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sanaalavi
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# Posted: 15 Jan 2007 14:59
is EDC a scam? how does it work? wats the catch? those of you who are making money off of it... how does it work? how much do u sell? wat kind of software? please comment
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tannis
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# Posted: 16 Jan 2007 19:50
What is the name of the company you got into is it worth me checking it out I use to be a nurse and i quit my job now i have to do something to get out of the hole please give some good advice as to where to go HELP!!!!
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Chaz T
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2007 05:28
Quoting: nashmp $297 is way too much with no refund. I would bet money that there is very little value associated with this site.
Very True!
I'm just wondering how many prospects they are losing because of this refund policy. I mean there's nothing wrong with not wanting to issue refunds. Afterall it is their business. And that's the beauty of having your own thing. You make the rules.
So researching and more researching before you hit the "buy now" button is very important.
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malibumentor
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2007 18:20
I think you can download all the software... so its like when you break the seal on a program you buy from a store.
Whenb you log into the back office... you have broken thye "seal" on the product and can download anything you want.
I am not promoting EDC at this time... but this line of thinking makes sense to me. Your actual legal rights to refund may vary from state to state. Still, since the purchase price goes to the distributor people wanting a refund will have to talk with the reseller, not the company.
The company makes its money by selling the monthly membership to distribute and sell the product... and I believe you can join and distribute the product without actually buying it (in fact mandated by law I think).
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malibumentor
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# Posted: 17 Jan 2007 18:31
All these direct sales or mlm bizops have to offer an option, by US law
(some countries are different) where you can be an associate and sell the product for less than (I think) $500.oo. To cover their butts they almost all offer an associate program fro less than $100 per month, and in many cases less than $100 per year.
Even with MLM you can distribute the product and make money off your personal retail sales but (in many cases) you can't earn commissions unless you are bringing in a certain threshold amount of business yourself.
This, in theory, ensures that no more than 30% of product sold at wholesale to mlm distributors is for personal use, which is the legal limit that prevents "frontloading" (made infamous by AMWAY) - ie. stockpiling soap in your garage so you can get commissions off other people stockpling soap in their garages.
Anyway... its easier to sell a product you have personal experience with and see the value in... but not essential.
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petewealth
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2007 13:04
How you doing Tonyb, you made some wise commentts about EDC but there are a few more outstandind questions I wanted to ask you - if you have time - before I join. I am an aspiring internet marketer from the u.k.
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Bucky
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# Posted: 19 Jan 2007 17:38 · Edited by: Bucky
Doesn't everyone see whats wrong with their system. You still really only make money selling their system. You just make money off of other people who wan't to make money.
The reason it works is because so many new people are coming everyday to try and make money off the internet. I am not comfortable making money that way
I prefer to make my money online selling legitimate products.
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MktgGold
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# Posted: 21 Jan 2007 01:53
No, you don't only make money selling the system. There is a huge software portfolio with re-sale rights behind the company. You can sell the product retail. What makes the pills, potions, and lotions that you're selling any more legitimate than our software products? Why do you think you're able to sign up distributers into your business? Because they want to save the world? Don't kid yourself, it's because they're looking to make money. And there's nothing wrong with that, but to say that your products or business is more legitimate than EDC is just plain wrong.
As far as the no refund policy goes, there are a number of reasons the company had to go this route. One is because it is a software product and there would be the potential of a dishonest consumer downloading the products onto their hard drive and then requesting their money back. The second is because the company doesn't receive any funds from the sales. The associates take payments directly from customers, their payment links are embedded right on their websites. There's no waiting for a check from the company, associates get paid instantly and directly from their customers.
The company has made every effort to make sure customers have everything they need to make an informed decision before purchasing. Including the ability to sign up for free and take a look around before purchasing, free product samples, and free members can even attend all the company trainings along with the paid associates. And they have some of the best marketing training in the industry. Live, interactive training in their own web-based conference room which supports both text and voice interaction. The founders of the company actually teach classes themselves, along with top associates and well-known guest speakers. They even archive past trainings in the members area for those who can't attend live.
This company has nothing to hide. The founders of the company actually put their name and contact information (including phone numbers) on all associates web sites (and they answer their phones). They will talk to your prospects on your behalf, who else does that? The system they've put together, the integrity, and the training is all second to none.
The company's top associate is now making his marketing system available to anyone who joins his team. His system has made him the top performer in multiple companies, but he's chosen to focus on this program and teach his system right here. You can get more details at the website in my signature. You can sign up for free, don't be afraid to try before you buy.
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malibumentor
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# Posted: 24 Jan 2007 23:04 · Edited by: malibumentor
The problem in this case is a very similar line-up of software and ebooks is being sold elsewhere online for much, much less money.
So the value comes with the value added by the company training, marketing platform, and income opportunity.
Resale rights programs by their very nature are prone to this. Since the products are not proprietary they may be resold or given away. EDC is, though, a clear leader in the field.
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Bucky
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# Posted: 30 Jan 2007 01:25
Quoting: MktgGold No, you don't only make money selling the system. There is a huge software portfolio with re-sale rights behind the company. You can sell the product retail. What makes the pills, potions, and lotions that you're selling any more legitimate than our software products? Why do you think you're able to sign up distributers into your business? Because they want to save the world? Don't kid yourself, it's because they're looking to make money. And there's nothing wrong with that, but to say that your products or business is more legitimate than EDC is just plain wrong.
I would be shocked to find someone making real money selling those products retail. They are outdated and some are given away on other sites as bonus offers.
And all of the distributors I sign up want to help people and make money. That is why our business does well. We work on and offline and get results. Our pills, potions, and lotions have their benefits published in peer reviewed medical journals. They are backed by 50 years of science.
If I was selling hydroxycut for $997 then you could try and compare our products. We get real customers who use the products day in and day out, year after year.
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MktgGold
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# Posted: 1 Feb 2007 18:06
EDC-Gold includes over 1000 software and e-book titles and offers a lot of value for those who purchase, I've never had any complaints. Many of the titles are being sold individually elswhere for substantial money. They add new titles on a regular basis, our product will always be kept fresh and up to date. Members receive all new products free of charge as well. There is never a need to purchase additional product or be on an autoship. They are also coming out with proprietary products that won't include re-sale rights and will only be for the private use of members.
I have nothing against Shaklee, but not everyone is interested in the products they sell (like me). Some are more interested in software and education and would rather have a business involved with those products. EDC-Gold definitely passes the "mom" test (Mike knows what I'm referring to).
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tonyb
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# Posted: 1 Feb 2007 23:27
I must comment here.
You are almost right about EDC Gold. Some on the products can be found online for free or next to nothing. But not all of them. There is a lot of stuff in the back office.
The company is going to come with there very own software in the future. This shows great progress.
EDC Gold growing extremely fast and did not slow down during the holidays. There is a market out here for people that want what ths company has to offer. Software, ebooks and the opportunity to make money.
Not to mention I have never seen a company that allows it's owners to make their decisions on their own money. Meaning that I could let a person join me without passing up any sales or I could go the traditional way.
I am sure that shaklee doesn't give you that much freedom.
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Freedom_FOREX
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# Posted: 4 Feb 2007 16:40
Quoting: tonyb I must comment here. You are almost right about EDC Gold. Some on the products can be found online for free or next to nothing. But not all of them. There is a lot of stuff in the back office.
Good point,
No doubt, there are thousands of software titles all over the internet, and with that, yes, you can find many outdates versions for free, but EDC constantly is updating with the latest versions, and this is worth the price of admission in my experience. Time is money, and to research and identify all the software offered would take more time than I have to spend, so I traded dollars for free time. That is what EDC is all about, easy, so it is worth the price in my opinion. I am alway looking for more software tools to increase my online sales.
Good luck to all, Mike
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money345
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# Posted: 5 Feb 2007 11:46
297$ this is alot of money. There are better programs for much less.
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MktgGold
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# Posted: 6 Feb 2007 15:16
$297 isn't a lot of money to own your own business. If someone doesn't have that much to spare, they shouldn't be looking at a home-based business (try affiliate marketing instead).
There is no better program out there for less. In fact, there are programs out there that cost thousands that aren't as good. You're getting a huge library of software and educational products as well as live, interactive marketing training by some of the top marketers online. You get to keep 100% of profits on every sale. Your direct payment links are right on your website. The founders of the company will even speak to your prospects for you. I challange you to name one company that has more to offer for less money!
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ewlentz
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# Posted: 7 Feb 2007 17:44
What is a lot of money is investing over $100k to open a Subway franchise or similar and then having to manage 10-15 teenagers. Not to mention managing the typical duties of owning a traditional business.
I don't know much about EDC because I have invested nothing with them but if I were to, I would surely do my homework. EDC literature and recorded information speaks negatively about the network marketing industry (see www.explorefreedom.com/teach. click on "Brilliant Compensation" for education on Network Marketing. This is not affiliated with any company, just an educational tool). EDC is a form of direct sales but is not a member of the Direct Selling Association, therefore not subject to the code of ethics in doing business in this way. EDC is not publicaly traded, therefore not scrutinized like other major companies. They do not allow refunds at all which is a direct sales red flag.
Also, if I were to invest $1 in a business with a company I would treat it like any other professional endeavor. I would visit the company and it's leaders and make a educated decision.
I will reserve judgment on EDC but rather inform you of some facts and allow you to do your own homework. They might be a great company but you will never know a company's integrity just by reading "their" litereature.
I am involved with a company that has a 24 year track record. We are publically traded. It is not a get rich quick scheme. Oh, and our CEO is chair of the Direct Selling Association.
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striker
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2007 09:13
I'm thinking of a direct marketing business and came across your comments on edc....makes sence.
Which company did you go with?
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striker
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2007 09:21
Top Gun-
are you still active w/ edc? How have you done?
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traveler
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2007 09:49
I have looked at EDC Gold and the comments they make about Network Marketing aka MLM, and frankly, I have to agree with it.
Yes, NM/MLM is highly regarded in many article such as "Brilliant Compensation", etc. My personal experience with NW/MLM has woefully been of the nature described by the EDC Gold audio.
Right now, I am involved with one of EDC's competitors.
I expect to do well!
Press on and prosper!
Warmly,
jgd
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tonyb
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# Posted: 28 Feb 2007 19:38
I agree with Bucky this program is awesome. Many people are succeeding with this company.
This is because of the training and the owners. Where else have you seen an internet company that you can speak with the owners. Not to mentions they will close calls for you. They make their money only if you stay with the program.
If a person does not have success here it is because they are not doing something. You have to talk to people however, you don't have to cold call.
That is the secret of success with this company. Show your excitement.
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Bucky
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2007 17:27
Quoting: tonyb If a person does not have success here it is because they are not doing something. You have to talk to people however, you don't have to cold call.
Well said! Too many people think that they can come online and just instantly make money. This is a business and you need to treat it like one. However, that being said, the amount that you can get out of this program versus what you have to put into it can not be beat. If you do what you are told and follow the systems given to you, you will succeed!
No cold calling is correct, and talking with people does help your success. However, I have made sales without talking to the person.
With how good this program is, everyone in it, should be shouting to tell everyone else to join. There have just been improvements made to the back office and I believe it is just going to get better.
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tonyb
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# Posted: 6 Mar 2007 01:51
Thank you for your reply Bucky. I have had sales from people not talking to me about my website. However, most people that spend $997 want to speak to someone to make sure they are not being scammed
When a person comes into this program they have a lot of training to help them be successful.
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TheCeoGuy
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# Posted: 7 Mar 2007 15:39
money345
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297$ this is alot of money. There are better programs for much less.
" Takes the same amount of energy and time to market a high ticket program like it does a low ticket, I rather be paid on 10 sales and earn $10,000 then be paid for 10 sales in a mlm company paying me only 40 percent fast start bonus earning $400 "
True story, i started making a six figure income when i realized people didnt join a home bizness to sell lotions potions diet cookies or some pill...or long distance deal. They just wanted money.
And mlm takes too damn long to make money unless your a super recruiter with a killer system.
But to each his own.
Seng aka TheCeoGuy
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Bucky
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# Posted: 7 Mar 2007 15:41
Quoting: tonyb When a person comes into this program they have a lot of training to help them be successful.
The training and the resources keep getting better too!
Training and the systems that a member implements will be the key to their success. That is what is great about this program. They have systems in place that enable everyone to succeed.
You also need to make sure that your sponsor will help you!
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tonyb
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# Posted: 8 Mar 2007 10:13 · Edited by: tonyb
Having a good mentor is a key part in this business. Many people join and get a deal however, their sponsor may all of a sudden become unreachable.
I don't believe that after a person pays you money that they are done. When we are trying to make money online most of us have no clue as to what we are doing. That is why a good sponsor just answers a couple of questions and emails. A Great sponsor mentors and helps their people make money.
With that being said the person joining does have to be willing to work. As we all know nothing in life is free or without some work.
So I would say to anyone looking at this and any other company be ready to put your time.
Success is not an accident it is a process of doing what others are not willing to do. Most of the time that just means WORK.
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WealthyWAHM
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# Posted: 8 Mar 2007 10:58 · Edited by: WealthyWAHM
Quoting: tonyb Having a good mentor is a key part in this business. Many people join and get a deal however, their sponsor may all of a sudden become unreachable. I don't believe that after a person pays you money that they are done. When we are trying to make money online most of us have no clue as to what we are doing. That is why a good sponsor just answers a couple of questions and emails. A Great sponsor mentors and helps their people make money. With that being said the person joining does have to be willing to work. As we all know nothing in life is free or without some work. So I would say to anyone looking at this and any other company be ready to put your time. Success is not an accident it is a process of doing what others are not willing to do. Most of the time that just means WORK
Well said, tonyb.
Marketing is tough and if you are new to it, you NEED a nudge in the right direction. When you join something, you hope that the person there to give you the nudge is your sponsor, but sadly, that does not always end up being the case....
I can't tell you how many emails I get from people on a daily basis asking for my help since they joined a program under someone who promised to help them and then got left in the cold after payment. 
All these emails are actually what has set me into action on a new project that I hope will end up helping new marketers have better success rates- offering them the support and tools that they need and pointing them in the right direction to get started, no matter what business they are in.
Regards,
Christy
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jseses
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# Posted: 26 Mar 2007 02:09
Hey guys, found this forum on google recently.
I've been with EDC Gold since It launched back in December and have done really well from it. Made over $150K so far.
How is everyone else doing?
Have read of few posts and see that many are seeking alot of answers.
I am able to get the level of success I get due to a few things that you can do aswell:
You have to treat this like a business. That is exactly what it is. Treat it as you would an offline business.
There are a heap of marketing ways that are free. I use entirely free methods. You can find them via research or develop them.
I personally use a few methods. One is a way to get targeted traffic from search engines like google, yahoo, msn etc for free.
Plus, there are numerous ways that others use. To be effective you need to leverage the marketing method. I have members that use my strategy to get between 75 - 400 unique targeted visitors a day, getting them daily free signups. All done free! Work smart not hard.
Mind-set is extremely important. You need to think like a winner. I have a method that you can use to make it happen. I was able to use it to make 100k from edc gold in 2 months. Anyone can do it. Work on your attitude and your mindset.
Do the above few things and you will be successful...
If any of you want some help, email me, and I'll be happy to give you a few pointers.
Have a great day!
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topdollargold
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# Posted: 30 Mar 2007 14:05
Let me first say that I have signed up for edcgold. Everything so far has been exactly as described. It is not a get rich quick scheme. You will get out of it what you put into it. The major draw is that you can get in for whatver your finances allow. Make sure you look for the right team that can offer support. Best of Luck
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jseses
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2007 02:27
Guys, I've been in EDC Gold since it's start and have done really well from it, so I know what I am talking about here. I am writing about a few concerns I have that I believe people are falling for:
1) Please make sure that when you signup, you are doing so under the right sponsor - the person you want to work with. I have a few people on a daily basis contact me for help. Their sponsors stop helping once they get paid. So be careful about who your signing up under.
2) There are some idiots, in particular the passport to wealth people, who are running scare campaigns. These people along with a few others are just using HYPE to try and change your decision. Try to not react to the hype. Don't fall for something, then regret it later.
EDC is a great simple business if you want to make soem decent money online. All you need is a mentor (the sponsor) who knows what they are doing, ethical, and can show you how and where to market.
You can literally, and easily make about 10k a month. With a little more hard work you can do alot better.
Also, keep your business simple. Don't invest overlly into paid adverising. I personally use all free advertising and still make a sale a day. There are a tonne of free methods of advertising that often work better then the paid methods.
Your all free to email me if you want some help and advice. However, your first point of contact should be your sponsor.
Take Care.
B.K
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billfish
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# Posted: 5 Apr 2007 10:11
Hey everyone, I have been in EDC Gold since it launched. It is by far the best business I have ever been involved in. Its a no brainer why almost 80% of the people sign up at the $997 level.
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