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Bigrich
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# Posted: 26 Jul 2007 22:27
jseses did you get a chance to attend training tonite? er uhh must be in the morning? what an opp. has been handed to us..
and wow since edc is going up tom. Friday the 27th I have had a rush of people wanting in...
to your success everyone.
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jnapier
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2007 14:24
Anyone notice the EDC's top distributors have quit.
Check it out why I quit edc gold dot com
Jay
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2007 16:43 · Edited by: Bigrich
Uhh only one left of the Top earners, and it was not because he wanted too.... called opportunity jumping... some have left true but not in the Top so to say..
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jseses
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2007 19:21
Lolz Jnapier only the ones creating HYPE have left which is a good thing. Now people can attempt at running a real business rather then being hyped into it.
Why have they left? because they find it easier to HYPE something new. When people get to smart for that, they will find something else to hype.
I call it a lack of morals. You can earn big money without hyping out.
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 27 Jul 2007 20:40
just ask the top earner Dave he will tell ya....
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jseses
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 02:29
Bigrich...Dave isn't exactly innocent of not hyping. I'm in his team that's all I got from him.
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 28 Jul 2007 13:50
well I think all of us a guilty of hype,, I mean we do border on a used car salesman status
but I have spoken to Dave several times, and he seems to be truly emphatic about EDC,(maybe becuase of his income) and he has helped me, as well as getting me involved with a few other opps. and some affiliates. That are working too.....
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Power_Advisor27
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 11:50
Quoting: jnapier Anyone notice the EDC's top distributors have quit. Check it out why I quit edc gold dot com Jay
I have seen this site that you speak of. I have some feelings about this, but I'll stay with the main facts.
Chris Campbell is drawing out this deal with being kicked out/leaving or whatever. While the rest of EDC has moved on, he and his buddies are seeking nothing more than to take EDC down. In my opinion, this is a very immature way to handle things (and not someone I'd want to be associated with). If all of them were really seeing the success in their other program that they claim, it seems like they'd be more content to focus on that than "revenge." It is unprofessional all the way around.
There are valid points on both sides of the fence if you want to look at things technically. However, the better man will drop it and move on and focus on something that's more important. It certainly seems that these guys aren't willing to play the role of "better men."
Often, top earners gain that status simply by jumping into a program as soon as it's launched so they can get the ground-floor advantage. That doesn't make them the best or most helpful sponsor out there. It just means they got in early and got good money in the beginning. If I were a newbie looking to join a program, I'd care more about who actually had the time and patience to train me individually, not who makes the most money because 9 times out of 10, the top earners' methods aren't duplicative for everyone on their team (only those who can afford to spend hundreds a day on advertising). Not to mention, what some of them teach is what anyone, even a 10-year-old, could teach, which is go out and spends lots on advertising. It's not really marketing expertise, and unless you have the budget to keep up with them in that method, you don't succeed their way.
Also, in his most recent videos, Campbell fails to tell his website visitors what wrong he's done to get the status he has. If he had nothing to hide, he wouldn't have a reason to omit such important facts. He also fails to mention that he wouldn't have the big name he's got if not for EDC. We must always remember where it is we come from and who helped us get there!
EDC isn't suffering by any means because of those guys leaving. If anything, more of us "average joes" are seeing success now that they and some of their hyped-up tactics are gone! And with the fact that Craig and Mike are no longer promoting, and the fact that they're providing us with all new tools, techniques and products, EDC is on fire, still seeing record sales for a home business in this time of year (when it's supposed to be slow for this industry)!
-PA27
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Power_Advisor27
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 11:59
Oh, and I have some great news!
Just wanted to make an announcement to all here. My family has reached its #1 goal! My fiancee officially quit his job this week, and he's now at home working full time with me! He will be taking over the Roadmap to Riches business, as I've got a lot of great things going on for EDC. This is what working from home is all about!
I am developing a brand new training site for my EDC members, incorporating EVERYTHING new members need for success!
If anyone has any questions or concerns about EDC, feel free to post them here or contact me. I work from home, so you'll receive a response rather quickly! And don't forget to check out my video testimonial on the home page of the official EDC website!
-PA27
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YoMaMmA
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 13:17
Hi,
Im listening in on this one. I have also been watching EDC Gold
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CSGWAHM
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 18:45
PA27.......Congratulations on your awesome news!!!!! I'm very happy for you and your fiance!
I'm with EDC and very happy I decided to pursue this business. There's tons of training and support, even under Dave Dubbs. I'm just really enjoying this.
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 21:06
CSGWAHM,
Thanks and congrats to you as well!!! I agree, EDC has got the best marketing training hands down! The past few weeks worth of training has been focused on the most effective advertising methods online, and they're all completely FREE! I'm really enjoying our training, and I'm working to finish the all new training website exclusively for my team members!
Good luck to you! I hope hear your success story as well!
-PA27
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 21:25
you can't beat the info on free advertising that we have been recieving it is a virtual gold mine that NO one else comes close too.
all those silly ads you get in your email saying pay me 7.00 I'll tell ya how to advertise free,,, google ads etc,,, we have it all at our fingertips...
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Bigrich
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 21:28
also within a week or so we will be able to (sorry) sell some software to help others in other opps. to boost their sales with the info we have... it will be worth every penny...
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Power_Advisor27
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# Posted: 2 Aug 2007 23:36
We can actually do that now, Bigrich, we've always been able to! We have several products available for webmasters and entrepreneurs that can help achieve success, no matter what opportunity they're used for! Contact me for details!
-PA27
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YoMaMmA
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# Posted: 3 Aug 2007 03:59
Hi,
where did you find that?
Do u have a link to that forum?
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Power_Advisor27
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# Posted: 20 Aug 2007 17:32
Hi there YoMaMma,
I see that you're also researching EDC Gold. Do you have any questions about the program?
I'm not sure if you were referring to my last comment with the following statement:
Quoting: YoMaMmA Hi, where did you find that? Do u have a link to that forum?
But here's what I mean. With the products you purchase from EDC, you get full master resell rights. That means you can set up your own storefront if you'd like, and sell the products individually or in bundles. This has always been the case, and even recommended. That's one of the great things about EDC. There are up to 5 separate streams of income for members to work with and earn from!
Any more questions, feel free to contact me! You can also check out my website for detailed FAQ's, video messages and more information!
Success to all!
-PA27
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Aquababe
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# Posted: 22 Aug 2007 15:34
Hi Jseses,
I was reading your earlier posts on EDC about doing your marketing for free.....could you tell me how you do this...I'm thinking of joining EDC next week...Has the price gone up to �397? That's more!!
Thanks for replying
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dodofone
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# Posted: 22 Aug 2007 21:28
Hi there,
I am new to this forum but I joined Graig Garcia YNF (Mar.07)fee $14.95/month I advertised by my own to get some sales and nothing! I didn't want to pay extra services before to get evidence(autoresponder, SEO.... )whatsoever before to get one pay but nothing 'till now...
Once was listening the seminar/ sure some makes money but for starter is a lot of money. On my backoffice, I could download any softwares but they are useless(ebooks outdated etc..) So quite disappointed with the products and of course no refund as mentioned it before. My question my acount is still active 'till now. I don't complain when I want some stuff from there but why!
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2007 01:05
dodofone,
Sorry to hear about experience. I'm not sure what you mean about the products, though. I haven't had any problems downloading any of the software I wanted. Nor has anyone else I know of. The products aren't outdated. They have just been updated, are usually updated and added to once a month or so. The price for YNF changed to $69.95 quite a few months ago. When was the last time you logged into your account? Perhaps that's why you feel you're finding outdated products.
And as far as your account still being active, you have to contact billing (Wendy Krosky) if you want to cancel. Otherwise, you'll continue to be charged. What'd I'd do if I were you is download what you'd like, and cancel once you've gotten all of the products you're interested in.
Good luck to you.
-PA27
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dodofone
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# Posted: 23 Aug 2007 05:21
Hello again Power_Advisor27,
Thank you, good idea downloading all the softwares I need... first.
Cheers
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 02:12
Hi Razzak,
Great questions and somewhat are variable because it depends on your learning curve.
You should keep in mind since you have to pass up 2 sales as its an Australian 2 Pass Up Sale compensation plan that it could take you some time and considerable money above the $1400 investment before you make some profit.
Best Wishes,
Brian McCoy
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McCoy Marketing Group
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 15:51
Brian,
I don't mean to be rude, but it's amazing to me that you feel you're able to answer detailed questions about our program, yet you're not involved in our program. And I find it interesting that if you feel yourself so informed, you didn't bother to answer the other questions that Razzak asked. If you're interested in gaining members for your own opportunity, then try discussions that actually have to do with your own program. We do not look for topics about other programs to try and steal their business. That is not the way a professional behaves.
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To Razzak,
I'll be glad to answer all of your questions, as I'm a member of EDC. Brian, while he has tried to be helpful, is actually a member of a competing opportunity and has not provided accurate information.
First off, everything would not come up to $1400. If you're interested in joining the highest level (Gold), then your total initial costs would be $1046.95. That includes the $997 for your software package, and the admin fee of $49.95.
If you're interested in joining the mid level, your total initial costs would be $436.95. This includes the payment of $397 for your product package, and the admin fee of $39.95.
For the lowest level, your total initial cost would be just $69.95. That is a monthly payment paid to your sponsor.
Now, as far of the 2 up compensation plan, it is at our individual discretion as sponsors whether or not new members have to pass up the first 2 sales. I personally am not such a stickler for my team members' money that I force them to pass up both sales. But with the EDC program, it is not a set-in-stone thing. It is up to the sponsor you've signed up with. And there are many of us who don't make that a requirement.
Depending on what program you join, there will be a monthly admin (or back office) fee to pay. For the highest level, this is $49.95 a month. For the mid level, this is $39.95 a month. For the lowest level, you would just continue to pay $69.95 a month to your sponsor. Other than that, there are no other required purchases or payments.
While it may be a good idea for you to have some funds to the side for advertising, EDC provides extensive training on how to advertise effectively for free, as do many of us as sponsors. I have even put together a new training database for my team members which goes into detail about free and low-cost advertising that works.
With your payment initial payment for either membership level, you are given access to a comprehensive library of software, courses and tools designed to teach you how to become better at marketing online, as well as access to live, weekly training from marketing experts. You will also receive affiliate websites to promote your products. For my team members, I provide them with a customized, marketing website, their own domain and logo to help brand themselves (instead of using replicated company websites). You also get access to a back office for you to manage your earnings and team members, additional marketing tools, and additional training.
You will have to make an investment of time with EDC. This is not a get-rich-quick scheme. You earn from your own efforts. I suggest to newcomers that they put at least 1-2 hours a day into training and marketing. That time will lessen once you get into the business and comfortable with selling and training. If you devote at least 2 hours a day to working this business, or you feel it may take away from your studies, you may want to wait until you have a bit more time. Otherwise, it will take much longer to earn back your investment and get into profit.
Now, there is no set time frame for when you earn back your investment or make your first profit sale. This depends on how long it takes for you to go through the learning curve, as it would with any business. If you are dedicated, stick to the training and are diligent in your marketing on a daily basis, you can start to earn as early as a couple of days, like many of our members have. From what I've seen, members that have other commitments such as jobs or school, are able to get through training and start earning at about a month in. However, this is entirely up to you and the time you're willing to put into the program.
I hope that sheds more light on EDC for you. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them here, and any of us will be more than happy to answer them. Good luck in your research.
-PA27
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 16:12
PA,
I understand your concerns, but I was simply adding my comments as this is a discussion forum.
I didn't address his questions specificly because I'm not in EDC and will allow you to do so as you have, but I do know that you have to pass up those first 2 sales so you have to have 3 sales before you make a single dime.
This is something that everyone should be aware of so that they understand that it may take a considerable amount of money to invest before they get their 3rd sale instead of just 1 sale.
But carry on in answering Razzak's questions and best wishes.
Brian
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 18:12
Brian,
Just to clear something up, as I said before the passing up of the first 2 sales with EDC is not set in stone. It is at the discretion of each individual sponsor, and I know of several, including myself, who honestly don't care much about those sales.
I think after reading this thread, other forums, and visiting EDC's actual websites, those interested are well aware of the possibility of having to pass up sales. That concept is not something that's been hidden or skirted around.
-PA27
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# Posted: 7 Sep 2007 18:15
PA27,
I understand most do, but Razzak didn't realize that.
He is asking in his last question why if he is a paid member does he have to give up his sales.
Brian
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# Posted: 11 Sep 2007 02:24
All I know is that 85% of members in those pass-up programs never make it to their third sale.
I really believe pass-ups are going extinct and we are going to see more multiple compensation tiered programs such as Perfect Wealth Formula, Wealth Magnet System and Wealthy Marketer.
All the Best,
Tim McGaffin
Laffin McGaffin Inc.
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# Posted: 12 Sep 2007 02:20
I am thinking of signing up too the 397.00 level too start with, I spoke to Michael yesterday & he told me that I can upgrade too the 997.00 level at any time which I like. I have found that you can only enter in at one level when investing in a home based business USANA is one of them.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2007 14:49
I was reading the last couple of pages of this thread ! Very interesting ! EDC versus PWF.
In any case, you're both right (PA 27 & Brian).
At the end of the day, only those who put in time & effort will succeed regardless of the program you choose.
EDC is a good program but I'm leaning towards PWF.
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# Posted: 14 Sep 2007 22:46
To TheChampion: I disagree with you. I have never seen statistics that say 85% of members in 2-up programs fail or don't break even. If you find anything official on this, let me know. As I've always said, with any home business opportunity success depends primarily on the individual. If feel that if you put in the effort, are diligent and honest in your dealings, you will succeed. Interestingly enough, most of the folks I've seen that claim they've failed with this program admitted to not doing everything they could have to make it work. So if there is a high failure rate, a lot of it may be due to an individual's lack of effort or lack of belief in their own abilities.
I do not think that these types of programs are dying out (and not just because I'm a member of one). Programs that offer the 2 up comp plan or something similar generally offer more commission (many at 100%) to their distributors. For this reason alone, they are still more popular than MLM/network marketing ventures and the like. Also, because we provide digital products than can be downloaded immediately, and the ability to market internationally, there are more incentives for those interested to join, as opposed to being stuck with programs that are only available in the US and/or Canada and which require live-prospecting, door-to-door sales/demos, home parties or cold-calling techniques. As well, because our business is handled primarily online (with no physical product to store and ship/sell), there is no need to bother with "warm markets" like many other programs advise. For these reasons, I feel that the benefits of what we offer far outweigh those of other types of programs, and that programs using this type of comp plan will be around for years to come.
To Casper: Let me know if you have any questions or concerns about the EDC program. The mid level of $397 is an ideal starting point, and I can offer some great advice having specialized in that level for so many months.
To Market123: Good luck with whichever program you decide to go with. If you have any questions about EDC, let me know, and I'll be glad to answer them.
This has been a great month so far! We are learning about very effective methods of advertising that are producing top results (with little or no cost). We are right into our busy season, and business is skyrocketing. Good luck to all of the EDC members out there, and to those who are not yet members, continue with your research and don't be afraid to ask questions!
-PA27
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