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getagrip
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# Posted: 24 May 2007 21:34
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Quoting: gkamm I asked for a refund but UWP/Mark Warren is giving me the run-around saying I have to prove that their program doesn't work.
You can get a refund by emailing Clickbank directly - here is the link below:
https://www.clickbank.com/csinquiry.html
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bartholomew313
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# Posted: 25 May 2007 18:54
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Thanks a mil for the providing the link to Clickbank; I had just decided to chalk it up when I read your post. Thanks again and thank goodness for this website and the good people who take the time to post.
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matahati
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# Posted: 26 May 2007 23:36
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Hi to everybody,
Im a new members of ultimate wealthpackage. can someone tell how can market it.
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pingbotan
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# Posted: 27 May 2007 06:56
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And information from forums are F.O.C. too 
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makemoneyonline
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# Posted: 29 May 2007 12:40 · Edited by: makemoneyonline
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Quoting: matahati Hi to everybody, Im a new members of ultimate wealthpackage. can someone tell how can market it.
Why the UWP? Do you know how many people are promoting the uwp? TONS! You should try for something with less competition. Then maybe try google adwords, or set up a review site or a blog.
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040107
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 18:39
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Quoting: matahati Im a new members of ultimate wealthpackage. can someone tell how can market it.
Better start by reading and using the information in the package itself. I would never recommend UWP but since you've bought it,
use the information in there to market it. If you have no success, why would you want to market it to others?
The first training for promoting a product should be that product's own affiliate support area.
Where most people fail is when they buy a product expecting some secret to make money then they end up not doing anything with the information in the product.
Instead, they try to market the products to others without knowing if the product is any good.
Good luck on promoting something that has been getting a lot of bad publicity.
Beating Adwords is a much better product. 
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makemoneyonline
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# Posted: 30 May 2007 21:20
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How old is Mark Warren anyway? Geez he must be making a killing with all the copies he has sold. Then again, a lot of them are most likely refunds.
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robertlaf
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# Posted: 31 May 2007 00:21
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Quoting: malibumentor I don't promote it or use it, but I have read some of the material used to sell it, and its very solid indeed. The company is http://Sitesell.com and I think for those who want to master affiliate marketing its a very good place to start. It has a site builder and webhosting thing that is proprietary, so you give up a lot of control... but it has been around for a long time and has good credibility. http://sitesell.com
UWP recommends using Sitesell to build a website? Or Sitesell has something to do with developing UWP?
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yanny11uk
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 00:07
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Now this is called FREE & fair review. I was looking for comments on Ultimate wealth package. Thanks a lot friends.
Yanny
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malibumentor
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 14:03
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Quoting: getagrip at the very bottom of the Ultimate Wealth Package webpage, there is something that says: "You are beyond all hope if you do not order as soon as you finish reading this message. Your hand should be reaching for your credit card this very second." Do you really want to do business with someone like that?
This is an example of hypnotic suggestion. Whether its a good
example is open to question. Nevertheless, its interesting,
and something to look out for in the future.
Just because a sales page is using hypnotic suggestion (or NLP*
techniches) to close the sale doesn't mean its a B.S. product or
not a good value. It merely indicates that the person who wrote
the salesletter is aware of the power of sucggestion.
NLP: neurolinguistic programming
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getagrip
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 15:07 · Edited by: getagrip
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Quoting: malibumentor Just because a sales page is using hypnotic suggestion (or NLP* techniches) to close the sale doesn't mean its a B.S. product or not a good value.
You are right - but the fact that it gets horrible reviews all over the internet should be enough to warn people to stay away from it...
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yanny11uk
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2007 22:19
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The guys who give the actual reviws are very lesser as compared to the sellers promoting. Thats why its selling like hot cake.
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getagrip
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2007 01:49
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Its selling because people who promote it won't tell the truth about it...
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040107
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# Posted: 3 Jun 2007 14:12
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Quoting: getagrip Its selling because people who promote it won't tell the truth about it...
You're absolutely right!
Most people promoting UWP probably never even bought the product themselves and review sites are set up to get you to buy the darn thing anyhow.
From what I gather, the best place for real feedbacks from real users are forums such as this where everyone has a chance to speak about the product.
This is multi-way communication, unlike websites that promotes products such as UWP which is only one-way communication. Being that the promoter is the only one able to deliever a message, you can bet that he/she will always sugarcoat it.
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systemfan1188
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2007 17:30
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Yeah i've seen quite a few products off of clickbank that you know aren't worth a penny but are still selling well or have a lot of competition.
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virtualyou
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2007 09:20
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Well, this package is just like the rest of them. But not to discourage you are anything, you are up against a ton of competition in the pay-per-click space.
With the rising cost of PPC traffic, it's hard to turn a profit anymore.
I ended up buying the Ultimate Wealth Package from a guy that was giving away this software that tracks sales down to the keyword level.
In my opinion, this is the only way to go.
I ended up cutting my PPC cost by 50% from using the software because it told me what keywords were wasting me money for a Clickbank product I was promoting.
I wish I had the guy's affiliate site so that you can order through his link and get the software.
The software is called Keyword Radar, but you can't buy it anywhere.
Good luck!
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reviewteam
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# Posted: 8 Jun 2007 14:01
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Our team definatly recommends that you DO NOT purchase this product. After you purchase it they just want more money and it takes so long for there Email support. And you can tell they dont wanna give you a refund.
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sassy99
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# Posted: 11 Jun 2007 07:23
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I wish I stumbled on this forum before I fell prey to this "auntie" called Irene Tan. I have a feeling it's someone else in disguise. Aunties who are not savvy on the internet will not be able to come up with a scam like this. I am one such auntie aged 48 who lost her job and trying to make some extra money but got tricked instead. She should not be allowed to do this to poor unsuspecting people. I thought I would be selling products on the internet but it turned out to be just reselling the Package. And the website she provided also competes with her websites. I guess she has more money to spend on advertising which I don't have. I have asked for a refund from Clickbank after reading the posts and did not get an answer yet. Has anyone gotten their money back?
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mondele
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# Posted: 13 Jun 2007 02:10
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How anyone can say that the Ultimate Wealth Package sucks is just beyond me. His ebook is over 300 pages and the package is just what it says. A huge package of Internet Marketing info.
Sure he may have started off on the wrong foot, but he had an idea and ran with it and it payed off big time. I've been promoting his site and while it may not make me rich anytime soon I did make 4 sales today.
That's $100 out of many different products that I promote.
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040107
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 02:42
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Quoting: mondele How anyone can say that the Ultimate Wealth Package sucks is just beyond me. His ebook is over 300 pages and the package is just what it says. A huge package of Internet Marketing info. Sure he may have started off on the wrong foot, but he had an idea and ran with it and it payed off big time. I've been promoting his site and while it may not make me rich anytime soon I did make 4 sales today. That's $100 out of many different products that I promote.
Well, obviously quite a lot of people are saying UWP sucks and are requesting refunds.
Yes, he had an idea and ran with it and it payed off big time. But it payed off for who? Obviously himself and people promoting that product.
Of course, it has a high gravity so people are making sales. But that's just it. It's sales from promoting the product itself.
For the price, I guess it's not a bad product for a newbie. But how does it compare to other product at the same price range? I think there are even free ebooks that has as much content or even more.
By the way, with all the complaints, I wonder what the numbers are like after refunds?
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 16:21
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So I gather to stay away from UWP. I'm still thinking of getting Average Joe, he answered a question I had in 1 day. What other programs out there are just resellers of theirselves?
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jameszz
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 17:22
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It's a good program. Even if it is just reselling itself, you receive like $60 or so per sale? thats great, who cares if hes making money? you are too, and people will continue to buy it, its a good way to make money. You can make the money back in 2 sales, it's worth it in my opinion. It doesn't make it a scam if its reselling itself, you make money from it.
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 18:06
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To me if its only reselling itself and he makes it sound like your selling all these different products then it is a scam. Looking at his website it never says what your actually selling.
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workingfromhome
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# Posted: 14 Jun 2007 19:56
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thats true, it does advertise that way, but I guess it is just his product in the end.
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# Posted: 27 Jun 2007 01:53
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Quoting: Bucky "I am glad to see that people are realizing what a scam Ultimate Wealth Package is."
Honestly speaking I think it is an unfair assessment to refer to the Mark warren Ultimate wealth package as a scam. This is a phenomenal wealth of information on internet marketing � covering virtually every thing on successful internet marketing. He has even gone as far as revealing his personal marketing strategies which may be considered throwing out to the public trade secretes. As I read the Ultimate Wealth and the accompanying e-books of the package, I was amazed at the top business secretes that were reveled in there.
The problem though is that a lot of us buy the package with the expectation of making the promised fortune from it sales (even without reading it), instead of reading, and applying the knowledge to build a successful online business. Of course it is possible to make money selling the Ultimate Wealth Package. In fact many have and are still making six figure in come from it sales. But there is no way the uninitiated in this business can effectively market the package without first reading the package it self to understand the strategies to apply for effective marketing of the product.
The dollar amount that one can make from the sales of the book is only a part of the multiple streams of in come that can be generated by applying the wealth of knowledge contained in the package.
But honestly it requires time and persistence. If you cannot seat down to read the package and apply the knowledge, you are not likely to find it useful. Also you must be must be prepared and have the patience to put up with a customer service that may not be the best.
From my personal experience, the package is the best compared to all others that I have tried so far, even though their support/customer service needs more attention.
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ebusnewbie
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# Posted: 28 Jun 2007 02:24
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I have recently purchased the Ultimate Wealth Package.
The company running the 'program' is either very dishonest , completely disorganized, or a mixture of both.
For anybody considering investing their hard earned money in the package , all I can say is read this first and then make an informed decision . If you rely on the testimonials that purportedly come from satisfied customers , all you are likely to read will be misleading and at times completely dishonest.
If you read the promotional material , as I did , you will more than likely be fairly impressed. Remember , it is promotional! They are trying to get you to buy. Umfortunately I took them at their word and spent $49.95 on the package and then another $49.95 on the vamped-up pro package which offers you so much more if you buy there and then. After signing up and accepting the offer of a free website , I was directed to midphase for website hosting services at a cost of $119.40 for the year. Whoever runs the Ultimate Wealth Package obviously takes an affiliates commission for every new sign-up , so again they persuaded me to give them money.
I heard nothing from them for a few days , then I recieved an email with nothing in it , I mean a blank email. They then sent an email telling me to sign up for pay per click advertising ,(no doubt they get a pay off from this too) but I couldn't buy ppc advertising until I had personalized my website . I sent so many emails to them asking for assistance with this that I lost count, eventually opting for the phone to try and sort things out, where I was talked through setting up a clickbank account(no doubt they get a pay off there too). Still not able to help as far as the website goes though.
I kept contacting them , still didn't recieve any reply after a week and then somebody from the company called me asking where I wanted to take my internet business, what were my goals for it ? Of course , like any normal person trying to start a business on the net , I said I wanted to give up my day job and make a really good living from e-commerce. I thought anybody signing up for 'The Ultimate Wealth Package' would probably be thinking similarly ,but apparently not. Apparently the pro package is for the 'Hobbyist' not the 'Pro' and I shouldn't expect much from it. That was a bit different from the advertising and promotional material that got me to buy in the first place , but I decided to hear the guy out and listened to him pitch a more comprehensive package that would make me money in no time at all. He was so convinced that this could make me money , he advised me to take out a new credit card to fund it , oh yes , the new package has an entry level of $5,000 to $10,000 , most people start at $20,000 or more I am told!
These sort of prices are way out of my league and having had no contact from the package providers advising me of what to do to start making money and how to personalise my website I decided to give it up. I contacted them and asked for a refund , only to be told(oh yes , they answered that one) that I can make as much money as I like ! Still no advise how to get started though! Again I asked for cancellation information , this time to be told I can only have a refund after trying the product for 60 days and providing proof after that period that it didn't work for me, which they say I won't be able to do because they know the system works . Catch 22!
The website is just a ploy to get you to sign up for midphase services and to promote the package as a whole to another group of unsuspecting buyers , perpetuating the whole thing. If you have any sense you will avoid it . If you get involved , you will become frustrated ,feel let down and ultimately if you do make any sales on the free website , create a bunch of misery for someone else .
I'm still looking for a decent business start up opportunity on the net , I'm sure there must be some out there but , Ultimate Wealth Package is definately not one of them. Anybody telling you that it is has a vested interest in it . Remember , everyone signed up is selling it on their free website.
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Dave B
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# Posted: 30 Jun 2007 13:36 · Edited by: Dave B
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I've just caught up with this post and it makes pretty grim reading...
UWP is the standard 'Guru scam' package.
If you want to make money online you have to bite the bullet. There is NO 'get rich quick'. It is a business like any other offline business. In many ways it's even harder...
I'm a member of Wealthy Affiliates and I don't hide that. Beating Adwords was mentioned in the title of this post...that's a WA product and is THE adwords bible IMO
If you want to make a real effort. And 'effort' is the word... check out WA and their family of products...
ALL their intro pages say the same thing... if you want it easy...sod off...but if you are prepared to work hard and learn... we'll help...
And they do...
I've got reviews of all the WA stuff on my blog. Check it out. I really don't care if you buy stuff or join WA via my links on there but please don't buy any more 'Guru crap'
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# Posted: 5 Jul 2007 14:43
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I HAVE JUST JOINED THE UWP AND I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ACTUALLY MADE ANY MONEY FROM THE PACKAGE AFTER REALLY READING AND APPLYING WHAT WAS IN THE PACKAGE? THANKS
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ljwillette
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2007 17:32
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Well I wish I had found these posts before I purchased the UWP but right now I'm broke and all in this. Wish me luck.
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penway
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# Posted: 7 Jul 2007 23:21
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Quoting: ebusnewbie I have recently purchased the Ultimate Wealth Package. The company running the 'program' is either very dishonest , completely disorganized, or a mixture of both.
ebusnewbie, five days ago I basically followed your same twisted journey to the tune of $219.30. What a nightmare. Glad I found this site, maybe with Clickbank we can salvage something. This is the second internet scam pulled on me, but I am convinced there is legitimate money to be made on the web. I plan to come to this website with any new online business venture before taking the plunge. As Scarlett famously said, "There's always tomorrow."
Caveat Emptor and all that jazz,
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