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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 28 May 2009 15:44
I guess they are trying to show that they are still making this work. Instead of going through and giving people 2 and then others not getting any, they are trying to get everyone 1 for now then go back through and get them their 2nd one. Again, I am not the owner so I am just relaying info that I received from the training calls. You cycle when you get 6 under you, so the 2 that they give you, then the 2 that they give each of them, that makes 6, then you cycle and make $400.
I would say that if you're going to be 100% passive in this and you don't have $325 to sit on for a little bit, this may not be where you want to go with your money. Again, only if your passive and only if you can't sit on $325 for a little bit. I believe this program is still working, they are constantly adding more and more telemarketers so that they can get everyone their 2, it's just taking more time than what it used to because so many people have joined. If you're a marketer and you really want to make some good money, or even a new person looking to get into something that they can make money with marketing online, Regenesis is perfect. They've never missed a payment and the system works. The pay plan is awesome, and they really do care about how the program works and how the program helps others. Regenesis 2x2 will be around for a long time, regardless, that's my opinion. There are of course no guarantees in life. But helping others understand how they can make money, helps everyone make money 
By the way VTX, i have received other checks from regenesis, just haven't posted them on videos as to not hurt my team from them getting sign ups under them and not me.
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zechkoh
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 05:45
Hi Jason,
I've been following this thread for a few days but i've decided to break my silence. I am new to regenesis (since I've just discovered it a few days ago) but I still have some doubts.
What happens to the people you are sponsoring after you recycle? Do they recycle back to your team? Is it possible that I am able to find a sponsor who I can be mentored by...since im such a newbie in this field...or at least someone who can give me some sort of guidance?
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webeneur
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 11:15
like i said, i treated it as if i were at the craps table in vegas when i signed up...
i am concerned that as "inconveniences" arise due to growth (growth is good, right?), people are willing to explain it away each time with no better answer than "faith" it will get better.
question - how can someone prove that telemarketers are being hired? currently, there is only a voice at the end of the line telling us all of this, but no substantive proof. i hope he's not grinning and sipping a mojito on an island somewhere
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webeneur
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 11:19
...also, i am very upset if they plan to give ANY sign ups to recent members before their commitments are honored to earlier members.
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rob13
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 11:35
I know what you but honestly you never though... I'm still passive and had any luck getting anyone to join, But I still hope that I'll at least 1 person under from Regenesis. I know that it will probably take another 4+ weeks for me to see anybody under or a check but that's cool. Hopefully Regenesis can catch up help everyone soon...
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vtx1800
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 12:16
webeneur: ...also, i am very upset if they plan to give ANY sign ups to recent members before their commitments are honored to earlier members.
Yes the problem is in theory there will always be a new member who needs a new member and they will never get back to you.
I have a new view of this program after further review. I now believe if you work it you will make money early and if you go passive at this point you will not make any money. Those who put in the effort will make money before this thing folds.
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vtx1800
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 12:55
webeneur: question - how can someone prove that telemarketers are being hired?
The simple answer is you cant prove this. You can not verify much with this company other then the address is a UPS store. I dont think he is grinning and sipping a mojito on an island somewhere........ but I bet he will be in about 6 months 
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mellin
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 13:27
vtx1800: I now believe if you work it you will make money early and if you go passive at this point you will not make any money. Those who put in the effort will make money
I agree, to an extent. I understand the frustration if people feel like new members are getting people positioned under them before old members do. However, this is the only program that will put people under you and allow you to sit on your butt, do nothing, and make money. If you want to wait 6 months (an exaggeration) for the money, that's your choice. I believe that if you work this program, you can make a lot of money.
My point is, it's is hard to get something for nothing without paying a price. The price here is that if you do nothing, you will wait longer for payout. So, the choice here is to sit around moaning and groaning about that, or get up and DO something about it.
-Melissa
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webeneur
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 15:14
i agree you never get anything by sitting around...which is exactly my point! what i am saying is everyone is dreaming if they think regenesis has longevity.
follow me on this - this is a system that is "founded" on the promise of passive income without lifting a finger. read all the posts in the beginning of this thread and observe how they change to now. there is no substance here and this will start to unravel soon as people don't get what was marketed, not necessarily by any of us, but by the company itself.
i guess what i am saying is just PLEASE admit this thing is a house of cards and STOP believing it is a business or work at home opp.
make money...yes; viable business...no
*please consider that i am wrong every other day 
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webeneur
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 15:16
believe me, when i get a check, everyone will hear about it
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vtx1800
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# Posted: 29 May 2009 17:48
webeneur: i guess what i am saying is just PLEASE admit this thing is a house of cards and STOP believing it is a business or work at home opp. make money...yes; viable business...no
Oh I have been saying that from the beginning. This will crash and when it does many will be sitting having made no money at all. What I do believe is people who go in at the start and work thier butt off will make money at the expense of all those who bought into the hype of making money by doing nothing.
As I said in a post before lets check back in 6 months and see if this is still around
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gstacks777
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# Posted: 30 May 2009 03:23
Hello world! I just joined ReGenesis this past Tuesday and I'm so excited about this company and what they are doing for us. As soon as I receive my first check I will be letting everyone know.
This is the only program that I will be telling people about - I'm staying focused on what works...forget all of that other crap that's out there!
Jason and David Garcia, you guys are great and I've seen some of your videos. I don't know if I'm on one of your teams but I joined with a guy named Shaun. He is real cool and I know I can always call him for support if I need it.
See you guys at the top!
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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 30 May 2009 14:05
Here is the brief run down on today's training call:
The first thing that they said is that they know that they have to step up to the plate as a company. They are putting things in place to make this happen. Regenesis is here for the long haul
New members can now add their own info to create their own site quickly--
Regenesis now has over 12,500 members
You can now use the gmail address again because they are caught up in returning emails
ALWAYS USE YOUR 5 DIGIT ID# as your sponsor #
Major enhancements are coming for the ARS- They've invested 6 figures into enhancements for helping everyone get their 2 like they said they would.
If you joined before May 15th, you should have your 300 leads by now, if not, by this next weekend you should receive a package in the mail with those leads. If not received by next Saturday, send an email to request again.
Regenesis continues to pay on time every time, if your out there recruiting and sharing this amazing opportunity with others, you are getting paid! Passive members are waiting a little longer, BUT it will happen for them too!
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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 30 May 2009 14:07
webeneur: ..also, i am very upset if they plan to give ANY sign ups to recent members before their commitments are honored to earlier members.
It is my understanding that this is not happening, they are very specific and adamant that it goes in the same order that people signed up. People are not getting their 2 before others that have been in longer. They were very clear about that this morning. What those people are probably receiving is spillover from above. Hope this helps
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# Posted: 30 May 2009 17:25 · Edited by: skydancer
Just my thought on all and any of these 2x2 matrixes. First, is what they don't tell you and that is if you sign up and get two and if they do not get there two you are doomed. Then if those 4 do not get there two, guess what! You are doomed. You can follow this all the way down the line and if you get one do nothing idiot in your group guess what! You are doomed. Bottom line is that in order for you to get paid, you can not have any open positions, if you do guess what! You are doomed and since you can't be paid until you get rid of this person and the only way to do that is buy them out. Guess what!_________ (fill in blank). The only people making money on this true pyramid scheme is the owners, period!
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# Posted: 30 May 2009 23:09
Jason, I have been following this link closely since I joined Regenesis on 13 May. I would just like to thank you for your summary of the training call. Being in New Zealand, I am unable to participate. Thanks again! ........... Lynda
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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 31 May 2009 00:55 · Edited by: heistheanswer
skydancer: Just my thought on all and any of these 2x2 matrixes. First, is what they don't tell you and that is if you sign up and get two and if they do not get there two you are doomed. Then if those 4 do not get there two, guess what! You are doomed. You can follow this all the way down the line and if you get one do nothing idiot in your group guess what! You are doomed. Bottom line is that in order for you to get paid, you can not have any open positions, if you do guess what! You are doomed and since you can't be paid until you get rid of this person and the only way to do that is buy them out. Guess what!_________ (fill in blank). The only people making money on this true pyramid scheme is the owners, period!
You must really like the word "doomed" lol, but seriously, If you join a matrix, any matrix out there, and you do nothing and everybody else does nothing, then yeah you won't make any money. But why are you joining in the first place then? (in general) If you bring in 2 people, and 1 of those 2 people doesn't do a single thing, you're not "doomed" the next person YOU bring in will fill that empty spot. As long as YOU continue to bring people in to the business, you will automatically fill the holes that other people leave. As those people under you bring people in, it will fill you bottom spots as well. If you think the only people that are making money are at the top, your sadly mistaken. I realize that the passive part of this program is backed up right now, but those of us that are out sharing this opportunity with others, then teaching, helping, and training them to do the same thing, we are the ones making money. $400 a month is a really nice perk for many out there right now and that's simple to accomplish in Regenesis. You go out and work, you get paid, you sit at home on your but and do nothing, you still might get paid, but it takes a lot longer. Thanks for your opinion Skydancer, but I have to respectfully disagree with what you're saying, considering that I am making money, helping others do it too, and am not even close to at the "top"
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# Posted: 31 May 2009 01:20
LiveMyDream: Jason, I have been following this link closely since I joined Regenesis on 13 May. I would just like to thank you for your summary of the training call. Being in New Zealand, I am unable to participate. Thanks again! ........... Lynda
Thanks Lynda, I appreciate the kind words, anything I can do to help just let me know
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# Posted: 31 May 2009 12:50
One of the biggest problems I have noticed with any 2x2 matrix is that you lose on a lot of your marketing efforts if I bring in 2 people I`m supposed to rely on those two to bring in 2 most likely it won`t happen. On top of that I don`t earn anything until I have 6 people in my matrix..Why is that more productive than the direct sales biz-ops out here where every person you recruit counts?The money does not add up to me in any 2x2 matrix a lot more money is going to the company than the distributor..
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 31 May 2009 16:06
Ok, seems the only ones knocking this program down are the ppl that aren't even in it...With Many of the programs i tried and failed for me, then i do go out and warn ppl on what to expect from them, but not one i wasn't even in. I haven't been in Regenesis but only a few weeks, and i am out there marketing it, so i am willing to give it time to work. They say give it 4-8 wks when you are passive, and i'm satisfied with that...If and when it does pay out, i will gladly report here for eveyone else. The ppl knocking this program should go to push button extreme, thats the biggest scam around and the reviews say it all, then theres Ameriplan, check out ripoffreport.com and see the thousands who have been taken in and class action suits being reported on them... And i could go on and on, but until you have something to back up your negativity about Regenesis, then go on your way. As it stands right at this moment, there is NOO negative reviews from people who are actually in the program, and that is saying a lot considering the others had bad reviews one month in existence.
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# Posted: 31 May 2009 21:44
I joined Regenesis 2x2 on May 7 th 2009 its now May 31st 2009, I have not seen anybody placed into my backoffice. I have sponsored one person who sponsored 2 more right away, ( instead of buying 2 more cc's) Hint Hint. Im excited about this and if people believe in this, then everyone can enjoy. It has 12,500 now, there are millions that would love an opportunity like this, so just believe. I hope that it works, and hope the same for everyone else. I do agree that it will get too big one day, but can we just enjoy it, while it lasts? Don't listen to the negative comments.
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2009 01:25
gstacks777: Hello world! I just joined ReGenesis this past Tuesday and I'm so excited about this company and what they are doing for us. As soon as I receive my first check I will be letting everyone know. This is the only program that I will be telling people about - I'm staying focused on what works...forget all of that other crap that's out there! Jason and David Garcia, you guys are great and I've seen some of your videos. I don't know if I'm on one of your teams but I joined with a guy named Shaun. He is real cool and I know I can always call him for support if I need it. See you guys at the top!
Welcome to the club You are in for a wonderful ride. I'm not sure if you're in my group or not, but if you ever need anything feel free to contact me anytime. Keep your head focused on Regenesis and you will do amazing. A lot of times people will get into something and jump out right away because they don't see money in 2-3 days. You have to give it time, effort, and persistence. Above all make sure that your in this for the right reasons, we all want to make money, but, it's also about helping those that need help, teaching others how to do what you do, guiding them the right way, keeping them on the same path, and giving them all the tools they need to be successful, not holding anything back from them. If we all help each other, we all will WIN Good luck and much success to you!
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2009 12:38
I don't see how you joined 2 weeks after me and you say you
got your 2 people before me. I don't think that ReGenesis picks
who to send the people too. I hope the next one in line gets
them.
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# Posted: 1 Jun 2009 17:48
I signed up David, in case i miss it, let me know as soon as they launch...I like how they will be concentrating on only the good Matrixes, glad to know they included Regenesis...This program could really help out getting sign ups.
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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2009 01:25
David21, do you not have to buy an additional CC if you want to join you're system? I think it would be more beneficial for you to start a new thread and actually explain how this works so everyone understands, but not in the Regenesis thread, they may kick you off again, your posts I mean. If this is helpful to Regenesis and it helps people cycle then great
Regenesis is making strides on getting people their 2 and they would not have started this program in general if they were just going to stop doing what they promise. I believe with all the enhancements coming, they are going to be back on track soon.
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2009 05:02
This is going to sound nuts, but I am an honest person who is looking for someone to sponsor me into ReGenesis. I will pay you back from my first check, which I understand could take as much as 6-8 weeks to get. I can either send you a money order/cashier's check or pay with an online payment processor. I currenly have AlertPay, PayPal (of course) and Revolution Money Exchange (which is great because they don't charge fees!). I'm going into this much detail because I want you to know I'm serious. PM me if you're interested. I'm sorry if I'm making a damn fool of myself. But I need this, and like many of you have said, I will gift family and friends with this opportunity as soon as I am able. Thanks for reading.
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vtx1800
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2009 08:19
cadomo: This is going to sound nuts, but I am an honest person who is looking for someone to sponsor me into ReGenesis. I will pay you back from my first check
Lets see how much some of you believe in this program. Who is going to jump in and give away the free cash?
Cadmo the reason this request sounds nuts is because you do not know if you will ever get paid!!
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mellin
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# Posted: 2 Jun 2009 11:15
vtx1800: Lets see how much some of you believe in this program. Who is going to jump in and give away the free cash?
Whether or not people give the free cash has nothing to do with believing in this program. For me personally, I am not a bank, so I would not sponsor someone into a program this way.
Cadmo, if you really want the cash to put into this program, there are ways to scrape together some cash. Have a garage sale maybe.
-Melissa
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