sponsor that will really HELP you and show you what to do, and answer your questions, AFTER he has gotten paid.....
2.) MASSIVE ACTION
I am getting one heck of an education too. Once you learn some of the good stuff like "5 things Google doesn't want you to know" and "Shadowing"...... the adwords relevance "Trifecta" ... auto responders, ..... as well as a classic education in marketing and advertising....
... You can use this stuff over and over again... yes ... I'm a little worked up
... I just signed another team member, and got another $997 in my merchant account..... I am totally jazzed about helping other folks do the same thing.... WooHoo!
...... ahem ..... okay, sorry
I am new to this forum, and don't usually dance on tables... honest
Warm regards,
Dave Yates
K.C., MO
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surfy
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# Posted: 25 Jun 2007 22:50
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Hi there
I agree that branding is very important to being successful. I joined PWF and have had 5 sales in 8 days. The best thing I find with PWF is the step by step video's available to teach you about marketing. They are very valuable.
One point I need to make is with any program if people do not have support from their upline and a very duplicatable system in place most people will not suceed. The reason I say this is because most people looking for a program to either supplement their income or have the ability to leave their 9-5 JOB have not learnt or be taught how to market on the online or offline so do not know where to start. So I feel finding a sponsor that is willing to invest in their downline is very,very important.
I recommend this program to anyone wanting to make a change in their personal and financial situation.
To your success
Keith
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JCP
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2007 00:00
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It looks like a MLM program. Am I right?
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TopMentor
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# Posted: 26 Jun 2007 00:06
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No... it's a 2 tier affiliate program.
You earn when you sell the product, and then you get $100 overrides on all product packages they sell.
MLM is several levels of payout. With MLM companies, you have to have an average of 150 people in your group just to make $1000 monthly income. With this you can earn $10,000 with just yourself or a couple of people you bring in.
Brian
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alohaoahu1978
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 03:45
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TopMentor
What do you think about the RMTR?
Are you currently a member?
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 03:48 · Edited by: TopMentor
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Yes... I just signed up for RoadMap to Riches.
At first I was reluctant to signup for a 2Up program, but now I see the huge residual aspects of it and I really think the products that CEO Brian Grant put together are great.
Personal development is an estimated $8.9 Billion Dollar Per Year Industry, so this is definitely tapping into a huge market and the fact that you earn 100% of $999 sale paid instantly to you of course doesn't hurt either!
Brian
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alohaoahu1978
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 04:24 · Edited by: alohaoahu1978
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Did you make any money out of it?
I wanted to join EDC Gold and the mentor that I found through internet left EDC GOLD and sign up RMTR.... He said too much garbage going on them(EDC GOLD). So,he currently promoting the RMTR. He sent me an e-mail to check out his new website and the proof of credit card payment is exactly same as he used in EDC GOLD website. Now,I lost faith on him and I'm looking for another mentor. PWF sounds good to me,too.
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 04:30
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I just joined last night... it is brand new.
I will make money with it as I do with all the programs I get involved with and commit to building.
That's the great thing about internet marketing... once you know how to brand yourself and do it correctly, you can use it to market anything and be successful.
Email me if you have any questions about either Perfect Wealth or Road Map to Riches... I'd be glad to help.
Cheers,
Brian
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talfighel
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 11:20
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I took a quick look at the site and it does look OK legit to me.
Give it a try. It may work for you.
Once you join, you need to work to get results that others have. There is no easy way of making this work for you.
And remember, the only place that success comes before Work is in the dictionary.
Tal
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gravell69
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# Posted: 29 Jun 2007 11:06
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When you say "Brand Yourself" what exactly do you mean?
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JCP
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2007 20:34 · Edited by: JCP
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Just some food for thought.
NO matter what anyone tells you, It is not EASY, making money online. Making a good living and I mean one that keeps you honest and keeps a person from scamming others involves TIME invested. There are so many ways to make money online. But, most people want a QUICK way to do it. Anyone who earns a substantual amount of money online will tell you it did NOT nor will it happen over night. If they tell you that you will, they have fabricated the truth.
It takes time, and skill to make what any of those guys make. So, be wise, and do your resarch. DO not just waste your money on the GET RICH QUICK schemes.
The bottom line is this..... There are alot of WOLVES in sheep clothing selling bull dung and titulating honest hard working people out there.
Do not be a FOOLED, nor be snared into thinking it is EASY. Yeh with time, and with the knowledge you will gain, you will become more skilled. but that my friend, does not MAKE you wealthy over night, you get out what you invest into.... Just a thought.....
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# Posted: 3 Jul 2007 21:11
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Branding yourself is about creating yourself as an "expert."
People want to work with leaders. You can accomplish this by having an appealing capture page with either your photo, photo with audio, or video.
I teach my team how to do build capture pages, use autoresponders, etc.
Cheers,
Brian
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shocfacter
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2007 18:02
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Quoting: TopMentor No... it's a 2 tier affiliate program. You earn when you sell the product, and then you get $100 overrides on all product packages they sell. MLM is several levels of payout. With MLM companies, you have to have an average of 150 people in your group just to make $1000 monthly income. With this you can earn $10,000 with just yourself or a couple of people you bring in. Brian
This is a bunch of crap. MLM, affiliate marketing, network marketing, viral marketing, matrix, 2 tier, 2up, 2 down no matter how youdress it up its all basically the same thing. You have to depend on OTHER people UNDER you. If they dont sell anything and or drop out early YOU dont make much money, PERIOD. Not to mention most people blow their wads just trying to get those first couple of sales and then they end up having to give them away. It cracks me up when people try and dream up new names to call this form of marketing. Then all these "opportunites" have their own gurus that you just "have to go hear speak" at whatever hotel in Vegas he happens to be scheduled to appear at. This is where it gets kind of cultish. If you dont go hear the resident guru speak then you are treated like crap for a while. "Shame on you for not traveling hundreds of miles to hear your guru spew his ra, ra, crap." And lets not get started on the actuall underlying product which sometimes doesnt even amount to anything but some kind of 'how to' crap or whatever it may be, that if you looked hard enough you could find for FREE yet they want YOU to pay them 100.00, 500.00, 1000.00 and up for it and want you to go out to the masses and try and convince as many of them as you can that they should also spend this kind of money for crap that could be gotten for free. Save that crap! By now most savey people now that the REAL, actual product is the money itself. The crappy product is just a front. You'd think EVERYONE would seee this by now but that old saying about a sucker being born everyday must be true.
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2007 18:24
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Quoting: alohaoahu1978 He sent me an e-mail to check out his new website and the proof of credit card payment is exactly same as he used in EDC GOLD website. Now,I lost faith on him and I'm looking for another mentor.
Most of the techniques they use to sell this crap is just all smoke and mirrors and LIES. I mean.... TESTIMONIALS?! Snap shots of deposits of cash they've made supposedly from that particular program?! I mean c'mon. I cant believe they still use these techiques and I cant believe people still fal for them. I mean I could tell you that Bob Jones from Arkansas says that Im the best thing since sliced bread but does that make it true? And who is this Bob Jones from Arkansas? Ill bet that if you dug deep enough you'd find that no such person existed. And the people on the infomercials that say "This system worked for me" are all paid actors. And as far as the snap shots of deposits c'mon. If I have to explain how these can be faked then you should immediately turn your computer off and never touch it or anything else that involves technology again. The picture I have in my head is of a baby lamb that has just been dropped smack into the middle of a lions den. And by "you" I dont mean YOU personally, I mean anyone and everyone that actually still falls for all this crap.
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# Posted: 6 Jul 2007 18:36
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Quoting: talfighel I took a quick look at the site and it does look OK legit to me. Give it a try. It may work for you. Once you join, you need to work to get results that others have. There is no easy way of making this work for you. And remember, the only place that success comes before Work is in the dictionary. Tal
Yet, all these programs say that you only have to put in a couple hours a day and the rest is party time. That doesnt sound like working hard to me. Do you know how many programs ive seen that claimed that you only had to work a few hours a day when they where trying to sell you and then when you buy in it suddenly changes to "Oh, well you have to work hard or it wont work for you" Basically this is to set it up right from the beginning to make you think that it was YOUR fault when you ultimately fail as MOST do at these things. I mean, Im not afraid of a little hard work but dont present it in the beginning that its going to be easy peezy and then change it up after a person buys in. Its ONE or the OTHER. Which one is it?
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# Posted: 8 Jul 2007 15:39 · Edited by: malibumentor
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Most people who make money in the industry are either good
marketers or very good at prospecting and closing.
For most guys starting out - they are good at neither.
Many salespeople will tell you that YOU TOO can make the
BIG DOLLARS, with virtually no skill set. This is a Lie.
Making any significant amount of money in the industry is based
on personal merit, effective work habits, ongoing personal
development, consistent READING habits, and many other
factors that make or break successful people in ANY sales
industry.
Business is business. This industry has certain advantages
as a business model, of that there is no doubt.
However, expecting to make big money with no skill or experience
is foolish. There are many bitter people out there who do not
really comprehend this truth.
All the systems out there have training in place. Some are superior
but they all require dligent work for profit.
MARKETING as a science is all about the tedious business of testing
and refining copy. Most folks lack the patience to do this and throw
money at advertising in a willy-nilly fashion.
Such a fool usually gets his reward.
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2007 11:40
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I just want to say this again~
Just some food for thought.
NO matter what anyone tells you, It is not EASY, making money online. Making a good living and I mean one that keeps you honest and keeps a person from scamming others involves TIME invested. There are so many ways to make money online. But, most people want a QUICK way to do it. Anyone who earns a substantual amount of money online will tell you it did NOT nor will it happen over night. If they tell you that you will, they have fabricated the truth.
It takes time, and skill to make what any of those guys make. So, be wise, and do your resarch. DO not just waste your money on the GET RICH QUICK schemes.
The bottom line is this..... There are alot of WOLVES in sheep clothing selling bull dung and titulating honest hard working people out there.
Do not be a FOOLED, nor be snared into thinking it is EASY. Yeh with time, and with the knowledge you will gain, you will become more skilled. but that my friend, does not MAKE you wealthy over night, you get out what you invest into.... Just a thought.....
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I remember when AMWAY was really popular. Then, I also remember when nyone woud talk to me about any kind of home based business years ago, the first thing I would ask is is this AMWAY? Now, there are so many AMWAY copy marketing out there that makes my skin crawl as soon as I am suspecious. The thing that bothers me is this about MLM.
Having to get people under you is the #1 goal.
Targeting someone to sign under me. It s like a preying of sorts, and that bothers me to the core.
What ever happend to THE PRODUCT? The man goal becomes signing people up.
The whole thing rubs me the wrong way, I know how it makes me feel.
All I can say is this~
Have you ever bouht a new car and you got Joe Slick here promising you the world, his goal getting your signiture, an you say LOOK Joe, I know you have to feed your family. I need a New car. This is what I am willing to pay. I will allow or your commision to be blah blah blah, this is what we can actually afford. Take it or leave it. And Joe Slick says let me go talk to my manager.... **This is when I say look I know what happens in the Quote Managers office~ You leave, 15 minutes later after you drink a cup a coffee, talk to your other Slick co-sales people about the guy in the waiting room and what he is going to propose to them. Never even talked to the manager. You will come back and still not even close to my price. I say JOE, I know the way this works, so if you leae this room, the deal is off! I tell him, I hate being jerked around by sales people. Honestly, I am ready to walk rightout this door. No deal. Your call. I actually grabbed my keys and tell my husband were out of here. You can imagine, what happens next.
I have dealt with so many sales people, and pushy MLM people, and just plain unethical marketors and any hint of MLM makes me cringe.
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Making Money online requires HARD Work.... "malibumentor" KUDOS! you hit the nail right on the head.
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2007 14:29
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Hi TopMentor,
My question is since branding Yourself is so essential how do you do it?
Rob Nyte
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2007 14:33
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Hey Rob,
You tell your story about home business through a professionally done website or capture page.
You actually have a pretty good site yourself!
Brian
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2007 14:34
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Hi again TopMentor,
You said You teach Your team how to brand themselves as experts in the Industry. That must take a lot of training! Nobody becomes an expert over night.
Rob Nyte
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2007 14:40
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Hey Rob,
Yes, it does take some time, but I've built a members only website for my team members to help them get started with details on autoresponder, video, audio, target marketing, etc.
It does take some time, but the ones who aren't afraid to work can become successful. This is why I created the members only site to help streamline the process so they can get their site up and going within 1-7 days or so depending on their marketing experience if any.
Great talking with you Rob.
Cheers,
Brian
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