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FreeCashMan
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 13:04
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Is anyone having any success with the leads that you get with Paul Birdsall's Streamline Funnel System. Is it worth paying for the leads at that price of @ $40 monthly?
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mellin
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 13:18
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I followed this thing through the prelaunch. I got in early and had nearly 30,000 people underneath me. I was curious how this thing was going to work. On launch night, they seemed to change their tune. Instead of paying $9.95 to get in and then split the profits in half with the company, it turned out to be 9.95 for the first 3 days, then 39.95 a month after that. For everyone who joins underneath you and pays 39.95, you would get a $15 commission (not quite the 50% they promised).
Here's the kicker. They promised they would send out your link to 10,000 double opt in leads. That changed too. Now, it is that you are put on a rotator with 25 other people for those 10,000 leads, meaning that you would only end up with about 400 leads.
This is how I understood it anyways. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me. I'm just glad that I watched this thing play out rather than lose money to it.
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getagrip
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 14:24
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Usually, paying for leads and that kind of thing is a waste of money...
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yahia
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 23:44
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getagrip: Usually, paying for leads and that kind of thing is a waste of money... Couldn't agree more. The only good leads are those you generate yourself.
Let's do some math:
You pay 39.95 every month to get leads, who are already involved in any kind of MLM or so (why would they join otherwise?), and you get your ads visited by 400 people (??????). The best sales page converts at 1-2%.
Another scenario: You pay 10-20 every month for your own autoresponder, 0-10 for your webhosting, and you can generate laser targeted traffic to your own capture pages (taylored to fit with your audience) for free.
My opinion: never buy or pay anyone to generate leads for you.
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paolo4
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2009 06:55
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Hi,
Do not throw away your money paying for your leads.
You have to learn to use Niche Marketing, which is about finding a particular subject to find the most specific group of people to market to as possible.
Hope this helps.
All the best, Paolo
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2009 12:01
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A quick lesson on marketing. First of all people actually go to universities and earn degrees in this field and are paid big bucks to implement cost effective programs.
To undercut the importance of education in this field leads to total failure. Now lets look at the internet, people always say that the internet is the key to advertising your progam to the masses. Now this can be true if you spent the time and mastered just one of the many ways to advertize. Of course these venues ( the one your on now) do not work in general because your preaching to the choir. Everbody is trying to convince each other that there program is the best.
The next big waste of time is free classified ads. Why? The above reason applies.
So, unless you are prepared to take the time and study at least one way of advertizing, be it e-mail campaigns, ppc, search engines or blogs or a host of many, then just don't bother.
Learn one skill before you try to learn the next. If you follow this simple advice, you will do much better.
Skydancer
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yahia
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# Posted: 11 Jul 2009 13:20
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Excellent post skydancer Thanks
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sean159
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2009 23:31
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The Streamline Funnel System actually has me fairly worried right now... I paid the 10 bucks to join thinking this might actually be a good thing... 10 bucks for 10K leads ... Didn't sound like a big waste to me as well and like cashman said the whole tune did change so I immediately sent an email request to Refund my money and get my aff link out of the system I have yet to receive a reply yet and I found in the back office ( I might add that this website is junk) that They do not offer refunds so I really just want out now and to not be charged 50bucks for 400 leads that are not guaranteed to pay.
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daddyosb
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 12:01
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I joined Streamlime Funnel System about 2 or 3 weeks ago. now I would like to cancel my membership but can not. In the back office they say to send a e-mail from support . When I go to support all I see is a list of about 10 answers for other questions that people may have. No way to send a e-mail. So how do I cancel this B.S.
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mellin
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 16:13
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Can you cancel through your credit card or bank?
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