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Doc Holliday
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# Posted: 15 Aug 2008 11:11
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I've been in the marketing/advertising/promo business for more than 30 years, and I've seen all manner of scams and come-ons. But even I was tempted by the GCFN/CMP pitch.
However, my professional antennae kept vibrating, so I Googled "Global Cash Flow Network" and wound up here. As always, I'm glad I followed my instincts.
Yes, GFCN looks, smells, and reads like a scam -- an MLM scam, no less...because I suspect that the lion's share of money being made by those CMPs is coming from roping in other CMPs underneath them.
Three things tipped me off: 1) the surplussage of pitch words (a dozen "you're almost there but time is running out" emails?!?), 2) how quickly the intial ad word "free" vanished, and 3) the obfuscation of the price(s). Something for all of you to keep in mind when you see another too-good-to-be-true road-to-instant-riches "opportunities."
Sorry to hear the horror stories of those who fell for this con. 
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DMIGUY
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Joined: 25 Aug 2008
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# Posted: 25 Aug 2008 23:28
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Thanks to all of you. I spoke to these guys for an hour this evening. Like some others, I won't plunk down my money on a whim, but they do make a strong case. Especially the idea that the $300 or $400 or $500, whichever level you choose, will be the entire outlay. And that you'll get that back after you've gone through their training. Yes, it all sounded slick. But again, thank you for keeping me out of a bad situation.
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jrlehman
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# Posted: 28 Aug 2008 19:47
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I have been with Global Cash Flow Network for about 2 weeks now. When I signed up to become CMPS (certified media placement specialist) all I paid for the program was $300. They did't push me or even ask me if I wanted the "traffic system." From all the information that I recieved, I can see how this program can help anyone make money. The Free help that I recieve 24/7 has helped me alot. I have only recieved a $10 check so far so we'll see how it goes, it's still early in the process.
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littlebj62
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2008 21:24
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I have been with GCFN since December of 2007. I have always been quite naive. I grew up in the country, went to a one-room schoolhouse, and tend to believe that people are honest. So, after taking the leap and spending the first $300 plus to get the basics, I called to talk to my level 1 'coach' as instructed. That, in fact, is your first instruction. That 'coach', it turns out was a very slick salesman. By the way, they send you that first $10.00 check right away to make you think that you are really on to something. That this is the real thing. My 'coach' saw me coming. He talked about my current debt situation. Did I like my job? Well, who the hell does? He talked to me for about an hour. He found a way to drain the last $4500.00 from my already strained credit cards. It took a couple of tries, but he pulled it off. He made it sound like this was just a walk in the park. They had done all of the legwork, and this was just a formality. God, I am a sucker. He even referred to the Bible. So, I thinking that this guy can't possibly be dishonest. Well, it's now 9 months later, and I have made a whopping $110.00. I have spent every waking hour that I am not at work, writing ads and articles to try to convince people to sign up for something that I no longer believe in. I have had weekly consultations with a VIP coach for the last few months. Even after all of this time, and the countless hours and money I spent trying to justify to myself the $5,000.00 that is now in collections, I have had only 4 prospects. Two of which were my co-workers; one from before I spent the extra $4500.00, and only one after. If this 'Ultimate Traffic System' is actually marketing 'targeted customers', why, after spending another $100.00 in postage to send out my postcards, and them swamping me website with 20,000 'targeted customers' did I only get 1 prospect?
I made a decision this weekend, that I will share with Jan from GCFN during our weekly call tomorrow to stop. I will no longer waste my time and money to promote a business that does not deliver on its' promises.
I am not deluded enough to think that they might refund any of my money. I guess that I will just look at this as a lesson learned. The worst part is that it has changed my view of mankind. I live in a town of about 3,000 people. We don't lock our doors, we know each other, and if someone tells you they are going to do something, you can trust that. Welcome to the World Wide Web.
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nivram
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Joined: 10 Sep 2008
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# Posted: 10 Sep 2008 13:26
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This program is all smoke and mirrors if you read their terms and conditions you will see that they do not stand behind nothing see below a statement from their terms of agreement.
DISCLAIMER FOR CONTENTS OF SITE
The website disclaims any responsibility for the accuracy of the content of this website. Visitors assume the all risk of viewing, reading, using, or relying upon this information. Unless you have otherwise formed an express contract to the contrary with the website, you have no right to rely on any information contained herein as accurate. The website makes no such warranty.
DISCLAIMER FOR HARM CAUSED TO YOUR COMPUTER OR SOFTWARE FROM INTERACTING WITH THIS WEBSITE OR ITS CONTENTS. VISITOR ASSUMES ALL RISK OF VIRUSES, WORMS, OR OTHER CORRUPTING FACTORS.
The website assumes no responsibility for damage to computers or software of the visitor or any person the visitor subsequently communicates with from corrupting code or data that is inadvertently passed to the visitor's computer. Again, visitor views and interacts with this site, or banners or pop-ups or advertising displayed thereon, at his own risk.
DISCLAIMER FOR HARM CAUSED BY DOWNLOADS
Visitor downloads information from this site at this own risk. Website makes no warranty that downloads are free of corrupting computer codes, including, but not limited to, viruses and worms.
Don't waist your time or money it is not worth it!!!
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amoney112
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# Posted: 25 Sep 2008 15:08
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I actually work for them and I find it to be a good business. I get checks in the mail on a weekly basis from them. At 1st I was skeptical but I gave them a try and what I really like is the fact that they are very helpful. You cn call them if you get stuck or need help with anything.
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Amg46
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# Posted: 5 Oct 2008 21:36
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I've been with GCFN for 3 months. Bought the basic package & then up one.Yes, they are available to help when you call, which is a big plus to them, and they do have a good team of people to work with them and train us. I have been spending every spare moment on this and if it's going to be months before a return then it's too hard.
The thing is a huge number of people want to give up their job.
There must be a legitimate way to make money online.
Even if it's not squilions, just good money would be nice, forget the telephone numbers B.S.
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Amg46
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# Posted: 6 Oct 2008 00:31
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I'm just looking at joining Hits2u. Has anyone out there had any good experience with them What about Global Domains International?
I'd love to hear from any one with first hand experience.
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Cilly
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# Posted: 9 Oct 2008 22:22
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Hi, my name's Cilantro Fournier, yes I know it's an unusual first name, but you have to admit once you hear it, you don't easily forget it. LOL Now numerous other people started thinking outside the box and giving their children unique names like "Apple", "Heaven Rain", "Devon Rose", etc. My parents were just ahead of the times when they named me or perhaps they just wanted a valid reason to call me Cilly. Well, I'm not really silly � I'm actually extremely smart, if I wasn't I would never have done the research I did prior to getting involved with Global Cash Flow Network, which I'm now going to share with you.
Global Cash Flow Network has a 5 star rating and is ranked number one for legitimate work from home programs. They also received a positive rating from Rip-Off Report. They also made a sincere commitment to resolve all customer complaints.
You've heard the saying "You can't please all the people, all the time"? Well, that's exceptionally true in business, especially when you have a large operation. Global Cash Flow Network has 100 staff members and opened a new 9,000 square foot training facility in late October 2007. They have over 15,000 clients/students and receive over 5,000 request per week for information. They make no promises that you will get rich quick, in fact they make no pledge that you will make money, but they do say the potential is there and it's up to you how quickly you get started. BTW, they offer a 12 month guarantee that if you didn't make the funds you expected you will get your money refunded. In order to receive this refund you must prove that you completed the 14 step check list. This is not just a business you are buying into � they also provides complete training to help you learn how to operate your business. LOL if you follow the directions, they will refund the cost of your program, minus shipping and handling and the income you acquire in the 12 mouths you were in the program.
Global Cash Flow Network receives less than one complaint a year for approximately every 1,047 students. How many other work from home company's can say the same or any other business?
The majority of complaints are from clients/students that weren't committed to completing the Program, didn't start making as much money as they thought, didn't read the fine print to know what their obligations were, and didn't follow the proper procedures outlined in their guarantee. But, regardless, Mary Gersten made a commitment to provide outstanding customer service so you can feel confident and secure dealing with them.
I joined Global Cash Flow Network in late September 2008 and it was one of the best decisions I ever made.
I was so excited when I discovered Global Cash Flow Network, a legitimate work from home company. Most of my life I've been living pay cheque to pay cheque, putting a little aside for my retirement. Than something totally unexpected happened, I was diagnosed with an inoperable brain tumor. The good news it's controllable, the bad news, I was going to have to undergo radiation and chemo treatments every few years for the rest of my life.
As you can imagine, I had to make some drastic changes in my life that impacted my ability to do the jobs that kept a roof over my head and the money I had put away for my future I had to use to cover my increasing medical expenses. I was close to hitting rock bottom, stressed out and didn't have a clue what I could do to help myself.
Fortunately, Global Cash Flow Network provided the answer I was frantically searching for. Not only did they help me open my own business I could work from home, they provide hands on training so I can become a Certified Media Placement Specialist. Their staff works diligently with me to ensure I am doing everything possible to succeed. Whenever I have a question, I just have to call and speak with a my advisor � no automated response to leave a message, a real live person! How often does that happen in this day and age?
Not only do they provide an intensive training manual, access to speak with a live representative, they also supply you with numerous FREE bonus that are very beneficial to helping you succeed. In addition, they have several other programs available that compliment your original course that can help you create the income you desire. There is no obligation to purchase them, but I would highly recommend that you do take advantage of them.
I love the Guaranteed Traffic Advertising Program. This program directs traffic to your sites and as you know the more people that visit your site, the better your changes are of making money. It also provides you with pre-printed post card with all YOUR information on them and contact labels from people that have requested information on contacting them.
They also have an Executive Media Package that gives you many benefits to help Triple Your Opportunity to Make Money. Radio/Audio Link on your sites, Magnetic Client Catcher and Auto-Contactor and your own 1-800 number. Your 1-800 number and sites are on the Postcards if you've purchased the Guaranteed Traffic Advertising Program.
Thanks to them, I am no longer stressed out, I'm not locked into a 9 to 5 position, and I can work on my terms. And, best of all I don't have to worry about my finances when it comes to my medical treatments. What a relief to have that stress eliminated!!!
Thank you for reading this, I hope you will find my experience beneficial to you and how it could ad some clarity on this topic. Oh BTW, I've already received one cheque from them. 
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cls
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2008 07:44
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Hi, I have to agree with thekb. These people do have a product that delivers what they say. Right up front they tell you this is not a get rich quick scheme. What they are giving you is a course in internet marketing with their product as a project so you can learn. I have only invested in the basic and executive packages and I'm not sure I would suggest going any further than that until you are comfortable. I have really enjoyed the work and find the lessons invaluable. Yes you can go out and learn all about this stuff for free somewhere on the web but the vast amount of information and the huge number of places to get distracted make for a long learning period. Joining Global Cash Flow Network is akin to paying tuition for a college course as opposed to doing all your studying on your own at the library. They condense and streamline the info for you and have many people who know what they are talking about to help you out. I started looking into internet marketing about 2 years ago and found all the information confusing and overwhelming. But when I started with GCFN it took only weeks to learn what I needed (Though I think the learning never stops in this field). What they teach you is not just for their company. I now have 3 different websites promoting many different things. Again they are not selling a get rich quick scheme but I personally have found the lessons invaluable.
Good luck with whichever choice you make.
Cherie
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2008 13:03
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Hello,
I'm also a new member with GCFN but not new to marketing. If you own e-commerce websites like I do that are not getting off the ground or struggling during these economic times this program can help by applying what you learned through multiple advertising methods. Yes, you can learn them on your own but it could take a novice many years to master them all. I know Search Engine Optimization inside and out and let me tell you folks getting on page one takes alot of commitment, dollars and advertising skills. The structure of this program is simply to earn while you learn to grow your automated websites.
GCFN has grown tremendously since the first post and I would truthfully have to say I have not seen some of the problems in the earlier posts and I suspect like any new concept car, many of the bugs have been improved on. My experience has been GCFN makes it very easy to get your money back if you make a small effort to complete 14 easy steps to show that you at least made an effort. Secondly, I am always receiving emails and phone calls from advisors to check on my progress and as far as making thousands, the program is automated and all you need to do is:
1. Have a positive attitude (negative attitudes always fail)
2. Desire to learn continuously (marketing is always evolving)
3. Apply, monitor and improve your methods of advertising
3. Have realistic goals
If your looking for a shortcut to riches, don't call, but if you want to learn and start a lucrative home business make a call.
Best regards,
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SolarRuin
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# Posted: 12 Oct 2008 23:33
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yeah i am new to this online business as well and i have noticed that everywhere you go there is just tons of scams out there so becareful do your research and good luck.
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dieselpower2
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# Posted: 17 Oct 2008 01:33
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Well i just recently signed up with global cash flow network under strange circumstances. And an 8:00pm+ call tells me they found the right guy(how the explitive did they choose me) or are desperate. We are all looking for a change to be in here so hopefully my choice was the right 1. All i can say is ill bring my hard working do more and cut me some slack on the b.s. (ata ata 2ts?)attitude and hope for the best.
p.s. sorry for those that feel theve been screwed
p.p.s. hope i dont get screwed...
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jrlehman
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# Posted: 21 Oct 2008 11:04
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It's been about two months since I joined GCFN and i am still learning. I have recieved a few checks since I signed up. The best part is being able to pick up the phone and recieve the help I may need. The staff at GCFN has been very supportive to me. I feel that joining this program will help me to be able to actually work from home and to quit my full time job.
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bachelis
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# Posted: 22 Oct 2008 01:24
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I am SO SICK of all the people who fell they are being totally scammed on this site that I finally just had to SPEAK OUT, and let the truth be known.
No matter how good any opportunity is, there will always be those who fail, and those who fail will always blame the system and never themselves. Rather than say they didn't work, or were just watching TV, they will say that the system was bad, despite never having worked on it AT ALL.
I have PROOF that most people who invest in this system do EXACTLY THAT!
Now, when you sign up for the opportunity, you get your very own website that promotes it FOR YOU! You just send traffic, and Mary Gersten's staff will convert your prospects in to customers FOR YOU. You never have to call or sell anything to ANYONE, EXCEPT to DRIVE TRAFFIC TO THE SITE. This is our job as promoters of this opportunity.
NOTE: It's not a pyramid scheme because you can use the content and the information to wisely promote any opportunity you feel is good that can help generate you an extra income. If you have a blog, just join commission junction or clickbank and you'll see what I mean.
When signing up for the program, there is a 14 point check list, that if you complete, you will receive your tuition fee BACK. Of course you need proof of completion because, they don't want people lying to them. They are business minded people, no surprise there.
Now, I have been hearing complaints about how it costs hundreds of dollars to do this checklist earlier in the forum, and now, I am going to debunk that myth by REVEALING THE ENTIRE CHECKLIST RIGHT HERE!!!!......for those lucky enough to discover it. And to PROVE ONCE and FOR ALL, that this is not a scam, but something that lazy people call it for not WORKING IT!. There's only 14 steps, and some can be completed in under 15 minutes.
NOTE: THIS WON'T BE FOUND ANYWHERE ELSE ON THE INTERNET
disclaimer: except at her training site.
1. Call their support staff
2. Read the material they sent you
3. Create an e-mail signature.
4. Send an e-mail
5. Create a correspondence letter
6. have traffic at your website.
7. write some free online classifieds
8. write an offline classified
9. write an article on a newsgroup.
10. write press releases and/or articles
11. Create a business card
12. Send out a mailer (just a simple postcard, doesn't specify how many)
13. Create a pay per click ad
14. Submit this list to Mary Gersten.
NOW! None of these require any large amount of money, and since she doesn't specify how many mailers or traffic you need, simply one will do, heck, you could pay for only one click, and it would STILL SATISFY the Requirements!(if your that much of an underacheiver, lol) Anyone who says this costs $100s! Was LYING!
Now, in ADDITION, Mary Gersten has a support staff, available by phone anytime during the day ready to support you if for any reason any of this steps were confusing to you
in ADDITION - she has videos where she PERSONALLY tells you HOW to accomplish each steps, INCLUDING how to read it, in case you didn't know how! She is THAT THOROUGH!
NOTE: in the binder that is provided to you, sample ads are provided that you can copy to start advertising the SECOND YOU GET IT! (though I would always recommend a personal touch)
NOTE: You can get free business cards at vistaprint, in case you are on a tight budget.
NOW!! Here is the proof I was writing about earlier.
at www.my24hourwebcash.com, this homepage automatically loads a random person's web page who is enrolled in the program. Mine is www.my24hourwebcash.com/bachelis9640.
One of the points on her checklist was to simply write an article on your site. Not very difficult at all. Perhaps you could just write about who you are, and what you are doing, something very simple.
After loading the page over 50 times.
NOT ONE PAGE HAD A SINGLE ARTICLE ON IT!
THEY WERE ALL COOKIE CUTTER COPIES WITH NO PERSONAL TOUCHES OF ANY KIND!
You know what that means?
Most people who buy this, put it on the shelf and forget about it, and NEVER ACT ON ANY OF THE INFORMATION!
No wonder most businesses fail if they want to succeed by doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
now, my website link is in my signature - You can get to my website simply by visiting straightforwardwealth.com
I have an article, a link to my blog, AS WELL AS, a link to where you can sign up for a FREE WEBSITE.
I'm working to make this a success by writing articles, writing classified ads, and all of that marketing is ABSOLUTELY FREE - well, Pay-per-clicks aren't, so I haven't focused on that so much.
Does this information seem straight-forward enough for you??
NOTE: If you are a
-complainers
-whiners
-quitter
-blamer
-40 hour work week seeker
THEN THIS PROGRAM IS NOT FOR YOU!
otherwise, I think you might actually succeed at this.
Can you follow that simple checklist?
The most important thing ISN'T to do everything perfectly RIGHT
but to just do everything FIRST, and then fix it later.
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danceswithwords
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# Posted: 24 Nov 2008 17:52
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I just spent 45 minutes listening to the salesmen's pitches...yes that is plural...after getting worked over by one I was handed off to another one....unfortunately for them, being retired and having been around the block a few times and doing some google research on them while their audio taped pitch went on for 11 minutes I realized it was a money making scheme all right...them making money off me!
They would definitely be quite happy to make off with my money. I'm not sure how I even managed to be so lucky as to get a phone call from them but I am sure that I wont get another one back.
A word to those looking for a legitimate way to make money on the internet....if it sounds too good to be true...it is! Making money at anything takes hard work and committment.
If you are easily persuaded by slick sales pitches..hang up when they tell you who they are....go out and treat yourself to a nice dinner. You just saved yourself hundreds it not thousands of dollars. YOU WON!
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KentNoble
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2008 05:01
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I just got my CMPS manual from Global.
Next step was a phone call asking me to pay them several thousand dollars for advertising.
I said no. Very persistent hard sell.
In the sales material it promised up to $400 or more per day but didn't say that to achieve this I would have to hand over several thousand dollars not just the $300 for the course.
Deceptive advertising.
Seems that the whole marketing game is about selling their CMPS program to other unsuspecting suckers.
Sorry my ethics are better than that.
I took a look at the Rip Off Report page on Global http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/278/RipOff0278691.htm
and what is that at the bottom of the page?
Rip-Off Report's address is Rip-off Report
PO Box 310 - Tempe, Arizona
U.S.A
Global Cash Flow's address is
1753 E. Broadway, Suite# 101-287, Tempe, AZ 85282
Same town!!!! What are the chances of that?
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wahl2008
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# Posted: 19 Dec 2008 08:24
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Mary Gersten: Well, recently I attended a charity breakfast held by the Boys and Girls Club. We were there to make a pledge for a donation. As a matter of fact, the director there challenged our company to match the Wells Fargo donation. Wells Fargo pledged $10,000 so we matched their pledge. Although it was really funny because they had one of those giant checks, you know, but it wasn't signed. So I had said, 'We're going to match the Wells Fargo donation except ours is going to be signed.' It was a wonderful experience. They had several teenagers there that talked about how their lives were changed by the Boys and Girls Club. The Boys and Girls Club is an outreach program basically towards troubled teens. There are a lot of teens that are in households of single mothers that work a lot and maybe don't have a father involved at all with their children. "
It appears that in this day and age of scams and money wasting programs, there are a few diamonds that still rise to the top.
There is a whole generation out there that is looking for something they can do from home. The daily commute, the money spent in travelling, what to do with the kids and countless other problems crowd in on an individual in modern society.
BUT, it looks like positive steps are still available to reverse the negative trends afterall.
What do you think?
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# Posted: 26 Feb 2009 14:00
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