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heistheanswer
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# Posted: 9 Jul 2009 21:16
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I've been reading all the comments in here, and yes it is true that Regenesis is having major problems. That is not my fault, I NEVER PROMISED ANYTHING TO ANYONE FOR JOINING UNDER ME. I did everything in my power to help people that joined with me and even people that didn't join with me.
Angelsheart, I thought you were different, now I see that you are bashing me, after I sent you an email that specifically said, NO GUARANTEES, you make the decision, I can post that hear if you need a reminder. I answered all your emails, posted a video for you, answered questions, provided a forum and did everything i could to help you. Now you take shots at me, you know my situation, I never lied about anything, I am very much a Christian man, and am sorry that it didn't work for you and anybody else that joined. Nothing online is guaranteed, Regenesis didn't follow through on their promises, but you can't blame me for that. I didn't ever force anyone to join, that decision was your own. I'm still here, and my number is still valid, it isn't ringing from anyone here complaining. I didn't get any emails from anyone complaining. You don't pay me when you join, you pay Regenesis, asking for your money back would have to go through them.
I've been marketing for almost 3 years now, I always help anyone that joins me, however, I'm not going to chase people down and make them do anything. You call me right now, and I bet I answer, if I don't i bet I return your call
I sincerely apologize to anyone out there that did not make any money, whether they joined under me or not. But I am not going to have anyone drag my name through the mud and say that I didn't at least try and help. I will no longer be promoting Regenesis from this point on because they are no longer coming through on their promises that they made. Again I am deeply sorry for anyone that didn't make money either passively like they said you would or by trying to promote it.
Jason
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 09:24
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yeah right, you helped me all right....What help did you give me exactly???? Granted at the beginning you made one video mentioning my name, but once the rules changed for the program, i heard from you once through messenager, but definitely not through any emails addressing my concerns then...So NO you did not answer all my emails, only the ones at the very beginning when i first joined...You got your money of course, so to stop promoting it is definitely no sweat off your back........You were soo gun hoo about this program saying you talked to JW personally on the phone and he promised you ppl would get paid.....Save your violins, there are too many angry ppl here who really don't care what you have to say about your precious name being drug through the mud, ppl are more concerned about the money they lost then concerned about you......After finding out this program no longer made good on their promises did you give anyones money back they lost who DIDN'T make any money but who trusted YOU??? You talk about being a Big Christian...Oh wait, you used the no guarantee clause....Then that makes you no better then JW who changed the rules of the program and changing it to NO GUARANTEES...Your not sorry for a thing...
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 19:03
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FOR THE RECORD:
"0h you waited 10 days for your leads?? Try 1 1/2 months, just recently got them and like you i had to threaten them with numerous emails...I shouldn't of had to of sent one much less the number of times i wrote them... I feel like an idiot also. I used much needed money because my Sponsor who is now quiet as a mouse, was very convincing how good this program was going to be and he personally talked to this JW himself and he promised him ppl will get paid. Well he made good on his promises to him because he is making ALOT of money from this..I should have known, never trust sponsors who promise to help you and use how Christian they are so ppl will trust them. All i got from him was one i'm sorry after not responding to any of my emails i sent him.... Yeah he's really sorry raking in the money from this while i lost mine. I'm sure alot of his signups came from this thread right here. they also don't give refunds...."
This is from a previous post i wrote Jason. Where exactly have i drug your name through the mud??? I never mentioned your name which i could have easily, but i still had ethics not to exactly mention anyones name even though i was upset and disappointed. I don't mention ppl's name in forums other then that Fraud JW who ppl need to be warned about.....You mentioned your own name and your now dragging your own name through the mud as well. All i said was my Sponsor. You took it upon yourself to write who you were. Enough said.
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skydancer
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Joined: 28 May 2009
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 19:34
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Once again the scammers are out to justify there B.S. I wrote about this scam plenty of times on this forum and gave everybody a chance to think about this, before and after they joined.
Now I read that "heistheanswer" is back, who by the way was one of the super hyped up pushers of this scam, tring to say he never promised anything. To that I say a big B.S..
You came on this forum and did nothing but try to get people to spend ther hard earned dollars, day in and day out.
Now you have the nerve to say what you did in your last post is pathetic.
Anybody who represents themselves as a Christian just to get business is a total Sc-mb-g. Period.
If you really a man of christian faith you wouldn't be promoting that fact as a means of lulling people in a fase sense of security and then promote a pure scam.
Do you now get it folks? Just because someone says there of this faith or that faith to get your business is a coward and worse.
How they sleep at night I do not know.
Skydancer
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2009 19:45
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Your right Skydancer, you and VTX tried to warn ppl....... I am personally taking responsibility for being desperate and stupid, and no one put a gun to my head to get in this. I get that part. I only trusted someone who i thought was genuine and sincere and would actually do what they said, help me. Oh well, its behind me, but until this scam is completely shut down, i am going to make sure ppl know the truth, because Regenesis is still advertising PASSIVE INCOME as well as the ppl promoting Regenesis doing the same.
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 06:48
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On another forum someone gave a link to the BBS to file a complaint on Regenesis. They stated someone who filed before did get their money back for misrepresentation of a program. They said when you get to the part where they ask WHAT RESOLUTION DO YOU WANT, put in "I want my money back." Otherwise when Regenesis is contacted by them they will quickly place 2 people under you. I just filed. If someone else got their money back then it must work.
http://www.bbb.org/western-washington/business-reviews/work-at-home-cos/regenesis-2x2 -in-kirkland-wa-22506834
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 17:08 · Edited by: angelsheart
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Well we may have found the name of the owner of Regenesis ...Found this on that same forum as above.
http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200905/1243713055.html
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rennn
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 18:08
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Hi
Thanks for this info on the BBB. Guess it's worth a try...
ren
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splashofcash
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# Posted: 13 Jul 2009 23:14
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Two weeks ago I wrote here that Regenesis 2x2 had cut their prospecting conference calls IN HALF.
Today they cut the rest of those call IN HALF [u]yet again[/u]! Now they only do 3 calls per week. Tuesday night, Thursday night, and Saturday. Isn't that peculiar for a company who allegedly is paying out a quarter of a million dollars per week in commissions?
Here's my educated guess on this. The owner is now trying to sour his own sales force. He wants things to wind down and stop so that he can pocket all the matrix money not yet realized. The best way to do that (without criminal charges) is to upset your own sales force. That's what he's up to.
And as for the last name of Snyder possibly being him? I'll second that name as a possibility. A big earner wilthin the company told me two months ago of that name, but i disagreed. Now I'm inclined to agree.
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angelsheart
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 02:41 · Edited by: angelsheart
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Now ppl are finding out that JW Snyder is John Snyder if anyone wants a first name....New news, ppl are complaining of their $400 checks bouncing and Regenesis not replacing them...Its obviously close to the end. So anyone still promoting this program is in for a rude awakening when they try to cash their checks. Thank god i never signed anyone up.
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vtx1800
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Joined: 12 May 2009
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# Posted: 14 Jul 2009 10:49
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heistheanswer: I am very much a Christian man, and am sorry that it didn't work for you and anybody else that joined. Nothing online is guaranteed, Regenesis didn't follow through on their promises, but you can't blame me for that. I didn't ever force anyone to join, that decision was your own
What a class act. A "Christian man" does not go around pumping scams. Your track record shows that thie is what you do. You have moved on to the next scam as I write this. You are pumping these knowing they are scams.
Why is it that many scammers hide behind the "Christian man" thing? Do you think making this comment makes things better. It only makes thing worse when scammers try to use god to justify what they do.
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